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May 26, 2014, 02:47:26 AM
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I do noticed a slight upswing in dissent compared to prior months.  Which seems to be irrational as there are currently more updates and content data releases in the past 30 days than in the past months altogether.  I do agree with the statement that, if you bringing negativity, then you are not forced to be here and should surrender your stake so someone else may become a positive participant.

That's not me being a shill but if you're being a 'tard, then you should be a 'tard on someone else's thread (not here) - others who had missed out on being participants would like to come in.

I theorize the dissent may be a reaction the recent (slight) upswing in BTC value.  Months ago Bitcoin was rather stagnating, but now Bitcoin looks like it might be poised to rebound or even leap past its' old capitalization record, and some stakeholders are afraid NEM may miss out on that.  


There is a degree of impatience and emotional exaggeration, I accept, when considering these stakes were reserved for variable amounts less than .10 BTC - I cannot rationalize how one can truly be 'upset' when effectively they were able to reserve a stake, with the equivalent of lunch money, which will in an immediate timeframe after launch will likely worth several thousand and long term, perhaps, even millions.

There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution.  The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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May 26, 2014, 02:53:04 AM
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I do noticed a slight upswing in dissent compared to prior months.  Which seems to be irrational as there are currently more updates and content data releases in the past 30 days than in the past months altogether.  I do agree with the statement that, if you bringing negativity, then you are not forced to be here and should surrender your stake so someone else may become a positive participant.

That's not me being a shill but if you're being a 'tard, then you should be a 'tard on someone else's thread (not here) - others who had missed out on being participants would like to come in.

I theorize the dissent may be a reaction the recent (slight) upswing in BTC value.  Months ago Bitcoin was rather stagnating, but now Bitcoin looks like it might be poised to rebound or even leap past its' old capitalization record, and some stakeholders are afraid NEM may miss out on that.  


There is a degree of impatience and emotional exaggeration, I accept, when considering these stakes were reserved for variable amounts less than .10 BTC - I cannot rationalize how one can truly be 'upset' when effectively they were able to reserve a stake, for the equivalent of lunch money, which will in an immediate timeframe after launch will likely worth several thousand and long term, perhaps, even millions.


QFT - NEM is going to have it's fair share of dumpers, no doubt. However, given it's already rather large distribution, dumps will not be (easily) coordinated, and prices will be much harder to manipulate - at least at first.

Depending on who buys up NEM in any large quantity will likely determine it's future manipulation later down the road.

I like NEM, alot, primarily due to it's dedicated and transparent devs, and also it's IPO. I think it'll have a good future ahead of it. My only gripe is that ideally, stakes should've been distributed in increments over a set period of time, to discourage dumps/manipulation further.
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May 26, 2014, 03:03:36 AM
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I do noticed a slight upswing in dissent compared to prior months.  Which seems to be irrational as there are currently more updates and content data releases in the past 30 days than in the past months altogether.  I do agree with the statement that, if you bringing negativity, then you are not forced to be here and should surrender your stake so someone else may become a positive participant.

That's not me being a shill but if you're being a 'tard, then you should be a 'tard on someone else's thread (not here) - others who had missed out on being participants would like to come in.

I theorize the dissent may be a reaction the recent (slight) upswing in BTC value.  Months ago Bitcoin was rather stagnating, but now Bitcoin looks like it might be poised to rebound or even leap past its' old capitalization record, and some stakeholders are afraid NEM may miss out on that.  


There is a degree of impatience and emotional exaggeration, I accept, when considering these stakes were reserved for variable amounts less than .10 BTC - I cannot rationalize how one can truly be 'upset' when effectively they were able to reserve a stake, with the equivalent of lunch money, which will in an immediate timeframe after launch will likely worth several thousand and long term, perhaps, even millions.


The dissent is probably from kicking out sockpuppets.

                
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May 26, 2014, 03:12:37 AM
 #7984

I do noticed a slight upswing in dissent compared to prior months.  Which seems to be irrational as there are currently more updates and content data releases in the past 30 days than in the past months altogether.  I do agree with the statement that, if you bringing negativity, then you are not forced to be here and should surrender your stake so someone else may become a positive participant.

That's not me being a shill but if you're being a 'tard, then you should be a 'tard on someone else's thread (not here) - others who had missed out on being participants would like to come in.

I theorize the dissent may be a reaction the recent (slight) upswing in BTC value.  Months ago Bitcoin was rather stagnating, but now Bitcoin looks like it might be poised to rebound or even leap past its' old capitalization record, and some stakeholders are afraid NEM may miss out on that.  


There is a degree of impatience and emotional exaggeration, I accept, when considering these stakes were reserved for variable amounts less than .10 BTC - I cannot rationalize how one can truly be 'upset' when effectively they were able to reserve a stake, for the equivalent of lunch money, which will in an immediate timeframe after launch will likely worth several thousand and long term, perhaps, even millions.


QFT - NEM is going to have it's fair share of dumpers, no doubt. However, given it's already rather large distribution, dumps will not be (easily) coordinated, and prices will be much harder to manipulate - at least at first.

Depending on who buys up NEM in any large quantity will likely determine it's future manipulation later down the road.

I like NEM, alot, primarily due to it's dedicated and transparent devs, and also it's IPO. I think it'll have a good future ahead of it. My only gripe is that ideally, stakes should've been distributed in increments over a set period of time, to discourage dumps/manipulation further.

