[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[ddink7]

Masternode Operators do not "buy" software to generate them revenue. They're rewarded for a service. It is expected they take proper measures to insure the network is maintained.

 We have had testnet for months, where everything has been layed out. Numerous questions and answers are brought up daily.

 There is no responsibility by the dev team, who are volunteers, to produce a step-by-step direction for MN Op. It is expected MN OPs keep up with changes. There is absolutely nothing new or radically different, just adaptation to bitcoin core v.10.

Fair enough. But in that case, I suggest everyone have very reasonable expectations about the speed with which the network will update. I don't recall ever seeing such a small percentage of masternodes updated after this many days. Usually enforcement goes on within 2-3 days, and we're still sitting on 25% updated. Some is probably due to the weekend, but some is due to the fact that many of us can't figure this thing out.

I would like to thank qwizzie for his very helpful guide.

 I'm sorry you feel that way, but I really believe your reasoning is off. Most haven't updated because they are well aware of what's happening, and that inicial launch could have (and did) have little mainnet quirks, that the devs quick as always came to solve. Service providers seldom update on launch, as these situations are expected. Veteran MN OP's are already "tired" of updating 2, 3 4 times in one day. Most will wait for a final "ok, this is it, this one is gold".

 Plus it's August, when most people in the northern hemisphere are on holidays.

 The network is steadily udpating. .v45 really does seem like it is it, as far as I can tell, and I have no doubt the majority of the network will update shortly. Service providers are always last to udpate to avoid service disruption to their clients, in case of expected bugs and quirks. Testnet is a sterile environment while mainnet is a jungle.

 If "many of you" can't figure this out, the simple solution is to head over to www.dashpay.io and ask for help. Or just stroll through the last half dozen pages of testnet, or better still, the v.12 official release thread.

 ddlink, I really don't want to antagonize you or anything, but the way you write makes it seem like there is a responsibility by the dev team to push out simple to follow tutorial for noobs. That is certainly not the case! It is their responsibility to answer the end user any questions they have. And we did have many many questions over the past months. And nothing world changing has happened for MN Ops anyways.

 Everything is "exactly" as it has always been in terms of use and MN setup, except slight difference that now you should use the RPC client dash-cli, which behaves exactly as dashd.

 start the daemon with "./dashd", from there on use "./dash-cli" for RPC, for example, "./dash-clip help"

Sure, all those things are factors. But I'm sure there are a lot of people whose update scripts are broken now, or who manually update and aren't exactly sure what to do or where everything goes.

I know you aren't trying to antagonize me--no hurt feelings, no worries. It *does* seem like software is more likely to be used if you publish instructions on how to use it. Perhaps somebody in the community could write a quick guide, like qwizzie just did, and Evan could link it in the "Official Launch" post next time. It seems more efficient than trying to dig through multiple pages of multiple threads.

It's not that it's anybody's JOB, it's just that it would be really useful to have =) It's been a LONG TIME since the MN updating process changed even slightly! (The last I recall was when the binaries started being hosted on the website rather than at github.)

[Pansyfaust]

Ok guys, last try for new miners, to help stop a potential fork produced by coinmine,
if you want to nearly DOUBLE your mining income by switching to a different (AMD only) sgminer produced by dashminer.com with slightly highly GPU temps then go here,
http://dashminer.com/

I vouch for their payouts but if you don't believe me check the stats for dashminer here,
(as a rough guideline, 1 R9 280X = 0.2 dash per day, coinmine is 0.1-.14 dash per day from current stats)
http://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=x11
and compare to coinmine's
https://www2.coinmine.pl/dash/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool

so do you want to supersize your income or stay sgminer unoptimized forever and get only half that is the question?

byzzzzz

Do we even know the size of dashminer's hashrate? For all we know it could be that big "unknown" solver?

In other news, good to see p2p is up to over 2GHs- http://p2drk.mupool.com/static/

[miningpros]

Ethereum has just been rocked by a major scandal:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3h7oel/early_contributor_distribution/

tl;dr Two of the top people on the project (Vitalik and Stephan) are arguing after Vitalik give hundreds of thousands of the Foundation's ether to people who made essentially no contribution to the project.

so there was a pre sale before the actual presale.... getting stranger and stranger
read something about Vitalik few weeks ago He did,nt even like too add a coin to this project at all, but he probably needed to get his funds.

[qwizzie]

Ethereum has just been rocked by a major scandal:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3h7oel/early_contributor_distribution/

tl;dr Two of the top people on the project (Vitalik and Stephan) are arguing after Vitalik give hundreds of thousands of the Foundation's ether to people who made essentially no contribution to the project.

so there was a pre sale before the actual presale.... getting stranger and stranger
read something about Vitalik few weeks ago He did,nt even like too add a coin to this project at all, but he probably needed to get his funds.

