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[splawik21]

Can somebody please post a screenshot of RC5 'Overview' tab?

I want to propose a big improvement to the current behavior that fixes a big flaw in the current user interface, but I require a screenshot of this tab in RC5 wallet  to be able to do this. I'm not sure how to run RC5 test wallet myself since the link to it is not a .exe file.

flare post executables as well .. go test RC5 .. i dare you hell .. i dare you all !!

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/sticky-testnet-tools-resources.1768/

coinz3x it is easy really, if I can do it everybody can

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[coins101]

Join RC5 TESTING over at the official forum

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/

And not a bump was given that day...

I was wondering who was going to bump first...

[conf]

http://www.coindesk.com/paypal-video-sparks-rumors-potential-bitcoin-plans/

[roede94105]

http://www.coindesk.com/paypal-video-sparks-rumors-potential-bitcoin-plans/

Not a rumor anymore, Braintree and Coinbase just announced their partnership, and said it's just the first step towards a Paypal integration.

Here's the tweet from paypal for funnies: https://twitter.com/PayPal/status/509053601541787648

[tombtc]

What a great news about paypal and btc. The price is skyrocketing!!!

[coins101]

What a great news about paypal and btc. The price is skyrocketing!!!

That is great news, actually.

More people will get banned for using BTC on gaming sites etc. I love traffic analysis. 

We get a bump in prices, everyone finds out there are problems further down the line, and DRK benefits. Win-Win.

[coinzcoinzcoinz]

Evan Duffield,
I want to point out some flaws in the user flows of Darkcoin RC5 client. Please note that I work with user interfaces on a daily basis.

Current:
1) User can enable or disable anonimization, disabled by default.
2) If enabled, every time you start the client, it starts anomimizing any non-anonimized funds automatically.

Issues with Current:
1) It takes some effort to figure out how to enable anonimzation (Darksend). It's quite hidden.
2) When enabled, the client simply starts anonimizing all your funds automatically, without user request. To me, as a user, this feels very intrusive. What if I started the client to quickly check my funds, not to have my funds anonimized. The task is to start the client, not to start the client and anonimize funds at the same time. This is a very poor user experience. Usually in user flow design, flows are split per task type. In Darkcoin, tasks that are totally different are merged as one. Things even become worse if my wallet has a password: I get the password prompt shortly after enabling the client. My first reaction is, why the hell does the password prompt show, I didn't do anything? It looks like a bug. At the very least, the password prompt should explain why it is showing automatically.

Proposed:
The anonimization process absolutely needs to be user initiated, it should never happen automatically (although there could be advanced options for that). I'd like to compare the Darkcoin client to virus scanning software, since I feel that both software types share similarities in terms of task architecture.

Does virus scanning software start scanning your computer once you start the virus scanner? No, it doesn't. Why not? Because that would be intrusive. The user requests to start the program, not to perform any type of action in addition. Instead, virus scanning software simply has a big green 'Quick Scan' button in their home screen. The Darkcoin client should have the equivalent of this: A big green 'Anonimize Funds' button (do not call it "Darksend" please as this name is misleading). Clicking it would start the anonimizing process. If your wallet has a password, then you would see a prompt at this stage to enter your password. 'Anonimize Funds' button would be disabled if all your funds have already been anonimized.

Evan Duffield, can I get your opinion on this? I feel this would be a considerable improvement to RC5 as current implementation is very likely to scare off new users since the anonimization user flow is far from optimal at the moment..

[zombie6]

Evan Duffield,
I want to point out some flaws in the user flows of Darkcoin RC5 client. Please note that I work with user interfaces on a daily basis.

Current:
1) User can enable or disable anonimization, disabled by default.
2) If enabled, every time you start the client, it starts anomimizing any non-anonimized funds automatically.

Issues with Current:
1) It takes some effort to figure out how to enable anonimzation (Darksend). It's quite hidden.
2) When enabled, the client simply starts anonimizing all your funds automatically, without user request. To me, as a user, this feels very intrusive. What if I started the client to quickly check my funds, not to have my funds anonimized. The task is to start the client, not to start the client and anonimize funds at the same time. This is a very poor user experience. Usually in user flow design, flows are split per task type. In Darkcoin, tasks that are totally different are merged as one. Things even become worse if my wallet has a password: I get the password prompt shortly after enabling the client. My first reaction is, why the hell does the password prompt show, I didn't do anything? It looks like a bug. At the very least, the password prompt should explain why it is showing automatically.

Proposed:
The anonimization process absolutely needs to be user initiated, it should never happen automatically (although there could be advanced options for that). I'd like to compare the Darkcoin client to virus scanning software, since I feel that both software types share similarities in terms of task architecture.

Does virus scanning software start scanning your computer once you start the virus scanner? No, it doesn't. Why not? Because that would be intrusive. The user requests to start the program, not to perform any type of action in addition. Instead, virus scanning software simply has a big green 'Quick Scan' button in their home screen. The Darkcoin client should have the equivalent of this: A big green 'Anonimize Funds' button (do not call it "Darksend" please as this name is misleading). Clicking it would start the anonimizing process. If your wallet has a password, then you would see a prompt at this stage to enter your password. 'Anonimize Funds' button would be disabled if all your funds have already been anonimized.

Evan Duffield, can I get your opinion on this? I feel this would be a considerable improvement to RC5 as current implementation is very likely to scare off new users since the anonimization user flow is far from optimal at the moment..

interesting opinion coinzx3 maybe good to also post this on darkcointalk?

[patrolman]

Evan Duffield,
I want to point out some flaws in the user flows of Darkcoin RC5 client. Please note that I work with user interfaces on a daily basis.

Current:
1) User can enable or disable anonimization, disabled by default.
2) If enabled, every time you start the client, it starts anomimizing any non-anonimized funds automatically.

Issues with Current:
1) It takes some effort to figure out how to enable anonimzation (Darksend). It's quite hidden.
2) When enabled, the client simply starts anonimizing all your funds automatically, without user request. To me, as a user, this feels very intrusive. What if I started the client to quickly check my funds, not to have my funds anonimized. The task is to start the client, not to start the client and anonimize funds at the same time. This is a very poor user experience. Usually in user flow design, flows are split per task type. In Darkcoin, tasks that are totally different are merged as one. Things even become worse if my wallet has a password: I get the password prompt shortly after enabling the client. My first reaction is, why the hell does the password prompt show, I didn't do anything? It looks like a bug. At the very least, the password prompt should explain why it is showing automatically.

Proposed:
The anonimization process absolutely needs to be user initiated, it should never happen automatically (although there could be advanced options for that). I'd like to compare the Darkcoin client to virus scanning software, since I feel that both software types share similarities in terms of task architecture.

Does virus scanning software start scanning your computer once you start the virus scanner? No, it doesn't. Why not? Because that would be intrusive. The user requests to start the program, not to perform any type of action in addition. Instead, virus scanning software simply has a big green 'Quick Scan' button in their home screen. The Darkcoin client should have the equivalent of this: A big green 'Anonimize Funds' button (do not call it "Darksend" please as this name is misleading). Clicking it would start the anonimizing process. If your wallet has a password, then you would see a prompt at this stage to enter your password. 'Anonimize Funds' button would be disabled if all your funds have already been anonimized.

Evan Duffield, can I get your opinion on this? I feel this would be a considerable improvement to RC5 as current implementation is very likely to scare off new users since the anonimization user flow is far from optimal at the moment..

I think you've raised some really good points. Giving the user more control is generally a good thing, unless things become too complicated. I suppose it could be possible to have a "Don't ask me again" checkbox for those who are annoyed by the popup message every time they start up the client, but other than that I think that what you've suggested would make it very clear to the user exactly what is going on.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Evan Duffield,
I want to point out some flaws in the user flows of Darkcoin RC5 client. Please note that I work with user interfaces on a daily basis.

