[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[FrictionlessCoin]

So how much longer would it take to create a new coin from scratch, vs doing it base on the NXT code?

(Not a big question on my part, I'm just trying to get some discussion going on.)

NEX, which as far as I can tell, is creating a coin that is basically a clone of NXT is launching in early March:

Is there any expected schedule for NEX?

In 4 weeks.  Developers are busy working on the code right now.

NEM doesn't currently have a release schedule, but won't be launching in early march .

Correction,  NEX isn't going to even bother cloning NXT.  NXT isn't really a good base to build a foundation on.   

That's why the NEM guys are building from scratch too.   Once you see the dirty laundry, you want to avoid it for good.

[utopianfuture]

So how much longer would it take to create a new coin from scratch, vs doing it base on the NXT code?

(Not a big question on my part, I'm just trying to get some discussion going on.)

NEX, which as far as I can tell, is creating a coin that is basically a clone of NXT is launching in early March:

Is there any expected schedule for NEX?

In 4 weeks.  Developers are busy working on the code right now.

NEM doesn't currently have a release schedule, but won't be launching in early march .

Correction,  NEX isn't going to even bother cloning NXT.  NXT isn't really a good base to build a foundation on.   

That's why the NEM guys are building from scratch too.   Once you see the dirty laundry, you want to avoid it for good.

NEM is so called "No Envy" for a reason. We don't bad-mouth other cryptos and that's is probably something FC could learn from. 

[utopianfuture]

more logos!

first of all: congratz man!
this shape is very well thought through & logical.
nor to symmetric neither to asymmetric.

and guys please..
good logos are always an abstraction.
its not possible to grant PERFECT readability (If you work with letters at all) and at the same time have a logo with an incisive shape you actually REMEMBER. right?

In other words you cannot have the cake and eat it.
And imo the Abstraction/Readability-ratio is pretty much as good as it gets. (And ive tried a while myself)
In my Impression most people, including myself, read NEM and not something else.
Once you read "NGI" it of course sticks with you.

But just think of the NXT-logo for example^^
You could read almost anything into it (eg. XXT), and people are still fine.
Because its a good logo, that people REMEMBER.
Logo critic should be balanced and not overlook this context.

Look distinctive. Very well done. Look like we have a logo front-runner

[gvans]

Look distinctive. Very well done. Look like we have a logo front-runner

Yeah I really like it too. Kind of hate to say it after spending a good couple of nights working on my last proposal but play4ce you really nailed it here with this retrofuturistic design.

[makoto1337]

more logos!

first of all: congratz man!
this shape is very well thought through & logical.
nor to symmetric neither to asymmetric.

and guys please..
good logos are always an abstraction.
its not possible to grant PERFECT readability (If you work with letters at all) and at the same time have a logo with an incisive shape you actually REMEMBER. right?

In other words you cannot have the cake and eat it.
And imo the Abstraction/Readability-ratio is pretty much as good as it gets. (And ive tried a while myself)
In my Impression most people, including myself, read NEM and not something else.
Once you read "NGI" it of course sticks with you.

But just think of the NXT-logo for example^^
You could read almost anything into it (eg. XXT), and people are still fine.
Because its a good logo, that people REMEMBER.
Logo critic should be balanced and not overlook this context.

Look distinctive. Very well done. Look like we have a logo front-runner

I agree. This is really amazing.

[utopianfuture]

Fundraising updates: As we are moving past page 70, I would like to announce a few updates going forward.

- Given the our targets in funding and the number of stakeholders, the fundraising will stop after page 90 of registration thread 2. After that there will be a public auditing of the stakeholder list based on the public information in the two registration threads including account names and transaction records. Every NEM stakeholders are invited to look at the records for mistakes and discrepancies; we will also apply the disclaimer "the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered" to refund big multi-accounters based on the taint analysis results. Details about this process will be published after the fundraising is over at page 90.    

- Details about the management of development stakes as well as development fund will also be published after page 90. There will be a refund period after this announcement so if you don't like the way funding for development is handled you can get a refund.

- Promotional stakes will be open again but to veteran accounts (open before the fundraising and has activity >20) only.

- An interesting statistics about our stakeholders' population will be published soon.

Thanks for supporting NEM. We will be a great community.

[makoto1337]

... if you don't like the way funding for development is handled you can get a refund.

If you go through all the pages of shitcoins, where have you ever seen anything like that? Even ethereum doesn't make a guarantee like that.

[utopianfuture]

... if you don't like the way funding for development is handled you can get a refund.

If you go through all the pages of shitcoins, where have you ever seen anything like that? Even ethereum doesn't make a guarantee like that.

That's why NEM is not ethreum To be fair, they have a more details on management side before they raise fund.

Or maybe I am not clear, the refund is only in a short period after the announcement.

[magdapani]

Fundraising updates: As we are moving past page 70, I would like to announce a few updates going forward.

- Given the our targets in funding and the number of stakeholders, the fundraising will stop after page 90 of registration thread 2. After that there will be a public auditing of the stakeholder list based on the public information in the two registration threads including account names and transaction records. Every NEM stakeholders are invited to look at the records for mistakes and discrepancies; we will also apply the disclaimer "the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered" to refund big multi-accounters based on the taint analysis results. Details about this process will be published after the fundraising is over at page 90.    

- Details about the management of development stakes as well as development fund will also be published after page 90. There will be a refund period after this announcement so if you don't like the way funding for development is handled you can get a refund.

- Promotional stakes will be open again but to veteran accounts (open before the fundraising and has activity >20) only.