Thanks. I agree with a lot of what you said. My view of the market has always been on the "utopian" side so I am somewhat oblivious to manipulation but regarding NEM I have to be careful. Nevertheless, not giving the full stack to the stakeholders seems like too much on the "centralized" side. Regarding asset exchange listing, do you think NEM will be easily manipulated if we do that ?


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May 26, 2014, 03:48:01 AM
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NEM Marketing Proposal

Here are some thoughts I have regarding NEM marketing side.

Marketing and human nature

The more we study human nature we seem to discover that man is not as rational as he thought. In fact, he is invariably guided by a combination of conscious, subconscious, emotions and biases which often leads to decisions that are at best irrational and at worst very damaging for individuals and society in general. In a utopian world, we would only have to build a great piece of technology and people would rush to adopt it immediately, simply because it would be in their best interest. In our world, however, it seems it has become increasingly hard for people to make sense of the world. Not only that, but even when people understand what’s wrong and what they need to do, they rarely have the power to act in accordance to what they think.

Here’s the point where good marketing comes in. There was a time when people believed they could solve big problems just by pointing the way toward a solution. As we can see now, the decision dynamics of humanity is a nearly impossibly complex mechanism that is rarely advancing in the right direction. So if we want to change something important for the better, we simply cannot leave things to randomness and inertia. The question then is, can we change the course of things, albeit in a small yet instrumental way? And if so, how?

Making it simple and sexy

I think the bitcoin story, though still at its very beginning, can offer some very useful and powerful lessons as to how this may be done, and indeed, confirm this is really possible. Indeed, consider that bitcoin has achieved the current status lacking both simplicity and sexyness. When those will be added(and I know a lot of people are working on that now) I think bitcoin will probably go to a whole other level.

In fact there may be an even better example from which one could learn some important things. Consider the story of Elon Musk, who is arguably one of the most important entrepreneurs/engineer/ inventor alive and apparently a billionaire genius.[1] As he understood where we are today and what are some of the most important problems/threats we could face in the future, he came up with some ideas and plans as to how this problems could be solved and threats could be transformed into powerful innovation for the benefit of humanity. One of the problems he figured is that auto industry was advancing in the wrong direction because of unsustainable production and consumption of energy(Pollution and climate damage with potentially destructive consequences for the long term and high consumption of relatively scarce resources). He also figured that arguably for the immediate future the solution would lay in electric cars. The biggest problem with electric cars was their perception. Who wants them?! They’re slow, ugly, unreliable, low range, boring and unsexy. So even if you would make an electric car, you could not beat people into buying it, nobody would. Or at least, nobody until they learned about Tesla Motors.[2] Elon musk figured that the most effective way to solve the problem would be to radically redefine the perception about electric cars by creating the first compelling electric car ever built that would capture the imagination of people. It should be better in almost every aspect than its gasoline competitors[3] but most important of all, the car should be sexy, irresistibly sexy. This is how the burden of psychological hard work has changed from the customer to the inventor.  An irresistibly sexy product has been created and all the customer needs to do is follow his basic instincts, passively catalyzing the solution for a very important problem in the process.

An antifragile solution

It seems the solutions offered until now are very fragile precisely because they are inherently dependent on a highly unstable variable, the human nature. But think for a second, what if we could engineer a meta-solution, one that could solve or isolate a much bigger problem which would in turn render us resilient or even better yet, antifragile to human nature?

How would that look in reality? Well, instead of asking of people to use their will power, self-discipline and invest a great deal of intellectual and psychological effort to fight a long war with the current economic and banking system, we should try to put in a great deal of thought at the beginning and design an irresistible, almost addictive product that would drive the way to decentralization at the greatest speed precisely when people would lack any kind of will power and self-discipline and would rather act instinctively and impulsively following their blind desires.

The tipping point


Lets say we could engineer such a product, well in that case, our only target would be to reach a tipping point. It would be reached when enough mass and speed would unleash an exponential growth period. That is the point when epidemics become pandemics, when growth explodes in such a way that it virtually becomes unstoppable. Beyond that point there won't be any need for us.

A tale of mass adoption

If there would be a worthy goal for NEM, it would certainly be mass adoption. In fact if mass adoption of NEM would happen, at least part of all the problems regarding current unsustainable economic systems would be solved in the process. It would seem the best way to start working on NEM would be with this final goal in mind. Picture a utopian future where NEM mass adoption has already happened. Now look closely at that future, what do you see? All you have to do now is reason backwards from there or reverse-engineer the process to understand what would have had to happen in order for NEM to reach that point.

Although there are a lot of things that are very blurry about that version of the future, at least some things are crystal clear:
- We have radically redefined the perception about crypto-currency by shifting from this complex geeky thing to making it the simplest, safest and fastest way to use money.
- We have gradually removed all impediments(physical or psychological) toward mass adoption – including thinking about it.
- Nobody cares how it’s even called anymore because it just works and everybody uses it.
- We have stopped showing average people technical specs and features and created a simple story to capture their imagination and outline the great benefits they have when using our system, because we figured that’s the only thing they care about.
- We have created an abundant ecosystem and seamlessly integrated NEM to naturally be used for everything we do in the world.
- We made money simple and sexy, all while solving some of the most critical economic problems in the process.

I understand that for mass adoption to happen, multiple paradigm shifts and pandemic like adoption rates are necessary at some point, however I think the idea is still worth a thought experiment.

Maybe there is a way we can somehow orchestrate these things to reach that outcome, maybe NEM is one of the next black swans.

