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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722703 times)
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March 31, 2014, 05:14:11 PM
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Here we go ... Just give him the source code already.  Roll Eyes
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March 31, 2014, 05:14:46 PM
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please read again what he has written on the last 2 pages, then read this again:

the problem with anonycoin, he is dismissive even before he has really seen it, and even before knowing anything regarding the way it works,

its always good to have 3rd party to look things trough, but being desmissive before even knowing anything about this particular implementation thats more like trolling...


Because I am a world-class programmer who knows my shit. I can deduce all possibilities.

You don't know who I am do you or the software you use which I created? If you did, you would understand.

Here we go ... Just give him the source code already.  Roll Eyes

I don't need the source code. I could write an altcoin from scratch in weeks. Wouldn't need to look at any source code from Bitcoin nor any altcoin.

I was just saying that "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow".

That is Linus Torvalds' law (as stated by Eric Raymond).

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March 31, 2014, 05:19:19 PM
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please read again what he has written on the last 2 pages, then read this again:

the problem with anonycoin, he is dismissive even before he has really seen it, and even before knowing anything regarding the way it works,

its always good to have 3rd party to look things trough, but being desmissive before even knowing anything about this particular implementation thats more like trolling...


Because I am a world-class programmer who knows my shit. I can deduce all possibilities.

You don't know who I am do you or the software you use which I created? If you did, you would understand.

Here we go ... Just give him the source code already.  Roll Eyes

I don't need the source code. I could write an altcoin from scratch in weeks. Wouldn't need to look at any source code from Bitcoin nor any altcoin.

I expect nothing less from a self-proclaimed "world-class programmer who knows his shit".  Wink
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March 31, 2014, 05:20:36 PM
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I expect nothing less from a self-proclaimed "world-class programmer who knows his shit".  Wink

Damn correct. Agreed and thanks.

Okay I am gone now. I passed along my suggestion. Did my part. Buzz me if needed.

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March 31, 2014, 05:23:28 PM
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I expect nothing less from a self-proclaimed "world-class programmer who knows his shit".  Wink

Damn correct. Agreed and thanks.

Okay I am gone now. I passed along my suggestion. Did my part. Buzz me if needed.

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March 31, 2014, 05:27:25 PM
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any Mining Profitability calculator for drk?
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March 31, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
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There's a difference between bashing and commenting.

Everyone here is part of the community even if you deem them negative. Any shit can lead to good shit. Embrace it instead and stop the personal level shit. That just ruins for outsiders wanting to get in.
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March 31, 2014, 05:47:41 PM
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Design B: Users provide inputs, outputs and collateral at once. In this case the master node knows who is sending money to who, but later it can tell who didn’t sign.

I’ve chosen to use design B (users will add inputs and outputs at the same time) because it’s the only design that can’t be attacked in the way you’re saying.

Okay he has confirmed that you are not anonymous to the master node, as I wrote upthread would be the case if he associates the collateral transaction with both input and output stages of the CoinJoin.

eduffield I would like to say that is not acceptable because for the same reason I don't want to use mixer or laundry website, I can't know if the master node is an NSA honeypot.

I would like to suggest you think about my divide-and-conquer idea as another electable option for users.

If there is failed stage, then divide the inputs into two groups. Then ask for outputs again. Divide and conquer as necessary, then the join will complete.

Not ideal, but at least you don't break anonymity and require trust of the master node.

Best of luck with it.

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definitiv an nice idea to use a "divide-and-conquer"-algorithm on signing !

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March 31, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
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Design B: Users provide inputs, outputs and collateral at once. In this case the master node knows who is sending money to who, but later it can tell who didn’t sign.

I’ve chosen to use design B (users will add inputs and outputs at the same time) because it’s the only design that can’t be attacked in the way you’re saying.

Okay he has confirmed that you are not anonymous to the master node, as I wrote upthread would be the case if he associates the collateral transaction with both input and output stages of the CoinJoin.

eduffield I would like to say that is not acceptable because for the same reason I don't want to use mixer or laundry website, I can't know if the master node is an NSA honeypot.

I would like to suggest you think about my divide-and-conquer idea as another electable option for users.

If there is failed stage, then divide the inputs into two groups. Then ask for outputs again. Divide and conquer as necessary, then the join will complete.

