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June 02, 2015, 08:01:06 AM |
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This is where I think many people in the community are failing to understand in terms of the size of these criminal gangs and the reach of their operations. Scrypt.cc alone has over 30,000 btc go through https://blockchain.info/address/1HWqsgnSd12Gv8SpoUMi1Cj8hp79BTSpW7 there is no reason to believe it is just this user 'Admin' who supposedly lives in Brazil and has multiple DC's with millions of dollars worth of scrypt ASIC miners but can't put together a decent website or cope with support tickets in any reasonable time frame or, for that matter, do *anything* to prove 'he' is even in possession of that much hashrate. Multi-million-dollar scams have every reason, however, to make sure there are 'review' sites that their 'marks' can visit to see they are totallynotscamright? The Ukrainian criminal gang who are also running cloudmining.website are the same ones running scrypt.cc and most likely a number of other ops, particularly those which were shorter-term in operation but featured on ccmonitor.com as 'paying' for a period of time until they folded. As I said, clever tactic, steal money with a short-term scam and then use the longer-running ops to 'prove' to the poor sucker they'd be better off investing in this totallynotascam scheme.
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June 02, 2015, 08:18:36 AM |
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That's interesting. 30,000 BTC is a staggering amount. How did you come to the conclusion that it's a Ukranian syndicate?
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June 02, 2015, 08:27:45 AM |
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You know, something kinda interesting: I posted some critical comments about scrypt.cc on a few review sites. They weren't just random, "this is a scam." It was more of the same stuff about how to analyze a particular coin's profitability and all that. With references and links. They never made it out of moderation. I tried again, same thing. I couldn't believe it. They may have no association with scrypt.cc. Most review sites are just there to generate referrals so maybe they just didn't want anything toob negative. But either way, I was like, I'm actually being censored. It was really eye-opening.
Review sites using referral links are just as shameless scammers as the scams they are advertising. Even the simple fact that a site uses those reff links in or after review clearly shows that they are either paid shills or don't care at all about professional journalism.
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June 02, 2015, 08:34:45 AM |
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That's interesting. 30,000 BTC is a staggering amount. How did you come to the conclusion that it's a Ukranian syndicate?
Well they can't keep their hatred of Russia out of their naming convention for starters! Somebody made a very pertinent observation which would also support my fears that there is a larger group of 'cloud mining' ponzi operators who are offering a revolving-door of shorter term scams alongside their longer-running ponzis because, after all, what better way to show how your long-running ponzi *must* be legit by ripping a load of bitcoin off suckers in the short term as well, through a re-skinned operation which you can then slate and encourage those who lost money in to join the 'legit' cloud mining operation, right? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843417.520Those transactions show that CMW is funnelling money to Eobot. If there was just 1 such transaction, that could be put down to an accident. When a third of the transactions from the very first payout involve money being funnelled to Eobot, that can only be deliberate.
The fact you refuse to acknowledge that just makes you seem like you are involved in this scam. The fact you actively defend this proven scam of a company make that involvement seem far more likely.
So, RussianRainbow/SpanishSoldier/GermanGiant, are you involved in the operation of this scam?
Given that RuusianRainbow/GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier left me negative feedback for providing evidence of CMW funnelling funds to Eobot and his rabid defence of CMW, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he's the operator of this scam.