Here are some steps we could start with now in order to take that version of the future closer to reality:

1. Outline a basic plan/roudmap toward mass adoption(or whatever our target is) and establish some basic guidelines in the form of checkpoints toward which the community could aim.

2. Focus on establishing our brand:

Action:

- answer these questions: who are we?(currency, store of value, payment system, a movement to enable all of that and a lot more?) what are 3 terms that best describe the benefits we bring to the end user(E.g. simplicity, financial freedom, security?), what is our target?

3. Create a concentrated, sustained and targeted marketing campaign to share our message in the most effective manner:

Action:

- Define core principles and values for our NEM movement.
- Spread our brand(key words, logo, smart and attractive campaign) everywhere.
-  Create a "secret" feature launch calendar and strategically coordinate launch dates and announcements of important features.
- Create the investors handout and update it along the way with our history, most important benefits we bring  and long term plan(all covered in good marketing).
- Create one or more smart and appealing NEM videos. We can definitely start with something like this in mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo but why not try to make it more like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5X5cV-4LRo.
- Create a cool weekly blog and newsletter for all NEM stakeholders containing updates, market analysis, pre-announcements of features etc.
- Set a target to strategically market ourselves in the most important newspapers, publications, well known blogs and conferences four our field.
- Coordinate social media accounts strategically and effectively in accordance to our branding.
- Strategically target and offer 5 - 10 free stakes to convert celebrities/entrepreneurs/ influential people to NEM.(Economists, smart technology guys, entrepreneurs, etc)
- Try to create a viral marketing campaign - offering a great incentive to all stakeholders/businesses to bring new people in.
- Create a NEM evangelist manual outlining how businesses should be pitched and have a F.A.Q. added to the manual.
- Contact several payment processors right after the alpha launch and establish a relationship with them. (Bitpay, Coinbase, Coinkite, etc) in order to be able to offer merchants and businesses the ability to accept NEM as soon as possible and even allow them to pay salary in NEM.
- Establish the demographics of our ideal user and try to develop a very appealing marketing strategy for him.
- Create a campaign in which every NEMster is attempting to bring 3(or more) of his smartest friends into NEM.
- Create some NEM games.
- Create a corporate design theme.(I like what NXT is doing)
- Establish what we can and want to do for businesses and try to develop a very appealing marketing strategy to help businesses accept NEM, list on our asset exchange, etc(show them step by step how to do it and how they would benefit from doing that).
- Establish a target of reaching at least 30000 users until the end of 2014 and plan how we can do that.
- Establish a target to get at least 30 companies to list on our asset exchange until the end of 2014 and plan how we can achieve that.
- Establish a target to find at least 10 companies that will pay salaries in NEM until the end of 2014.
- Establish a target to fund at least 20 big NEM project to enrich the NEM ecosystem until the end of 2014.
- I have some more ideas which will be kept secret till the right moment comes.

I also believe it is extremely important try to measure the effect of strategies we undertake in order to know if we want to pivot or persevere.

This plan is meant to be some food for thought and a springboard for the community to start participating. When looking at the suggestions above, do it with this question in mind: how could we improve things even more, how can we make things even more effective?

When you think about the great potential NEM has please understand this, we're only at the very beginning and trust me, you've seen nothing yet.








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[1]Elon Musk is working on two things at the moment: Making life multiplanetary and accelerating the advent of sustainable and energy efficient means of transportation. He is CEO of two companies at the same time(SPACEX and Tesla Motors), works 80-100 hours weekly and is arguably building the most advanced rockets and cars in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
[2] Here is a car built from the ground up to take advantage of the technology available in the 21st century. http://www.teslamotors.com/models/features#/environment
[3]Tesla Model S was rated 99 out of 100 point on consumer report: http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/09/autos/tesla-model-s-consumer-reports/

Update: I have added a note on the antifragile solution and tipping point.

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May 26, 2014, 04:36:39 AM
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A tale of mass adoption

If there would be a worthy goal for NEM, it would certainly be mass adoption. In fact if mass adoption of NEM would happen, at least part of all the problems regarding current unsustainable economic systems would be solved in the process. It would seem the best way to start working on NEM would be with this final goal in mind. Picture a utopian future where NEM mass adoption has already happened. Now look closely at that future, what do you see? All you have to do now is reason backwards from there or reverse-engineer the process to understand what would have had to happen in order for NEM to reach that point.

Although there are a lot of things that are very blurry about that version of the future, at least some things are crystal clear:
- We have radically redefined the perception about crypto-currency by shifting from this complex geeky thing to making it the simplest, safest and fastest way to use money.
- We have gradually removed all impediments(physical or psychological) toward mass adoption – including thinking about it.
- Nobody cares how it’s even called anymore because it just works and everybody uses it.
- We have stopped showing average people technical specs and features and created a simple story to capture their imagination and outline the great benefits they have when using our system, because we figured that’s the only thing they care about.
- We have created an abundant ecosystem and seamlessly integrated NEM to naturally be used for everything we do in the world.
- We made money simple and sexy, all while solving some of the most critical economic problems in the process.

I understand that for mass adoption to happen, multiple paradigm shifts and pandemic like adoption rates are necessary at some point, however I think the idea is still worth a thought experiment.

Maybe there is a way we can somehow orchestrate these things to reach that outcome, maybe NEM is one of the next black swans.

Here are some steps we could start with now in order to take that version of the future closer to reality:

1. Outline a basic plan/roudmap toward mass adoption(or whatever our target is) and establish some basic guidelines in the form of checkpoints toward which the community could aim.

