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May 24, 2014, 05:18:23 PM
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Ah shit, peercoin has taken third place back.  Shocked

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May 24, 2014, 05:19:13 PM
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That's your contribution to Litecoin, spreading FUD ? That's right it's easier than innovation. Roll Eyes

i have no litecoin, i have qrk and btq

Everything is energy, even mass, first of all mass

Just believe in old TTC Tittiecoin, will be big in months

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May 24, 2014, 05:19:26 PM
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What are the current estimates for daily reward per MN?
Graphed here: http://drk.poolhash.org/darksend.html

Thanks!

So one MN currently rewards about 2.3 DRK PER DAY???

This is so insanely profitable it somehow seems to good to be true...Well. I`ll see what my Nodes will do tomorrow.

Did I really get the graph right? Still can`t believe it. I thought it was going to be about funny money to support the idea and the network, but this is really awsome. 2,3 DRK per DAY??? Ok, the number of MNs might climb, but still...
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May 24, 2014, 05:21:40 PM
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Who is selling ?
I sold all of my DRK. Just tired of seeing new dates of RC2 and RC3 and shit .

LOL
Thank you for the cheap coins my friend. My wife says thank you too, she will love the new car that you gave her.
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May 24, 2014, 05:22:09 PM
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That's your contribution to Litecoin, spreading FUD ? That's right it's easier than innovation. Roll Eyes

i have no litecoin, i have qrk and btq

I believe you if you say so. </sarcasm>
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May 24, 2014, 05:22:30 PM
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I suggest that the Darkcoin community begin to take the moral high ground.  I've noticed people in this thread talking shit about other coins.  All that does is create blowback.  I really can't blame people from other coins talking shit about DRK if we're talking shit about other coins.

I suggest that you do not argue with trolls.  Feel free to post links to and quote our ever-improving FAQ, but do NOT stoop to their level.  "Kill them with kindness".  

"I understand you're not interested in DRK, but here are the facts [link].  I wish you luck with your coin."  

If they continue, simply put them on ignore.

Stop engaging in negative activity.  Stop talking shit about other coins.  Let's turn positive.  Let's connect to the emotional maturity that is within all of us for the greater good of Darkcoin.
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May 24, 2014, 05:23:56 PM
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I just realized that most of the darkcoins like 90+% are owned by less then 1000 people Smiley .

I just realised that 90% of the FUD is posted by less than 10 trolls.
I'm not trolling. Actually i belong to this 1000 people . Anyway you can check and comment this link: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/#!rich
If you belong to that 1000 people, point out the address.  I will then PM you a number between 1.0 and 5.0.  If you then move that amount of coin within 10 minutes, I will pay you .5 BTC.
I am happy to take you up on this if Terzo chickens out.  Grin

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May 24, 2014, 05:24:29 PM
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Stop engaging in negative activity.  Let's turn positive.  Let's connect to the emotional maturity that is within all of us for the greater good of Darkcoin.

Good advice.

If you behave nicely you are allowed to blame others for their misbehaviour.

If you argue with idiots, they take you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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May 24, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
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I suggest that the Darkcoin community begin to take the moral high ground.  I've noticed people in this thread talking shit about other coins.  All that does is create blowback.  I really can't blame people from other coins talking shit about DRK if we're talking shit about other coins.

I suggest that you do not argue with trolls.  Feel free to post links to and quote our ever-improving FAQ, but do NOT stoop to their level.  "Kill them with kindness".  

"I understand you're not interested in DRK, but here are the facts [link].  I wish you luck with your coin."  

If they continue, simply put them on ignore.

Stop engaging in negative activity.  Stop talking shit about other coins.  Let's turn positive.  Let's connect to the emotional maturity that is within all of us for the greater good of Darkcoin.

+1, some people "troll" just for the sake of it, or they're angry, just leave those trolls alone. I'm done engaging them in conversation

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May 24, 2014, 05:25:07 PM
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Some advice: If you're one of the people that just dumped for no reason other than to follow the whales bait, I suggest you take a break from trading these coins.

Ask yourself this: Did your sell secure profits relative to Bitcoin? If so then you have won, you just haven't won as much as you could have.

Stop and take a break.

