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February 19, 2014, 10:41:08 PM |
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Hi guys... total newbie here for Eligius.
Is the "Estimated Earnings" not working well right now? A
Seems fine to me, what is it showing that you think is wrong? I'm also finding the stats have quite a lot more 'variance' than normal. They seem to be reporting a lot lower hashrate than they 'should' IMHO. I think this would have an effect on the estimate earnings as it comes from the 3hr stat.
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February 19, 2014, 10:47:27 PM |
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People are loving the zero percent fee ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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TRN1062
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February 20, 2014, 06:18:04 AM |
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Hi,
I have a problem maybe someone here can help me with. I am running 9 Antminer u1's and I am now sure my issues should not be power related as I have 8 of them running on two separate hubs (5 , 3) I have powered the hubs using a 12V 30A regulated power supply. I have run 5 of these ants on the 9 port hub I now have the 5 on before and they ran for days straight with no issues cranking out 2ghs each. I know one of my ants throws HW errors at the 2gh clock rate so that was running on a different PC at 1.8ghs so at that time I was running just under 12ghs. I have since added the other 3 Ants and now I am having troubles I know the 9 port hub can run the 5 ants and the artec breeze fan without issues and I know the other (7port) hub can run the other 3 without issue but yet if I run both hubs on the same computer the rig keeps shutting down. It will run fine for a while cranking out 17+ghs but after a bit suddenly it dumps the queued work and shuts down, slowly decreasing ghs over time. I am logging the mining output and have captured the log with debugging enabled but I do not know how to decipher what exactly is happening. All I can see is that at some point the program (BFGminer 3.10) suddenly dumps all the queued work as stale and does not reload the queue.
If anyone can help me I would appreciate it as I only have one fan and if I put the 3 on the other PC they get really hot and the error rate goes way up... not to mention I have to run them at a slower speed.
T.
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davebodger
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February 20, 2014, 02:02:41 PM |
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Hi, I have a problem maybe someone here can help me with. I am running 9 Antminer u1's and I am now sure my issues should not be power related as I have 8 of them running on two separate hubs (5 , 3) I have powered the hubs using a 12V 30A regulated power supply. I have run 5 of these ants on the 9 port hub I now have the 5 on before and they ran for days straight with no issues cranking out 2ghs each. I know one of my ants throws HW errors at the 2gh clock rate so that was running on a different PC at 1.8ghs so at that time I was running just under 12ghs. I have since added the other 3 Ants and now I am having troubles I know the 9 port hub can run the 5 ants and the artec breeze fan without issues and I know the other (7port) hub can run the other 3 without issue but yet if I run both hubs on the same computer the rig keeps shutting down. It will run fine for a while cranking out 17+ghs but after a bit suddenly it dumps the queued work and shuts down, slowly decreasing ghs over time. I am logging the mining output and have captured the log with debugging enabled but I do not know how to decipher what exactly is happening. All I can see is that at some point the program (BFGminer 3.10) suddenly dumps all the queued work as stale and does not reload the queue. If anyone can help me I would appreciate it as I only have one fan and if I put the 3 on the other PC they get really hot and the error rate goes way up... not to mention I have to run them at a slower speed. T. Still trying to earn some coins to purchase a REAL mining rig!
I'm not sure if my experience exactly tallies but I had a similar problem with two powered hubs full of block erupters plugged into a Raspberry Pi B. Kept shutting down for no readily apparent reason. Eventually I daisy chained the second hub off the first, so there was only one connection to the Pi and all was sweetness and light. Might be worth a try?
