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February 15, 2015, 10:05:38 AM |
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Yes, but if setting up a masternode only exist in the hands of the few then we have the same problem as the banks. Not anyone can open up a bank.
It isn't "in the hands of a few". Masternodes are as decentralised as any other nodes, there's just fewer of them (as with full nodes in Bitcoin). "Centralised" = Recourse to a central authority is required to set one up "Fewer of" = a numerical comparison of population Slight difference. The significant issue here is'nt the numerical quantity but whether they are decentralised (as in new ones can be configured anywhere, anytime by anyones without recourse to a central authority). But shouldn't easy accessibility play into that?
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February 15, 2015, 10:06:16 AM |
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Yes, but if setting up a masternode only exist in the hands of the few then we have the same problem as the banks. Not anyone can open up a bank.
It isn't "in the hands of a few". Masternodes are as decentralised as any other nodes, there's just fewer of them (as with full nodes in Bitcoin). "Centralised" = Recourse to a central authority is required to set one up "Fewer of" = a numerical comparison of population Slight difference. The significant issue here is'nt the numerical quantity but whether they are decentralised (as in new ones can be configured anywhere, anytime by anyones without recourse to a central authority).There are also services now where you can pool your coins to participate as a partial owner of a masternode. And make note of that last bit. I can restart my MN from home or another server in 5 minutes, and that's because I'm so damn slow. I keep forgetting commands, n stuff. Would be faster if I used a script but I want to exercise my mined ;P
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February 15, 2015, 10:06:57 AM |
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What is the maximum amount of MNs available on the system? Is there a limit?
There is no artificial limit like 1440 or something which would centralize the coin to the hands of the rich few. PS. are you sure you're not one of child harold's puppets? Though I do agree with you that does drive the price of a coin up. Making it an interesting investment. Edit: and I don't know who that is.
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February 15, 2015, 10:08:17 AM |
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------- pump is over hope you sold.
Your dump failed??? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Well you don't know how the altcoin market works don't you? IGNORE MODE ON ------
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February 15, 2015, 10:08:53 AM |
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Yes, but if setting up a masternode only exist in the hands of the few then we have the same problem as the banks. Not anyone can open up a bank.
It isn't "in the hands of a few". Masternodes are as decentralised as any other nodes, there's just fewer of them (as with full nodes in Bitcoin). "Centralised" = Recourse to a central authority is required to set one up "Fewer of" = a numerical comparison of population Slight difference. The significant issue here is'nt the numerical quantity but whether they are decentralised (as in new ones can be configured anywhere, anytime by anyones without recourse to a central authority).There are also services now where you can pool your coins to participate as a partial owner of a masternode. And make note of that last bit. I can restart my MN from home or another server in 5 minutes, and that's because I'm so damn slow. I keep forgetting commands, n stuff. Would be faster if I used a script but I want to exercise my mine ;P Now that I like.
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February 15, 2015, 10:11:17 AM |
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Well i'm afraid I must be going now. I do appreciate everyone's input, excluding the children. You have all given me much to think about.
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February 15, 2015, 10:12:30 AM |
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What is the maximum amount of MNs available on the system? Is there a limit?
There is no artificial limit like 1440 or something which would centralize the coin to the hands of the rich few. PS. are you sure you're not one of child harold's puppets? Though I do agree with you that does drive the price of a coin up. Making it an interesting investment. Edit: and I don't know who that is. also the % of blocks going towards MN payments is going up per month which should have an impact on the price as well Masternodes increase payments if(nHeight > 158000) ret += blockValue / 20; // 158000 - 25.0% - 2014-10-24 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 1)) ret += blockValue / 20; // 175280 - 30.0% - 2014-11-25 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 2)) ret += blockValue / 20; // 192560 - 35.0% - 2014-12-26 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 3)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 209840 - 37.5% - 2015-01-26 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 4)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 227120 - 40.0% - 2015-02-27 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 5)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 244400 - 42.5% - 2015-03-30 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 6)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 261680 - 45.0% - 2015-05-01 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 7)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 278960 - 47.5% - 2015-06-01 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 9)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 313520 - 50.0% - 2015-08-03 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 348080 - 52.5% - 2015-10-05 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 382640 - 55.0% - 2015-12-07 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 417200 - 57.5% - 2016-02-08 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 451760 - 60.0% - 2016-04-11
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February 15, 2015, 10:12:54 AM |
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Hey, I liked my cookie eating analogy! I thought it was good! LOL Good night ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 15, 2015, 10:13:23 AM |
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What is the maximum amount of MNs available on the system? Is there a limit?