If you dumped and lost money, well I'm not sure what to say.

what about if your advise to hold is wrong?Smiley will u pay me back personally if i will hold, bear trap will finish and i will loose?Smiley will u? if not so keep ur advise for yourselves, because u behave as bankster:) people still can decide what is better for them, ur advise is for ur profits

No my advice is not "for ur profits".

I do not hold Dark and have never held Dark. My advice was actually for generic swings like this, it applies to all coins.

If the price starts to dump for no reason (no news) then it's likely to be a whale baiting you, holding is almost always the right thing to do. (remember, this only applies if there was no news that instant, external factors like news make my advice here void.)

So the price dumps for no reason, and you dump too, big mistake.

So if you've been buying whatever asset for whatever amount of time, and now you dumped and lost all your asset (In this case Darkcoin) you can do one of either two things:

1 - Calculate if you're in profits. Are you now up in bitcoin or usd? If so don't be too hard on yourself.

2 - If you bought high and now the dump has cost you money in both Darkcoin and Bitcoin/usd you're options are limited, you've made real losses and may never get them back. This is where I recommend taking a step back and deciding if this game of playing the market is for you.

This advice is for every stock or coin.

This advice helps me in no way relative to you because I do not hold Darkcoins. (I have spoken out about Dark many times)

It's just advice to people that are hurting from a whale bait, that is all.

**This assumes you have calculated the fundamentals for your coin and have reason to believe that it's price is justified. (which you did of course :p)
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May 24, 2014, 05:26:20 PM
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That's your contribution to Litecoin, spreading FUD ? That's right it's easier than innovation. Roll Eyes

i have no litecoin, i have qrk and btq

I believe you if you say so. </sarcasm>

before u say something check my all posts, czeck my reddit tech-solutions account also, do some homework and read:)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

Everything is energy, even mass, first of all mass

Just believe in old TTC Tittiecoin, will be big in months

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May 24, 2014, 05:26:29 PM
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So, Darksend is almost upon us - we still need to think about end-to-end privacy and this is something that is mostly up to the end user.

Ownership of Darkcoins by the process of mining is still potentially traceable on the blockchain and it is therefore possible for an adversary to identify you at the point of spend. For example;

- Registering and mining in a pool could allow an adversary to link your wallet address to your IP address and/or email address to identify you. (Darkcoin pools should implement strong https encryption to help to avoid this - at least 2048-bit or 4096-bit - Self-Signed certs. or even using free certs. like CAcert.org are preferable to having no SSL at all).

- When mining in the pool you are identifiable as being in a sub-set of user accounts due to the tcp http pool address and info. being sent in plain text.

- P2pool users addresses are shown by 'default' and should at least be obfuscated on a pools static pages.

- Changes in a Darkcoin wallet balance at the point of spend could potentially be used to link a transaction to a purchase, given the above.

Darksend obviously makes these examples much more difficult for an adversary to establish and is an improvement on Bitcoins blockchain technology in terms of a users privacy and anonymity.

What we need next is to implement Dark mining.

This can actually be done already by using existing privacy tools and by making all Darkcoin users more aware of what they can do as a community.

We also need to develop some new tools to make this as easy as possible for all Darkcoin users. In fact, the more people that adopt these techniques the better:

"you can't be anonymous by yourself" !

A good way to go about this would be to build and use P2pool's running as dual stack nodes through Tor network .onion addresses.

Setting minerd or sgminer to use this type of pool correctly and efficiently is already possible with existing tools and some know how.

The host system should ideally be connected to a VPN with Tor running through it. The user should create a new dedicated wallet.

Linux users could use proxychains - http://proxychains.sourceforge.net/ - http://proxychainsgui.sourceforge.net/ to route traffic via the Tor network.

Windows and Mac users could use ProxyCap - http://www.proxycap.com/ - or 'Proxifier' - http://www.proxifier.com/

Here is an example of minerd running directly through Tor on the localhost machine via 'Proxifier'.
 



Proxifier > Profile >

Proxy Servers:

Address:Port : Type


Proxification Rules:

Applications: minerd.exe or sgminer.exe

Target Hosts: as P2pool address or .onion address

Target Ports: as P2pool port

Action: Proxy from Proxy Servers i.e. Tor on localhost (127.0.0.1) Socks5 (9150 TBB or 9050)


Name Resolution:
 
Proxifier DNS Settings: Resolve hostnames through proxy (only i.e. Tor) to avoid DNS leaks.


...
 