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February 20, 2014, 03:28:20 PM |
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Hi, I have a problem maybe someone here can help me with. I am running 9 Antminer u1's and I am now sure my issues should not be power related as I have 8 of them running on two separate hubs (5 , 3) I have powered the hubs using a 12V 30A regulated power supply. I have run 5 of these ants on the 9 port hub I now have the 5 on before and they ran for days straight with no issues cranking out 2ghs each. I know one of my ants throws HW errors at the 2gh clock rate so that was running on a different PC at 1.8ghs so at that time I was running just under 12ghs. I have since added the other 3 Ants and now I am having troubles I know the 9 port hub can run the 5 ants and the artec breeze fan without issues and I know the other (7port) hub can run the other 3 without issue but yet if I run both hubs on the same computer the rig keeps shutting down. It will run fine for a while cranking out 17+ghs but after a bit suddenly it dumps the queued work and shuts down, slowly decreasing ghs over time. I am logging the mining output and have captured the log with debugging enabled but I do not know how to decipher what exactly is happening. All I can see is that at some point the program (BFGminer 3.10) suddenly dumps all the queued work as stale and does not reload the queue. If anyone can help me I would appreciate it as I only have one fan and if I put the 3 on the other PC they get really hot and the error rate goes way up... not to mention I have to run them at a slower speed. T. Still trying to earn some coins to purchase a REAL mining rig!
I'm not sure if my experience exactly tallies but I had a similar problem with two powered hubs full of block erupters plugged into a Raspberry Pi B. Kept shutting down for no readily apparent reason. Eventually I daisy chained the second hub off the first, so there was only one connection to the Pi and all was sweetness and light. Might be worth a try? You hit the nail on the head, I solved a lot of failures and other problems by using a basic low power USB2.x hub as the central place to plug in my Orico USB2.0 hubs that seem to power 7 BEs or ANTs each. Keep in mind you can only reliable daisy chain about 5 levels deep. So here is the typical scenario: PC Mobo built in USB hub (1st level) - this one tends to have a lot of internal items like memory card readers and stuff connected PC Mobo built in USB2 and/or USB3 hub(s) (2nd level) - these are the external ports User supplied USB hub (3rd&4th level) - central hub all other hubs plug into... those 7+ port low PSU power hubs are good for this User supplied USB mining hub (5th+ level) - these are the high quality hubs with good high AMPerage PSUs that we plug our miners into. This is basically my setup and runs very reliably off of a 8 year old laptop. If you want to read more on this, this guy writes a good deal about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=413406
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February 20, 2014, 11:08:43 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2ugiel0.png&t=665&c=mcVgj_ovv-UllA) If only it was like this more often. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's pulled me from the mid94s for shares rewarded up to a little bit over 96%.
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February 20, 2014, 11:34:55 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2ugiel0.png&t=665&c=mcVgj_ovv-UllA) If only it was like this more often. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's pulled me from the mid94s for shares rewarded up to a little bit over 96%. 8 out of 10. Crazy!
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February 20, 2014, 11:50:48 PM |
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Yay! the last 15 blocks have been better than 100% luck. We need more of this ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 21, 2014, 01:29:21 AM |
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don't worry knc will add more power ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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February 21, 2014, 02:23:34 AM |
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Can we get a manual payment to catch things up. I'm currently 26 blocks away from being paid again.
Thanks, James
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February 21, 2014, 06:37:14 AM |
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Can we get a manual payment to catch things up. I'm currently 26 blocks away from being paid again.
Thanks, James
I'm sure wizkid will get to it eventually, he does it once a week usually. But you do know that being 26 blocks away still means that you'll be payed out today? It is not -that- a problem, is'nt it? (I don't want to sound mean. I just don't think that it is worth stressing wizkid with. And an happy wizkid means an happy pool. He is working on new features i'm eager to see!)
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February 21, 2014, 06:59:34 AM |
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Can we get a manual payment to catch things up. I'm currently 26 blocks away from being paid again.
Thanks, James
I'm sure wizkid will get to it eventually, he does it once a week usually. But you do know that being 26 blocks away still means that you'll be payed out today? It is not -that- a problem, is'nt it? (I don't want to sound mean. I just don't think that it is worth stressing wizkid with. And an happy wizkid means an happy pool. He is working on new features i'm eager to see!) Not sure if you're aware that Giga ran a successful pool for a long time. He and Wiz are well acquainted. In general, you're right on the money, but in this instance I believe they are personal friends.
