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[kyma]

so there's gotta be a way to see how many anonymized coins vs non-anon coins you have right? this wallet needs a coincontrol feature or something

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[wozzek23]

Along the same lines I would like to get a cycling jersey made with a Darkcoin logo.

I've just "created" and ordered two T-shirts with the logo"
http://www.customink.com/designs/drk2/jpx0-0014-n0wp/hotlink?pc=HL-76684&cm_mmc=hotlink-_-4-_-Body_txt-_-button1

Perhaps you could find your jersey with them http://www.customink.com/categories/athletics/44/styles

[oaxaca]

Sorry to interrupt all this price talk, but I would like to buy a sweet Darkcoin sticker for my snowboard. Any ideas?

If you know where you can get some made up, there are some promo graphics here: https://www.darkcoin.io/resources/promotional-graphics/

Actually have a list of items the I'm reviewing.

Would like to put together a DRK Kit

t-shirt
sticker(s)
.
.
.
various items...... :-o

If anybody is making stickers, put me down for a roll.  I'm organizing the "Monday March" in my area http://mondaymarches.org/ and I need to put DRK on these www.ebay.com/itm/181550498466

[jiggytom]

so there's gotta be a way to see how many anonymized coins vs non-anon coins you have right? this wallet needs a coincontrol feature or something

That's what Darksend balance is..those are the anonymized coins.  And there is also coincontrol when you send...just click "Inputs".

[eduffield]

i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:

a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch
b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not
c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not
d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities


but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass

I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all.

[splawik21]

i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:

a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch
b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not
c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not
d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities


but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass

I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all.

Evan I said that before, I love you men

[jiggytom]

i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:

a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch
b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not
c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not
d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities


but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass

I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all.

awesome work, +1.  If you can spare anymore information to ease up everyone...please do! Setup a masternode today, btw..feels empowering!

[stealth923]

i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:

a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch
b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not
c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not
d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities


but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass

I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all.

lol I bet you must dream code in your sleep - wake up and just type it all out without thinking....

awesome work mate - again this is how open sourcing makes things bulletproof in the long run!

[oblox]

i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:

a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch
b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not
c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not
d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities


but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass

I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all.

With no need to hard fork or risk to the patch, why not roll to mainnet? Just curious.

[toknormal]

Evan I said that before, I love you men

So Evan succeeded in cloning himself to boost productivity or your just using a John Wayne accent for extra effect ?

[BrainShutdown]

i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:

a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch
b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not
c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not
d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities


but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass

I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all.

With no need to hard fork or risk to the patch, why not roll to mainnet? Just curious.

Basic debug / proof of concept I imagine 

[Kai Proctor]

i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:

a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch
b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not
c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not
d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities


but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass

I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all.

With no need to hard fork or risk to the patch, why not roll to mainnet? Just curious.

It would be risky to put anything live on a mainnet without further tests. Better safe than sorry, that's IMO a very good procedure.

[toknormal]

************** Trading Alert ******************

The just announced news that Darkcoin labs have further locked up transaction traceability air tight by addressing minor issues with fees has invoked an immediate reaction in markets.

Engines are firing up and jostling for position in the order book is evident just as the third successive 5-minute wave was starting to poke through to the upside. Now indicating a firm retracement, the 15-minute is perfectly placed to plant its first green candle for a couple of hours just as we see a clear thickening of bidstck liquidity.

Within 5 minutes flat, bid to ask ratio has gone to a whopping 600% and if we flip out to the 1-hour chart, the flatlining that has characterised this evening's trading has already given way to a clear crossover back to the upside consistent with it's shorter subordinates.

[coins101]

Evan I said that before, I love you men

So Evan succeeded in cloning himself to boost productivity or your just using a John Wayne accent for extra effect ?

Whooooooooooooooosh

[wozzek23]

If you get them interested enough that they will install wallets, post their addys and I'll send a few coins to get them started.

First comment from "my genius" after he has spent an hour or so looking over all that stuff:

"I find a blog that is useful:
http://www.righto.com/2014/02/bitcoin-mining-hard-way-algorithms.html
Note that finding a successful hash is an entirely arbitrary task that doesn't accomplish anything useful in itself. The only purpose of finding a small hash is to make mining difficult, which is fundamental to Bitcoin security. It seems to me that the effort put into Bitcoin mining has gone off the rails recently.

 
Further note that the result of all of this work is a 256 bit number. DUH. There are ton of ways to create an essentially random (and scarce) 256 bit number. Scarcity is really the main property here. I do not believe in my mind of minds (heart of hearts) that scarcity is that hard either. All of this makes me think that the core mining thing in Bitcoin is just wrong.
 
