[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[sock54321]

This coins should be renamed to "ImperatorCoin" or "DictatorCoin"

I think there could be consensus for "Vitalikum"

[revelacaogr]

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\Etherindex LLC Files SEC Prospectus for First Ether-Based ETF

http://www.ethereum.net/news/spotlight/etherindex-llc-files-sec-prospectus-for-first-ether-based-etf

[sxafir]

Etherum classic start today.

[frostminer]

Jeeezes.

The train has left and aint comming back.
Stop fucking whining and accept it.

[jc12345]

If someone's eth gets hacked now in the "new" world can he request a hard fork?

[Perryl]

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Kind of like when a bank accidentally deposits money into the wrong account, and they roll back the transaction. If you withdrew the money you get charged, etc.

Isn't Ether supposed to be different? I thought we weren't able to do this with crypto. I thought cryptocurrencies were supposed to be different than banks.

Ether proved me wrong.

No need to prove anything, you are wrong. Banks do not declare all transactions are law (IE set in stone) in their mission statement. ETH-F has broken many fundamentals it originally stated as unchangeable and has therefore broken it's contract.

You don't have to like it but it is fact. Denying it won't make it change.

ETH-F should start a new thread anyway and lock the old one just for the fact the original thread clearly proves they did not adhere to their stated goals. Duh

Did you even understand my point? You're arguing with me but agreeing with me in the same post. Try understanding my point.

[iCEBREAKER]

Where is the bloody mETH/eTHC pair? Why does it take so long and to which coin does this thread actually belong to now? Fuckin' pussy-footing is incredible around here.

The herping and derping are hilarious!  Are you not entertained?

Bitcoin runs on drama, Ethereum runs on controversy.

What happens when, say, Coinbase GDAX customers demand access to their eTHC?

Does Coinbase pay out on one chain based on their whims?

The safest, least liability creating approach is to treat one of them as a spin-off, where existing shareholders get shares in the new company on a 1 to 1 basis.

The optimally profitable strategy for an exchange is to offer the pair and profit from additional volume/volatility/derivatives.

If you have *ETH on an exchange that supports the hard fork, let them know they may either provide the immutable coins you originally purchased or get ready to talk to thier lawyer(s).

And that argument may cuts both ways, for exchanges that *don't* support the hard fork.  

[frostminer]

Where is the bloody mETH/eTHC pair? Why does it take so long and to which coin does this thread actually belong to now? Fuckin' pussy-footing is incredible around here.

The herping and derping are hilarious!  Are you not entertained?

Bitcoin runs on drama, Ethereum runs on controversy.

What happens when, say, Coinbase GDAX customers demand access to their eTHC?

Does Coinbase pay out on one chain based on their whims?

The safest, least liability creating approach is to treat one of them as a spin-off, where existing shareholders get shares in the new company on a 1 to 1 basis.

The optimally profitable strategy for an exchange is to offer the pair and profit from additional volume/volatility/derivatives.

If you have *ETH on an exchange that supports the hard fork, let them know they may either provide the immutable coins you originally purchased or get ready to talk to thier lawyer(s).

And that argument may cuts both ways, for exchanges that *don't* support the hard fork.  

Which exchanges didnt go with the fork?

[roselee]

This thread needs to be given to ethc. Eth-hf needs a new thread.

Meh..
The few thief-friends can go somewhere else and have their own party.

Thanks, join my petition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559622.0

The thread is now misleading as the the original ethereum is now called ETHC which retains being immutable.

ETH-HF must create a new announcement with new ethos and current thread given to ETHC. Another possibility is locking the thread since that version of ethereum no longer exists.

You misunderstood.

The hacker-thief-supporters which are not the majority, but seemingly a tiny tiny minority paying to look bigger.

YOU and those supporters should go somewhere else.

This thread is for the main project of ETH... and as voted, the thief is not part of it.

You don't seem to understand as well.. Its not a "thief" - it's merely someone who found a flaw in the code and used it for its own advantage.

The DAO contract was bugged - not ETH and IMHO a rollback / hardfork because a bugged contract should absolutely NOT be possible in a modern, decentralized crypto currency. However - they forked it anyway which is the right decision for some people and the wrong decision for others, you probably never get it right for everyone.

"it's merely someone who found a flaw in the code and used it for its own advantage." - which makes him a thief.

Kind of like when a bank accidentally deposits money into the wrong account, and they roll back the transaction. If you withdrew the money you get charged, etc.

Isn't Ether supposed to be different? I thought we weren't able to do this with crypto. I thought cryptocurrencies were supposed to be different than banks.

Ether proved me wrong.

i feel so betrayed by ether . was a suporter from the beginning. promises just empty promises..........

[roselee]

If someone's eth gets hacked now in the "new" world can he request a hard fork?

o yeah i like my own hard fork i dont like this new ether.

[frostminer]

If someone's eth gets hacked now in the "new" world can he request a hard fork?

o yeah i like my own hard fork i dont like this new ether.

You want some cheese to this whine?

[roselee]

This thread needs to be given to ethc. Eth-hf needs a new thread.

Meh..
The few thief-friends can go somewhere else and have their own party.

Thanks, join my petition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559622.0

The thread is now misleading as the the original ethereum is now called ETHC which retains being immutable.

ETH-HF must create a new announcement with new ethos and current thread given to ETHC. Another possibility is locking the thread since that version of ethereum no longer exists.

You misunderstood.

The hacker-thief-supporters which are not the majority, but seemingly a tiny tiny minority paying to look bigger.

YOU and those supporters should go somewhere else.

This thread is for the main project of ETH... and as voted, the thief is not part of it.

You don't seem to understand as well.. Its not a "thief" - it's merely someone who found a flaw in the code and used it for its own advantage.

The DAO contract was bugged - not ETH and IMHO a rollback / hardfork because a bugged contract should absolutely NOT be possible in a modern, decentralized crypto currency. However - they forked it anyway which is the right decision for some people and the wrong decision for others, you probably never get it right for everyone.

"it's merely someone who found a flaw in the code and used it for its own advantage." - which makes him a thief.

Wrong, code is law. Vitaliks own words. His only selling point.

So Vitaliks makes the law now?  In what country?  Certainly not in the United States.  Code is not law.  Flaws in code are not law.  Exploiting flaws in code to take something that does not belong to you is not legal.

The point you are missing along with the other people who share your motives is that you cannot take something that does not belong to you without permission.  It doesn't matter how you do it.  You claim the code allowed the thief to do it therefore what he did was legal.  But what about the owners of the ETH that was taken?  If they had no knowledge of the taking or reasonable belief that their ETH was theirs and that no one could take it without their permission AND they claim they did not give said permission, then whoever took it should have given it back.  Once he knew that what he did was not intended he should have offered it back.  By keeping it, not divulging his mistake and not offering to return it he willfully kept something that was not his. Hence, he stole it.

You must be one of those people who when a cashier gives you too much change you keep it, right?  Such an honest person.

gosh ...... and again yes the daos ether was taken by someone in a unethical way ...... and big money was on japady becouse of this bad code of thedao........ but they bailed out the investors.....by this hardfork..... the taker could have been punished in some other ways too but no they feared damage on there investment just like big banks
tooo big to fail isnt it 
and dont say to dont understand the difference...

[bitpop]

If someone's eth gets hacked now in the "new" world can he request a hard fork?

o yeah i like my own hard fork i dont like this new ether.

You want some cheese to this whine?

So what's next for ethereum? Dao and smart contracts are dead. How will you continue the shitcoin pump?

[frostminer]

If someone's eth gets hacked now in the "new" world can he request a hard fork?

o yeah i like my own hard fork i dont like this new ether.

You want some cheese to this whine?

So what's next for ethereum? Dao and smart contracts are dead. How will you continue the shitcoin pump?

You want cheese.. i see.

