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March 27, 2014, 09:16:52 AM
Last edit: March 27, 2014, 09:30:08 AM by coins101
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Anyone know what's up with Drkpool or maybe its the network?

Drkpool pool hash rate keeps going up and down.  My miners are working great and have been on 24/7 with ~0.1 rejects for ages, but the rejects have gone up significantly in the last 12 hours.  Every now and then they get banned from the pool.

The network difficulty spiked to over 700 about 12 hrs ago and since then the network hash rate keeps jumping around.

EDIT:

Looks like the pool?

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March 27, 2014, 09:31:22 AM
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Yes it is true. He created this coin




He quit his job to "create" it hahahaha I am guessing he was fired for Broken Engrish.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=258208.0

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March 27, 2014, 09:32:09 AM
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Anyone know what's up with Drkpool or maybe its the network?

Drkpool pool hash rate keeps going up and down.  My miners are working great and have been on 24/7 with ~0.1 rejects for ages, but the rejects have gone up significantly in the last 12 hours.  Every now and then they get banned from the pool.

The network difficulty spiked to over 700 about 12 hrs ago and since then the network hash rate keeps jumping around.


I'm mining on Darkpool.com, only 4 shares rejected. The difficulty is now 451, but I agree it was too much high a while ago.
No problems my side anyway
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March 27, 2014, 09:51:13 AM
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Lotterymining.com:

for the next week im going to do a lottery EVERY day, ill even trow in 200 DRK of my own.

So each day 1 lucky winner will get 50% of fees, AND 28.57 DRK

The Lottery starts tomorrow... in 28 hours..


Awesome! Thanks for doing this CHAOSiTEC!!


Chaositec I still can't mine @ your pool Sad Sad

Hi

I know he is sleeping we are on the same time zone Wink

Dont know why his pool is not seen by my sgmier. I have all giod configured workers stratum etc ... All other pool work fine but I wanted to mine at lottery.... Mm any idea why???  back to work.
I have a similar issue, but it's "solved" by having a failover stratum. Lotterymining as main, whateverelse as failover. Sgminer starts up, doesn't work on lotterymining, switches to failover, but it will then "see" lotterymining is fine and switch back to it and work without any issues. I really have no idea why it does this, but it always does!
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March 27, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
 #11045

Announcing a new block explorer for DarkCoin!

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/


Note that this is completely new tech, not based on ABE or existing explorers.

  • displays correct addresses - with an X, as they are in the blockchain Wink
  • rich list, wealth distribution
  • pools/mining extraction watch
  • tickers, market cap, difficulty chart & other misc. features
  • can display addresses with lots of transactions

Note that this is still beta software, so blockchain interpretation bugs may lurk.

XjzXrN9DKff5ZmT3btuw7n4s9cUFY94fs2

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March 27, 2014, 10:03:50 AM
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Announcing a new block explorer for DarkCoin!

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/


Note that this is completely new tech, not based on ABE or existing explorers.

  • displays correct addresses - with an X, as they are in the blockchain Wink
  • rich list, wealth distribution
  • pools/mining extraction watch
  • tickers, market cap, difficulty chart & other misc. features
  • can display addresses with lots of transactions

Note that this is still beta software, so blockchain interpretation bugs may lurk.

XjzXrN9DKff5ZmT3btuw7n4s9cUFY94fs2

Brilliant. This was needed for this coin for a long time now as so many questions remained. In this era it is hard to go anywhere when coins have distributions like this

Code:
Wealth Distribution

Top N addresses Holdings Percentage
Top 10 addresses 892,072.4 DRK 23.31 %
Top 100 addresses 2,510,244.7 DRK 65.58 %

No wonder prices don't move much in this coin.

Nevertheless, the developer is good and the coin is innovative.

Edit:: Timestamps are incorrect?

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March 27, 2014, 10:21:21 AM
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No wonder prices don't move much in this coin.

Nevertheless, the developer is good and the coin is innovative.


Several top addresses are likely to be exchanges.
Also it's quite clear from cryptsy trades and twitter that some traders are stockpiling.
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March 27, 2014, 10:38:07 AM
 #11048

Announcing a new block explorer for DarkCoin!

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/


Note that this is completely new tech, not based on ABE or existing explorers.

  • displays correct addresses - with an X, as they are in the blockchain Wink
  • rich list, wealth distribution
  • pools/mining extraction watch
  • tickers, market cap, difficulty chart & other misc. features
  • can display addresses with lots of transactions

Note that this is still beta software, so blockchain interpretation bugs may lurk.

