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[Brilliantrocket]

Where are these quotes coming from ?

www.darkcointalk.org

Apparently from this post : https://darkcointalk.org/threads/losing-faith-in-drk.2210/

But honestly Evan's answers don't address OP's concerns afaik!

I kind of agree with that post. I don't think the development of Darkcoin was handled in a very logical way. The masternodes are the foundation of Darkcoin. Logically, anything involving masternodes should be brought to completion prior to focusing on everything that comes after. The whole DarkTor idea is very interesting, but at this point it's a complete distraction. Before even spending a single moment's thought on building infrastructure on top of masternodes, everything involving masternode payment should have been brought to completion. Why are we nearly nine months into this project, and we still don't know how masternode payments are going to be enforced?

I know I sound like a broken record here, but this is beyond critical. Without enforcement, Darkcoin is dead. Until this is figured out and finished, everything else should be placed on the back burner. There's no point in even thinking about DarkTor if payments aren't being enforced. It's like thinking about what sort of rims you are going to buy for your car, when you don't even have an engine!

[Minotaur26]

Where are these quotes coming from ?

www.darkcointalk.org

Apparently from this post : https://darkcointalk.org/threads/losing-faith-in-drk.2210/

But honestly Evan's answers don't address OP's concerns afaik!

I think those concerns were extensively discussed in the thread, and as a result testnet for RC5 is starting this week it seems like we are on schedule. One of the concerns was enforcement, I run several master nodes and can tell you that payments are nice I wouldn’t stop my master nodes for any reason. I think Evan recognizes everything that needs to be done, I just think is a matter of priorities, what I get from what he is saying is payments are good enough for now so that he prioritizes other areas before going back to enforcement.  The other concerns were with regards to RC4, but that was a release candidate not a final release, and it was a complete rewrite from the previous version, RC5 builds over RC4 so it improves and corrects that is easier than a complete rewrite. I really think that it all boils down to price, some people are impatient about the price, but the project needs to continue moving forward, if we do a good job the price will eventually catch up.  

I think the reason why the price has been shy is although the core functionality of Darksend+ was a success on mainnet, usability was poor,  if you are not a hardcore user you wouldnt bother anonymizing coins on mainnet just yet. RC5 will improve on that and make it easier to know where you are in the mixing process, make it more friendly and easier to understand.  People will start adopting and with some documentation the market will finally accept that it is working properly. If you have been on Darkcoin for a while you know Evan will figure it out and build over what we have so is a great opportunity to buy.

[BrainShutdown]

Moving forward!

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/get-back-on-testnet.2240/

 

[eduffield]

Where are these quotes coming from ?

www.darkcointalk.org

Apparently from this post : https://darkcointalk.org/threads/losing-faith-in-drk.2210/

But honestly Evan's answers don't address OP's concerns afaik!

I kind of agree with that post. I don't think the development of Darkcoin was handled in a very logical way. The masternodes are the foundation of Darkcoin. Logically, anything involving masternodes should be brought to completion prior to focusing on everything that comes after. The whole DarkTor idea is very interesting, but at this point it's a complete distraction. Before even spending a single moment's thought on building infrastructure on top of masternodes, everything involving masternode payment should have been brought to completion. Why are we nearly nine months into this project, and we still don't know how masternode payments are going to be enforced?

I know I sound like a broken record here, but this is beyond critical. Without enforcement, Darkcoin is dead. Until this is figured out and finished, everything else should be placed on the back burner. There's no point in even thinking about DarkTor if payments aren't being enforced. It's like thinking about what sort of rims you are going to buy for your car, when you don't even have an engine!

I saw this and decided to go back and see if I could answer the questions more thoroughly.

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/losing-faith-in-drk.2210/page-5#post-18919

[toknormal]

How come I'm still getting masternode payments even though I haven't upgraded to RC4 ?

[EDIT] Oops ! Didn't realise "our leader" had spoken just while I was making that post. Answered my question already - "not a hardfork" I presume ?

[eduffield]

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-fork-in-the-road.2244/

[drawingthesun]

So the guy who sold celeb photos for bitcoin, he should really have used darkcoin...

Why? Bitcoin is as secure as Darkcoin, if he wanted real anonymity he would have used Monero.

[pookielax31]

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-fork-in-the-road.2244/

How bout you try hooking up with the open bazzar guys so that dark can be accepted on there!!

[salmion]

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-fork-in-the-road.2244/

How bout you try hooking up with the open bazzar guys so that dark can be accepted on there!!

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/open-bazaar-integration.2045/

[qwizzie]

if you want to reply to this post (https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-fork-in-the-road.2244/)
i think its best to do so in the darkcointalk forum itself... or reply on both forums.

[Minotaur26]

Could someone send me some tDRK please.

mujizHA4THmpcnwtap4cVXL1y7tnkbTBed


EDIT: Thank you just got some tDRK, more people should join, testnet is fun is like playing Monopoly. You get to send tDRK like you are rich and also contribute by messing up with the client. Then when the release finally comes you are comfortable already. All you need is a darkcoin.conf with testnet=1 and that's it.  Join testnet is really fun!

[BrainShutdown]

Could someone send me some tDRK please.

mujizHA4THmpcnwtap4cVXL1y7tnkbTBed

sent d5d5e62474de8856eaf70cc90739b169c33f400a853404a23f500f36b478c984

[eduffield]

So the guy who sold celeb photos for bitcoin, he should really have used darkcoin...

Why? Bitcoin is as secure as Darkcoin, if he wanted real anonymity he would have used Monero.

