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Author Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning  (Read 2005864 times)
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June 27, 2016, 04:22:37 PM
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if it comes to changing the client, "I don't care to vote" is a no as well...

pls stop putting word into my mouth, im not voting and im happy with  22% yes vote.

you still didn't get it?
Forking means, that they have to install a new client.
This was a vote on one big pool. If the participants were not in the pool but were directly in the system, they would have to install or not install a new version (there is no abstention). The not attending (lazy) people would not install a new software, thats why its like a "no". Of course you can say, the pool will not care (whats paternalism in my view), but that's still only 1/4 of the network and the ratio of "lazy" people will be equal.

This system makes sense, because, if you really want to change something, you are not lazy... otherwise it was not worth it...

the fact remain that this was a vote on one big pool.  so those who are not voting should be regarded as neutral or pro fork, because if they were bunch of anti fork as you were implying then they should vote no instead of doing nothing.
btw ::  new version of wallet is irrelevant in this voting because its a pool, surely the pool will change the wallet for them.
 

Is it really so hard to understand? The blockchain is a system that should not be altered easily. Thats why its a blessing, that inaction leads to no change...
You want it the other way arround. That would lead to some rich people buying a few idiots to make it change and the rest doesn't care. You saw, how ridiculously low the participant percentage was...

but that change was the right thing to do.  u know what happen in real world if a bug by the bank give you million of free money Huh

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-05/woman-arrested-at-sydney-airport-over-alleged-fraud/7385482


gosh thats what i try to say since this started steeling back is still steeling they should put more effort on finding the identity of the attacker then on steeling it back


I guess they were not stealing if they never receive the money or spend it...
but you were right, counter attack like these put those ppl in the same crimescene as the original attacker. only fork can help them now as the project initiator, i guess ethereum/DAO dev has right to rectify mistake and bug that plagued their program.   Sad

The intention matters. The first attack was to steal. The second attack by the white hat was to save the DAO.
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June 27, 2016, 04:38:07 PM
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saving is a good thing but the tools they will use will show what ethic they follow
i hope it is not the bailout too big to fail ethic
the quetions will be
are we different ?

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June 27, 2016, 05:05:10 PM
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I left Ethereum a few weeks back. Its been an insane ride. Man people get so blinded when they are so deeply involved. I believe in the tech, but right now they is too much madness around the table. Lets let the dust settle and see what we have.
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June 27, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
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I left Ethereum a few weeks back. Its been an insane ride. Man people get so blinded when they are so deeply involved. I believe in the tech, but right now they is too much madness around the table. Lets let the dust settle and see what we have.
wise advice

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June 27, 2016, 06:52:05 PM
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So the fork is to direct everyone from the actul problem the dao
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June 27, 2016, 07:23:29 PM
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So the fork is to direct everyone from the actul problem the dao

that is to solve the problem of the DAO. It will lock the stolen 3.6 million coins.. The DAO will be dissolved any way.
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June 27, 2016, 08:20:04 PM
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https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-smart-contracts-safeguards/

..............counterparty will introduce a series of safeguards into its Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) on the Bitcoin blockchain – including a ban on rollbacks, author responsibility for smart contracts and a deactivation switch controlled by community vote..............
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June 27, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
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Time to move on ...
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June 27, 2016, 09:13:58 PM
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It is simply unacceptable waste of DAO, which like it or not a project is taking place within the ETH, after all that happened, go to the ground, recovering herself, and worth more than several promising currencies like Decred and Vcash is ... a slap in the face of devs committed to the crypto universe.
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June 27, 2016, 09:49:10 PM
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http://themerkle.com/the-ethereum-soft-fork-has-been-adopted-by-major-mining-pools/


http://www.coindesk.com/miner-voting-points-to-success-of-ethereum-soft-fork-to-blacklist-the-dao/

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June 28, 2016, 08:35:55 AM
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Buterin: Article from 1 year ago pertinent to current Soft-Fork discussions (Basically, in future versions Of Ethereum address-blocking soft forks will be outright impossible)
https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/06/06/the-problem-of-censorship/?1

Is that means hard fork coming?

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June 28, 2016, 10:02:35 AM
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XEM about to overtake you in volume, that's the new hype now. They even lie about the japanese government backing it. Their lies are even prettier - people will buy it even more. They'll add some more outlandish claims later to drive the oprice even more, i'm sure.

Done here, over to exposing the next scam  Wink
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June 28, 2016, 10:39:25 AM
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all you betamales still holding this broken piece of shit?

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June 28, 2016, 12:13:02 PM
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Buterin: Article from 1 year ago pertinent to current Soft-Fork discussions (Basically, in future versions Of Ethereum address-blocking soft forks will be outright impossible)
https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/06/06/the-problem-of-censorship/?1

Is that means hard fork coming?

soft fork implemented and explained in a post of ethereum foundation
https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/06/24/dao-wars-youre-voice-soft-fork-dilemma/
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June 28, 2016, 01:22:09 PM
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Buterin: Article from 1 year ago pertinent to current Soft-Fork discussions (Basically, in future versions Of Ethereum address-blocking soft forks will be outright impossible)
https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/06/06/the-problem-of-censorship/?1

Is that means hard fork coming?

soft fork implemented and explained in a post of ethereum foundation
https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/06/24/dao-wars-youre-voice-soft-fork-dilemma/

Yes, but Buterin wrote 6 hours ago: Article from 1 year ago pertinent to current Soft-Fork discussions (Basically, in future versions Of Ethereum address-blocking soft forks will be outright impossible)
https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/06/06/the-problem-of-censorship/?1

Is that means hard fork coming?

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June 28, 2016, 01:23:44 PM
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XEM about to overtake you in volume, that's the new hype now. They even lie about the japanese government backing it. Their lies are even prettier - people will buy it even more. They'll add some more outlandish claims later to drive the oprice even more, i'm sure.

Done here, over to exposing the next scam  Wink

Haha exactly.
ETH overpriced pump bot garbage.
Now XEM shit being hype for what?! Nothing!
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June 28, 2016, 01:30:22 PM
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Pump-whale has had enough  Roll Eyes

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June 28, 2016, 04:05:34 PM
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I would think hard fork would be in order.
maybe dump to get rid of weak hands before the pump
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June 28, 2016, 05:05:41 PM
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Is the dump related to Ddos their clusterfurk?

http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/06/28/ethereum-soft-fork-dos-vector/
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June 28, 2016, 05:30:27 PM
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Hey take a look at recent NXT development:

1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=587007.msg14942174#msg14942174

2) http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/06/21/nxt-crypto-blockchain-team-prepares-ardor-scalable-child-chain-platform/#78ee9775349b
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