[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[olcaytu2005]

As a follow-up to my post showing that dnaleor started the post on planning for the flyer. Here is the link to the cache of the deleted for info

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dMLrDoJsP-0J:https://forum.getmonero.org/6/ideas/2396/flyers-paper-wallets-monero-awereness-campaign-bitcoin-dash-event+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Did I ever deny to have handed out those flyers? I don't think so.

And I don't regret it. I exposed some facts that day to people who didn't know about the instamine.
I handed out those flyers to people who asked me for more info on the instamine after I asked a question and to some people who asked some critical questions themselves to Evan during Q&A. I didn't force my flyers in the face of DASH-believers (because that would be a waste).

You are really so funny Please tell them more info about instamine and help them and save them from the DASH Baby, baby, baby it s better you back to monero thread and help your coin. i dont want to see your brainless posts here.

[dnaleor]

The great thing about DASH is that it's the topic on everyone's minds.

I don't know if either of them spent the last 30 years of their life building professional software systems or not, but how Evan's approaching it is absolutely consistent with an optimal strategy IF you're continually targeting protocol level revisions/improvements in a deployed technology.

Where is the peer reviewed paper about evolution?
I still like to suggest he submits it to Ledger before "going to talk about it" (read: pumping it) on stage in Miami. That would be an ethical thing to do.

[dnaleor]

As a follow-up to my post showing that dnaleor started the post on planning for the flyer. Here is the link to the cache of the deleted for info

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dMLrDoJsP-0J:https://forum.getmonero.org/6/ideas/2396/flyers-paper-wallets-monero-awereness-campaign-bitcoin-dash-event+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Did I ever deny to have handed out those flyers? I don't think so.

And I don't regret it. I exposed some facts that day to people who didn't know about the instamine.
I handed out those flyers to people who asked me for more info on the instamine after I asked a question and to some people who asked some critical questions themselves to Evan during Q&A. I didn't force my flyers in the face of DASH-believers (because that would be a waste).

You are really so funny Please tell them more info about instamine and help them and save them from the DASH Baby, baby, baby it s better you back to monero thread and help your coin. i dont want to see your brainless posts here.

Who is brainless here?

Me, for exposing the truth, or you, for brainlessly following all the BS your leader spits out.
I still did not get any clarification on this:

2013-12-29: 2 guys from Hawk Financial Group, Evan & Kyle, are asking on the Bitcoin Dev mailing list for "1 or 2 really good C++ programmer that is familiar with the bitcoin internals to help with a for-profit startup". They are planning to build a unique coin that is "not just a clone of the original Bitcoin code" but in stead "a merge-mined altcoin that will provide a very useful service to the whole crypto-coin ecosystem". They claim to have "detailed plans on how to implement it".

2014-01-22 Evan releases his plans for XCoin. At this point, more than 2 million coins were mined.

obvious planned instamine = obvious

[Macrochip]

Isn't it common knowledge by now that Trolleros never practice what they preach? Ninjamine, promising GUI, devs with the moral integrity of swiss cheese and now this

[olcaytu2005]

--instamine--

Baby i am sorry but you are brainless because you and all monero dogs dont know anything beside instamine. Try some other things ...

[dnaleor]

Isn't it common knowledge by now that Trolleros never practice what they preach? Ninjamine, promising GUI, devs with the moral integrity of swiss cheese and now this

The first round of submitting papers for review just started.
There isn't one paper published by ledger yet.

But I suggest that Evan does try to submit it. I'm pretty sure Shen will try to get his paper published about RingCT once it's finished and, more importantly, before it's implemented.

[dnaleor]

--instamine--

Baby i am sorry but you are brainless because you and all monero dogs dont know anything beside instamine. Try some other things ...

The tech behind DASH is flawed.

Ever tried to mix a few DASH? It takes hours. Without the "liquidity providers" (weak spot!) it would take days...
Your mixing on centralized masternodes (not anonymous)
Your masternodes are basically making the richer more rich. Fair?
InstantX isn't secure. You need to wait for block confrmations to be sure it won't be reversed.

I'm eagerly waiting for the Evolution paper, so we can all check the claims evan makes...
At the moment, he is pumping vaporware.