XjzXrN9DKff5ZmT3btuw7n4s9cUFY94fs2

So this is amazing. Keep it up! Gonna send a few drk when i'm back near my wallet comp.
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March 27, 2014, 10:54:11 AM
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The great thing about most of our trolls is they turn everyone against them by being incredibly rude, lacking basic writing skills and contradicting easily verifiable facts. Basically they are putting a big red "TROLL" sign on their foreheads, which means we can safely ignore them.

Now, the smart, polite, subversive trolls are the ones to watch out for.

<--- But I troll the trolls in defense... :3
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March 27, 2014, 10:56:29 AM
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No wonder prices don't move much in this coin.

Nevertheless, the developer is good and the coin is innovative.


Several top addresses are likely to be exchanges.
Also it's quite clear from cryptsy trades and twitter that some traders are stockpiling.

That is a given, top addresses are likely exchanges (maybe 5 at most). Still very unhealthy distribution and will most likely be a barrier to entry for new investors.

By comparison:

   Top 100 Richest Addresses
Bitcoin   2,397,120 BTC($1,338,518,627 USD)19.09% Total
Litecoin   12,805,933 LTC($198,564,944 USD)47.54% Total
Auroracoin   10,130,190 AUR($67,889,483 USD)95.26% Total
Peercoin   11,968,520 PPC($31,020,934 USD)56.29% Total
Dogecoin   33,028,470,386 DOGE($19,788,298 USD)51.33% Total
Namecoin   4,305,573 NMC($11,407,241 USD)51.51% Total
Quarkcoin   163,381,385 QRK($4,356,810 USD)65.96% Total
Feathercoin   19,009,353 FTC($3,052,022 USD)50.40% Total
Novacoin   507,624 NVC($3,111,261 USD)67.83% Total
Vertcoin   1,085,037 VTC($1,632,417 USD)36.91% Total
Megacoin   14,998,491 MEC($2,015,482 USD)65.92% Total
Worldcoin   31,391,810 WDC($1,618,982 USD)63.02% Total
Terracoin   3,289,608 TRC($381,736 USD)56.86% Total


source: http://bitinfocharts.com/

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March 27, 2014, 11:20:02 AM
Last edit: March 27, 2014, 12:11:22 PM by n00bnoxious
 #11051

Spread your hash power - why is everybody using SuchPool and Coinmine when P2Pool is still just as profitable for CPUs as GPUs!?

n00bsys0p's UK 100Mbit P2Pool node
Benefits:
  • Built-in P2Pool node IRC chat
  • No need to trust devs. Coins go straight into your wallet.
  • Supports decentralisation.
  • Up to as high payouts as solo mining
  • 0% fees for the next couple of weeks on my node
  • Even CPUs can mine here and make just as much
  • Running v0.9.1.0 to support hard fork at block 45000
  • Good latencies for EU - server based in London and 100Mbit bandwidth
  • It doesn't matter if P2Pool gets >50% of network hash - help us avoid a 51% attack!
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March 27, 2014, 11:21:01 AM
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No wonder prices don't move much in this coin.

Nevertheless, the developer is good and the coin is innovative.


Several top addresses are likely to be exchanges.
Also it's quite clear from cryptsy trades and twitter that some traders are stockpiling.

That is a given, top addresses are likely exchanges (maybe 5 at most). Still very unhealthy distribution and will most likely be a barrier to entry for new investors.

By comparison:

   Top 100 Richest Addresses
Bitcoin   2,397,120 BTC($1,338,518,627 USD)19.09% Total
Litecoin   12,805,933 LTC($198,564,944 USD)47.54% Total
Auroracoin   10,130,190 AUR($67,889,483 USD)95.26% Total
Peercoin   11,968,520 PPC($31,020,934 USD)56.29% Total
Dogecoin   33,028,470,386 DOGE($19,788,298 USD)51.33% Total
Namecoin   4,305,573 NMC($11,407,241 USD)51.51% Total
Quarkcoin   163,381,385 QRK($4,356,810 USD)65.96% Total
Feathercoin   19,009,353 FTC($3,052,022 USD)50.40% Total
Novacoin   507,624 NVC($3,111,261 USD)67.83% Total
Vertcoin   1,085,037 VTC($1,632,417 USD)36.91% Total
Megacoin   14,998,491 MEC($2,015,482 USD)65.92% Total
Worldcoin   31,391,810 WDC($1,618,982 USD)63.02% Total
Terracoin   3,289,608 TRC($381,736 USD)56.86% Total


source: http://bitinfocharts.com/


This would seem to explain a lot, but consider...
1) about average?: it's about average among the coins here as far as the other Rich Lists here: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/pot/
2) what is the total number of addresses?: one issue with these distribution measures is that they dont factor in the total number of addresses. A new coin might have only 200 addresses, so you'd expect the top 200 to own 100%. Point is, the standard rich-list measure that looks only at number of addresses doesn't factor in what percentage of the total number of addresses those top addresses make up.
3) exchanges: they make up big shares of any rich list, and different coins can have different levels of trading intensity on the exchanges.

