Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread

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Anyway, Liverpool doesn't appear to be in a entirely bad state. A lot of our players got knocked out somewhat early I suppose. Hopefully when the season does start the break from club football has been more helpful than detrimental.

Haaland did not had to wait long to score, and City is up after 10 minutes
Liverpool line-up does not call to expect much from them tonight, and it does seem that they will be pressing much to stay in EFL cup

interesting route for City, they kicked-out Chelsea in R32, now play with Liverpool in R16, and United is waiting winner in QF - while Charlton kicked QPR, Walsall, Stevenage and Brighton to reach QF with Leicester

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[Igebotz]

On man, i was right this Darwin guy is ass, he reminds me so much of Timo Wener, they are always on a good run, being in goal scoring positions, but their conversion rate is just too low. I didn't realize Salah was on the field until after 20 minutes, and I believe we are witnessing MO's final days. Salah is no longer having an impact on the team. If Salah was in those Darwin positions, Liverpool should be three goals up. BTW, great first half.

While other teams are having fun, I have to endure Chelsea Haram for the rest of the season, from Messi strolling through Joško Gvardiol like a piece of cake and Mbappe scoring epic goals to Kai Havertz and Mount missing sitters against some old school boys from Bournemouth high school.... wait, I have to watch Darwin as well.. 

[buwaytress]

Avoiding all value bets till new year except I'm going for underdogs to perform magic. Chelsea and Manutd losing their matches is on the table for me

45/10 it was for Liverpool, and crazy game with 2 goals in 2 minutes after the restart. So it's already a fun night, even though we're behind now heh.

Isn't it going to be in the league's and champions league best interest for Man City and Liverpool not to lose this early into their domestic cups ?

Probably, yeah. And we paid dearly for playing every possible match last season -- but EFL's always been only really taxing on our squad on the finals (and not fully even then). Salah started, as did a few other stalwarts but they're probably playing for match fitness in this game more than anything else. Both sides have their deputy keepers.

Salah 15th goal of the season and first in EFL cup according to commentator, that took me by surprise haha), not bad.

[Harkorede]

Isn't it going to be in the league's and champions league best interest for Man City and Liverpool not to lose this early into their domestic cups ?

Probably, yeah. And we paid dearly for playing every possible match last season -- but EFL's always been only really taxing on our squad on the finals (and not fully even then). Salah started, as did a few other stalwarts but they're probably playing for match fitness in this game more than anything else. Both sides have their deputy keepers.

Salah 15th goal of the season and first in EFL cup according to commentator, that took me by surprise haha), not bad.

It's probably a blessing in disguise for Liverpool have lot the EFL game vs City, but Liverpool didn't even look bad either to have came from behind twice, but I'm not surprised though, as bad as Liverpool have been this season, they've defeated Liverpool twice, so I could pursue my little theory of Liverpool intentionally letting them win this so that Liverpool could less on their plate to handle as the season goes by, I believed Liverpool paid the price for participation in all multiple competitions until the last days, unlike Liverpool, Man City have a better squad depth that could carry them in multiple fronts of all competition, although preparing for that much competition also have its effects on a manager, and all it takes is one wrong game and certain competitions are over, I really can't have Guardiola focused on just the league, that'd be terrible for the sake of competition, imho.

[swogerino]

Isn't it going to be in the league's and champions league best interest for Man City and Liverpool not to lose this early into their domestic cups ?

Probably, yeah. And we paid dearly for playing every possible match last season -- but EFL's always been only really taxing on our squad on the finals (and not fully even then). Salah started, as did a few other stalwarts but they're probably playing for match fitness in this game more than anything else. Both sides have their deputy keepers.

Salah 15th goal of the season and first in EFL cup according to commentator, that took me by surprise haha), not bad.

It's probably a blessing in disguise for Liverpool have lot the EFL game vs City, but Liverpool didn't even look bad either to have came from behind twice, but I'm not surprised though, as bad as Liverpool have been this season, they've defeated Liverpool twice, so I could pursue my little theory of Liverpool intentionally letting them win this so that Liverpool could less on their plate to handle as the season goes by, I believed Liverpool paid the price for participation in all multiple competitions until the last days, unlike Liverpool, Man City have a better squad depth that could carry them in multiple fronts of all competition, although preparing for that much competition also have its effects on a manager, and all it takes is one wrong game and certain competitions are over, I really can't have Guardiola focused on just the league, that'd be terrible for the sake of competition, imho.

