#1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.

[Rating Place]

Besides security, Legions is saying that we need a reason to play at the Cointeller network and I agree 100% that we do need a reason to switch. If you sign up at the Cointeller network, their support is good about helping to direct you to the book that may fill your needs. Some want horses, others want reduced juice, some want higher limits. It's different for all of us. A reduced juice baseball book is important to me. Opinionated football lines will also be important to me. That's what I will be personally looking for with the Cointeller network.

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Anonibet voided my bet on Lyon +1.5, played against PSG last weekend. The bet won, but anonibet voided it on the grounds of home/away teams being reversed. After I pointed out that the game was played on neutral venue, therefore there is no home and away team they stated there was also a mistake in the odds. During our email conversation they quoted the following:

Paris St Germain - Olympique Lyon
Paris Saint Germain 1.40
Draw 4.45
Olympique Lyonnais 7.80

Olympique Lyon - Paris St Germain
Olympique Lyonnais 6.00
Draw 4.00
Aladeen: Paris Saint Germain 1.55

The former being the odds they offered and the latter being the odds they wanted to have offered. I contested that there's no obvious error in the prices offered, they just failed to follow the market (as odds on PSG lengthened as kick off approached). They were unwilling to discuss this matter any further.

My bet was Lyon +1.5, at odds 1.7, which was very much in line with Pinnacle at the time I took it. Bet date: 15 Apr 2014 14:09:42 GMT.

[info@anonibet.com]

Anonibet voided my bet on Lyon +1.5, played against PSG last weekend. The bet won, but anonibet voided it on the grounds of home/away teams being reversed. After I pointed out that the game was played on neutral venue, therefore there is no home and away team they stated there was also a mistake in the odds. During our email conversation they quoted the following:

Paris St Germain - Olympique Lyon
Paris Saint Germain 1.40
Draw 4.45
Olympique Lyonnais 7.80

Olympique Lyon - Paris St Germain
Olympique Lyonnais 6.00
Draw 4.00
Aladeen: Paris Saint Germain 1.55

The former being the odds they offered and the latter being the odds they wanted to have offered. I contested that there's no obvious error in the prices offered, they just failed to follow the market (as odds on PSG lengthened as kick off approached). They were unwilling to discuss this matter any further.

My bet was Lyon +1.5, at odds 1.7, which was very much in line with Pinnacle at the time I took it. Bet date: 15 Apr 2014 14:09:42 GMT.

I do not want to disclose what we have talked privately but you have threatened us in your first email. I have responded straight away and told you to go ahead and post whatever you want you want on the forum because we hate being threatened. All bets on this match  ( loosing bets) have been canceled. This is our final say. You know better than anyone else that we are a fair bookmaker. You are a long time player, can you say how many times we have canceled any match?

[alabamafan1]

Anonibet voided my bet on Lyon +1.5, played against PSG last weekend. The bet won, but anonibet voided it on the grounds of home/away teams being reversed. After I pointed out that the game was played on neutral venue, therefore there is no home and away team they stated there was also a mistake in the odds. During our email conversation they quoted the following:

Paris St Germain - Olympique Lyon
Paris Saint Germain 1.40
Draw 4.45
Olympique Lyonnais 7.80

Olympique Lyon - Paris St Germain
Olympique Lyonnais 6.00
Draw 4.00
Aladeen: Paris Saint Germain 1.55

The former being the odds they offered and the latter being the odds they wanted to have offered. I contested that there's no obvious error in the prices offered, they just failed to follow the market (as odds on PSG lengthened as kick off approached). They were unwilling to discuss this matter any further.

My bet was Lyon +1.5, at odds 1.7, which was very much in line with Pinnacle at the time I took it. Bet date: 15 Apr 2014 14:09:42 GMT.

I do not want to disclose what we have talked privately but you have threatened us in your first email. I have responded straight away and told you to go ahead and post whatever you want you want on the forum because we hate being threatened. All bets on this match  ( loosing bets) have been canceled. This is our final say. You know better than anyone else that we are a fair bookmaker. You are a long time player, can you say how many times we have canceled any match?