2. Focus on establishing our brand:

Action:

- answer these questions: who are we?(currency, store of value, payment system, a movement to enable all of that and a lot more?) what are 3 terms that best describe the benefits we bring to the end user(E.g. simplicity, financial freedom, security?), what is our target?

3. Create a concentrated, sustained and targeted marketing campaign to share our message in the most effective manner:

Action:

- Define core principles and values for our NEM movement.
- Spread our brand(key words, logo, smart and attractive campaign) everywhere.
-  Create a "secret" feature launch calendar and strategically coordinate launch dates and announcements of important features.
- Create the investors handout and update it along the way with our history, most important benefits we bring  and long term plan(all covered in good marketing).
- Create one or more smart and appealing NEM videos. We can definitely start with something like this in mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo but why not try to make it more like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5X5cV-4LRo.
- Create a cool weekly blog and newsletter for all NEM stakeholders containing updates, market analysis, pre-announcements of features etc.
- Set a target to strategically market ourselves in the most important newspapers, publications, well known blogs and conferences four our field.
- Coordinate social media accounts strategically and effectively in accordance to our branding.
- Strategically target and offer 5 - 10 free stakes to convert celebrities/entrepreneurs/ influential people to NEM.(Economists, smart technology guys, entrepreneurs, etc)
- Try to create a viral marketing campaign - offering a great incentive to all stakeholders/businesses to bring new people in.
- Create a NEM evangelist manual outlining how businesses should be pitched and have a F.A.Q. added to the manual.
- Contact several payment processors right after the alpha launch and establish a relationship with them. (Bitpay, Coinbase, Coinkite, etc) in order to be able to offer merchants and businesses the ability to accept NEM as soon as possible and even allow them to pay salary in NEM.
- Establish the demographics of our ideal user and try to develop a very appealing marketing strategy for him.
- Create a campaign in which every NEMster is attempting to bring 3(or more) of his smartest friends into NEM.
- Create some NEM games.
- Create a corporate design theme.(I like what NXT is doing)
- Establish what we can and want to do for businesses and try to develop a very appealing marketing strategy to help businesses accept NEM, list on our asset exchange, etc(show them step by step how to do it and how they would benefit from doing that).
- Establish a target of reaching at least 30000 users until the end of 2014 and plan how we can do that.
- Establish a target to get at least 30 companies to list on our asset exchange until the end of 2014 and plan how we can achieve that.
- Establish a target to find at least 10 companies that will pay salaries in NEM until the end of 2014.
- Establish a target to fund at least 20 big NEM project to enrich the NEM ecosystem until the end of 2014.
- I have some more ideas which will be kept secret till the right moment comes.

I also believe it is extremely important try to measure the effect of strategies we undertake in order to know if we want to pivot or persevere.

This plan is meant to be some food for thought and a springboard for the community to start participating. When looking at the suggestions above, do it with this question in mind: how could we improve things even more, how can we make things even more effective?

When you think about the great potential NEM has please understand this, we're only at the very beginning and trust me, you've seen nothing yet.


Thank you for posting this. Well thought out. Having goals is the way to turn an idea into reality.
The core of NEM for me so far is transparency, communication and inclusiveness. The way I personally think it will spread most effectively is by word-of-mouth person-to-person. 
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NEM Marketing Proposal

Here are some thoughts I have regarding NEM marketing side.

Marketing and human nature

The more we study human nature we seem to discover that man is not as rational as he thought. In fact, he is invariably guided by a combination of conscious, subconscious, emotions and biases which often leads to decisions that are at best irrational and at worst very damaging for individuals and society in general. In a utopian world, we would only have to build a great piece of technology and people would rush to adopt it immediately, simply because it would be in their best interest. In our world, however, it seems it has become increasingly hard for people to make sense of the world. Not only that, but even when people understand what’s wrong and what they need to do, they rarely have the power to act in accordance to what they think.

Here’s the point where good marketing comes in. There was a time when people believed they could solve big problems just by pointing the way toward a solution. As we can see now, the decision dynamics of humanity is a nearly impossibly complex mechanism that is rarely advancing in the right direction. So if we want to change something important for the better, we simply cannot leave things to randomness and inertia. The question then is, can we change the course of things, albeit in a small yet instrumental way? And if so, how?

Making it simple and sexy

I think the bitcoin story, though still at its very beginning, can offer some very useful and powerful lessons as to how this may be done, and indeed, confirm this is really possible. Indeed, consider that bitcoin has achieved the current status lacking both simplicity and sexyness. When those will be added(and I know a lot of people are working on that now) I think bitcoin will probably go to a whole other level.

In fact there may be an even better example from which one could learn some important things. Consider the story of Elon Musk, who is arguably one of the most important entrepreneurs/engineer/ inventor alive and apparently a billionaire genius.[1] As he understood where we are today and what are some of the most important problems/threats we could face in the future, he came up with some ideas and plans as to how this problems could be solved and threats could be transformed into powerful innovation for the benefit of humanity. One of the problems he figured is that auto industry was advancing in the wrong direction because of unsustainable production and consumption of energy(Pollution and climate damage with potentially destructive consequences for the long term and high consumption of relatively scarce resources). He also figured that arguably for the immediate future the solution would lay in electric cars. The biggest problem with electric cars was their perception. Who wants them?! They’re slow, ugly, unreliable, low range, boring and unsexy. So even if you would make an electric car, you could not beat people into buying it, nobody would. Or at least, nobody until they learned about Tesla Motors.[2] Elon musk figured that the most effective way to solve the problem would be to radically redefine the perception about electric cars by creating the first compelling electric car ever built that would capture the imagination of people. It should be better in almost every aspect than its gasoline competitors[3] but most important of all, the car should be sexy, irresistibly sexy. This is how the burden of psychological hard work has changed from the customer to the inventor.  An irresistibly sexy product has been created and all the customer needs to do is follow his basic instincts, passively catalyzing the solution for a very important problem in the process.