In any case, kudos for this kind of info. Coin distribution is clearly a key metric the market cares about. As we can see with the success of BC, an otherwise unremarkable coin, on one end and the failure of QRK, which was very innovative at the time it was released, on the other end (and many other examples in between on both sides of the spectrum), people want insulation from the risk of big-whale coin dumps and are willing to pay for it and put that consideration over any other considerations about a coin's qualities, its dev's or its community's.
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March 27, 2014, 11:43:05 AM
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Announcing a new block explorer for DarkCoin!

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/


Note that this is completely new tech, not based on ABE or existing explorers.

  • displays correct addresses - with an X, as they are in the blockchain Wink
  • rich list, wealth distribution
  • pools/mining extraction watch
  • tickers, market cap, difficulty chart & other misc. features
  • can display addresses with lots of transactions

Note that this is still beta software, so blockchain interpretation bugs may lurk.

XjzXrN9DKff5ZmT3btuw7n4s9cUFY94fs2


Good Service.

"Pools share for last 100 blocks" good one !!
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March 27, 2014, 11:46:32 AM
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I think the Dark community should implement new rules for trolls....starting NOW!

If they ask a serious question, then we answer it, if they start the FUD and trolling its immediate ignore, no quote or reply.

I don't want to have to skip through pages of people quoting their stupidly long rants of worthless dribble. Then we continue to fuel their obvious attempts at getting people worked up.

Don't waste your time, a simple ignore will do. Lets just keep this place full of useful information to better the coin/community.



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And no one tell them about darkcointalk...

DRK: XepkHLT2MYTXSFDc2muiGeA9eRzG6ytpSy       P2Pool: stratum+tcp://darkcoin.kicks-ass.net:7903
BTC: 1LVE3pFpAhSrHbiK5hAUWDeVrB5UrPXRkJ                    http://darkcoin.kicks-ass.net
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March 27, 2014, 11:48:25 AM
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this was pushed because it was paraded around as a "CPU coin"
read here.. List of CPU-ONLY AltCoins
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=379601.0
It's the third coin down and when it was added before there was no gpu miner mentioned.

it's a deceptive game and ploy to get people involved.. been there and done that time after time.

in the beginning it was cpu only, then someone else than the developer made a gpu miner, and your blaming us for being a shitcoin, because someone made a gpu miner for it, come on, thats like saying that bitcoin is a shitcoin because they didnt warn about the asics...

I will give you this much: yes, there are alot of shitcoins, but see innovation, where innovation is, instead of just attacking for the sake of attacking

bingo we have a winner LOL

and i quote..

"in the beginning it was cpu only"

thank you you made my point clearly..
and i want to clarify a little something for you noob idiots..
what you meant to say is "in the beginning it was cpu only and had private gpu miners for coin devs to rape and flash mine it privately"
again Spoetnik ? yeah again.. because the last 20 times they pulled that routine it made them a TON of money so of course their going to keep doing it. lol

such gullable much dumb very propaganda  Roll Eyes

Just so you know, and not making a fool of yourself with your ignorance of the situation, there are quite a few ex-CPU coins out there that are currently having GPU mining precisely because sph-sgminer was developed for DRK, in part by code by Evan (Darkcoins creator) and phm (the man accepting a >3000 DRK bounty to complete the opencl implentation). The bounty was paid so that a GPU mining could be made public and not be kept selfishly by any party that could rape a coin.

After the creation of Darkcoin's GPU miner (mid February) that covered 11 algorithms, it was just a matter of time (weeks) to expand its functionality to cover the other cpu coins which used less, but overlapping hashes.

Essentially, Darkcoin paid dev costs so that itself and a list of ex-CPU coins can be fairly mined by every GPU user, instead of having a "the crowd is using CPU and a few guys are using GPUs" situation.
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March 27, 2014, 11:51:02 AM
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Does darkcoin network have multipool, big whale, or api bug  ?