Not ideal, but at least you don't break anonymity and require trust of the master node.

Best of luck with it.

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definitiv an nice idea to use a "divide-and-conquer"-algorithm on signing !

the master node is still elected randomly, so no node will be default master everytime

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March 31, 2014, 06:28:07 PM
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Here is the fix for the R9 290 mining.
Tested on BAMT 1.6, it worked.
You can put it in first post, or not.


I have sent a 30 Darkcoin Bounty to cryptogretzky by myself, for the bug finding.

If any-one want to pay me back a part of that bounty, here is my address to share the cost.
XavaNMidPmofBUt4RWLf6YHhNDUNA7TjY6

As I only have 3 r9 290 I'll make 3 month to recover that bounty with my increased hasrate, but I'll be in peace with this bug.






run "aticonfig --adapter=all --initial -f".

add these 4 lines into /etc/rc.local before exit 0

Code:
export DISPLAY=:0
xset s off
xset -dpms
xset s noblank

Just in case it's not already executable, run:

Code:
chmod +x /etc/rc.local

Enjoy, and sleep in peace now Cheesy

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March 31, 2014, 06:56:36 PM
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Design B: Users provide inputs, outputs and collateral at once. In this case the master node knows who is sending money to who, but later it can tell who didn’t sign.

I’ve chosen to use design B (users will add inputs and outputs at the same time) because it’s the only design that can’t be attacked in the way you’re saying.

Okay he has confirmed that you are not anonymous to the master node, as I wrote upthread would be the case if he associates the collateral transaction with both input and output stages of the CoinJoin.

eduffield I would like to say that is not acceptable because for the same reason I don't want to use mixer or laundry website, I can't know if the master node is an NSA honeypot.

I would like to suggest you think about my divide-and-conquer idea as another electable option for users.

If there is failed stage, then divide the inputs into two groups. Then ask for outputs again. Divide and conquer as necessary, then the join will complete.

Not ideal, but at least you don't break anonymity and require trust of the master node.

Best of luck with it.

+1

definitiv an nice idea to use a "divide-and-conquer"-algorithm on signing !

the master node is still elected randomly, so no node will be default master everytime

yes, but if you could do it better, than do it better, even if the current solution seems trustfull and enough (because of randomly chosen nodes), but something like the divide-and-conquer approach will help it to make it even better in my eyes.

ofc there are problems, too - which needs a solution. like - if you divide-and-conquer, at some points the darksend transaction wouldn't be as obfuscating as it could be, because only a fragment of users would be in that darksend transaction. (right?)

but i believe thats a good idea, which could help us.

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March 31, 2014, 07:36:06 PM
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I see waves of Darkcoin mentioning all over the place. Please are discovering Darkcoin organically and indirectly through stuff like the threatened LTC fork*, DGW, new coins with X11 that are saying to miners "use darkcoin miner" etc.

* The irony: The Light side is at risk of being consumed by the DRKness Tongue


There are some moments in your life when you see the ripples you've created and how they create a global impact and you're like "wow". I bet Evan will be increasingly experiencing those type of moments...
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March 31, 2014, 07:43:59 PM
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Ugh, internet went down, got it fixed now though.  No idea how long it was down, grrr!

Anyways, Just want CHAOSiTEC to know that the dice game is working for me now, and I have no idea why.  Maybe you fixed it?  Maybe I'm crazy.  I give it 50/50 either way ;P

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March 31, 2014, 07:44:25 PM
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Here is the fix for the R9 290 mining.
Tested on BAMT 1.6, it worked.
You can put it in first post, or not.


I have sent a 30 Darkcoin Bounty to cryptogretzky by myself, for the bug finding.

If any-one want to pay me back a part of that bounty, here is my address to share the cost.
XavaNMidPmofBUt4RWLf6YHhNDUNA7TjY6

As I only have 3 r9 290 I'll make 3 month to recover that bounty with my increased hasrate, but I'll be in peace with this bug.






run "aticonfig --adapter=all --initial -f".

add these 4 lines into /etc/rc.local before exit 0

Code:
export DISPLAY=:0
xset s off
xset -dpms
xset s noblank

Just in case it's not already executable, run:

Code:
chmod +x /etc/rc.local

Enjoy, and sleep in peace now Cheesy

Great! Is there a solution for windows as well?
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March 31, 2014, 07:48:54 PM
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Enjoy, and sleep in peace now Cheesy

Great! Is there a solution for windows as well?