An antifragile solution

It seems the solutions offered until now are very fragile precisely because they are inherently dependent on a highly unstable variable, the human nature. But think for a second, what if we could engineer a meta-solution, one that could solve or isolate a much bigger problem which would in turn render us resilient or even better yet, antifragile to human nature?

How would that look in reality? Well, instead of asking of people to use their will power, self-discipline and invest a great deal of intellectual and psychological effort to fight a long war with the current economic and banking system, we should try to put in a great deal of thought at the beginning and design an irresistible, almost addictive product that would drive the way to decentralization at the greatest speed precisely when people would lack any kind of will power and self-discipline and would rather act instinctively and impulsively following their blind desires.

The tipping point


Lets say we could engineer such a product, well in that case, our only target would be to reach a tipping point. It would be reached when enough mass and speed would unleash an exponential growth period. That is the point when epidemics become pandemics, when growth explodes in such a way that it virtually becomes unstoppable. Beyond that point there won't be any need for us.

A tale of mass adoption

If there would be a worthy goal for NEM, it would certainly be mass adoption. In fact if mass adoption of NEM would happen, at least part of all the problems regarding current unsustainable economic systems would be solved in the process. It would seem the best way to start working on NEM would be with this final goal in mind. Picture a utopian future where NEM mass adoption has already happened. Now look closely at that future, what do you see? All you have to do now is reason backwards from there or reverse-engineer the process to understand what would have had to happen in order for NEM to reach that point.

Although there are a lot of things that are very blurry about that version of the future, at least some things are crystal clear:
- We have radically redefined the perception about crypto-currency by shifting from this complex geeky thing to making it the simplest, safest and fastest way to use money.
- We have gradually removed all impediments(physical or psychological) toward mass adoption – including thinking about it.
- Nobody cares how it’s even called anymore because it just works and everybody uses it.
- We have stopped showing average people technical specs and features and created a simple story to capture their imagination and outline the great benefits they have when using our system, because we figured that’s the only thing they care about.
- We have created an abundant ecosystem and seamlessly integrated NEM to naturally be used for everything we do in the world.
- We made money simple and sexy, all while solving some of the most critical economic problems in the process.

I understand that for mass adoption to happen, multiple paradigm shifts and pandemic like adoption rates are necessary at some point, however I think the idea is still worth a thought experiment.

Maybe there is a way we can somehow orchestrate these things to reach that outcome, maybe NEM is one of the next black swans.

Here are some steps we could start with now in order to take that version of the future closer to reality:

1. Outline a basic plan/roudmap toward mass adoption(or whatever our target is) and establish some basic guidelines in the form of checkpoints toward which the community could aim.

2. Focus on establishing our brand:

Action:

- answer these questions: who are we?(currency, store of value, payment system, a movement to enable all of that and a lot more?) what are 3 terms that best describe the benefits we bring to the end user(E.g. simplicity, financial freedom, security?), what is our target?

3. Create a concentrated, sustained and targeted marketing campaign to share our message in the most effective manner:

Action:

- Define core principles and values for our NEM movement.
- Spread our brand(key words, logo, smart and attractive campaign) everywhere.
-  Create a "secret" feature launch calendar and strategically coordinate launch dates and announcements of important features.
- Create the investors handout and update it along the way with our history, most important benefits we bring  and long term plan(all covered in good marketing).
- Create one or more smart and appealing NEM videos. We can definitely start with something like this in mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo but why not try to make it more like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5X5cV-4LRo.
- Create a cool weekly blog and newsletter for all NEM stakeholders containing updates, market analysis, pre-announcements of features etc.
- Set a target to strategically market ourselves in the most important newspapers, publications, well known blogs and conferences four our field.
- Coordinate social media accounts strategically and effectively in accordance to our branding.
- Strategically target and offer 5 - 10 free stakes to convert celebrities/entrepreneurs/ influential people to NEM.(Economists, smart technology guys, entrepreneurs, etc)
- Try to create a viral marketing campaign - offering a great incentive to all stakeholders/businesses to bring new people in.
- Create a NEM evangelist manual outlining how businesses should be pitched and have a F.A.Q. added to the manual.
- Contact several payment processors right after the alpha launch and establish a relationship with them. (Bitpay, Coinbase, Coinkite, etc) in order to be able to offer merchants and businesses the ability to accept NEM as soon as possible and even allow them to pay salary in NEM.
- Establish the demographics of our ideal user and try to develop a very appealing marketing strategy for him.
- Create a campaign in which every NEMster is attempting to bring 3(or more) of his smartest friends into NEM.
- Create some NEM games.
- Create a corporate design theme.(I like what NXT is doing)
- Establish what we can and want to do for businesses and try to develop a very appealing marketing strategy to help businesses accept NEM, list on our asset exchange, etc(show them step by step how to do it and how they would benefit from doing that).
- Establish a target of reaching at least 30000 users until the end of 2014 and plan how we can do that.
- Establish a target to get at least 30 companies to list on our asset exchange until the end of 2014 and plan how we can achieve that.
- Establish a target to find at least 10 companies that will pay salaries in NEM until the end of 2014.
- Establish a target to fund at least 20 big NEM project to enrich the NEM ecosystem until the end of 2014.
- I have some more ideas which will be kept secret till the right moment comes.