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February 21, 2014, 09:53:40 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2ugiel0.png&t=665&c=mcVgj_ovv-UllA) If only it was like this more often. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's pulled me from the mid94s for shares rewarded up to a little bit over 96%. I went from 90% to 94% Still low, but comes close to earnings in a PPLNS pool.
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February 21, 2014, 05:54:26 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2ugiel0.png&t=665&c=mcVgj_ovv-UllA) If only it was like this more often. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's pulled me from the mid94s for shares rewarded up to a little bit over 96%. I went from 90% to 94% Still low, but comes close to earnings in a PPLNS pool. Bad luck will produce bad returns on any pool, regardless of payout method (except PPS). For a long time I was above 99% on eligius, although now I'm down below 97%
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baddw
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February 21, 2014, 08:13:55 PM |
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Bad luck will produce bad returns on any pool, regardless of payout method (except PPS).
For a long time I was above 99% on eligius, although now I'm down below 97%
This is true. It seems as though a pool based on PPLNS would only calculate payout percentage based on blocks rewards actually received (although the PPLNS pools I've seen don't actually show this figure). Eligius shows payout percentage based on theoretical pure PPS earnings with 100% luck (i.e. the pool receives block rewards exactly at the rate of statistical expectation).
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BTC/XCP 11596GYYq5WzVHoHTmYZg4RufxxzAGEGBX DRK XvFhRFQwvBAmFkaii6Kafmu6oXrH4dSkVF Eligius Payouts/CPPSRB Explained I am not associated with Eligius in any way. I just think that it is a good pool with a cool payment system ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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un_ordinateur
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February 21, 2014, 08:28:32 PM |
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Bad luck will produce bad returns on any pool, regardless of payout method (except PPS).
For a long time I was above 99% on eligius, although now I'm down below 97%
This is true. It seems as though a pool based on PPLNS would only calculate payout percentage based on blocks rewards actually received (although the PPLNS pools I've seen don't actually show this figure). Eligius shows payout percentage based on theoretical pure PPS earnings with 100% luck (i.e. the pool receives block rewards exactly at the rate of statistical expectation). One can see the CPPSRB as a modified PPLNS: Just like PPLNS, each time a block is found, Eligius goes back "n" shares and pays them. The difference is that in PPLNS, if the pool is lucky, some shares might be payed multiple times. In CPPSRB, once a shared is payed, it is removed, and can never be payed again; then if the pool is lucky, it simply goes even more furthe back until an unpayed share is found.
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February 23, 2014, 04:06:41 PM |
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Hi everyone! Hope all is well. Things have been running pretty smoothly here with the pool. This weekend and the preceding couple of days have been pretty ridiculously hectic IRL on my end (I think I've driven > 1500 miles since Thursday and I haven't even left the state), but I had actually just finished some nice tweaks to my internal monitoring setup for Eligius which makes sure I can keep things running well from anywhere pretty easily. ... I actually thought my monitoring system was broken at one point because I never got a single alert until ~last night when one server had unusually high load... which corrected itself by the time I looked into it more closely. Appeared to be a network hiccup that caused some folks to reconnect. Anyway, I expect my schedule to clear up within the next couple of days, and I'm probably going to be taking a short (maybe long...) vacation from my non-Eligius responsibilities soon, which will give me more time to catch up on much wanted updates to various things. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) -wk
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February 23, 2014, 04:32:42 PM |
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Quick question, I've just been informed that eligius only accepts one non-fee paying transaction per block. Is this true?
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February 23, 2014, 11:01:16 PM |
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If I am not set up to accept the NMC I generate, do they go to the pool/wiz? If so, what percent of a donation does that equate to? I really like the Eligius pool and the dedication that Wiz puts into making it so awesome. The no fees are a great part of why I use this pool. It allows me the flexibility to donate what I feel the service is worth. Other pools that charge a fee offer things like a desktop app that I don't want to use, but I feel like I am paying for those things anyway.
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