I think that Liverpool the maximum it can do is to fight for the Champions League to go as further as possible because as bad as they may be,elimination stage there is just 2 games and any team can play really well in just these two games that will decide their fate in the competition.

In Premier League I think right now they will fight to go back in the top 4 teams which would secure them a place in the Champions League for the next season,this season in Premier League is lost by them as they have already made to many mistakes.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

In Premier League I think right now they will fight to go back in the top 4 teams which would secure them a place in the Champions League for the next season,this season in Premier League is lost by them as they have already made to many mistakes.

I would shake hands on acceptance of finishing 4th this season, no problem. I would definitely be happy with that. Our team needs big money spent on it but we have the cheapest owners around. We need an entire new midfield, Klopp is hamstrung by his employers. I hope the sale of the club happens quickly, it’s painful watching our midfield right now.

[slaman29]

In Premier League I think right now they will fight to go back in the top 4 teams which would secure them a place in the Champions League for the next season,this season in Premier League is lost by them as they have already made to many mistakes.

I would shake hands on acceptance of finishing 4th this season, no problem. I would definitely be happy with that. Our team needs big money spent on it but we have the cheapest owners around. We need an entire new midfield, Klopp is hamstrung by his employers. I hope the sale of the club happens quickly, it’s painful watching our midfield right now.

15 points behind Arsenal to me is not such a big gap, it's City everyone still has to worry about. Arsenal will put doubt in everyone's mind until final few games, whereas City is expected to rarely lose or even draw.

So yes, it is like me last couple of seasons, accepting Barcelona top 4 (and yet they went broke and trying to win it this season, I am still not convinced).

You think you will be another state owned club?

[Igebotz]

In Premier League I think right now they will fight to go back in the top 4 teams which would secure them a place in the Champions League for the next season,this season in Premier League is lost by them as they have already made to many mistakes.

I would shake hands on acceptance of finishing 4th this season, no problem. I would definitely be happy with that. Our team needs big money spent on it but we have the cheapest owners around. We need an entire new midfield, Klopp is hamstrung by his employers. I hope the sale of the club happens quickly, it’s painful watching our midfield right now.

Having wealthy owners does not solve most of the problems if the club's scouting system is poor. Liverpool has one of the best scouting systems in the league, which is why you rarely see any player flop, they always get the right player for Klopp's style of play and it has been he3lpful all these years. That being said, I believe the owners have been putting a good amount of money into transfers in the last three seasons, not to mention they paid 100m pounds for Darwin, i don't think any other EPL club spend that much on a single player in the last transfer.


I had no idea the club was for sale, it was one of those random rumors' news, club sales are a lengthy process because it involves a lot of politics, finding the right guy for the job, and making sure you don't sell to a rival billionaire fan. Every club wishes to have the Saudis because they are the only people who can invest millions of dollars in the team, bring good sponsorships, and ensure the team competes, but biased English politics will prevent this from happening.

Will you prefer a Saudi, an Englishman, or an American?
will you prefer a Saudi, an English man or American for the job?

[buwaytress]

Will you prefer a Saudi, an Englishman, or an American?
will you prefer a Saudi, an English man or American for the job?

I know it's not a question to me but...

...as a non-native supporter, but I hope as a sincere supporter, I've never seen nationality as a prerequisite -- we've had plenty of spiritual Scousers over the years (even poor Benitez, who made the city his home and the attention of his life work). King Dalglish is another prime example, as is Klopp -- true Scousers the Kop hail as their own... never mind the "mini-Scousers" like even Tsimikas and Naby lad show it's never where you come from, but where you put your heart.

That's always applied to players, always applied to managers, and while no Liverpool supporter might ever bestow the same admiration for their owners, they might at least afford the same spirit of respect.

So there's a difference not in who the owners are but how the money comes and what motivations back it. Is the club going to be a play thing for champagne parties like Abramovich? Is it just a trophy wife to brag about at dinners like Venky's when they first bought Blackburn Rovers and aired their players eating fried chicken?

So that's oil money and franchise money from overseas. But do Englishmen fare better? Ask Newcastle about Mike Ashley, who treated talents like Keegan like crap and appointed his own mates to manage the club (not to mention all the tacky stuff he did for his actual business while allowing his club to get relegated, for example renaming St James Park to... Sports Direct Arena). Oil money bought Newcastle but they seem to be learning a lot of lessons... and it doesn't yet appear they're going to treat the club like a toy. Time will tell.

