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[tungfa]

Of all the troll and FUD we have been the subject of in recent weeks I am still dumfounded that Smooth, as a lead dev of another coin, has gone to such lengths to discredit Darkcoin with no effort to back it up with even logic let alone evidence.  At least people like AdamJoan above had no credibility to lose in the first place and are not figureheads for an entire community...

Bullshit.

1. I'm not the "lead dev" I'm just one team member

2. There was plenty of logic in my posts as every objective reply acknowledged. Yes there were a few (granted not many) who were neither known DRK fanboys or known XMR fanboys. Agree or disagree, fair enough. Just because you don't like where it leads, don't deny the reality. BTW, most of what I said, Kristof Atlas said the same thing, to his credit.

3. I'm no figurehead (nor do we have one at all). Nobody gives a shit what I say, I'm just some guy on a forum. This business of putting me up on a pedestal just to take cheap shots at another coin is pretty pathetic.

just the fact that you are even still lingering around here
sais it ALL !
 

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[illodin]

just the fact that you are even still lingering around here

Well to be fair he was addressed by his name here so surely he can post his say about that.

[smooth]

If you want to hang on to the 'trusted' part, try giving the incessant smear tactics a break. Promote your project on its merits rather than making desperate attempts to stick mud on others.

Criticism of your design, which happens to coincide more or less with the same criticism from your own reviewer, is not "mud"

Quit treating your coin like a religion. Only religions are above criticism.

just the fact that you are even still lingering around here

Well to be fair he was addressed by his name here so surely he can post his say about that.

Satan is not allowed to step foot in church even when addressed by name.

[bandidorl]

So it´s very easy to get Hero member status spamming and trolling in DRK thread.

Perhaps we must collect some fees for each reply to fund our community  

[toknormal]

Criticism of your design, which happens to coincide more or less with the same criticism from your own reviewer, is not "mud"

 - saying things are categorically "broken" when they are categorically not is mud.

 - making explicit accusations of "incompetence" against devs who's been formally recognised for their abilities is mud.

 - deceptively omitting the fact that the very features you criticise perfectly suit the design priorities of the project is mud.

 - trying to paint yourselves as some kind of authority on cryptography by making loose associations with people with letters after their name when all you are is a band of ex-box shifters and fanboys yourselves is mud.

 - trolling around every DRK oriented thread on bitcointalk making desperate posts about everything from faux tech deficiencies to alluded market dumps is mud.

For a staff member you sure find it hard to come up with anything positive to say about your own project. Feel free to try to pull this one down if that's the only PR strategy you've left in your 'box' but don't expect any mercy if it doesn't work.

[smooth]

Criticism of your design, which happens to coincide more or less with the same criticism from your own reviewer, is not "mud"

 - saying things are categorically "broken" when they are categorically not is mud.

 - making explicit accusations of "incompetence" against devs who's been formally recognised for their abilities is mud.

 - deceptively omitting the fact that the very features you criticise perfectly suit the design priorities of the project is mud.

 - trying to paint yourselves as some kind of authority on cryptography by making loose associations with people with letters after their name when all you are is a band of ex-box shifters and fanboys yourselves is mud.

 - trolling around every DRK oriented thread on bitcointalk making desperate posts about everything from faux tech deficiencies to alluded market dumps is mud.

For a staff member you sure find it hard to come up with anything positive to say about your own project. Feel free to try to pull this one down if that's the only PR strategy you've left in your 'box' but don't expect any mercy if it doesn't work.

Give your job in spin control a rest, you're not even very good at it.

Fundamental vulnerabilities count as broken, especially when anonymity is at stake. That's serious business and I don't give a shit about what dumbed-down "design priorities" you invented in order to pat yourselves on the back for designing a weak system.

- trying to paint yourselves as some kind of authority on cryptography by making loose associations with people with letters after their name when all you are is a band of ex-box shifters and fanboys yourselves is mud.

Nice mud there bro. Try taking some of your own medicine for a change.

EDIT: By the way, I say plenty of positive things about our own project, in appropriate venues. I don't spam other threads with advertisements about our coin.

[toknormal]

Give your job in spin control a rest, you're not even very good at it.

It's not my job.

It is however your job and your about as miserable at it your drunk collegue of "AdamWhite" fame. As far as negative spin against other projects goes I don't have to do any because you're a self-propelled credibility bomb for your own team who's 100 times more clued up on negative FUD tactics than they are on "cryptography".

[smooth]

your own team who's 100 times more clued up on negative FUD tactics than they are on "cryptography".

More mud, eh?

For the record I don't know "AdamWhite" and I'm not interested in his brand of trolling.

[toknormal]

For the record I don't know "AdamWhite"....

That would be the same broken "record" that both you and him play on every thread you can get your oar stuck into then.

Beat it on out of here and see if you can't do something useful in your own patch like getting a proper Mac wallet done.

[smooth]

For the record I don't know "AdamWhite"....

That would be the same broken "record" that both you and him play on every thread you can get your oar stuck into then.