I also believe it is extremely important try to measure the effect of strategies we undertake in order to know if we want to pivot or persevere.

This plan is meant to be some food for thought and a springboard for the community to start participating. When looking at the suggestions above, do it with this question in mind: how could we improve things even more, how can we make things even more effective?

When you think about the great potential NEM has please understand this, we're only at the very beginning and trust me, you've seen nothing yet.








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[1]Elon Musk is working on two things at the moment: Making life multiplanetary and accelerating the advent of sustainable and energy efficient means of transportation. He is CEO of two companies at the same time(SPACEX and Tesla Motors), works 80-100 hours weekly and is arguably building the most advanced rockets and cars in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
[2] Here is a car built from the ground up to take advantage of the technology available in the 21st century. http://www.teslamotors.com/models/features#/environment
[3]Tesla Model S was rated 99 out of 100 point on consumer report: http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/09/autos/tesla-model-s-consumer-reports/

Update: I have added a note on the antifragile solution and tipping point.


Good proposal. Have we found NEM's marketing manager? I think xtester is a great fit.
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Chinese translation is done.

译者声明:本作品的翻译版本仅供个人学习欣赏之用,不得用于任何商业目的,不得以任何方式修改本作品,基于此产生的法律责任本人不承担连带责任。(请以英文原贴为准,并回复它:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.8380

NEM开发征求意见稿(草案)

1,请参见NEM过往及将来发布的所有的管理信息.
2,至现在的利益相关者们:核心开发团队的开发方案的目标是创新设计最好NEM区块链,以及在核心开发团队角度来看所应具有的功能及易用性.这导致一些利益相关者不赞同,无法沟通,不能相互理解.在这种情况下,请您退款,这样我们可以好聚好散.如果利益相关者没有投入资金,那么,开发团队可以拒绝返还资金.
3.至投资者:如果你想从当前的利益相关者或是NEM的公开拍卖中,购买新的份额.请仔细地的看这个意见稿,请您充份评估认识到这个投资的高风险性,及你承担投资风险的能力.
4,有关NEM的相关信息,请自行收集.开发团队没有义务提供额外的信息,诸如:程序发布的确切时间,或是团队成员的个人信息等等.


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May 26, 2014, 05:32:40 AM
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This is insane. http://willyreport.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/the-willy-report-proof-of-massive-fraudulent-trading-activity-at-mt-gox-and-how-it-has-affected-the-price-of-bitcoin/

It seems a very significant part of bitcoin price increase was mostly due to market manipulation and insider job.

i dont believe that atall! even if its true.. the price has sustained itself at these prices and started rising again with out manipulation. so if true.. it may have started it.. but it will continue regardless...

Right, I am not stating that bitcoin has no value or anything like that, on the contrary, the idea is that in addition of everything bitcoin had(first mover advantage, innovation, expanding ecosystem, growing adoption) a great push came from this kind of price manipulation. Indeed, maybe this was the kind of push bitcoin needed to attract everyone's attention(cause a lot of other complex side effects) and really take off.

I have posted this message on the trello board several days ago, so this was the context:

"It really seems people don't generally understand how the market works. There are a lots of painful examples of brilliant people who did really good and innovative work, but who didn't understood that it was not enough. A very well known example is Nikola Tesla. We all heard what a brilliant work he did and although we use his inventions(AC), unfortunately he did not make much from them. It seems in the crypto-world people believe innovation and interesting features are enough to bring a steady price increase. The important thing however, is that if you study the markets long enough, you will understand that beside bitcoin, almost every other coin has risen, contrary to popular opinion, not because of good features but because of big pumps that were closely coordinated to accompany an important feature announcement.
A good example of this would be Dogecoin. Most people think that Doge took off because of the great community and good meme based marketing. The truth is, in addition to those factors, probably one of the most important factors that have contributed to Dogecoin's take off, was Wolong. (If you have not read Wolong's story, please read this PDF: http://cryptofrenzy.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/god.pdf - it is highly instructive and very intriguing"

A informative and interesting read. Thank you for this post. Just goes to show that these "decentralized" currencies really arn't much different from the government FIAT's they despise so much.

I think the problem is a bit more complex. Until these markets become more mature and truly decentralized they are indeed susceptible to some kind of manipulation. However, the free market has shown to have a very effective way of self-regulation and self-correcting such deviations over longer periods of time. In fact, considering the relative small period of time in which Crypto-currencies have existed, the result they have achieved is quite impressing. I also think it is a good thing that they have been through so may crashes and all kind of different problems because as a result they have evolved to be more on the resilient/robust side instead of very fragile/too big to fail side.
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Chinese translation is done.

译者声明:本作品的翻译版本仅供个人学习欣赏之用,不得用于任何商业目的,不得以任何方式修改本作品,基于此产生的法律责任本人不承担连带责任。(请以英文原贴为准,并回复它:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.8380

NEM开发征求意见稿(草案)

1,请参见NEM过往及将来发布的所有的管理信息.
2,至现在的利益相关者们:核心开发团队的开发方案的目标是创新设计最好NEM区块链,以及在核心开发团队角度来看所应具有的功能及易用性.这导致一些利益相关者不赞同,无法沟通,不能相互理解.在这种情况下,请您退款,这样我们可以好聚好散.如果利益相关者没有投入资金,那么,开发团队可以拒绝返还资金.
3.至投资者:如果你想从当前的利益相关者或是NEM的公开拍卖中,购买新的份额.请仔细地的看这个意见稿,请您充份评估认识到这个投资的高风险性,及你承担投资风险的能力.
4,有关NEM的相关信息,请自行收集.开发团队没有义务提供额外的信息,诸如:程序发布的确切时间,或是团队成员的个人信息等等.