That reddit post was very informative and it seems these ETH payment rounds sure put a heavy strain on the Bitcoin price .. ETH -> BTC -> FIAT
 

[jjiimm_64]

Ethereum has just been rocked by a major scandal:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3h7oel/early_contributor_distribution/

tl;dr Two of the top people on the project (Vitalik and Stephan) are arguing after Vitalik give hundreds of thousands of the Foundation's ether to people who made essentially no contribution to the project.

so there was a pre sale before the actual presale.... getting stranger and stranger
read something about Vitalik few weeks ago He did,nt even like too add a coin to this project at all, but he probably needed to get his funds.

That reddit post was very informative and it seems these ETH payment rounds sure put a heavy strain on the Bitcoin price .. ETH -> BTC -> FIAT
 

Most of those coins have not moved...yet

[qwizzie]

Ethereum has just been rocked by a major scandal:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3h7oel/early_contributor_distribution/

tl;dr Two of the top people on the project (Vitalik and Stephan) are arguing after Vitalik give hundreds of thousands of the Foundation's ether to people who made essentially no contribution to the project.

so there was a pre sale before the actual presale.... getting stranger and stranger
read something about Vitalik few weeks ago He did,nt even like too add a coin to this project at all, but he probably needed to get his funds.

That reddit post was very informative and it seems these ETH payment rounds sure put a heavy strain on the Bitcoin price .. ETH -> BTC -> FIAT
  

Most of those coins have not moved...yet

well, thats very informative as well   thanks

[GhostPlayer]

Sure, all those things are factors. But I'm sure there are a lot of people whose update scripts are broken now, or who manually update and aren't exactly sure what to do or where everything goes.

I know you aren't trying to antagonize me--no hurt feelings, no worries. It *does* seem like software is more likely to be used if you publish instructions on how to use it. Perhaps somebody in the community could write a quick guide, like qwizzie just did, and Evan could link it in the "Official Launch" post next time. It seems more efficient than trying to dig through multiple pages of multiple threads.

It's not that it's anybody's JOB, it's just that it would be really useful to have =) It's been a LONG TIME since the MN updating process changed even slightly! (The last I recall was when the binaries started being hosted on the website rather than at github.)

 Exactly dude! The thing just came out! Just like when masternodes came out and everyone was "wtf's this now? how does it work?"

 If Xcoin/Darkcoin/Dash's history has as a constant, is tons of guides and tutorials sprouting faster than mushrooms! Don't sweat it, they're-a-coming for sure. In the meantime, enforcement is off and your nodes still get payed. You've got more than enough time to prep before the spork before the fork.

 I know it does suck to manually go in and re-edit already working scripts, but hey, it is what it is...

[Sub-Ether]

http://ethereumwisdom.com

[pille]

http://ethereumwisdom.com

dashwisdom please

[Sub-Ether]

dashwisdom please

lol, too right and with added multi-coloured depth charts,worth a vote as a little side project, and makes good kudos  and advertising

[GhostPlayer]

dashwisdom please

lol, too right and with added multi-coloured depth charts,worth a vote as a little side project, and makes good kudos  and advertising

Dash's Blockchain Governance funding, used wisely, can very likely make stuff like Ethereum's pre-sale obsolete by design. This is truly revolutionary gentlemen.

 Not down talking Eth, on the contrary. What they have accomplished is amazing and super promising. But basically, they got funded and delivered their thing. And their thing it will be. People can opt to use it or not, the future will dictate. Double cool because technically Dash can interact with the Ethereum network... (...nudge*nudge*wink*wink*...)

 Here with Dash we have a brand new paradigm. Decentralised voting and rewards systems to auto-sustain the network. Solves the problems all cryptos face up to date.

 - Miners get rewards - securing the network - PoW
 - Full Node dedicated Masternode Operators get rewards for serving the network - provide a service - PoSe
 - Blockchain governance rewards projects, proposed by anyone and voted by the staked MN owners - Democratic Quorum - meaning, sustainable and continuous development, wherever it may lead.

 Seriously, this could not be more "From the people, to the people!"