There is no artificial limit like 1440 or something which would centralize the coin to the hands of the rich few. PS. are you sure you're not one of child harold's puppets? Though I do agree with you that does drive the price of a coin up. Making it an interesting investment. Edit: and I don't know who that is. also the % of blocks going towards MN payments is going up per month which should have an impact on the price as well Masternodes increase payments if(nHeight > 158000) ret += blockValue / 20; // 158000 - 25.0% - 2014-10-24 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 1)) ret += blockValue / 20; // 175280 - 30.0% - 2014-11-25 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 2)) ret += blockValue / 20; // 192560 - 35.0% - 2014-12-26 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 3)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 209840 - 37.5% - 2015-01-26 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 4)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 227120 - 40.0% - 2015-02-27 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 5)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 244400 - 42.5% - 2015-03-30 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 6)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 261680 - 45.0% - 2015-05-01 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 7)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 278960 - 47.5% - 2015-06-01 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 9)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 313520 - 50.0% - 2015-08-03 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 348080 - 52.5% - 2015-10-05 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 382640 - 55.0% - 2015-12-07 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 417200 - 57.5% - 2016-02-08 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 451760 - 60.0% - 2016-04-11 Increased supply.
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February 15, 2015, 10:14:27 AM |
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What is the maximum amount of MNs available on the system? Is there a limit?
There is no artificial limit like 1440 or something which would centralize the coin to the hands of the rich few. PS. are you sure you're not one of child harold's puppets? Though I do agree with you that does drive the price of a coin up. Making it an interesting investment. Edit: and I don't know who that is. also the % of blocks going towards MN payments is going up per month which should have an impact on the price as well Masternodes increase payments if(nHeight > 158000) ret += blockValue / 20; // 158000 - 25.0% - 2014-10-24 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 1)) ret += blockValue / 20; // 175280 - 30.0% - 2014-11-25 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 2)) ret += blockValue / 20; // 192560 - 35.0% - 2014-12-26 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 3)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 209840 - 37.5% - 2015-01-26 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 4)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 227120 - 40.0% - 2015-02-27 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 5)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 244400 - 42.5% - 2015-03-30 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 6)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 261680 - 45.0% - 2015-05-01 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 7)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 278960 - 47.5% - 2015-06-01 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)* 9)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 313520 - 50.0% - 2015-08-03 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 348080 - 52.5% - 2015-10-05 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 382640 - 55.0% - 2015-12-07 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 417200 - 57.5% - 2016-02-08 if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; // 451760 - 60.0% - 2016-04-11 Yup, so we should grow nicely ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 15, 2015, 10:17:30 AM |
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wtf has my pool paid MN 60% last 2 blocks, while some jerkoff is back to paying none?
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February 15, 2015, 10:18:05 AM |
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actually the exact opposite. Equal supply, decreased market liquidity, because MN ops are known compulsive hoarders.
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February 15, 2015, 10:18:56 AM |
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wtf has my pool paid MN 60% last 2 blocks, while some jerkoff is back to paying none?
Enforce is off again unfortunately
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February 15, 2015, 10:19:00 AM |
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Well i'm afraid I must be going now. I do appreciate everyone's input, excluding the children. You have all given me much to think about.
step away from the FUDer ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) he said you need ULTRA KNOWLEDGE to start masternode in darkcoin? again you must be so stupid, u can read? CHECK, you can copy paste? CHECK...then masternode is something my 5year old kid can open MN so take your retarded FUD to your copy clone...and wait for evan to show you something new that you can copy ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ta ta
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February 15, 2015, 10:29:32 AM Last edit: February 15, 2015, 10:51:30 AM by qwizzie |
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wtf has my pool paid MN 60% last 2 blocks, while some jerkoff is back to paying none?
that 60% is weird though, shouldnt even be possible. I suggest you provide Evan with your debug.log edit : i checked both MN addresses that got paid those 60% according website drk.mn and both just received 1.74 DRK on the 15th of feb, so it looks like they were actually paid according 37.5 % https://drk.mn/blocks.htmlfound blocks 220484 & 220429 : XyLz1jG5mUy93hK1QDcPZ6DqDqLvWdEF4A paid to random MN's: XjkuayokN6t7V2FxaM81t9gP6aBgHzJNAo Xe98kvZ7MNNsVBbVF7MpgYv1oiKAm67sRy
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February 15, 2015, 10:39:10 AM |
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Are you supplying the answers?