Current:
1) User can enable or disable anonimization, disabled by default.
2) If enabled, every time you start the client, it starts anomimizing any non-anonimized funds automatically.

Issues with Current:
1) It takes some effort to figure out how to enable anonimzation (Darksend). It's quite hidden.
2) When enabled, the client simply starts anonimizing all your funds automatically, without user request. To me, as a user, this feels very intrusive. What if I started the client to quickly check my funds, not to have my funds anonimized. The task is to start the client, not to start the client and anonimize funds at the same time. This is a very poor user experience. Usually in user flow design, flows are split per task type. In Darkcoin, tasks that are totally different are merged as one. Things even become worse if my wallet has a password: I get the password prompt shortly after enabling the client. My first reaction is, why the hell does the password prompt show, I didn't do anything? It looks like a bug. At the very least, the password prompt should explain why it is showing automatically.

Proposed:
The anonimization process absolutely needs to be user initiated, it should never happen automatically (although there could be advanced options for that). I'd like to compare the Darkcoin client to virus scanning software, since I feel that both software types share similarities in terms of task architecture.

Does virus scanning software start scanning your computer once you start the virus scanner? No, it doesn't. Why not? Because that would be intrusive. The user requests to start the program, not to perform any type of action in addition. Instead, virus scanning software simply has a big green 'Quick Scan' button in their home screen. The Darkcoin client should have the equivalent of this: A big green 'Anonimize Funds' button (do not call it "Darksend" please as this name is misleading). Clicking it would start the anonimizing process. If your wallet has a password, then you would see a prompt at this stage to enter your password. 'Anonimize Funds' button would be disabled if all your funds have already been anonimized.

Evan Duffield, can I get your opinion on this? I feel this would be a considerable improvement to RC5 as current implementation is very likely to scare off new users since the anonimization user flow is far from optimal at the moment..

I think you've raised some really good points. Giving the user more control is generally a good thing, unless things become too complicated. I suppose it could be possible to have a "Don't ask me again" checkbox for those who are annoyed by the popup message every time they start up the client, but other than that I think that what you've suggested would make it very clear to the user exactly what is going on.

I have made a proposal on jira about this subject, asking for the optional feature of an estimated transaction fee in addition to the prompt for anonymization😃:

http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-59

Tao

[coins101]

Join RC5 TESTING over at the official forum

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/

And not a bump was given that day...

Report any desired features after testing....

Just in case: testing is free - you can get thousands and thousands of tDRKs. Maybe you can try to figure out a way to send those tDRKs to your real wallet....

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Join RC5 TESTING over at the official forum

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/

And not a bump was given that day...

Report any desired features after testing....

Just in case: testing is free - you can get thousands and thousands of tDRKs. Maybe you can try to figure out a way to send those tDRKs to your real wallet....

One can only dream....

Tao

[Minotaur26]

Testing seems to be going very well, and its a lot of fun. A lot of activity and bug squashing on Jira. It looks like we should have a new improved testnet version 4 soon. Looking forward to testing the new testnet wallet when it comes out.

Join testing, you will only grow more confident about handling Darksend+, that way when we go to mainnet you will be very familiar with the process.  All you need is a darkcoin.conf file that says testnet=1 on it and thats it, when it starts it starts with an orange splash screen as opposed to the normal blue one and it says testnet in big letters no way to get confused.

[Rux]

after paypal announcement btc will mos def rise... will that impact drk price atm ?

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Testing seems to be going very well, and its a lot of fun. A lot of activity and bug squashing on Jira. It looks like we should have a new improved testnet version 4 soon. Looking forward to testing the new testnet wallet when it comes out.

Join testing, you will only grow more confident about handling Darksend+, that way when we go to mainnet you will be very familiar with the process.  All you need is a darkcoin.conf file that says testnet=1 on it and thats it, when it starts it starts with an orange splash screen as opposed to the normal blue one and it says testnet in big letters no way to get confused.

