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February 17, 2020, 10:13:59 PM
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Chelsea fans are crying over the fact that Maguire kicked Batshuayi in the balls yet he wasn't sent off...Did he deserve a red card? Bear in mind that Maguire scored the 2-0

they're unbeaten against Chelsea ever since Ole took the wheel (3W 1D).
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I went for 1:1 in our pool and put some money on Man Utd not to lose and both to score @3.15.
BTTS was so close. Batshuayi was shocking today, VAR disallowed a couple of goals, and then Mount hit the post. Unlucky  Sad

Wait! With a 3 - 0 I think all four will get only 1 point each. Come on Utd! Score another one!! 😜
Ighalo almost scored right in the end  Roll Eyes But I thought he was sidelined because of Coronavirus...hmm.

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February 17, 2020, 10:54:00 PM
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I'm picked, 2:1 Man. Utd to win, I did not expect clean sheet from there. Since only the four of us took points here I must be satisfied  Grin

Chelsea fans are crying over the fact that Maguire kicked Batshuayi in the balls yet he wasn't sent off...Did he deserve a red card? Bear in mind that Maguire scored the 2-0



It's looking very suspicious. everything happened in a moment, but nevertheless intention is possible though I do not believe Maguire was thinking of hurting at that point, It was similar with Son although he got red card.



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February 18, 2020, 08:52:46 AM
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Chelsea fans are crying over the fact that Maguire kicked Batshuayi in the balls yet he wasn't sent off...Did he deserve a red card? Bear in mind that Maguire scored the 2-0

I watched the game. The kick incident was 50/50 to me. At first from the angle shown it didn't look like he did much and maybe he just kept his leg up to avoid a clash, but then from the replays he did extend his leg as if to give a light kick. I've seen players sent off for things like that but it was very light. I'm not sure it was a sending off offence but I suppose you could make the argument that it was technically violent conduct. One thing people were complaining about though was the ref didn't even review via VAR.

It's a real shame about the two disallowed goals. VAR strikes again with someone being an inch offside. I thought the disallowed goal for the push was harsh too. He went down real easy.

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February 18, 2020, 09:10:05 AM
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I watched the game. The kick incident was 50/50 to me. At first from the angle shown it didn't look like he did much and maybe he just kept his leg up to avoid a clash, but then from the replays he did extend his leg as if to give a light kick. I've seen players sent off for things like that but it was very light. I'm not sure it was a sending off offence but I suppose you could make the argument that it was technically violent conduct. One thing people were complaining about though was the ref didn't even review via VAR.

It's a real shame about the two disallowed goals. VAR strikes again with someone being an inch offside. I thought the disallowed goal for the push was harsh too. He went down real easy.
1st, Maguire case. I saw the post match interview and he was asked about this. According to him it was just the natural reflection. If we remember the red card for Son few weeks ago then we will see there was very similar situation but Son was shown red card for that.

2nd, the disallowed first goal. The Chelsea player was in the middle of two Utd defenders (if I am right about it). He was pushed from behind and from natural reflection his hand stopped on the back of the player in front of him. I think referee did not take that in consideration.

Yes, Utd got a clean sheet and won the match but there are questions about refereeing in the match.

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February 18, 2020, 11:19:35 AM
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It's a real shame about the two disallowed goals. VAR strikes again with someone being an inch offside. I thought the disallowed goal for the push was harsh too. He went down real easy.

Inch is still more than zero, such as the rule for all teams. Just remember last season and disallowed Liverpool's goal against MCity (if I remember correctly), few millimetres but at the end, enough for MC to win the title.

2nd, the disallowed first goal. The Chelsea player was in the middle of two Utd defenders (if I am right about it). He was pushed from behind and from natural reflection his hand stopped on the back of the player in front of him. I think referee did not take that in consideration.


Just compares the intensity of pushing Fred to Azpilicueta vs. Azpilicueta to Williams, pushing with both hands give the impression of intention. it seems like a very clear decision by a referee

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February 18, 2020, 04:09:42 PM
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Chelsea could have had a life if they lastest goal stood, but VAR was at the rescue for Man Utd

It's game over already, and it was only just four users who picked Man Utd to win.