You accepted the bet, the odds seem reasonable, you should honor the bet. There is not a huge difference or obvious mistake here in the lines. This is your fault anonibet, not theirs, the lines you posted are not very different. Sad to see a book like this go this route, if you had made Lyon 1.40 or 1.55 then obvious error. 7.80 moneyline compared to 6.00 moneyline COME ON thats rediculous. You have won over 1 BTC off of me Anonibet and will get no more. Not going to use your book if you're going to be as sheepish with this line "error" as you are being. If he made threats against you, pay him, let him withdraw and ban him. Thats the sportsbook general policy accepted.

I am sure others and Peeps place will advise you to reconsider your decision as it is definitely wrong on your part to keep the decision you have made.

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Anonibet voided my bet on Lyon +1.5, played against PSG last weekend. The bet won, but anonibet voided it on the grounds of home/away teams being reversed. After I pointed out that the game was played on neutral venue, therefore there is no home and away team they stated there was also a mistake in the odds. During our email conversation they quoted the following:

Paris St Germain - Olympique Lyon
Paris Saint Germain 1.40
Draw 4.45
Olympique Lyonnais 7.80

Olympique Lyon - Paris St Germain
Olympique Lyonnais 6.00
Draw 4.00
Aladeen: Paris Saint Germain 1.55

The former being the odds they offered and the latter being the odds they wanted to have offered. I contested that there's no obvious error in the prices offered, they just failed to follow the market (as odds on PSG lengthened as kick off approached). They were unwilling to discuss this matter any further.

My bet was Lyon +1.5, at odds 1.7, which was very much in line with Pinnacle at the time I took it. Bet date: 15 Apr 2014 14:09:42 GMT.

I do not want to disclose what we have talked privately but you have threatened us in your first email. I have responded straight away and told you to go ahead and post whatever you want you want on the forum because we hate being threatened. All bets on this match  ( loosing bets) have been canceled. This is our final say. You know better than anyone else that we are a fair bookmaker. You are a long time player, can you say how many times we have canceled any match?

Michael, feel free to disclose our whole conversation if you will. From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied. Micheal called that a threat, and he called me a blackmailer.

[Rating Place]

Bitcoinzrulez is looking for books with higher limits.

I'm looking to wager somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-30 btc on sides/totals and then around 5-10 btc on 2-4 way parlays.


I tried nitrogen and my action was capped at 4 btc, 2 btc on parlays, anonibet and my action was capped very low and then cloudbet where i couldn't place a parlay i wanted higher than .1 btc.

I need some reliable bitcoin books that can actually handle a reasonable level of action.  feel free to weigh in as managers and players but be willing to show me evidence that you can handle action and that you are reputable.

I get told from books all the time that they can handle my level of action until i join the site and then its a fight to be able to place reasonably sized wagers.

Nitrogensports has stated that their exchange should be ready in a "few weeks".

[evo34]

Anonibet voided my bet on Lyon +1.5, played against PSG last weekend. The bet won, but anonibet voided it on the grounds of home/away teams being reversed. After I pointed out that the game was played on neutral venue, therefore there is no home and away team they stated there was also a mistake in the odds. During our email conversation they quoted the following:

Paris St Germain - Olympique Lyon
Paris Saint Germain 1.40
Draw 4.45
Olympique Lyonnais 7.80

Olympique Lyon - Paris St Germain
Olympique Lyonnais 6.00
Draw 4.00
Aladeen: Paris Saint Germain 1.55

The former being the odds they offered and the latter being the odds they wanted to have offered. I contested that there's no obvious error in the prices offered, they just failed to follow the market (as odds on PSG lengthened as kick off approached). They were unwilling to discuss this matter any further.

My bet was Lyon +1.5, at odds 1.7, which was very much in line with Pinnacle at the time I took it. Bet date: 15 Apr 2014 14:09:42 GMT.

I do not want to disclose what we have talked privately but you have threatened us in your first email. I have responded straight away and told you to go ahead and post whatever you want you want on the forum because we hate being threatened. All bets on this match  ( loosing bets) have been canceled. This is our final say. You know better than anyone else that we are a fair bookmaker. You are a long time player, can you say how many times we have canceled any match?

Weak.  No other reputable book would have done this.  Bump them down.

[BitcoinzRulez]

I have to say as my first day trying out new books, cloudbet and anonibet are insanely slow to grade my wagers. It's been hours and both books have my bets pending. I checked the FAQ section and both state within minutes except on exotic crap.

If I ever bet early games and wanted to bet west coast stuff I'd be shit out of luck at this rate.


"How long does it take for the bets to be settled?
We settle all the bets and pay, as soon as we can confirm the outcomes of the events. This usually takes a few minutes for most events. But sometimes in exotic sports or leagues the time to confirm the results might take longer. Anonibet aims to settle all the bets as soon as possible."

[goxcraft]

Anonibet voided my bet on Lyon +1.5, played against PSG last weekend. The bet won, but anonibet voided it on the grounds of home/away teams being reversed. After I pointed out that the game was played on neutral venue, therefore there is no home and away team they stated there was also a mistake in the odds. During our email conversation they quoted the following:

Paris St Germain - Olympique Lyon
Paris Saint Germain 1.40
Draw 4.45
Olympique Lyonnais 7.80

Olympique Lyon - Paris St Germain
Olympique Lyonnais 6.00
Draw 4.00
Aladeen: Paris Saint Germain 1.55

The former being the odds they offered and the latter being the odds they wanted to have offered. I contested that there's no obvious error in the prices offered, they just failed to follow the market (as odds on PSG lengthened as kick off approached). They were unwilling to discuss this matter any further.

My bet was Lyon +1.5, at odds 1.7, which was very much in line with Pinnacle at the time I took it. Bet date: 15 Apr 2014 14:09:42 GMT.

I do not want to disclose what we have talked privately but you have threatened us in your first email. I have responded straight away and told you to go ahead and post whatever you want you want on the forum because we hate being threatened. All bets on this match  ( loosing bets) have been canceled. This is our final say. You know better than anyone else that we are a fair bookmaker. You are a long time player, can you say how many times we have canceled any match?

You accepted the bet, the odds seem reasonable, you should honor the bet. There is not a huge difference or obvious mistake here in the lines. This is your fault anonibet, not theirs, the lines you posted are not very different. Sad to see a book like this go this route, if you had made Lyon 1.40 or 1.55 then obvious error. 7.80 moneyline compared to 6.00 moneyline COME ON thats rediculous. You have won over 1 BTC off of me Anonibet and will get no more. Not going to use your book if you're going to be as sheepish with this line "error" as you are being. If he made threats against you, pay him, let him withdraw and ban him. Thats the sportsbook general policy accepted.

I am sure others and Peeps place will advise you to reconsider your decision as it is definitely wrong on your part to keep the decision you have made.

Agree with alabamafan1

[goxcraft]

I have to say as my first day trying out new books, cloudbet and anonibet are insanely slow to grade my wagers. It's been hours and both books have my bets pending. I checked the FAQ section and both state within minutes except on exotic crap.

If I ever bet early games and wanted to bet west coast stuff I'd be shit out of luck at this rate.


"How long does it take for the bets to be settled?
We settle all the bets and pay, as soon as we can confirm the outcomes of the events. This usually takes a few minutes for most events. But sometimes in exotic sports or leagues the time to confirm the results might take longer. Anonibet aims to settle all the bets as soon as possible."

Both companies – Anonibet andcloudbet use one and the same outsourced sports betting solution (Bettingpromotion). Therefore, if one company delays the resulting, it will be 100% delayed with the other company too. Betting promotion offers a cheap product (2,5K per month and you are a bookie), which is a limited offer, but it does work. By the way, apart from the above companies this solution is used by a few more bitcoin-bookies. That is why, unfortunately, users have a rather limited choice. Given the above, if I had to choose between Anonibet and Cloudbet, I would prefer Cloudbet – the product is the same, but prices are much better.
I placed bets with all bitcoin-bookies. Due to various reasons I kept only two bookies. Neither Anonibet nor cloudbet are among them.

[info@anonibet.com]

I have to say as my first day trying out new books, cloudbet and anonibet are insanely slow to grade my wagers. It's been hours and both books have my bets pending. I checked the FAQ section and both state within minutes except on exotic crap.

If I ever bet early games and wanted to bet west coast stuff I'd be shit out of luck at this rate.


"How long does it take for the bets to be settled?
We settle all the bets and pay, as soon as we can confirm the outcomes of the events. This usually takes a few minutes for most events. But sometimes in exotic sports or leagues the time to confirm the results might take longer. Anonibet aims to settle all the bets as soon as possible."