- An interesting statistics about our stakeholders' population will be published soon.

Thanks for supporting NEM. We will be a great community.

Sounds great. Looking forward to it all.

[niceli]

more logos!

first of all: congratz man!
this shape is very well thought through & logical.
nor to symmetric neither to asymmetric.

and guys please..
good logos are always an abstraction.
its not possible to grant PERFECT readability (If you work with letters at all) and at the same time have a logo with an incisive shape you actually REMEMBER. right?

In other words you cannot have the cake and eat it.
And imo the Abstraction/Readability-ratio is pretty much as good as it gets. (And ive tried a while myself)
In my Impression most people, including myself, read NEM and not something else.
Once you read "NGI" it of course sticks with you.

But just think of the NXT-logo for example^^
You could read almost anything into it (eg. XXT), and people are still fine.
Because its a good logo, that people REMEMBER.
Logo critic should be balanced and not overlook this context.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion - and personally I dont like this one. It just doesn't look NEM to me at all and it is quite bland, there is no distinctive look about it either.

There are other designs in the portfolio which deliver those considerations in a much better way for my personal taste.

I wonder how long people can send in proposals before there will be an official poll? Thinking about asking a friend who is a very experienced web designer if she could create a proposal as well.

btw, I saw that there are several bounties for logo design. Will you only give one to the winner of the poll or also to the follow ups? If you look at the proposals posted in this thread you see that some people spent a lot of time on their designs and the refinements. Would just be fair to also hand out some smaller bounties to them too imo.

[patmast3r]

Fundraising updates: As we are moving past page 70, I would like to announce a few updates going forward.

- Given the our targets in funding and the number of stakeholders, the fundraising will stop after page 90 of registration thread 2. After that there will be a public auditing of the stakeholder list based on the public information in the two registration threads including account names and transaction records. Every NEM stakeholders are invited to look at the records for mistakes and discrepancies; we will also apply the disclaimer "the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered" to refund big multi-accounters based on the taint analysis results. Details about this process will be published after the fundraising is over at page 90.    

- Details about the management of development stakes as well as development fund will also be published after page 90. There will be a refund period after this announcement so if you don't like the way funding for development is handled you can get a refund.

- Promotional stakes will be open again but to veteran accounts (open before the fundraising and has activity >20) only.

- An interesting statistics about our stakeholders' population will be published soon.

Thanks for supporting NEM. We will be a great community.

Cool. Maybe I'll finally get my development stakes back for creating a logo and managing the Twitter.

I'd think you only get a dev stake if your logo is actually going to be chosen to be our official logo but that's just a guess.
Also - We have an official twitter account ?

[play4ce]

Feel free to use & modify:


http://imageshack.com/a/img401/7977/ak32.png http://imageshack.com/a/img199/8999/fjn9.png http://imageshack.com/a/img577/8095/7706.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img690/11/bls9.png http://imageshack.com/a/img843/7276/vfmi.png http://imageshack.com/a/img801/7083/hyl5.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img836/8999/fjn9.png http://imageshack.com/a/img534/3862/i349.png http://imageshack.com/a/img843/857/0m6u.png


http://imageshack.com/a/img822/908/kayw.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img856/725/r2q6.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img849/5063/edss.png



& have a great day

[gvans]

I'd think you only get a dev stake if your logo is actually going to be chosen to be our official logo but that's just a guess.
Also - We have an official twitter account ?

It seems there are 6 stakes for 6 most popular designs afaik.
https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=660&sid=785e20033523767513f305f819a9e1e0#p3099

[abuelau]

Fundraising updates: As we are moving past page 70, I would like to announce a few updates going forward.

- Given the our targets in funding and the number of stakeholders, the fundraising will stop after page 90 of registration thread 2. After that there will be a public auditing of the stakeholder list based on the public information in the two registration threads including account names and transaction records. Every NEM stakeholders are invited to look at the records for mistakes and discrepancies; we will also apply the disclaimer "the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered" to refund big multi-accounters based on the taint analysis results. Details about this process will be published after the fundraising is over at page 90.    

- Details about the management of development stakes as well as development fund will also be published after page 90. There will be a refund period after this announcement so if you don't like the way funding for development is handled you can get a refund.

- Promotional stakes will be open again but to veteran accounts (open before the fundraising and has activity >20) only.

- An interesting statistics about our stakeholders' population will be published soon.

Thanks for supporting NEM. We will be a great community.

Very nice UP! This is looking very promising.

 

[zoata87]

i sold some btc to my friends to invest here, thats no secret. all of them have their own wallet, so i dont think that should be a problem. do u think its ok to buy 2 stakes?

[gvans]

Feel free to use & modify:

could not resist 

[Istanbul34]

Hi UtopianFuture!

I want to make a translation of NEM in the Turkish section of BTT if it is possible.
Can I join the stakeholders list with that?

Thanks!

[therealbigcoin]

Feel free to use & modify:

could not resist 

Yeah i like that some Ideas for improovement:

Get some "coin infrastrukture" on this world like this:



any maybe put the nem text in some blue/green dessign ^^

Greetings

[play4ce]

Feel free to use & modify:

could not resist  

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18301977/nem-gvans-play4ce130pix.gif

yeah, I really like that one!!

it says:
"NEM GONNA RULE DA WORLD!!!" xDD

[TauMuon]

Can I suggest an alternative ad title?

New Economy Movement (NEM): Next-Generation Cryptocurrency | Built from the Ground up with New Code | Radically Improved over Bitcoin

I think this will be especially relevant now the fundraiser is almost over.

Here's how it looks in reddit: