#1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.

[Rating Place]

Betcoin posted this in another thread.

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   NBA
   NCAA BASKETBALL - MEN
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   NBA - QUARTERS
   NCAA BASKETBALL MEN 2ND HALVES

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   NBA - DOUBLE RESULT
   NBA - SUNDAY NIGHT GAME PROPS
   NBA - GAME TEAM TOTALS
   NBA - MARGIN OF VICTORY
   NBA - EXACT POINTS SCORED
   NBA - PLAYER PROP TOTALS
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   NBA - TOTAL POINTS SCORED (INCLUDES OT)
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[BOOKMAKER]

Books- I don't want to take this thread too far off course but the NCAA tournament is right around the corner and the following may be of interest to players:

1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?

JETWIN:
1.   We are offering 14 different bet types for each NCAA game (some of them: Highest Scoring Quarter; Total Margin Ranges; Additional Totals; Double Result)
2.   We have approx. 1 BTC limit for each bet type
3.   No.

[casinobitco]

1- All of the above: Sides, Spreads, totals, and props (including odds to win tourney  or region)

2- A few days before the games, around 1.5 BTC... day of the games up to 5 BTC depending upon how much action we've received on a given side.

3- No, but we will have 2nd half wagers for every game.

Odds will be viewable, without login, here: https://www.casinobitco.in/bet-college-basketball


-Tim

Books- I don't want to take this thread too far off course but the NCAA tournament is right around the corner and the following may be of interest to players:

1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?

[Gogo ppp]

I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line.

 I don't understand how neither you nor nscala1 are not disturbed by this.

If I understand correctly, if I want Lakers -1 and it goes to -2, someone can match me at the changed line of -2?
Or does it only mean that my offer stands if the line improves for me? E.g. I want Lakers -2, it changes to Lakers -1, and I get matched at the better line.

Likewise, if I want Lakers -2 -110, and it goes to -2 -120, someone can match me at the worse line (which I don't want)?

I must be misunderstanding something, as this would be a disaster and I can't imagine any exchange functioning in this manner and having customers.

[Gogo ppp]

In post #1, you still haven't corrected your misspelling of casinobitco.in - "Casinobitcoin B", although you acknowledged the misspelling a few weeks ago.

Since so many bitcoin sportsbooks have similar names, I feel it's important to use the correct names.
As well as being professional. And preventing people from being scammed by phishing sites which try to trap people who misspell a site's name.

I'm unclear as to why you wouldn't want to correct this.

[Rating Place]

In post #1, you still haven't corrected your misspelling of casinobitco.in - "Casinobitcoin B", although you acknowledged the misspelling a few weeks ago.

Since so many bitcoin sportsbooks have similar names, I feel it's important to use the correct names.
As well as being professional. And preventing people from being scammed by phishing sites which try to trap people who misspell a site's name.

I'm unclear as to why you wouldn't want to correct this.

corrected. There's no reason. Some books are .com, some .cc and others .eu. I think that I always leave that out. Casinobitco.in even uses the handle of "casinobitco".

gogo- if I misspell it in the future, it's not a slight against you. I just may not remember since I do it the other way with the rest of the books.

[Rating Place]

I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line.

 I don't understand how neither you nor nscala1 are not disturbed by this.

If I understand correctly, if I want Lakers -1 and it goes to -2, someone can match me at the changed line of -2?
Or does it only mean that my offer stands if the line improves for me? E.g. I want Lakers -2, it changes to Lakers -1, and I get matched at the better line.

Likewise, if I want Lakers -2 -110, and it goes to -2 -120, someone can match me at the worse line (which I don't want)?

I must be misunderstanding something, as this would be a disaster and I can't imagine any exchange functioning in this manner and having customers.

I would never bet blind. Here's what I wrote a year ago.

 

BTCSportsmatch : This is an exchange that has been up for 2 years and has potential. You get an actual account that you put bitcoins into so you know what has been accepted and what is not accepted. Winners pay a 1% fee and the lines are Pinny no-vig. The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance.

[Rating Place]

Thanks DirectBet, Jetwin and Casinobitco.in for posting the NCAA information.

[Rating Place]

There are a lot of things that I don't like about BTCSportsmatch but I want to look into it more and get player feedback before a change in rating. They are currently a "D". I really could care less about being anonymous but they opened in 2011 and are anonymous.

They don't have a lot of players online and have no offers up in small markets. It looks like there are bots that are immediately accepting offers. nscala just brought up the discussion on BTCSportsmatch and more time is needed for an accurate assessment.

[Rating Place]

Is anyone else playing at BTCSportsmatch?

[Gogo ppp]

I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line.

 I don't understand how neither you nor nscala1 are not disturbed by this.

If I understand correctly, if I want Lakers -1 and it goes to -2, someone can match me at the changed line of -2?
Or does it only mean that my offer stands if the line improves for me? E.g. I want Lakers -2, it changes to Lakers -1, and I get matched at the better line.

Likewise, if I want Lakers -2 -110, and it goes to -2 -120, someone can match me at the worse line (which I don't want)?

I must be misunderstanding something, as this would be a disaster and I can't imagine any exchange functioning in this manner and having customers.

I would never bet blind. Here's what I wrote a year ago.

 

BTCSportsmatch : This is an exchange that has been up for 2 years and has potential. You get an actual account that you put bitcoins into so you know what has been accepted and what is not accepted. Winners pay a 1% fee and the lines are Pinny no-vig. The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance.

"The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance."

This makes the site worthless.

The only exception would be if there is a standing offer which one wants to accept immediately.
But as you mentioned, there is almost no liquidity and very few offers.

Posting an offer to buy or sell only to get a different line and/or different odds makes this site unplayable.

[Rating Place]

I just received verification on this. If you make an offer at BTCSportsmatch and there is a line change, your offer will stand at the new line.

 I don't understand how neither you nor nscala1 are not disturbed by this.

If I understand correctly, if I want Lakers -1 and it goes to -2, someone can match me at the changed line of -2?
Or does it only mean that my offer stands if the line improves for me? E.g. I want Lakers -2, it changes to Lakers -1, and I get matched at the better line.

Likewise, if I want Lakers -2 -110, and it goes to -2 -120, someone can match me at the worse line (which I don't want)?

I must be misunderstanding something, as this would be a disaster and I can't imagine any exchange functioning in this manner and having customers.

I would never bet blind. Here's what I wrote a year ago.

 

BTCSportsmatch : This is an exchange that has been up for 2 years and has potential. You get an actual account that you put bitcoins into so you know what has been accepted and what is not accepted. Winners pay a 1% fee and the lines are Pinny no-vig. The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance.

"The problem is that if there are line changes, your offer moves to the line change price and it's good unless you cancel prior to an acceptance."

This makes the site worthless.

The only exception would be if there is a standing offer which one wants to accept immediately.

Posting an offer to buy or sell only to get a different line and/or different odds makes this site unplayable.

If a person puts up an offer, you can accept it at that line. There are offers up right now. There is no risk of a line change when accepting offers. You can get an alternate line if you make an offer and leave it open.

[Rating Place]

I'd like to get more input from nscala. If he is placing offers that are immediately accepted, then most likely a bot is accepting offers immediately. If this is the case, then you can make an offer. If it's not immediately accepted, take it down.

[Legions36]

Is anyone else playing at BTCSportsmatch?

yes I play there from time to time, always a fast payout when I ask. Not sure why the low rating as I haven't had an issue.

[BetVIP]

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[Gogo ppp]

I feel that there should be a notation next to your ratings for any book which is not autograding bets.

It indicates an undercapitalized operation if they have to self grade wagers one by one.

Players should not have to submit pleas to a book's thread on this forum begging for their wagers to be graded, sometimes 24 hours later.

[NitrogenSports]

Hey guys,

1. We offer bets on spreads, moneylines and totals. We also have some limited props such as the title winner.
2. Our limits get higher closer to game time capping at about 2BTC per straight wager. Our parlay limit is 5BTC.
3. Not yet, but it is still in the works 

Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks!

[BetVIP]

I feel that there should be a notation next to your ratings for any book which is not autograding bets.

It indicates an undercapitalized operation if they have to self grade wagers one by one.

Players should not have to submit pleas to a book's thread on this forum begging for their wagers to be graded, sometimes 24 hours later.

Agreed - all the professional sportsbook solutions are instantly graded. If they have to grade manually they are really cutting corners at the player's expense!

[Gogo ppp]

WARNING - Tried to log into my Pinnacle account thru sbobitcoin.com (agents) - temporarily suspended.

Went to sbobitcoin.com website - No live chat. This was always 24/7.
There is an alternative - to send them an email because "Our live chat temporarily unavailable".

Email is disabled when I try to send.

[Rating Place]

I feel that there should be a notation next to your ratings for any book which is not autograding bets.

It indicates an undercapitalized operation if they have to self grade wagers one by one.

Players should not have to submit pleas to a book's thread on this forum begging for their wagers to be graded, sometimes 24 hours later.

Great idea! I'll post (m) next to the book. If you guys know of books manually grading, post them. I will look in to all.