I have seen hash spikes at suchppol(2- 3 GH/s).






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what is the total number of addresses?

That can be a difficult to interpret metric as addresses are regularly created automatically by the client (cf. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Change), many are one-time use, they are numerous and difficult to tie reliably to a main address.

FWIW DarkCoin has currently 8821 addresses with non-zero balances, yet 141809 distinct addresses were seen on the network ie. held value at some point in time, but no longer do.

So most of the addresses are change and only ever saw one transaction in and out, and the wallet owner was probably never aware of them.

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Does darkcoin network have multipool, big whale, or api bug  ?

I have seen hash spike at suchppol(2- 3 GH/s).








Looking at the graph, it seems like a rise in network hashing power precedes the difficulty spike - the block height line is still rising pretty smoothly. I think this "ekg" pattern might be what the DGW's response to a whale. If the difficulty spiked without a corresponding has power spike, it would be disconcerting, but if I read your chart correctly, it seems like we have stayed pretty much on target for block generation time.

DRK: XepkHLT2MYTXSFDc2muiGeA9eRzG6ytpSy       P2Pool: stratum+tcp://darkcoin.kicks-ass.net:7903
BTC: 1LVE3pFpAhSrHbiK5hAUWDeVrB5UrPXRkJ                    http://darkcoin.kicks-ass.net
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Does darkcoin network have multipool, big whale, or api bug  ?

I have seen hash spike at suchppol(2- 3 GH/s).

Is it hashrate reported by stratum or by the client?

Stratum hashrate can be subject to bugs, but can otherwise be accurate (assuming vardiff is let free to adjust, and clients miners report their hashrate often enough).
Client hashrate is derived from the delay between blocks, and is wildly inaccurate if not averaged over many blocks, or if there are clock synchronization issue at mining pools (one reason why blocks are chained by their hashes, and why block N+1 can sometime have a reported time that predates block N).

(note: it will still result in a difficulty spike, as difficulty is derived from hashrate, which is derived from delay between blocks)

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No wonder prices don't move much in this coin.

Nevertheless, the developer is good and the coin is innovative.


Several top addresses are likely to be exchanges.
Also it's quite clear from cryptsy trades and twitter that some traders are stockpiling.

That is a given, top addresses are likely exchanges (maybe 5 at most). Still very unhealthy distribution and will most likely be a barrier to entry for new investors.

By comparison:

   Top 100 Richest Addresses
Bitcoin   2,397,120 BTC($1,338,518,627 USD)19.09% Total
Litecoin   12,805,933 LTC($198,564,944 USD)47.54% Total
Auroracoin   10,130,190 AUR($67,889,483 USD)95.26% Total
Peercoin   11,968,520 PPC($31,020,934 USD)56.29% Total
Dogecoin   33,028,470,386 DOGE($19,788,298 USD)51.33% Total
Namecoin   4,305,573 NMC($11,407,241 USD)51.51% Total
Quarkcoin   163,381,385 QRK($4,356,810 USD)65.96% Total
Feathercoin   19,009,353 FTC($3,052,022 USD)50.40% Total
Novacoin   507,624 NVC($3,111,261 USD)67.83% Total
Vertcoin   1,085,037 VTC($1,632,417 USD)36.91% Total
Megacoin   14,998,491 MEC($2,015,482 USD)65.92% Total
Worldcoin   31,391,810 WDC($1,618,982 USD)63.02% Total
Terracoin   3,289,608 TRC($381,736 USD)56.86% Total


source: http://bitinfocharts.com/


This would seem to explain a lot, but consider...
1) about average?: it's about average among the coins here as far as the other Rich Lists here: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/pot/
2) what is the total number of addresses?: one issue with these distribution measures is that they dont factor in the total number of addresses. A new coin might have only 200 addresses, so you'd expect the top 200 to own 100%. Point is, the standard rich-list measure that looks only at number of addresses doesn't factor in what percentage of the total number of addresses those top addresses make up.
3) exchanges: they make up big shares of any rich list, and different coins can have different levels of trading intensity on the exchanges.

In any case, kudos for this kind of info. Coin distribution is clearly a key metric the market cares about. As we can see with the success of BC, an otherwise unremarkable coin, on one end and the failure of QRK, which was very innovative at the time it was released, on the other end (and many other examples in between on both sides of the spectrum), people want insulation from the risk of big-whale coin dumps and are willing to pay for it and put that consideration over any other considerations about a coin's qualities, its dev's or its community's.

I would assume some wallets belong to some exchanges rather than private accounts.
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