Unless there are any goal from Chelsea to make it 2 - 1, I think all 4 will settle with 1.5 points each. If Utd manages to score one more goal then webtricks will need to be happy with 1 point only. But I hope we see the current scoreline after final whistle LOL

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Wait! With a 3 - 0 I think all four will get only 1 point each. Come on Utd! Score another one!!

That was close!! I had this instinct that Chelsea will have lots of chances but won't score any goal especially due to Batshuayi factor, guy can miss a goal from 5 yards literally. No wonder why he's second to Tammy.

But Chelsea really played well yesterday. I only watched first half since it was already 2:15 AM at my place but Chelsea played equally well in second half, especially two strikes from Mason Mount. However, my instinct got it right and Chelsea failed to convert any goal (although that Giroud one should have been given, offside rule shouldn't be that rude).

Chelsea fans are crying over the fact that Maguire kicked Batshuayi in the balls yet he wasn't sent off...Did he deserve a red card?

That was really cheeky from Maguire. It can be clearly seen that he intentionally raised second leg however, it did no harm. Batshuayi tried to make a heck out of it but he just got up and literally starting walking after 20 seconds like nothing happened. I don't think that was cardable offense at all. VAR was right.   

Bear in mind that Maguire scored the 2-0

More importantly, he was solid in defense. I think Man Utd could easily give away 2-3 goals if Maguire was sent off.
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February 18, 2020, 06:04:22 PM
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I watched the game. The kick incident was 50/50 to me. At first from the angle shown it didn't look like he did much and maybe he just kept his leg up to avoid a clash, but then from the replays he did extend his leg as if to give a light kick. I've seen players sent off for things like that but it was very light. I'm not sure it was a sending off offence but I suppose you could make the argument that it was technically violent conduct. One thing people were complaining about though was the ref didn't even review via VAR.

It's a real shame about the two disallowed goals. VAR strikes again with someone being an inch offside. I thought the disallowed goal for the push was harsh too. He went down real easy.
1st, Maguire case. I saw the post match interview and he was asked about this. According to him it was just the natural reflection. If we remember the red card for Son few weeks ago then we will see there was very similar situation but Son was shown red card for that.

Well of course he's going to say that. He's not going to admit to violent conduct and suggest he should have been sent off Grin. The Son situation is very similar but a bit different. He blatantly kicked out at someone in frustration. Son's was worse and more clear cut in m,y opinion.

2nd, the disallowed first goal. The Chelsea player was in the middle of two Utd defenders (if I am right about it). He was pushed from behind and from natural reflection his hand stopped on the back of the player in front of him. I think referee did not take that in consideration.

Yeah, momentum is never taken into consideration either. A similar thing happened for Real Madrid a while back. I can't remember what game it was but a player struggled to stop and clashed into Marcelo and knocked him over and the goal that was scored after was disallowed because of it. It was ridiculous.

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Yeah, momentum is never taken into consideration either. A similar thing happened for Real Madrid a while back. I can't remember what game it was but a player struggled to stop and clashed into Marcelo and knocked him over and the goal that was scored after was disallowed because of it. It was ridiculous.

I think you are talking about the champions league game between Real Madrid and PSG. Although it wasn't a goal but red card to Courtois and penalty to PSG. But later on VAR ruled out the card and penalty and Real got free-kick due to Gueye foul on Marcelo in build-up near half-way line.
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Yeah, momentum is never taken into consideration either. A similar thing happened for Real Madrid a while back. I can't remember what game it was but a player struggled to stop and clashed into Marcelo and knocked him over and the goal that was scored after was disallowed because of it. It was ridiculous.

I think you are talking about the champions league game between Real Madrid and PSG. Although it wasn't a goal but red card to Courtois and penalty to PSG. But later on VAR ruled out the card and penalty and Real got free-kick due to Gueye foul on Marcelo in build-up near half-way line.

Yeah, that was it. I was flabbergasted by that, especially when I didn't think it was a foul and any rational person can see what happened. I can't wait for the time a player punches someone in the face but VAR finds a foul earlier in the build up and then has no option but to rescind the card  Grin and the player gets away with a free punch. I mean, it's not a foul right if VAR says otherwise  Cheesy? It really annoys me when they pull things back like that. Unless UEFA can invent a time machine play should stop whilst they make the decision. Or just not bother with it if the ref hasn't called it.