Solution for linux. screensaver off.
Windows ? might be screensaver off.
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March 31, 2014, 08:20:44 PM
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Here is the fix for the R9 290 mining.
Tested on BAMT 1.6, it worked.
You can put it in first post, or not.


I have sent a 30 Darkcoin Bounty to cryptogretzky by myself, for the bug finding.

If any-one want to pay me back a part of that bounty, here is my address to share the cost.
XavaNMidPmofBUt4RWLf6YHhNDUNA7TjY6

As I only have 3 r9 290 I'll make 3 month to recover that bounty with my increased hasrate, but I'll be in peace with this bug.






run "aticonfig --adapter=all --initial -f".

add these 4 lines into /etc/rc.local before exit 0

Code:
export DISPLAY=:0
xset s off
xset -dpms
xset s noblank

Just in case it's not already executable, run:

Code:
chmod +x /etc/rc.local

Enjoy, and sleep in peace now Cheesy

Great! Is there a solution for windows as well?

"Fix" ? I've been mining with my R9 290s for months without issue. What exactly is it fixing?
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March 31, 2014, 08:22:23 PM
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here is my suggestion for the drk-logo(s)



have a closer look at the logo-discussion:

https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/logo-discussion.105/

Seriously impressed with this - I especially like the way the circular 'd' shows kinda how DarkSend works (in a very loose manner, but still cool) :-D

n00b, did your read that or did you "get" that?  Just want to know?  If you just "got" it, that'd be a big plus, because I read it before I thought about it, so I don't know how naturally it comes across Smiley

I do like it though, a lot Smiley

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March 31, 2014, 08:41:16 PM
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Hehe fun thing.

We all believe in Eduffield but we are a bit skeptical towards Darksend.

So.. Eduffield if you just say it will work for sure, we all can start buying more DRK!

It's code... code can break if it's not clean, extremely well thought out, trial-tested, reviewed, etc etc. It needs time to be patched to better levels of reliable functionality and prove itself, just like BTC code is taking years and still has questionmarks if something can break it and render it useless. Even things like stratum, kgw, dgw, need fixing. You can't have complicated code working flawlessly from day 1, no matter the assurances. That's just how it is.

It's always better to have realistic expectations rather than unrealistic ones because that way no disillusionment can occur later on and comments like "ohhhhhh disaster, darksend is a flop" start to spring up after some bug or something.


You know, the solution eduffield came up with is very simple, has about a 99.9% obfuscation (enough info, you maybe able to make some associations with enough power, but very expensive).  This is why I see this as a huge advantage:

1. the simpler something is, the more directly it works, the less "holes" that will be found! 

2.  The "hole" this system has is obvious and a clear solution has been implemented. I think it will be very difficult if not impossible to take advantage of this system because of the fine charged if there is any funny business.  It's financially unfeasible.  This is the only "hole" that can be seen and it is logically and financially closed.

3.  The NSA possibly could find probable cause that a wallet belongs to a person, maybe even that that person has made repeated purchases to another person, I don't know.  They almost have infinite funds.  However, if I were the NSA, I'd try to get this information by infecting computers with back doors etc... malware, which they already do according to Snowden.  Who can defend against a government that does such things, and ours does.  The only way to protect ourselves from the government is by staying off line.

So, you can pile more systems of obfuscation on top of DarkSend as it is, but you would only make it have more hidden holes that could be discovered by a malicious person who could do a ton of damage!  Keep it simple stupid, is a successful acronym for a reason: KISS

And finding a simple yet extremely effective solution is a sign of brilliance.  E=mc(2) came from clearing out the debris and only looking at the facts, the clear facts.

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March 31, 2014, 08:47:15 PM
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A c h m a c h i n g !

But, but but... whatdoes this mean?

Google translate says it's Irish and translates it into English the same a Irish, LOL

This is now a deep mystery for me, I must know!

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March 31, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
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85 designs submitted on the designcrowd site! Should be a lot of great options, can't wait to see them in ~2 days.

Wow, this is going to be VERY difficult!  Too much of a good thing!  LOL  Believe me, if you've seen what people have come up with at http://darkcointalk.org , you'll know what I mean!  And that's only about half a dozen!

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