[swogerino]

Will you prefer a Saudi, an Englishman, or an American?
will you prefer a Saudi, an English man or American for the job?

I know it's not a question to me but...

...as a non-native supporter, but I hope as a sincere supporter, I've never seen nationality as a prerequisite -- we've had plenty of spiritual Scousers over the years (even poor Benitez, who made the city his home and the attention of his life work). King Dalglish is another prime example, as is Klopp -- true Scousers the Kop hail as their own... never mind the "mini-Scousers" like even Tsimikas and Naby lad show it's never where you come from, but where you put your heart.

That's always applied to players, always applied to managers, and while no Liverpool supporter might ever bestow the same admiration for their owners, they might at least afford the same spirit of respect.

So there's a difference not in who the owners are but how the money comes and what motivations back it. Is the club going to be a play thing for champagne parties like Abramovich? Is it just a trophy wife to brag about at dinners like Venky's when they first bought Blackburn Rovers and aired their players eating fried chicken?

So that's oil money and franchise money from overseas. But do Englishmen fare better? Ask Newcastle about Mike Ashley, who treated talents like Keegan like crap and appointed his own mates to manage the club (not to mention all the tacky stuff he did for his actual business while allowing his club to get relegated, for example renaming St James Park to... Sports Direct Arena). Oil money bought Newcastle but they seem to be learning a lot of lessons... and it doesn't yet appear they're going to treat the club like a toy. Time will tell.

Even in the country where I am whenever things do not go well for a certain top team,all the supporters immediately point the finger toward the manager when he is a non native but history has shown just like in Liverpool that native coaches did not bode that well compared to their non native counterparts.

I think that it does not mean anything if the man is Saudi,English or American as long as he can bring Liverpool back on track to their glorious days,once this man no matter what nationality has it means that nationality is not at all relevant.

[Harkorede]

Will you prefer a Saudi, an Englishman, or an American?
will you prefer a Saudi, an English man or American for the job?

I know it's not a question to me but...

...as a non-native supporter, but I hope as a sincere supporter, I've never seen nationality as a prerequisite -- we've had plenty of spiritual Scousers over the years (even poor Benitez, who made the city his home and the attention of his life work). King Dalglish is another prime example, as is Klopp -- true Scousers the Kop hail as their own... never mind the "mini-Scousers" like even Tsimikas and Naby lad show it's never where you come from, but where you put your heart.

That's always applied to players, always applied to managers, and while no Liverpool supporter might ever bestow the same admiration for their owners, they might at least afford the same spirit of respect.

So there's a difference not in who the owners are but how the money comes and what motivations back it. Is the club going to be a play thing for champagne parties like Abramovich? Is it just a trophy wife to brag about at dinners like Venky's when they first bought Blackburn Rovers and aired their players eating fried chicken?

So that's oil money and franchise money from overseas. But do Englishmen fare better? Ask Newcastle about Mike Ashley, who treated talents like Keegan like crap and appointed his own mates to manage the club (not to mention all the tacky stuff he did for his actual business while allowing his club to get relegated, for example renaming St James Park to... Sports Direct Arena). Oil money bought Newcastle but they seem to be learning a lot of lessons... and it doesn't yet appear they're going to treat the club like a toy. Time will tell.

To successfully own football team these days requires just not a large pool of funds, neither should it been seen from just a business perspective, because that what brought Arsene Wenger under enormous pressure despite making money for club annually via players transfers, but the fans will never be appreciative of an underperforming club, while they'd not give two fucks how much or little the clubs makes annually in as much they get their bragging rights which is to play decent football, and win important rivalry matches, we've seen a lot of European clubs with household names declined a lot of the past decade and become of little or almost no significance to young kids of foreign countries these, I mean the likes of AC Milan, and Inter Milan only being recently able to appear in the UCL, despite being taken over by rich owners, and Arsenal if not for being in the premier league, they also lost huge relevance to UCL competition, Liverpool have only just gotten that huge relevance back as well after having Klopp in charge, it will be a huge shame to see them fall back to such slumber, because in football it's not everyday you come across a bankroll like that of Manchester City and Manager like that of Guardiola....

[Ulven]

Will you prefer a Saudi, an Englishman, or an American?
will you prefer a Saudi, an English man or American for the job?

I know it's not a question to me but...