I can't imagine someone with your amount of history would be so ill informed? Darkcoin is quite anonymous. Have you even read how it works? It's my own implementation of coinjoin that is much more anonymous than anything offered on the bitcoin network, plus it's not vulnerable to any of the coinjoin attacks (coinjoin sudoku). It's decentralized, secure, timing-attack resistant and it works on mainnet, right now.

I'm going to just guess that you haven't actually done any reading about Darksend and show you how it works:

http://blog.anonymousbitcoinbook.com/2014/08/visualizing-one-round-of-darkcoins-darksend/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0

Here's an example transaction:

http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/6f52d97497c6f6ff2d866de53a1dcd8b3d3b74c8feb16e2e91624fda0985a917

So the gist is if you put 550DRK into the pool, it'll be broken down into 100DRK*5, 10DRK*5 and paired with the same denominations from another user. So after that transaction, no one can tell who is paying for what.

It's also very low bloat compared to monero /bytecoin because it only happens when it's needed. The whole blockchain is 346MB right now. Monero is not even close to as old and already is many times that size.

[Minotaur26]

Could someone send me some tDRK please.

mujizHA4THmpcnwtap4cVXL1y7tnkbTBed

sent d5d5e62474de8856eaf70cc90739b169c33f400a853404a23f500f36b478c984

Thanks!

[Minotaur26]

bump

So the guy who sold celeb photos for bitcoin, he should really have used darkcoin...

Why? Bitcoin is as secure as Darkcoin, if he wanted real anonymity he would have used Monero.

I can't imagine someone with your amount of history would be so ill informed? Darkcoin is quite anonymous. Have you even read how it works? It's my own implementation of coinjoin that is much more anonymous than anything offered on the bitcoin network, plus it's not vulnerable to any of the coinjoin attacks (coinjoin sudoku). It's decentralized, secure, timing-attack resistant and it works on mainnet, right now.

I'm going to just guess that you haven't actually done any reading about Darksend and show you how it works:

http://blog.anonymousbitcoinbook.com/2014/08/visualizing-one-round-of-darkcoins-darksend/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0

Here's an example transaction:

http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/6f52d97497c6f6ff2d866de53a1dcd8b3d3b74c8feb16e2e91624fda0985a917

So the gist is if you put 550DRK into the pool, it'll be broken down into 100DRK*5, 10DRK*5 and paired with the same denominations from another user. So after that transaction, no one can tell who is paying for what.

It's also very low bloat compared to monero /bytecoin because it only happens when it's needed. The whole blockchain is 346MB right now. Monero is not even close to as old and already is many times that size.

[KryptoFoo]

Man it's so refreshing to hear Evan's voice in here!!!

[solo20]

so what updates have there been

[KryptoFoo]

Bump up the jam, bump it up, yo bump it

Unphased by the poor market response to RC4, the darkcoin development team has been chugging away. Their hard work will soon be culminating in a number of positive events all within a short time frame. Market sentiment on darkcoin should swing positive as media coverage picks up on all the action. Furthermore there is a good chance to sustain the higher prices: considering #3 and #7, we will soon have a community of brilliant developers able to take the weight off of Evan's shoulders and accelerate progress on future development plans. And there are indeed a lot of good ideas for darkcoin's future.

Darkcoin's September Perfect Storm?

1. RC4 Selloff
 

Market sentiment is overtly negative after the huge selloff corresponding with a perceived "troubled" release of RC4.

2. RC5

We'll start RC5 testing soon.

3. Open sourcing

I'm open sourcing it in a couple weeks

4. Darkcoin Foundation

We'll be releasing much more detailed information with RC5

5. Enforcement

I have a separate plan I've been considering as an alternative that carries no risk and can be done at RC5's launch

6. Trusted Peer Review & 3rd party whitepaper

Kristov says he is finishing writing up his view on DRK.

7. Future development plans

One of the future goals is to turn the masternode network into a decentralized business for masternode operators. To do this we’ll add features that improve the privacy of end users and compete with centralized businesses. Our first endeavor into this is to make a completely private tor network within Darkcoin.

[PoS]

Whats up with the volume, is the coin dying?
Halcyon has got more volume these days.

[nsimmons]

So the guy who sold celeb photos for bitcoin, he should really have used darkcoin...

Why? Bitcoin is as secure as Darkcoin, if he wanted real anonymity he would have used Monero.

I can't imagine someone with your amount of history would be so ill informed? Darkcoin is quite anonymous. Have you even read how it works? It's my own implementation of coinjoin that is much more anonymous than anything offered on the bitcoin network, plus it's not vulnerable to any of the coinjoin attacks (coinjoin sudoku). It's decentralized, secure, timing-attack resistant and it works on mainnet, right now.

I'm going to just guess that you haven't actually done any reading about Darksend and show you how it works:

http://blog.anonymousbitcoinbook.com/2014/08/visualizing-one-round-of-darkcoins-darksend/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0

Here's an example transaction:

http://test.explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/6f52d97497c6f6ff2d866de53a1dcd8b3d3b74c8feb16e2e91624fda0985a917

So the gist is if you put 550DRK into the pool, it'll be broken down into 100DRK*5, 10DRK*5 and paired with the same denominations from another user. So after that transaction, no one can tell who is paying for what.

It's also very low bloat compared to monero /bytecoin because it only happens when it's needed. The whole blockchain is 346MB right now. Monero is not even close to as old and already is many times that size.

Evan dealing with trolls