Paid for solutions are obviously not ideal in terms of a users privacy. If I'm not mistaken the original stand alone Stratum protocol had support for Tor / Proxy connectivity ?? using;

  --socks PROXY - Use socks5 proxy for upstream Stratum connection, specify as host:port
  --tor - Configure proxy to mine over Tor (requires Tor running on local machine)

However, windows (particularly version 7) is notoriously bad at forwarding and has issues with DNS leaks etc. This is something to implement fully into new (free) darkcoin mining tools across all platforms.

...

Initial testing has shown that the any loss of accepted shares / work etc. is in fact almost completely negligible with out-of-the-box settings. However, their are some tricks and configurations, both server side and client side, that can be implemented to increase throughput and connectivity.

New P2pool's running on Tor .onion addresses is the first requirement. I'm OK with doing the node hosting and Tor set-up if any experienced Darkcoin P2pool operators want in or to help implement this. Just waiting for Darksend to officially kick-in and for the latest P2pool code to be trusted as stable pending the fork. Anyone else with good knowledge of tcp http address obfuscation and scrubbing ?


Posts like this one are the reason why I keep coming back to bitcointalk. I understand it only partially and I barely mine, but I've saved it in my computer. Thanks

You're welcome!

Those running a number of rigs might find this useful: https://code.google.com/p/badvpn/ - which is certainly a project that could be built upon.

BadVPN on Github: https://github.com/ambrop72/badvpn

...

For easy Tor connectivity of a Darkcoin wallet I have a guide posted here:

http://www.darkproxy.net/darknet.php or https://ssl.darkproxy.net/darknet.php

I'll release details on those pages and a Howto guide for the Darkcoin .onion P2pool node's and set-up - when they are up and running.

In the main part, adding the Pools port address to LongLivedPorts in your torrc will give better throughput and connectivity. Its also possible to add some settings to improve on circuit build times, to prevent shares being dropped and their is also the option to use Single Hop Relays with ExcludeSingleHopRelays 0 etc. See: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-manual.html and my other BCT forum post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331077.0 - which is a work in progress, although highlights why some torrc settings and recommendations exist.

...

A good few pages back in the thread I posted a list of VPS companies providing privacy and anonymity focused hosting. Anyway, a really good updated list can also be found here: http://www.exoticvps.com/   Grin

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May 24, 2014, 05:27:38 PM
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What are the current estimates for daily reward per MN?
Graphed here: http://drk.poolhash.org/darksend.html

Thanks!

So one MN currently rewards about 2.3 DRK PER DAY???

This is so insanely profitable it somehow seems to good to be true...Well. I`ll see what my Nodes will do tomorrow.
That is quite good. Are there lots of masternodes still waiting to switch on, or can we expect a rush to buy after tomorrow when estimation becomes reality becomes headlines about licence to print money?

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May 24, 2014, 05:28:01 PM
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I just wanna say...

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for the longest time..."

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lol so many idiots in here spreading lies about darkcoin, it's funny really

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

Everything is energy, even mass, first of all mass

Just believe in old TTC Tittiecoin, will be big in months

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May 24, 2014, 05:28:30 PM
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Have we reached the bottom already? Smiley
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I suggest that the Darkcoin community begin to take the moral high ground.  I've noticed people in this thread talking shit about other coins.  All that does is create blowback.  I really can't blame people from other coins talking shit about DRK if we're talking shit about other coins.

I suggest that you do not argue with trolls.  Feel free to post links to and quote our ever-improving FAQ, but do NOT stoop to their level.  "Kill them with kindness".  

"I understand you're not interested in DRK, but here are the facts [link].  I wish you luck with your coin."  

If they continue, simply put them on ignore.

Stop engaging in negative activity.  Stop talking shit about other coins.  Let's turn positive.  Let's connect to the emotional maturity that is within all of us for the greater good of Darkcoin.

+1, some people "troll" just for the sake of it, or they're angry, just leave those trolls alone. I'm done engaging them in conversation

You both are right but sometimes silence can imply consent. We know but people coming from the first time here don't.
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May 24, 2014, 05:30:10 PM
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u FUD retards... you call this DUMP? 0.02 ?

what's the price 1 month ago? go and kill your self!

i dont know where did you learn your math guys but drop to 0.02 ULTRA STABLE is not DUMP

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and vice versa  Grin

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