...as a non-native supporter, but I hope as a sincere supporter, I've never seen nationality as a prerequisite -- we've had plenty of spiritual Scousers over the years (even poor Benitez, who made the city his home and the attention of his life work). King Dalglish is another prime example, as is Klopp -- true Scousers the Kop hail as their own... never mind the "mini-Scousers" like even Tsimikas and Naby lad show it's never where you come from, but where you put your heart.

That's always applied to players, always applied to managers, and while no Liverpool supporter might ever bestow the same admiration for their owners, they might at least afford the same spirit of respect.

So there's a difference not in who the owners are but how the money comes and what motivations back it. Is the club going to be a play thing for champagne parties like Abramovich? Is it just a trophy wife to brag about at dinners like Venky's when they first bought Blackburn Rovers and aired their players eating fried chicken?

So that's oil money and franchise money from overseas. But do Englishmen fare better? Ask Newcastle about Mike Ashley, who treated talents like Keegan like crap and appointed his own mates to manage the club (not to mention all the tacky stuff he did for his actual business while allowing his club to get relegated, for example renaming St James Park to... Sports Direct Arena). Oil money bought Newcastle but they seem to be learning a lot of lessons... and it doesn't yet appear they're going to treat the club like a toy. Time will tell.

Even in the country where I am whenever things do not go well for a certain top team,all the supporters immediately point the finger toward the manager when he is a non native but history has shown just like in Liverpool that native coaches did not bode that well compared to their non native counterparts.

I think that it does not mean anything if the man is Saudi,English or American as long as he can bring Liverpool back on track to their glorious days,once this man no matter what nationality has it means that nationality is not at all relevant.

It's true that the success of a team is not necessarily tied to the nationality of its manager or leader. It's important to focus on the skills, experience, and abilities of the individual rather than their nationality. It's also worth noting that the success of a team can depend on a variety of factors, including the talent and abilities of the players, the overall strategy and approach of the team, and other external factors such as injuries and luck.

We are 3 days away from the resumption of the EPL, it will be great to watch the matches and enjoy betting on them. Don't forget to set expectations

[casperBGD]

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We are 3 days away from the resumption of the EPL, it will be great to watch the matches and enjoy betting on them. Don't forget to set expectations

yeah, it is probably better to put prediction before weekend, and eventually polish them after, than forget to put them at all after weekend

regarding round, there is no super-interesting matches, few easy to guess wins, that could go either way due to break, and some middle-team fights, no real derby in this round
waiting to see how Everton is going to play after break, should be a month of trainings, Pickford was in Qatar and had good performance, hopefully a clean sheet next week as well

[slaman29]

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We are 3 days away from the resumption of the EPL, it will be great to watch the matches and enjoy betting on them. Don't forget to set expectations

yeah, it is probably better to put prediction before weekend, and eventually polish them after, than forget to put them at all after weekend

regarding round, there is no super-interesting matches, few easy to guess wins, that could go either way due to break, and some middle-team fights, no real derby in this round
waiting to see how Everton is going to play after break, should be a month of trainings, Pickford was in Qatar and had good performance, hopefully a clean sheet next week as well

I definitely have to do this for January games as I will be too busy at office, got the holiday shift and we're not really allowed to do much other than keep on the systems. I find it actually works great sometimes too, when you only make picks without being affected by results and news as those have a way of playing with your psychology!

Everton might do well I believe, but Spurs is probably the team with the most affected main players.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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We are 3 days away from the resumption of the EPL, it will be great to watch the matches and enjoy betting on them. Don't forget to set expectations

yeah, it is probably better to put prediction before weekend, and eventually polish them after, than forget to put them at all after weekend

I already had my picks but revised them a few hours ago. Hopefully Liverpool will restart with a win. We need to be at least in the top 4. Still 23 rounds left so we can hope to improve on the point table. It's hard to race with City but Arsenal and Newcastle will start straggling sooner and later. Premier league needs consistency. City is doing it from years. 

From middle of the January Arsenal will start losing point according to my calculation. They have upcoming matches against Tottenham, Man U, City, Livepool. They will be tested soon. Very similar with Newcastle too but from the middle of February.