Sorry to see you so sad for falling off the train.  It has now left the station and wont come back.
Why not start the cry party in your own thread?

This is the thread for those following the dev-team.

Kinda tiresome seeing you whine and nag like a butthurt b.....

MOVE ON.

[Hueristic]

...
Kind of like when a bank accidentally deposits money into the wrong account, and they roll back the transaction. If you withdrew the money you get charged, etc.

Isn't Ether supposed to be different? I thought we weren't able to do this with crypto. I thought cryptocurrencies were supposed to be different than banks.

Ether proved me wrong.

No need to prove anything, you are wrong. Banks do not declare all transactions are law (IE set in stone) in their mission statement. ETH-F has broken many fundamentals it originally stated as unchangeable and has therefore broken it's contract.

You don't have to like it but it is fact. Denying it won't make it change.

ETH-F should start a new thread anyway and lock the old one just for the fact the original thread clearly proves they did not adhere to their stated goals. Duh

Did you even understand my point? You're arguing with me but agreeing with me in the same post. Try understanding my point.

LOL, my bad!
I got distracted half way through your post and never got to the rest of it!

[iCEBREAKER]

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\Etherindex LLC Files SEC Prospectus for First Ether-Based ETF

http://www.ethereum.net/news/spotlight/etherindex-llc-files-sec-prospectus-for-first-ether-based-etf

That's fine.

We'll make an ETH Classic ETF.

Sounds like a job for MPEX!

So what's next for ethereum? Dao and smart contracts are dead. How will you continue the shitcoin pump?

Maybe they could use smart contracts and DAOs to build a "better" soda machine.  It's working great for Dash, even John McAfee was impressed with such "awesome technology."   

[alienesb]

Just saw the notice on Coinbase so it's official.

[noobtrader]

...
Kind of like when a bank accidentally deposits money into the wrong account, and they roll back the transaction. If you withdrew the money you get charged, etc.

Isn't Ether supposed to be different? I thought we weren't able to do this with crypto. I thought cryptocurrencies were supposed to be different than banks.

Ether proved me wrong.

No need to prove anything, you are wrong. Banks do not declare all transactions are law (IE set in stone) in their mission statement. ETH-F has broken many fundamentals it originally stated as unchangeable and has therefore broken it's contract.

You don't have to like it but it is fact. Denying it won't make it change.

ETH-F should start a new thread anyway and lock the old one just for the fact the original thread clearly proves they did not adhere to their stated goals. Duh

Did you even understand my point? You're arguing with me but agreeing with me in the same post. Try understanding my point.

LOL, my bad!
I got distracted half way through your post and never got to the rest of it!

wow what a typical monero holder trolling each other LOLLL

[Perryl]

...
Kind of like when a bank accidentally deposits money into the wrong account, and they roll back the transaction. If you withdrew the money you get charged, etc.

Isn't Ether supposed to be different? I thought we weren't able to do this with crypto. I thought cryptocurrencies were supposed to be different than banks.

Ether proved me wrong.

No need to prove anything, you are wrong. Banks do not declare all transactions are law (IE set in stone) in their mission statement. ETH-F has broken many fundamentals it originally stated as unchangeable and has therefore broken it's contract.

You don't have to like it but it is fact. Denying it won't make it change.

ETH-F should start a new thread anyway and lock the old one just for the fact the original thread clearly proves they did not adhere to their stated goals. Duh

Did you even understand my point? You're arguing with me but agreeing with me in the same post. Try understanding my point.

LOL, my bad!
I got distracted half way through your post and never got to the rest of it!

It's cool. Glad we can see eye to eye now.

[Hueristic]

So on the next fork should it be called ETH-F2?

I think we need to decide on a standard fork version naming scheme. It's going to get confusing.

Maybe a designation for each organization that demands the fork?

Like

ETH-F1.DAO.1
ETH-F1.DAO.2
ETH-F2.FBI.1
ETH-F3.ICPO.1
ETH-F4.IMF.1


Whats the World Bank designation?