(and yes, I do expect trolls come here and complain about "masternode blinding", which is in the roadmap but not yet addresses, because the Dash dev team had more imperative stuff to address and kept plowing the field of innovation, and that there are only so many of them and every day has roughly only 24h's - now please do research on what "masternode blinding" is and implies, and ask yourselves - "What is the damn fuss all about?"... "sure, I'd like to see that, no doubt brainless cool extra feature to have, but what the f**k is all the fuss about?? )

[Sub-Ether]

...nudge*nudge*wink*wink*...
 Here with Dash we have a brand new paradigm. Decentralised voting and rewards systems to auto-sustain the network. Solves the problems all cryptos face up to date.
 - Miners get rewards - securing the network - PoW
 - Full Node dedicated Masternode Operators get rewards for serving the network - provide a service - PoSe
 - Blockchain governance rewards projects, proposed by anyone and voted by the staked MN owners - Democratic Quorum - meaning, sustainable and continuous development, wherever it may lead.

The options are unlimited and self-sustaining powered by a positive feedback reward system.
Its a relief to get the tricky fork over with early on, something bitcoin does not have the luxury of.
suggest PoV = Proof of Voting (and means Point of View so fits both meanings)

[eduffield]

Build from source choking @  :-

Code:

/usr/bin/ld: ./leveldb/libleveldb.a(db_impl.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `_ZTVN7leveldb2DBE' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
./leveldb/libleveldb.a: error adding symbols: Bad value
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [dashd] Error 1

Anyone got a work around?

Try 'make clean' and then do everything fresh, "bash autogen.sh && ./configure && make". I had errors like this a couple times and that fixed it for me.

[Jestah]

Ok guys, last try for new miners, to help stop a potential fork produced by coinmine,
if you want to nearly DOUBLE your mining income by switching to a different (AMD only) sgminer produced by dashminer.com with slightly highly GPU temps then go here,
http://dashminer.com/

I vouch for their payouts but if you don't believe me check the stats for dashminer here,
(as a rough guideline, 1 R9 280X = 0.2 dash per day, coinmine is 0.1-.14 dash per day from current stats)
http://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=x11
and compare to coinmine's
https://www2.coinmine.pl/dash/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool

so do you want to supersize your income or stay sgminer unoptimized forever and get only half that is the question?

byzzzzz

I'm concerned by my scan result, but want to try the pool out.  It it really that infected?

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ec2e4e1d9bbac1e59d0967895b5e6ca93adc8c5da6cc5df3c916eabaab92c7c0/analysis/1439852785/

[tungfa]

39.6 % updated to 12.0.45



Please Update
12.0.45 looks very stable
mine are up since 12 hours and no problems

[Melech]

Has anyone noticed some of the recent blocks are not paying masternodes their 50% cut?
https://dashninja.pl/blocks.html#blocksdetail

Example block 321089:
http://explorer.dashninja.pl/block/0000000000164559bb17782b523571a831d2fb6b6e5f90ad280edf035430950c

Block generation tx paid only 1 person, all 9.285 Dash:
http://explorer.dashninja.pl/tx/d104270dc1babc19bdc17da6f0273faf516f7e44b643744c54197c181f4ee864

[Minotaur26]

Has anyone noticed some of the recent blocks are not paying masternodes their 50% cut?
https://dashninja.pl/blocks.html#blocksdetail

Example block 321089:
http://explorer.dashninja.pl/block/0000000000164559bb17782b523571a831d2fb6b6e5f90ad280edf035430950c

Block generation tx paid only 1 person, all 9.285 Dash:
http://explorer.dashninja.pl/tx/d104270dc1babc19bdc17da6f0273faf516f7e44b643744c54197c181f4ee864

We are on transition to the new version, that is inevitable as we move from one version to the other, until enforcement is on some miners may take advantage of the situtaion, that always happens for a few days on new releases.

[UdjinM6]

Has anyone noticed some of the recent blocks are not paying masternodes their 50% cut?
https://dashninja.pl/blocks.html#blocksdetail

Example block 321089:
http://explorer.dashninja.pl/block/0000000000164559bb17782b523571a831d2fb6b6e5f90ad280edf035430950c

Block generation tx paid only 1 person, all 9.285 Dash:
http://explorer.dashninja.pl/tx/d104270dc1babc19bdc17da6f0273faf516f7e44b643744c54197c181f4ee864

Yeah, enforcement is off and our good old "friend" showed up again.
Search "XxDotRpSDzgyAkx3jHkLZD8YYZRwbcjmmA" on forum

[flailing Junk]

So I heard that the masternode donation feature is missing from the new release. This will break the masternode hosting services like this(http://dash.org.ru/pages/mn-en.php) right?

[oblox]

So I heard that the masternode donation feature is missing from the new release. This will break the masternode hosting services like this(http://dash.org.ru/pages/mn-en.php) right?

Yes