[Harkorede]

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We are 3 days away from the resumption of the EPL, it will be great to watch the matches and enjoy betting on them. Don't forget to set expectations

yeah, it is probably better to put prediction before weekend, and eventually polish them after, than forget to put them at all after weekend

I already had my picks but revised them a few hours ago. Hopefully Liverpool will restart with a win. We need to be at least in the top 4. Still 23 rounds left so we can hope to improve on the point table. It's hard to race with City but Arsenal and Newcastle will start straggling sooner and later. Premier league needs consistency. City is doing it from years. 

From middle of the January Arsenal will start losing point according to my calculation. They have upcoming matches against Tottenham, Man U, City, Livepool. They will be tested soon. Very similar with Newcastle too but from the middle of February.

I've not even made my picks yet, I'm still trying to get see what each teams have available, there have been couple of players said to be already injured or have picked up a knock, so I'll just make them later tomorrow after all possible findings and team news, I'm expecting a couple of upset, at least two, but I really don't want to be too forward yet, I'll rather just have them on my picks.

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I've not even made my picks yet, I'm still trying to get see what each teams have available, there have been couple of players said to be already injured or have picked up a knock, so I'll just make them later tomorrow after all possible findings and team news, I'm expecting a couple of upset, at least two, but I really don't want to be too forward yet, I'll rather just have them on my picks.

Argentians could be out till New Year, at least MacAlister, that will be back first match next year for Brighton
yeah, this could the round to catch some surprise, since all teams had more than a month break, and this is almost the same as first round, you never know who keeped up the form, and who will blow

[Harkorede]

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I've not even made my picks yet, I'm still trying to get see what each teams have available, there have been couple of players said to be already injured or have picked up a knock, so I'll just make them later tomorrow after all possible findings and team news, I'm expecting a couple of upset, at least two, but I really don't want to be too forward yet, I'll rather just have them on my picks.

Argentians could be out till New Year, at least MacAlister, that will be back first match next year for Brighton
yeah, this could the round to catch some surprise, since all teams had more than a month break, and this is almost the same as first round, you never know who keeped up the form, and who will blow

I really don't understand what the break would have been for though, because they played a total of 7 games through the course of the world cup, and it could have been more than that if it were to be club side football over that same period, but I'd totally understand in the case of MacAlister and perhaps Alvarez since they both had a huge load of playing time, but given how effective and brilliant they were during the tournament, I see no reason why their respective coaches wouldn't want to capitalise on their form right away, while the confidence is still pretty much over the roof for them.

[casperBGD]

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I really don't understand what the break would have been for though, because they played a total of 7 games through the course of the world cup, and it could have been more than that if it were to be club side football over that same period, but I'd totally understand in the case of MacAlister and perhaps Alvarez since they both had a huge load of playing time, but given how effective and brilliant they were during the tournament, I see no reason why their respective coaches wouldn't want to capitalise on their form right away, while the confidence is still pretty much over the roof for them.

agree, most of them will probably play more matches in EPL and cups than on world cup, but it is due to winning world cup, and they mental preparedness to play at the moment, or at least that is mine point of view
hopefully, they will continue to play like on WC in their respective clubs

not sure what other players will not be with their squads for first round, but that is more on FPL topic, than this one, FPL team will be hard to lock until Monday

[swogerino]

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I've not even made my picks yet, I'm still trying to get see what each teams have available, there have been couple of players said to be already injured or have picked up a knock, so I'll just make them later tomorrow after all possible findings and team news, I'm expecting a couple of upset, at least two, but I really don't want to be too forward yet, I'll rather just have them on my picks.

Argentians could be out till New Year, at least MacAlister, that will be back first match next year for Brighton
yeah, this could the round to catch some surprise, since all teams had more than a month break, and this is almost the same as first round, you never know who keeped up the form, and who will blow

I really don't understand what the break would have been for though, because they played a total of 7 games through the course of the world cup, and it could have been more than that if it were to be club side football over that same period, but I'd totally understand in the case of MacAlister and perhaps Alvarez since they both had a huge load of playing time, but given how effective and brilliant they were during the tournament, I see no reason why their respective coaches wouldn't want to capitalise on their form right away, while the confidence is still pretty much over the roof for them.

I believe they had enough days to recover,as almost 10 days is a good time to be playing the next game and I am also of the opinion that both players performed really well during the World Cup with MacAlister for me performing better as he has had a more difficult job that of a midfielder trying to support the attack while Alvarez just waited as a true attacker the balls to put in the back of the net.I think both players are used to the intensity of the Premier League schedules and so they will be used directly in the upcoming games by their respective coaches.