[salmion]

Did I ever deny to have handed out those flyers? I don't think so.

And I don't regret it. I exposed some facts that day to people who didn't know about the instamine.
I handed out those flyers to people who asked me for more info on the instamine after I asked a question and to some people who asked some critical questions themselves to Evan during Q&A. I didn't force my flyers in the face of DASH-believers (because that would be a waste).

Please tell me you live in Amersterdam...

I mean flyering the dash event does get some sort of ultralame Kudos.
Proselytising your religion and denouncing this "cult" with flyers is weirdly impressive. I don't think any of us Dashtards take things THAT seriously...But if you flew there especially.. well that's just the next level of disturbed.

but whatever makes you happy..

[olcaytu2005]

The tech behind DASH is flawed.

Ever tried to mix a few DASH? It takes hours. Without the "liquidity providers" (weak spot!) it would take days...
Your mixing on centralized masternodes (not anonymous)
Your masternodes are basically making the richer more rich. Fair?
InstantX isn't secure. You need to wait for block confrmations to be sure it won't be reversed.

I'm eagerly waiting for the Evolution paper, so we can all check the claims evan makes...
At the moment, he is pumping vaporware.

 why this concerns you ? is this help Monero growing? Do you really think that to discredit DASH will help MONERO?

[salmion]

I think the only way forward is to have a privacy centered cryptocurrency conference. We could have geek sports. Dash, monero and whoever else worth a damn.

Lets settle this like adults. With drink.

[dnaleor]

Every idea is vaporware at some point, it's not like we can think of something and magically it appears.

I agree, but you don't go on stage and start selling your idea before it's implemented.
We aren't talking about shares in a company here, we are talking about currency.

1) idea
2) write & code
3) peer review & test
4) implement
5) tell people about it

Don't start telling people about your idea (and try to get them to buy/pump your coin) before even releasing a paper.

[Macrochip]

The tech behind DASH is flawed.

No and I will show why by deconstructing every single of your "arguments", flying Dutchman.

Ever tried to mix a few DASH? It takes hours.

So? What's your point? That not enough people participate yet? Oh wow, the tech must be flawed because it depends on more people. Guess what, that's what makes the whole thing DEcentralized despite you incessantly claiming the opposite

Without the "liquidity providers" (weak spot!) it would take days...

Brilliant conclusion. LPs being a "weak spot" however has no basis except a lousy exclamation mark so I won't dignify it any further.

Your mixing on centralized masternodes (not anonymous)

You can continue to call full nodes in a decentralized cryptocurrency with the same exact properties as bitcoin full nodes "centralized" all day. Doesn't make your statement any less a lie.

Your masternodes are basically making the richer more rich. Fair?

Welcome to capitalism, Einstein! DASH is not a communist paradise. The only thing a sane reader takes away from this stupid remark is envy.

InstantX isn't secure. You need to wait for block confrmations to be sure it won't be reversed.

It was never advertised as secure, it was advertised as fast. Strawmen arguments don't help your case. Furthermore the security still rests on PoW so it's just as secure as BTC.

I'm eagerly waiting for the Evolution paper, so we can all check the claims evan makes...

We all do, but looking at Evan's track record, you should prepare your butthole.

At the moment, he is pumping vaporware.

1. Evan isn't "pumping". If anything your crowd of idiots is trying and miserably failing to devalue DASH. Evan simply announces progress and ignores the flying fuck out of you while working on the next big thing.

2. The term "vaporware" can be applied to any software ever announced until it's actually released so your sentence is completely void of any information.

What I am eagerly waiting for is your next batch of flyers. Does your printer have an extra opening for toilet rolls btw?

[dnaleor]

Every idea is vaporware at some point, it's not like we can think of something and magically it appears.

I agree, but you don't go on stage and start selling your idea before it's implemented.
We aren't talking about shares in a company here, we are talking about currency.

1) idea
2) write & code
3) peer review & test
4) implement
5) tell people about it

Don't start telling people about your idea (and try to get them to buy/pump your coin) before even releasing a paper.

I understand your frustration with things like this, but like all businesses and companies I've been around they all blab their idea's and then try to make them into reality.  It's very hard to follow through with any idea, I struggle with my business daily.  But it doesn't mean it won't happen.