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February 19, 2020, 05:49:19 PM
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Don't forget there's a sneaky PL game on tonight. Man city v West Ham. Can't say I'm bothered by this game or the other two Champion's League fixtures today and City should win comfortably, but the City game might be worth watching to see if the West Ham fans are chanting anything about their ban haha. I'm sure there'll be some boos or 'cheat' chanting. The Leicester/City game on the weekend could be a big one. Definitely one I'll be watching.

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February 19, 2020, 08:19:04 PM
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@hilarious

The CL games tonight are really dull, I watched the first 5 mins of the Spurs games & turned over. Next weeks games are much better, on paper at least.

Man City 1-0 W Ham at HT right now too.

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February 19, 2020, 09:54:57 PM
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The CL games tonight are really dull, I watched the first 5 mins of the Spurs games & turned over. Next weeks games are much better, on paper at least.

Man City 1-0 W Ham at HT right now too.
Now Match is already end with in favour of Man City 2 - 0 just four members in Pool with full points and Spurs trailing by 0 - 1 as match is enter in injury time I am feeling without Kane and Son Spurs is just crap they are going not good in next matches.
Atlanta ruined Valencia by 4 - 1 which is really good as now they have some good advantage.
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February 20, 2020, 11:10:37 AM
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So Pep addressed the city situation after the West Ham game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqKVY-2-8kw

He said he will stay with City until they sack him so that's respectable. He even apparently said that he would stay with City even if they were relegated to the second division. Now that's something I would like to see  Grin. It's going to be interesting seeing what does happen with this situation. There's obviously going to be a long legal battle as City appeal. I don't know the full extent of the shenanigans that they were involved with but I think there should be some serious repercussions for teams that purposely break the rules and try hide it, and it shouldn't be limited to fines either. I think they should start docking points or even relegating teams. That would send a clear message that it's not going to be tolerated and I doubt any club will even try it after that.

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The CL games tonight are really dull, I watched the first 5 mins of the Spurs games & turned over. Next weeks games are much better, on paper at least.

Man City 1-0 W Ham at HT right now too.

Yeah, I had no interest in them. Roll on next week.

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February 20, 2020, 11:13:20 AM
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Come on Toke! How do you manage all those correct score. If I step one forward you move two 🤪
Only 11 more rounds to go and I really need few good rounds but seems like I am doing lower than average from long time now. Shit!

Some really tricky matches are on the way in the next round.  We can start with Chelsea vs Tottenham. Will we see another Chelsea disaster like we have seen against Utd?

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February 20, 2020, 11:35:25 AM
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Come on Toke! How do you manage all those correct score. If I step one forward you move two 🤪
Only 11 more rounds to go and I really need few good rounds but seems like I am doing lower than average from long time now. Shit!

Some really tricky matches are on the way in the next round.  We can start with Chelsea vs Tottenham. Will we see another Chelsea disaster like we have seen against Utd?


Yeah, it's getting annoying. Even more so when I'm one goal out and he gets the correct score  Angry. I think Chelsea should win this one, though maybe 1-1 is also a good call. Spurs have won their last three games but aren't playing great really and especially without Kane. Two of the teams they've beat aren't anything to boast about but they did beat Man City three weeks ago. I'll probably go for mostly narrow home wins this round. A couple of draws here and there. The Leicester/City match being one of them, though I hope Leicester win. It's probably the only game I'll watch from this weekend. Anything could happen in that game really.

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February 20, 2020, 11:54:41 AM
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Yeah, it's getting annoying. Even more so when I'm one goal out and he gets the correct score  Angry. I think Chelsea should win this one, though maybe 1-1 is also a good call. Spurs have won their last three games but aren't playing great really and especially without Kane. Two of the teams they've beat aren't anything to boast about but they did beat Man City three weeks ago. I'll probably go for mostly narrow home wins this round. A couple of draws here and there. The Leicester/City match being one of them, though I hope Leicester win. It's probably the only game I'll watch from this weekend. Anything could happen in that game really.
I think yours had 3 - 0 in the City match yesterday. I had 3 - 1 so I was not really even close. The most frustrating is when you pick up 2 - 1 and match ends 2-2 or 1-1 or 1-2. You feel you are close to get a correct score but you end up getting nothing LOL
I need to be brave to go with draw matches.