No clue what you're talking about. I checked his post history quickly and I see him on the DRK thread (which I rarely visit, but I guess I keep an eye on now to see what crap people are posting about me) and a bunch of other nonsense like GAPCOIN, NODE, and god knows what else, none of which I have the slightest clue or interest about. So as usual you are talking out of your ass. I guess that's how you roll over here.

[BrainShutdown]

Fundamental vulnerabilities count as broken, especially when anonymity is at stake. That's serious business and I don't give a shit about what dumbed-down "design priorities" you invented in order to pat yourselves on the back for designing a weak system.

Market doesn't agree you you.

EDIT: By the way, I say plenty of positive things about our own project, in appropriate venues. I don't spam other threads with advertisements about our coin.

Agreed, you just spam!

For the record I don't know "AdamWhite" and I'm not interested in his brand of trolling.

We know you have developed your own brand.
Good for you!

[smooth]

Fundamental vulnerabilities count as broken, especially when anonymity is at stake. That's serious business and I don't give a shit about what dumbed-down "design priorities" you invented in order to pat yourselves on the back for designing a weak system.

Market doesn't agree you you.

Yes you are just slightly above Paycoin, an obvious fraud, and well below Litecoin, which has no technology whatever of any kind. You should be proud.

Market prices don't translate directly into anything tech related.

[GhostPlayer]

3. I'm no figurehead (nor do we have one at all). Nobody gives a shit what I say, I'm just some guy on a forum. This business of putting me up on a pedestal just to take cheap shots at another coin is pretty pathetic.

 Second time of the day I'll be using a long forgotten "insult" I very much love.

 You ding-dong! You're doing exactly that to yourself, right now!

 Then, if your intentions are true, wtf are you doing here??  Troll smearing x,y,z, coins, near and far are also "some guy on a forum".

 You're making quite the spectacle of yourself...

 For the record, we did bubble at 65 million market cap at one time, but the f*cking RC3/RC4 release forked out and wham, we crashed, and crashed hard. Aside the p&d guys, investors lost confidence. Its natural. Then slow and healthily, we rise again.

The only difference is, what doesn't kill us make us stronger!

 LTC has what... 4 years now? DRK has 1.

 You ding-dong you  

[smooth]

Then, if you intentions are true, wtf are you doing here??  Troll smearing x,y,z, coins, near and far are also "some guy on a forum".

Whatever bro. I'm going to respond when nonsense is posted about me here, and now that I'm here I'm going to give my opinion about your tech too (surprise! occasionally it might even be positive). If you want an echo chamber with no critical views and nothing but DRK fanboys, go elsewhere.

[toknormal]

I am pretending not to be AdamWhite and that I don't have a chip on my shoulder the size of a house. I really believe in cryptography - really.

You're right - markets can often form bubbles, pump and dump assets and take off on trends which are deceptive.

What they don't do though is make a sustained valuation of assets over a year long period through pumps, dumps, bubbles and recessions unless those assets have some kind of long term viability.

Keep on harping on about why "the market isn't right" and it "should be valuing your project more highly" but all it looks like to anyone else is total sour grapes.

[illodin]

I must warn you smooth is even more relentless than AdamWhite, he can nitpick on any given subject or semantic and rehash his views as long as you can ever hope keeping up with. I know this because I've had to get to sleep twice already in the past when he was still able to keep going.

[BrainShutdown]

Fundamental vulnerabilities count as broken, especially when anonymity is at stake. That's serious business and I don't give a shit about what dumbed-down "design priorities" you invented in order to pat yourselves on the back for designing a weak system.

Market doesn't agree you you.

Yes you are just slightly above Paycoin, an obvious fraud, and well below Litecoin, which has no technology whatever of any kind. You should be proud.

Market prices don't translate directly into anything tech related.

Exactly! You got it! This is not college  

[coins101]

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This sort of thing never ends very well. Just look at the BCX ~ Monero saga. Didn't seem to go anywhere, other than impacting on XMRs price.

Just avoid opinions. DRK is open source. Go break it. Show evidence that the anonymity doesn't work. Then there is no further discussion required.

[smooth]

I am pretending not to be AdamWhite and that I don't have a chip on my shoulder the size of a house. I really believe in cryptography - really.

You're right - markets can often form bubbles, pump and dump assets and take off on trends which are deceptive.

What they don't do though is make a sustained valuation of assets over a year long period through pumps, dumps, bubbles and recessions unless those assets have some kind of long term viability.

Come on, there is nothing sustained here, the value is all over the place constantly, and you know it. If the value happened to be in somewhat of a low phase you'd be singing a different tune about it (or maybe would not even bring it up).

Keep on harping on about why "the market isn't right" and it "should be valuing your project more highly" but all it looks like to anyone else is total sour grapes.

I never mentioned my project. Why do you keep bringing it up?

[GhostPlayer]

Its quite evident you are just going to keep on responding, period. There is no debate going on! Just pointing fingers!