To give an example, we can look at the USA presidential debates, they all promise things and basically give no supporting evidence it can be done.  But something comes out for better or worse.

There are winners and losers in every race, in every business.  

the thing with a cryptocurrency is:
if you are selling it before testing the security and something goes wrong, a lot of people will loose money...
So start selling it after testing, that is the logical sequence.

edit: yeah, I know, businesses can fail also...
But cryptocurrencies can at least be tested and reviewed before launching it (or launching new features)

[Lukas_Jackson]

Flying cultist

...
Proselytising your religion and denouncing this "cult" with flyers is weirdly impressive. I don't think any of us Dashtards take things THAT seriously...But if you flew there especially.. well that's just the next level of disturbed.

but whatever makes you happy..

This is so funny.
They are so emotional about their honey pot.
Funny, silly moroneros cultists.

Edit: go Dash 

[the-baker]

Every idea is vaporware at some point, it's not like we can think of something and magically it appears.

I agree, but you don't go on stage and start selling your idea before it's implemented.
We aren't talking about shares in a company here, we are talking about currency.

1) idea
2) write & code
3) peer review & test
4) implement
5) tell people about it

Don't start telling people about your idea (and try to get them to buy/pump your coin) before even releasing a paper.

What you're proposing is the academic way of doing it, and they are using the startup way of doing it. Both approaches are fine, and both require some sort of funding. Since they've adapted the virtual corporation slogan (and there are not really any research grants they could apply for), it was kind of obvious that they'd rather take the startup route.

But of course they still should release information in a timely and concise manner, just floating a photo of a slide with no context and some scattered hints in forums doesn't cut it.

[dnaleor]

Every idea is vaporware at some point, it's not like we can think of something and magically it appears.

I agree, but you don't go on stage and start selling your idea before it's implemented.
We aren't talking about shares in a company here, we are talking about currency.

1) idea
2) write & code
3) peer review & test
4) implement
5) tell people about it

Don't start telling people about your idea (and try to get them to buy/pump your coin) before even releasing a paper.

I understand your frustration with things like this, but like all businesses and companies I've been around they all blab their idea's and then try to make them into reality.  It's very hard to follow through with any idea, I struggle with my business daily.  But it doesn't mean it won't happen.


To give an example, we can look at the USA presidential debates, they all promise things and basically give no supporting evidence it can be done.  But something comes out for better or worse.

There are winners and losers in every race, in every business.  

the thing with a cryptocurrency is:
if you are selling it before testing the security and something goes wrong, a lot of people will loose money...
So start selling it after testing, that is the logical sequence.

edit: yeah, I know, businesses can fail also...
But cryptocurrencies can at least be tested and reviewed before launching it (or launching new features)

I get it, I really do, but I think all crypto is failing us in this aspect.  They all present amazing stuff and most of it is junk, but got to have faith sometimes.  So invest wisely.  

What if I told you there are a few currencies that are taking the serious approach of testing it first, trying to write a decent paper about it and then implementing it?

[BrainShutdown]

Flying cultist

...
Proselytising your religion and denouncing this "cult" with flyers is weirdly impressive. I don't think any of us Dashtards take things THAT seriously...But if you flew there especially.. well that's just the next level of disturbed.

but whatever makes you happy..

This is so funny.
They are so emotional about their honey pot.
Funny, silly moroneros cultists.

Edit: go Dash  

Ahahahh really funny. I got the chance to read what they're saying because all the quoting and WoW they really live in a very very small world...
I'm not even sure if they can't understand the actual Dash source code or are just circle jerking their agenda... amazing  

[Macrochip]

just floating a photo of a slide with no context and some scattered hints in forums doesn't cut it.

Sounds like you kinda missed this:

Evan Duffield Explains Dash Technology and Announces Evolution at Bitcoin Wednesday

[the-baker]

1) idea
2) write & code
3) peer review & test
4) implement
5) tell people about it

Out of curiosity: What is the difference between 2 and 4 in your list?

[ddink7]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/10/european-parliament-votes-to-shield-snowden-from-extradition-to-us/

My favorite part:

"Our position has not changed," said Ned Price, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

Not changed, just made irrelevant.