点赞。Thanks to the core development team


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Cross post to the asset exchange thread and I am truly sorry.

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Dear NEM stakeholder community,

I apologize for making some of you disappointed but I decide to hold off the asset exchange listing for at least a couple of days until more information about NEM and its governance structure could be provided.

The reason for that is because I realized involving new investors is a qualitative change in NEM organizational structure and that needs to be handed with more transparency and disclosure. So far NEM has been conceptualized as a voluntary association in which stakeholders are participants and contributors to the formation of a new decentralized movement. In that conceptualization, I am comfortable in handling participant complaints with a simple refund suggestion. In that conceptualization, no one loses when he doesn't like what the development team is doing and can voluntarily withdraw. We as a team could also have the right to refuse certain participants who are deem not beneficial (sockpuppets for example). This phase has been dubbed "a call for participation" (it is not an IPO sorry) for these rationales.

This phase was over when the final stakeholder was published. No more stakeholders will be added. Now we are going to transition to a new phase in which investors can come in via  sales from the current stakeholders and public auction. I think they deserve to know more what future governance of the system will look like. So before investors are welcomed in, I would like to publish at least a preliminary draft of the Development Contract to the agreement of all current stakeholders. So the time during the asset exchange listing postponement will be used for that process. The process will include: the development team publishing a preliminary draft of the Development Contract; current stakeholders commenting and criticizing the Development Contract; majority of current stakeholders agreeing on the Development Contract and the rest requesting a refund and leave.

While I believe at this point the shares of the current stakeholders are theirs to control and technically asset listing is for the current stakeholder selling a part of his shares. However, we as a team cannot afford officiating the sale without performing our obligation in a full disclosure of what we plan to do with the development shares and development reserves. Hence, the postponement of the listing. I have been preparing materials for the Development Contract for a while and will be able to publish a preliminary draft very soon.

UtopianFuture     

Does this mean NEM release will be delayed?


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Cross post to the asset exchange thread and I am truly sorry.

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Dear NEM stakeholder community,

I apologize for making some of you disappointed but I decide to hold off the asset exchange listing for at least a couple of days until more information about NEM and its governance structure could be provided.

The reason for that is because I realized involving new investors is a qualitative change in NEM organizational structure and that needs to be handed with more transparency and disclosure. So far NEM has been conceptualized as a voluntary association in which stakeholders are participants and contributors to the formation of a new decentralized movement. In that conceptualization, I am comfortable in handling participant complaints with a simple refund suggestion. In that conceptualization, no one loses when he doesn't like what the development team is doing and can voluntarily withdraw. We as a team could also have the right to refuse certain participants who are deem not beneficial (sockpuppets for example). This phase has been dubbed "a call for participation" (it is not an IPO sorry) for these rationales.

This phase was over when the final stakeholder was published. No more stakeholders will be added. Now we are going to transition to a new phase in which investors can come in via  sales from the current stakeholders and public auction. I think they deserve to know more what future governance of the system will look like. So before investors are welcomed in, I would like to publish at least a preliminary draft of the Development Contract to the agreement of all current stakeholders. So the time during the asset exchange listing postponement will be used for that process. The process will include: the development team publishing a preliminary draft of the Development Contract; current stakeholders commenting and criticizing the Development Contract; majority of current stakeholders agreeing on the Development Contract and the rest requesting a refund and leave.

While I believe at this point the shares of the current stakeholders are theirs to control and technically asset listing is for the current stakeholder selling a part of his shares. However, we as a team cannot afford officiating the sale without performing our obligation in a full disclosure of what we plan to do with the development shares and development reserves. Hence, the postponement of the listing. I have been preparing materials for the Development Contract for a while and will be able to publish a preliminary draft very soon.

UtopianFuture     

Does this mean NEM release will be delayed?

Nope, this is about pre-release trading on the NXT asset exchange.

                
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May 26, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
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Top 2 Bid order now in AE:
Account                                  Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-5RB8-KJD3-BT3B-E2QWW   0.2         26'000   5'200
NXT-P5JJ-YSAL-G6N7-7WL2N   0.1         25'000   2'500

So cheap! Forget it...
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Top 2 Bid order now in AE:
Account                                  Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-5RB8-KJD3-BT3B-E2QWW   0.2         26'000   5'200
NXT-P5JJ-YSAL-G6N7-7WL2N   0.1         25'000   2'500

So cheap! Forget it...


i think nobody sell for that price.
But still 26000NXT for whole stake is 4M$ marketcap for NEM.
When aplha go out...10M$, for beta 30M$ and in july i hope 100 M$

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May 26, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
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Top 2 Bid order now in AE:
Account                                  Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-5RB8-KJD3-BT3B-E2QWW   0.2         26'000   5'200
NXT-P5JJ-YSAL-G6N7-7WL2N   0.1         25'000   2'500

So cheap! Forget it...


i think nobody sell for that price.
But still 26000NXT for whole stake is 4M$ marketcap for NEM.
When aplha go out...10M$, for beta 30M$ and in july i hope 100 M$
I want from dgex.com Withdrawal some nxt to buy more NEM stake, But always PENDING , and no reply for my email
Anyone know what happened to DGEX?
 