But I suspect that mining bitcoins is a dying industry, which may well have been Satoshi ́s intention. Get a finite stock of Bitcoins out there then go ahead with scarcity established.
 
All of this rant because I woke in the night with an alternative to mining. Let the coins be kicked out of routers ( the things that tell packets that make up the lower levels of the data transmission under the Internet where to go) as a by product of doing useful work. So every router on the Internet becomes a source of coins. essentially his would ba commodity based currency with the commodity being packets. <or something like that. The amount of currency would scale with the number of packets flowing. This is appropriate scarcity, not the arbitrary scarcity of the bitcoin or gold.
 
I do not know if this makes sense or not, but it might. Needless to say,, as you have heard me speculate before, I prefer commodity based currencies (cryto anonymous currencies but commodity based.) Packets are the beans and rice of modern communications systems.
 
I do like and appreciate what Darkcoin is doing in the layers they are building on the Bitcoin though and will dig deeper."


While I have no clue what is he talking about, I will let you know what he has to offer, if anything, after he has, well, dug deeper

[oblox]

i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:

a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch
b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not
c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not
d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities


but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass

I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all.

With no need to hard fork or risk to the patch, why not roll to mainnet? Just curious.

It would be risky to put anything live on a mainnet without further tests. Better safe than sorry, that's IMO a very good procedure.

I agree, just the wording made it sound like there is no risk at all behind implementation.

Wonder what solution was chosen.

[wozzek23]

My designs :-)

Nice. How did you manage to have your address graph be big enough? I still have time to change the back of my shirt

[Libertario]

If Darkwallet have succes why people choose Darkcoin?
Thanks

Darkcoin

1. Exists
2. Works
3. Isn't a fucking browser plugin talking to a centralised server that you have to trust with your money and your liberty



I think that covers the basics.

Ok.
Chrome and Firefox have a centralised server?
Exists now a decentralised browser?
Thanks for answers.

[Libertario]

If Darkwallet have succes why people choose Darkcoin?
Thanks

Darkwallet is still bound by BTC's confirms and wasn't built to be anonymous from the start. Granted, you could argue with the current issue that DRK is facing, neither are we, but we were designed from the start to be an anonymous currency. With BTC's confirms, DRK would have InstantX. Further, the masternode network still hasn't been tapped as to what kinds of services can be built on top of it. You can actually earn revenue from running a masternode, something you won't be able to do with Darkwallet or BTC for that matter. Finally, Darkwallet still remains a centralized, browser based platform, not something I am willing to risk money with.

Ok.
Chrome and Firefox have a centralised server?
Exists now a decentralised browser?
Thanks for answers.

[thelonecrouton]

If you get them interested enough that they will install wallets, post their addys and I'll send a few coins to get them started.

First comment from "my genius" after he has spent an hour or so looking over all that stuff:

"I find a blog that is useful:
http://www.righto.com/2014/02/bitcoin-mining-hard-way-algorithms.html
Note that finding a successful hash is an entirely arbitrary task that doesn't accomplish anything useful in itself. The only purpose of finding a small hash is to make mining difficult, which is fundamental to Bitcoin security. It seems to me that the effort put into Bitcoin mining has gone off the rails recently.

 
Further note that the result of all of this work is a 256 bit number. DUH. There are ton of ways to create an essentially random (and scarce) 256 bit number. Scarcity is really the main property here. I do not believe in my mind of minds (heart of hearts) that scarcity is that hard either. All of this makes me think that the core mining thing in Bitcoin is just wrong.
 
But I suspect that mining bitcoins is a dying industry, which may well have been Satoshi ́s intention. Get a finite stock of Bitcoins out there then go ahead with scarcity established.
 
All of this rant because I woke in the night with an alternative to mining. Let the coins be kicked out of routers ( the things that tell packets that make up the lower levels of the data transmission under the Internet where to go) as a by product of doing useful work. So every router on the Internet becomes a source of coins. essentially his would ba commodity based currency with the commodity being packets. <or something like that. The amount of currency would scale with the number of packets flowing. This is appropriate scarcity, not the arbitrary scarcity of the bitcoin or gold.
 
I do not know if this makes sense or not, but it might. Needless to say,, as you have heard me speculate before, I prefer commodity based currencies (cryto anonymous currencies but commodity based.) Packets are the beans and rice of modern communications systems.
 
I do like and appreciate what Darkcoin is doing in the layers they are building on the Bitcoin though and will dig deeper."


While I have no clue what is he talking about, I will let you know what he has to offer, if anything, after he has, well, dug deeper

He's not the first to suggest that mining could actually be made useful...

Gold isn't arbitrarily scarce though... maybe he was thinking about diamonds, which are as common as muck?