Yes. The reason Shadowcoin is a non-starter is because it doesn't make a distinction between monetary and utility value. Over the last year, technology hasn't made a dent in Bitcoin's marketcap. It has continued to consolidate despite the advances that have been made by altcoins in all sorts of utility aspects - confirmation speed, functional diversity, contracts, asset based blockchains etc. Of the 6 monetary properties, however - Portability, Divisibility, Durability, Scarecity, Fungiblibility and Un-consumability - Bitcoin is missing only 1: Fungibility. Darkcoin does address this deficiency directly and it does so without mitigating its ability to inherit the rest of Bitcoin's monetary role by way of fully implementing the Bitcoin core code and protocol. That's why the 2-tier architecture is the right approach because otherwise you've got to re-invent the wheel twice and markets don't take too kindly to that as you've already discovered to your financial detriment. With respect toknormal I will await the outcome of the Zeuner peer review of shadowsend v2. see http://shadow.cash/downloads/shadowcash-anon.pdfIsidor has undertaken to also compare/contrast SSv2 with other anon systems, including yours (DRK MN's). The report should be illuminating for all. In the meantime this video is a good "time-killer" while we wait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INbCnEfZq4![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKlX4y2d.png&t=665&c=xYFxPeo0kTIIsg) Good Morning gents - no need to reply p.s. change the sig pls Tim? thx
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February 15, 2015, 10:51:15 AM |
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wtf has my pool paid MN 60% last 2 blocks, while some jerkoff is back to paying none?
that 60% is weird though, shouldnt even be possible. I suggest you provide Evan with your debug.log edit : i checked both MN addresses that got paid those 60% according website drk.mn and both just received 1.74 DRK on the 15th of feb, so it looks like they were actually paid according 37.5 % https://drk.mn/blocks.htmlfound blocks : 220484 & 220429 XyLz1jG5mUy93hK1QDcPZ6DqDqLvWdEF4A paid to random MN: XjkuayokN6t7V2FxaM81t9gP6aBgHzJNAo Xe98kvZ7MNNsVBbVF7MpgYv1oiKAm67sRy And another at 60% http://explorer.darkcoin.io/block/00000000000b96c470468ba586538be558528a58237ec5d507ee1f5ca953e883What a piss off.
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February 15, 2015, 10:51:20 AM |
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Cryptsy s*ck So people on cryptsy s*ck... They all weak hand ,allways dump !! ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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February 15, 2015, 10:54:41 AM |
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Cryptsy s*ck So people on cryptsy s*ck... They all weak hand ,allways dump !! ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) cryptsy's wallet is forked. sent drk there last night and still a no show. ppl probably annoyed
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February 15, 2015, 10:55:19 AM |
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wtf has my pool paid MN 60% last 2 blocks, while some jerkoff is back to paying none?
that 60% is weird though, shouldnt even be possible. I suggest you provide Evan with your debug.log edit : i checked both MN addresses that got paid those 60% according website drk.mn and both just received 1.74 DRK on the 15th of feb, so it looks like they were actually paid according 37.5 % https://drk.mn/blocks.htmlfound blocks : 220484 & 220429 XyLz1jG5mUy93hK1QDcPZ6DqDqLvWdEF4A paid to random MN: XjkuayokN6t7V2FxaM81t9gP6aBgHzJNAo Xe98kvZ7MNNsVBbVF7MpgYv1oiKAm67sRy And another at 60% http://explorer.darkcoin.io/block/00000000000b96c470468ba586538be558528a58237ec5d507ee1f5ca953e883What a piss off. also 1.74 drk MN payment (in accordance with 37.5%) , i think drk.mn is showing incorrect info
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