It would appear there is sufficient reason to suspect multiple scam operations are being promoted at many levels, short term, medium term, etc. Along with the usual vitriol and hatred being spewed by their shills/fanboys in threads where legitimate questions are being asked. [edit] Actually, I recall this which would also support the claim SpanishSoldier is promoting a slew of scams: Whales are spreading their investment among different cloud mining companies, which will never be reflected on the Top list. Because, the whales know thumb rule of investment - Do not keep all the balls in the same basket. Because, as was pointed out in reply, no 'whale' worth his coins would touch 'cloud mining' ponzi schemes with a bargepole. It is simply a way to get newbies to believe that if they spread their 'investment' across a range of these operations then one of them will bound to be the one which makes them rich, right? Just to add to the collection of reasons to suspect SpanishSoldier/GermanGiant/RussianRainbow as being directly connected to cmmonitor.com and, by default, part of the scrypt.cc scam: Domain Name: CMMONITOR.COM Registrar: INTERNET INVEST, LTD. DBA IMENA.UA Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1112 Whois Server: whois.imena.ua Referral URL: http://www.imena.uaName Server: NSA1.SRV53.COM Name Server: NSA1.SRV53.ORG Name Server: NSA4.SRV53.NET Name Server: NSB3.SRV53.COM Name Server: NSB3.SRV53.NET Name Server: NSB4.SRV53.ORG Name Server: NSC1.SRV53.COM Name Server: NSC4.SRV53.NET Name Server: NSC4.SRV53.ORG Name Server: NSD2.SRV53.NET Name Server: NSD3.SRV53.ORG Name Server: NSD4.SRV53.COM Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibitedUpdated Date: 12-jan-2015 Creation Date: 01-nov-2014 Expiration Date: 01-nov-2015 Now, given the delicate nature of the relationship between Ukraine and Russia, I'd be fairly confident in asserting that the sockpuppet account 'RussianRainbow' is meant to imply some sort of homophobic slur against the Russians, especially considering SpanishSoldier and GermanGiant are all clearly masculine, macho names. The above shows that the triplet of users mentioned are active in various 'cloud mining' threads, both supporting the scam while abusing anybody who asks 'difficult' questions, as well as their frequent citing of cmmonitor.com as an 'independent' reviewer which, as was already discovered by the above user back in January, are anything but.
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June 02, 2015, 10:06:57 AM |
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My KHS become negative and in order (action) cant use cancel...the trading board and in order was stuck !!! can any one experiencing same as mine??
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ilic
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June 02, 2015, 11:50:10 AM |
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Hmmm, i'm quite sure that the owners of scrypt.cc are not Ukrainian but are in fact a master race of giant space ants. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords...who bring with them copious amounts of bitcoins.
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June 02, 2015, 12:11:00 PM |
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Hmmm, i'm quite sure that the owners of scrypt.cc are not Ukrainian but are in fact a master race of giant space ants. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords...who bring with them copious amounts of bitcoins.
Well, given previous profanity-peppered rants about how your beloved scrypt.cc doesn't need more customers because they've sold all their hashpower, followed up with your swing-and-a-miss justification for the continued use of referral bonuses, whereby you utterly failed to account for the fact that the function of the referral bonus is to get their current 'investors' to dupe more 'marks' into bringing fresh capital into the bottom of the scam, it doesn't surprise me to see you dismiss valid reason-based assertions as to the actual truth about these ponzi schemes with nothing more substantial than the equivalent of saying 'pffffft to you!' Well done, ilic, superb response, bravo.
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ilic
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June 02, 2015, 12:17:56 PM |
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Hmmm, i'm quite sure that the owners of scrypt.cc are not Ukrainian but are in fact a master race of giant space ants. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords...who bring with them copious amounts of bitcoins.
Well, given previous profanity-peppered rants about how your beloved scrypt.cc doesn't need more customers because they've sold all their hashpower, followed up with your swing-and-a-miss justification for the continued use of referral bonuses, whereby you utterly failed to account for the fact that the function of the referral bonus is to get their current 'investors' to dupe more 'marks' into bringing fresh capital into the bottom of the scam, it doesn't surprise me to see you dismiss valid reason-based assertions as to the actual truth about these ponzi schemes with nothing more substantial than the equivalent of saying 'pffffft to you!' Well done, ilic, superb response, bravo. you're a tool. what's the fuking point, you dumb shits are now screaming that all the cloudmining sites are all linked and run by the same fuking spanish, gay russian kgb mafia or whatever the fuk. What does it fuking matter what I say, you keep regurgitating the same bullshit arguments again and again??? If you don't want to invest, go fuck yourself because I doubt anybody else will want to. To everyone else, invest....don't invest do whatever the fuck you want. You're all adults, make a decision and run with it instead of standing around with your dicks in your hand. If scrypt.cc shuts down tonight then so be it, i lose a few thousand dollars. Boo fuking hoo, atleast I wouldn't have to read the same bullshit from you-know-who anymore. why do i even read this fuking thread anymore. Happy now? You made me swear like a mother fuker again!