I just checked jira, bugs are dropping like flies, I am very excited for the release of v4. We are close, come to testnet, help out, it's easy, you'll be glad you did!

DRK FTW!!

Tao

[qwizzie]

Evan Duffield,
I want to point out some flaws in the user flows of Darkcoin RC5 client. Please note that I work with user interfaces on a daily basis.

Current:
1) User can enable or disable anonimization, disabled by default.
2) If enabled, every time you start the client, it starts anomimizing any non-anonimized funds automatically.

Issues with Current:
1) It takes some effort to figure out how to enable anonimzation (Darksend). It's quite hidden.
2) When enabled, the client simply starts anonimizing all your funds automatically, without user request. To me, as a user, this feels very intrusive. What if I started the client to quickly check my funds, not to have my funds anonimized. The task is to start the client, not to start the client and anonimize funds at the same time. This is a very poor user experience. Usually in user flow design, flows are split per task type. In Darkcoin, tasks that are totally different are merged as one. Things even become worse if my wallet has a password: I get the password prompt shortly after enabling the client. My first reaction is, why the hell does the password prompt show, I didn't do anything? It looks like a bug. At the very least, the password prompt should explain why it is showing automatically.

Proposed:
The anonimization process absolutely needs to be user initiated, it should never happen automatically (although there could be advanced options for that). I'd like to compare the Darkcoin client to virus scanning software, since I feel that both software types share similarities in terms of task architecture.

Does virus scanning software start scanning your computer once you start the virus scanner? No, it doesn't. Why not? Because that would be intrusive. The user requests to start the program, not to perform any type of action in addition. Instead, virus scanning software simply has a big green 'Quick Scan' button in their home screen. The Darkcoin client should have the equivalent of this: A big green 'Anonimize Funds' button (do not call it "Darksend" please as this name is misleading). Clicking it would start the anonimizing process. If your wallet has a password, then you would see a prompt at this stage to enter your password. 'Anonimize Funds' button would be disabled if all your funds have already been anonimized.

Evan Duffield, can I get your opinion on this? I feel this would be a considerable improvement to RC5 as current implementation is very likely to scare off new users since the anonimization user flow is far from optimal at the moment..

you have some good points there but i'm not totally sure these kind of changes you request wouldnt fall under the Enhanced Darkcoin Wallet UI project of DRKLord (https://darkcointalk.org/threads/enhanced-darkcoin-wallet-ui.1705/page-14).

Unfortunetely DRKlord got very ill and this project got postponed. They are now looking for a Qt/C++ frontend developer/GUI designer to get the project going again --> http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/2fp0ey/qtc_frontend_developergui_designer/
  
If we can find a good Qt/C++ frontend developer/GUI designer to continue with this project then maybe yr concerns / requests will be resolved automatically.

edit 1: and yes, i'm also taking this opportunity by replying to yr post to emphasize and inform everyone that there is still a need for a good Qt/C++ frontend developer/GUI designer

edit 2 : never mind... looks like Evan can do a lot more with the GUI aspect of wallets then i first thought

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

after paypal announcement btc will mos def rise... will that impact drk price atm ?

Typical. Great news for BTC, BTC down 2% for the day!

#whatisthisIdonteven

Tao

[oly1]

Is it possible to run tMN in a virtual machine (wallet and deamon on same machine)? If yes, please explain how to start it in simple steps.
I'm asking here because can't write on rc5 test threat

[drkwarrior]

so paypal decides to add btc....maybe because it has seen the threat that crypto only open baazar would pose.

i remember it was around this time last year baidu announced they would accept btc, btc got pumped and in the process so did ltc. This time i predict btc will be pumped but instead of ltc it will be drk that goes over $50

[toknormal]

Bitcoin appears to be approaching another "adoption growth" moment - Winklevoss ETF ("COIN") and Paypal.