Both Chelsea and Tottenham are two teams (there are few more: Utd, Arsenal etc) who really are not lucky for me. I lose money when I gamble for them, I end up getting no points or in some cases 1 point when I go with them.
I too expect Chelsea to win this match. In the last match they did not deserve the lose but that's football. Without Kane Tottenham is not playing that bad, I did not expect last few wins for them without him but they proved me wrong.

Leicester! huh!! This team lost their momentum I think. But against City you can not expect much from them though.

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February 20, 2020, 12:06:28 PM
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Come on Toke! How do you manage all those correct score. If I step one forward you move two 🤪
Only 11 more rounds to go and I really need few good rounds but seems like I am doing lower than average from long time now. Shit!

Some really tricky matches are on the way in the next round.  We can start with Chelsea vs Tottenham. Will we see another Chelsea disaster like we have seen against Utd?


toke’s pulling away at the top, you should still get a prize though. We all know & love football, it’s just a bit of luck I guess. There’s a fine line between being close & exact & it makes a difference if you get on a lucky streak.

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Yeah, it's getting annoying. Even more so when I'm one goal out and he gets the correct score  Angry. I think Chelsea should win this one, though maybe 1-1 is also a good call. Spurs have won their last three games but aren't playing great really and especially without Kane. Two of the teams they've beat aren't anything to boast about but they did beat Man City three weeks ago. I'll probably go for mostly narrow home wins this round. A couple of draws here and there. The Leicester/City match being one of them, though I hope Leicester win. It's probably the only game I'll watch from this weekend. Anything could happen in that game really.
I think yours had 3 - 0 in the City match yesterday. I had 3 - 1 so I was not really even close. The most frustrating is when you pick up 2 - 1 and match ends 2-2 or 1-1 or 1-2. You feel you are close to get a correct score but you end up getting nothing LOL
I need to be brave to go with draw matches.

Yeah, I went with 3-0. And yes, the most frustrating ones are when you lose out on any points at all by one goal. Even more so when you go for a risky draw and you're one of the only ones who did. You go from getting a very valuable three points to nothing and other's grow further away in the table. I guess that's the gamble though and you've got to take them with the wins you do get, especially when nobody else goes for them. 

Both Chelsea and Tottenham are two teams (there are few more: Utd, Arsenal etc) who really are not lucky for me. I lose money when I gamble for them, I end up getting no points or in some cases 1 point when I go with them.
I too expect Chelsea to win this match. In the last match they did not deserve the lose but that's football. Without Kane Tottenham is not playing that bad, I did not expect last few wins for them without him but they proved me wrong.

They can't be relied upon now. Certain teams like Man United and Chelsea used to be called 'bankers' as betters and bookies say, but not so much these days. I don't mind playing them on the pool but they're not usually teams I'll be so sure about putting on an accumulator.

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February 20, 2020, 10:43:14 PM
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Come on Toke! How do you manage all those correct score. If I step one forward you move two 🤪
Only 11 more rounds to go and I really need few good rounds but seems like I am doing lower than average from long time now. Shit!

Some really tricky matches are on the way in the next round.  We can start with Chelsea vs Tottenham. Will we see another Chelsea disaster like we have seen against Utd?


toke’s pulling away at the top, you should still get a prize though. We all know & love football, it’s just a bit of luck I guess. There’s a fine line between being close & exact & it makes a difference if you get on a lucky streak.
Both teams currently facing Injury problems and Spurs already lost against Leipzig and Chelsea is going to face Bayern so this is going to be exciting match because if we have draw then Spurs going to lost position as Sheffield is already behing with just 1 Point but I am feeling Chelsea with go heavily as they need to win this match for alive in race for next years Champions League spot.
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Yeah, I went with 3-0. And yes, the most frustrating ones are when you lose out on any points at all by one goal. Even more so when you go for a risky draw and you're one of the only ones who did. You go from getting a very valuable three points to nothing and other's grow further away in the table. I guess that's the gamble though and you've got to take them with the wins you do get, especially when nobody else goes for them. 
In my cases I am too stuck on the 2nd position that even giving my best creativity I can not reduce the distance with toke. Right now we have 9 points difference. In the previous round the distance was 7 points only. I hope in this round their will be some decent movement in the leaderboard.

Leicester! huh!! This team lost their momentum I think. But against City you can not expect much from them though.
I looked on some stats and it seems I have a 2nd thought in mind about the pick of this match.

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