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June 02, 2015, 12:30:31 PM |
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Well, given previous profanity-peppered rants about how your beloved scrypt.cc doesn't need more customers because they've sold all their hashpower, followed up with your swing-and-a-miss justification for the continued use of referral bonuses, whereby you utterly failed to account for the fact that the function of the referral bonus is to get their current 'investors' to dupe more 'marks' into bringing fresh capital into the bottom of the scam, it doesn't surprise me to see you dismiss valid reason-based assertions as to the actual truth about these ponzi schemes with nothing more substantial than the equivalent of saying 'pffffft to you!'
Well done, ilic, superb response, bravo. [/quote]
you're a tool.
what's the fuking point, you dumb shits are now screaming that all the cloudmining sites are all linked and run by the same fuking spanish, gay russian kgb mafia or whatever the fuk. What does it fuking matter what I say, you keep regurgitating the same bullshit arguments again and again???
If you don't want to invest, go fuck yourself because I doubt anybody else will want to.
To everyone else, invest....don't invest do whatever the fuck you want. You're all adults, make a decision and run with it instead of standing around with your dicks in your hand.
If scrypt.cc shuts down tonight then so be it, i lose a few thousand dollars. Boo fuking hoo, atleast I wouldn't have to read the same bullshit from you-know-who anymore.
why do i even read this fuking thread anymore.
Happy now? You made me swear like a mother fuker again! [/quote] somebody block this ilic ore illchick stop fronting,,,,scrypt.cc is a scam ....period !!!!!!!!!!!! just a matter of time till they pull the plugg,,,to much diss satisfied customers that lost all at scrypt,,,so ilic keep on defending your scam,,,you are probably 1 of the people involved
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June 02, 2015, 12:33:37 PM |
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you're a tool.
what's the fuking point, you dumb shits are now screaming that all the cloudmining sites are all linked and run by the same fuking spanish, gay russian kgb mafia or whatever the fuk. What does it fuking matter what I say, you keep regurgitating the same bullshit arguments again and again???
If you don't want to invest, go fuck yourself because I doubt anybody else will want to.
To everyone else, invest....don't invest do whatever the fuck you want. You're all adults, make a decision and run with it instead of standing around with your dicks in your hand.
If scrypt.cc shuts down tonight then so be it, i lose a few thousand dollars. Boo fuking hoo, atleast I wouldn't have to read the same bullshit from you-know-who anymore.
why do i even read this fuking thread anymore.
Happy now? You made me swear like a mother fuker again!
No *you're* a tool! LMAO! This is fun. Anyhoo, I didn't say they all were run by the same gang, I said there was reasonable evidence that a group of cloud mining scams were all run by the same criminal gang. It's a popular enterprise in this industry, although some of the new boys clearly are having a hard time getting started because now people are more inclined to demand proof of legitimacy from the operators before they accept their blanket claims of 'trustuswearenotponzi' pinky-pwomises.
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June 02, 2015, 12:58:32 PM |
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Any noobs looking to sign up should refer me and I'll answer all your questions about the operation. Referral link my signature, thanks!
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ilic
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June 02, 2015, 01:23:03 PM |
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Any noobs looking to sign up should refer me and I'll answer all your questions about the operation. Referral link my signature, thanks!
unless you got pictures of you standing in a Brazilian data centre with 850 ghash worth of asics standing next to a man named Marcelo holding his passport verifying the name and holding a newspaper with todays date then I dont think you'll have any answers that will satisfy the band of trolls posting on this thread.