2014-05-05 15:18:06         NXT Withdrawal PENDING to  ??    -12980.00000000
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May 26, 2014, 12:09:09 PM
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Cross post to the asset exchange thread and I am truly sorry.

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Dear NEM stakeholder community,

I apologize for making some of you disappointed but I decide to hold off the asset exchange listing for at least a couple of days until more information about NEM and its governance structure could be provided.

The reason for that is because I realized involving new investors is a qualitative change in NEM organizational structure and that needs to be handed with more transparency and disclosure. So far NEM has been conceptualized as a voluntary association in which stakeholders are participants and contributors to the formation of a new decentralized movement. In that conceptualization, I am comfortable in handling participant complaints with a simple refund suggestion. In that conceptualization, no one loses when he doesn't like what the development team is doing and can voluntarily withdraw. We as a team could also have the right to refuse certain participants who are deem not beneficial (sockpuppets for example). This phase has been dubbed "a call for participation" (it is not an IPO sorry) for these rationales.

This phase was over when the final stakeholder was published. No more stakeholders will be added. Now we are going to transition to a new phase in which investors can come in via  sales from the current stakeholders and public auction. I think they deserve to know more what future governance of the system will look like. So before investors are welcomed in, I would like to publish at least a preliminary draft of the Development Contract to the agreement of all current stakeholders. So the time during the asset exchange listing postponement will be used for that process. The process will include: the development team publishing a preliminary draft of the Development Contract; current stakeholders commenting and criticizing the Development Contract; majority of current stakeholders agreeing on the Development Contract and the rest requesting a refund and leave.

While I believe at this point the shares of the current stakeholders are theirs to control and technically asset listing is for the current stakeholder selling a part of his shares. However, we as a team cannot afford officiating the sale without performing our obligation in a full disclosure of what we plan to do with the development shares and development reserves. Hence, the postponement of the listing. I have been preparing materials for the Development Contract for a while and will be able to publish a preliminary draft very soon.

UtopianFuture     

Dear UP and community,

I think this is the right decision!

Offering tokens on NXT AE is a good idea, however it enables investors with big money to accumulate a large number of tokens/NEMcoins. We have seen a lot of times, distribution is the key factor to a successful launch of a coin. I dont have to tell what "happened" with NXT and Qora and others... and these coins still "suffer" from the distribution topic. Listing on the AE will disturb the equality of the distribution of NEMcoins. People soak up all the stakes because they have BIG money and couple of weeks later they sell for 10x-100x the price? Average Joe has no possibility to enter the market. No thanks.

So I think it is essential to public concrete development plans, features of the coin, marketing intentions FIRST and BEFORE putting anything of NEM on the market to trade. So every stakeholder has the chance to judge if he holds onto his stake based on FACTS and not on rumors. I pledge to only offer AE tokens after presenting the full potential of this coin, maybe alpha release.

I personally dont like to see AGAIN 10% holding 90% of all the funds. With DEVs presenting the potential and features of NEM a fair and reasonable price and marketcap should emphasize before going to any kind of market. If investors soak up all NEM, they should pay the "real" price and not make any kind of big bargain.

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May 26, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
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Top 2 Bid order now in AE:
Account                                  Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-5RB8-KJD3-BT3B-E2QWW   0.2         26'000   5'200
NXT-P5JJ-YSAL-G6N7-7WL2N   0.1         25'000   2'500

So cheap! Forget it...


i think nobody sell for that price.
But still 26000NXT for whole stake is 4M$ marketcap for NEM.
When aplha go out...10M$, for beta 30M$ and in july i hope 100 M$
NEM’s market cap will surpass NXT: 500M$
1 NEM=1$ Grin
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May 26, 2014, 12:11:36 PM
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Top 2 Bid order now in AE:
Account                                  Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-5RB8-KJD3-BT3B-E2QWW   0.2         26'000   5'200
NXT-P5JJ-YSAL-G6N7-7WL2N   0.1         25'000   2'500

So cheap! Forget it...


i think nobody sell for that price.
But still 26000NXT for whole stake is 4M$ marketcap for NEM.
When aplha go out...10M$, for beta 30M$ and in july i hope 100 M$
I want from dgex.com Withdrawal some nxt to buy more NEM stake, But always PENDING , and no reply for my email
Anyone know what happened to DGEX?
 
2014-05-05 15:18:06         NXT Withdrawal PENDING to  ??    -12980.00000000

DGEX processes NXT withdrawals only once per day.  If your IP address has changed it could take longer.

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May 26, 2014, 12:13:58 PM
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Top 2 Bid order now in AE:
Account                                  Quantity    Price    Total
NXT-5RB8-KJD3-BT3B-E2QWW   0.2         26'000   5'200
NXT-P5JJ-YSAL-G6N7-7WL2N   0.1         25'000   2'500

So cheap! Forget it...


i think nobody sell for that price.
But still 26000NXT for whole stake is 4M$ marketcap for NEM.
When aplha go out...10M$, for beta 30M$ and in july i hope 100 M$
I want from dgex.com Withdrawal some nxt to buy more NEM stake, But always PENDING , and no reply for my email
Anyone know what happened to DGEX?
 
2014-05-05 15:18:06         NXT Withdrawal PENDING to  ??    -12980.00000000

DGEX processes NXT withdrawals only once per day.  If your IP address has changed it could take longer.
Past 20 days, how long it will take? Disappointing
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NEM was listed yesterday as an asset on NXT's AE: https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-nemtoken/


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