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Roquene
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June 02, 2015, 01:30:41 PM |
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Your obsession with this subject has something compulsive. Is there really nothing else with which you want to fill your life? That would be sad. And I'm serious. All day sitting in this forum. Always write the same again. Always be wrong again. You like to watch when others fail. Prepares you it really such a big time entertainment? That has something sadistic. You are not a member of Scrypt.cc, right? You said your opinion. More than once. Then why tarry here? We understood it. You think it's rip off. We have another opinion. Accept it and go thy way forth. We know the risk we take. We make it willingly. We are not children. We are not idiots. We dispense with your presence. You're just a nuisance. Unnecessary existence with senseless behavior. Not really worth the attention. I'll ignore you again now. And I ask everyone else to do the same. This thread is open to creative criticism, beginners questions and information about server problems. Not for the absurd conspiracy theories of a control freak.
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June 02, 2015, 01:36:55 PM |
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Any noobs looking to sign up should refer me and I'll answer all your questions about the operation. Referral link my signature, thanks!
unless you got pictures of you standing in a Brazilian data centre with 850 ghash worth of asics standing next to a man named Marcelo holding his passport verifying the name and holding a newspaper with todays date then I dont think you'll have any answers that will satisfy the band of trolls posting on this thread. OR, now here's an idea you don't want to think about, how about publishing the LTC blockchain addresses of the litecoins earned from freshly mined blocks? Sure, I know you want to claim they are mining other alts but the realities are that very few alts pay more than directly mining litecoin and, even then, they simply do not have the network hashrate to support the idea that any part of this, claimed, massive ASIC farm is pointed in their direction, so the vast majority of that 850GH would actually need to be mining LTC. There is no excuse not to prove that blocks are being freshly mined with their hardware.
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June 02, 2015, 01:37:10 PM |
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SHUT IT ....U ARE PART OF SCRYPT>CC ATTACKING PEOPLE that give crittics
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June 02, 2015, 01:38:47 PM |
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You are not a member of Scrypt.cc, right? You said your opinion. More than once. Then why tarry here? We understood it. You think it's rip off. We have another opinion. Accept it and go thy way forth. Hahaha! Are you from the 18th Century or something? BTW and FYI, your complaint is duly noted and ignored.
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June 02, 2015, 01:58:46 PM |
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June 1st came and went. Rewards raised very nicely. KHS up 170 points in 36 hours. Today's Scrypt.CC 16th birthday. It's always teh end here
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June 02, 2015, 02:11:01 PM Last edit: June 02, 2015, 03:00:04 PM by BTC Buddy |
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Seems the end is coming near. Never had any problems with scrypt.cc during the whole electricity problem. Bought and sold, deposits and withdraws worked fine.
Greed took me back to the well one more time on the 31st and I deposited .4 btc. Hasn't shown up in my account no answer from support ( 2 tickets).
Buyer beware, the cards seem to be wavering.
**UPDATE** Low an behold deposit has shown up minutes after posting here. Albeit 2.5 days late.
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My dog ate the rewards
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June 02, 2015, 02:21:15 PM |
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Seems the end is coming near. Never had any problems with scrypt.cc during the whole electricity problem. Bought and sold, deposits and withdraws worked fine.
Greed took me back to the well one more time on the 31st and I deposited .4 btc. Hasn't shown up in my account no answer from support ( 2 tickets).
Buyer beware, the cards seem to be wavering.
So you created your account for this sole post? Deposits are working fine. Are you getting desperate?
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June 02, 2015, 02:21:40 PM |
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Seems the end is coming near. Never had any problems with scrypt.cc during the whole electricity problem. Bought and sold, deposits and withdraws worked fine.
Greed took me back to the well one more time on the 31st and I deposited .4 btc. Hasn't shown up in my account no answer from support ( 2 tickets).
Buyer beware, the cards seem to be wavering.
this is how they pay other users....steeling deposits and withdrawels and cleaning out accounts...people say no he can take 1000s of btc however 1 big fish gone can take him down...u never here of people getting ripped of for 50.000 or more...you only here the hundreds they take...this is how they can sustain for so long...what about all the people that do not complain and move on... think cryptodevil has it correct with part mining and part ponzi
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