Both companies – Anonibet andcloudbet use one and the same outsourced sports betting solution (Bettingpromotion). Therefore, if one company delays the resulting, it will be 100% delayed with the other company too. Betting promotion offers a cheap product (2,5K per month and you are a bookie), which is a limited offer, but it does work. By the way, apart from the above companies this solution is used by a few more bitcoin-bookies. That is why, unfortunately, users have a rather limited choice. Given the above, if I had to choose between Anonibet and Cloudbet, I would prefer Cloudbet – the product is the same, but prices are much better.
I placed bets with all bitcoin-bookies. Due to various reasons I kept only two bookies. Neither Anonibet nor cloudbet are among them.

We do not use Bettingpromotion. Our provider is one of the biggest in Europe.

[Rating Place]

Betcoin confiscated 7 BTC from KGambler for what they called bonus abuse. KGamber had civilized communications with Betcoin. When Betcoin didn't pay, KGambler took it to the forum. Both sides posted their story. The posters then stated their opinions and KGambler was paid. That's the way it should work.

bplayer threatened Anonibet with his first post

From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied.

The purpose of this thread is not to threaten books. We are all here for the benefit of the players. We try to help them get paid and the ratings serve as a guide to help players determine where they will play. It's unfortunate that bplayer made a threat in post #1. Anonibet is in a situation now where they can't give in. I wish that this thread could work in a similar fashion as KGamler/Bercoin, but it's too late for that.

When gogo posted why Anonibet should change their 5% rule, Anonibet reconsidered and the rule was changed. When Anonibet overpaid Bitcoinzrulez 15 BTC, Bitcoinzrulez was the first to bring it to the forums. Prior to Bitcoinzrulez paying the 15 BTC back, Anonibet took full responsibility and stated that Bitcoinzrulez was not a scammer.

We don't even have all the facts of the bplayer/Anonibet case. Anonibet posted that bplayer is a long time player and this is his first problem. Due to the way bplayer handled this case, all the facts aren't going to come out. I can't see how a downgrade would be justified. In the future, I hope that players take the KGambler approach. This way the player, book and posters can all have input in one thread.

[dplay]

Betcoin confiscated 7 BTC from KGambler for what they called bonus abuse. KGamber had civilized communications with Betcoin. When Betcoin didn't pay, KGambler took it to the forum. Both sides posted their story. The posters then stated their opinions and KGambler was paid. That's the way it should work.

bplayer threatened Anonibet with his first post

From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied.

The purpose of this thread is not to threaten books. We are all here for the benefit of the players. We try to help them get paid and the ratings serve as a guide to help players determine where they will play. It's unfortunate that bplayer made a threat in post #1. Anonibet is in a situation now where they can't give in. I wish that this thread could work in a similar fashion as KGamler/Bercoin, but it's too late for that.

When gogo posted why Anonibet should change their 5% rule, Anonibet reconsidered and the rule was changed. When Anonibet overpaid Bitcoinzrulez 15 BTC, Bitcoinzrulez was the first to bring it to the forums. Prior to Bitcoinzrulez paying the 15 BTC back, Anonibet took full responsibility and stated that Bitcoinzrulez was not a scammer.

We don't even have all the facts of the bplayer/Anonibet case. Anonibet posted that bplayer is a long time player and this is his first problem. Due to the way bplayer handled this case, all the facts aren't going to come out. I can't see how a downgrade would be justified. In the future, I hope that players take the KGambler approach. This way the player, book and posters can all have input in one thread.

What facts are you missing?

[Rating Place]

Betcoin confiscated 7 BTC from KGambler for what they called bonus abuse. KGamber had civilized communications with Betcoin. When Betcoin didn't pay, KGambler took it to the forum. Both sides posted their story. The posters then stated their opinions and KGambler was paid. That's the way it should work.

bplayer threatened Anonibet with his first post

From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied.

The purpose of this thread is not to threaten books. We are all here for the benefit of the players. We try to help them get paid and the ratings serve as a guide to help players determine where they will play. It's unfortunate that bplayer made a threat in post #1. Anonibet is in a situation now where they can't give in. I wish that this thread could work in a similar fashion as KGamler/Bercoin, but it's too late for that.

When gogo posted why Anonibet should change their 5% rule, Anonibet reconsidered and the rule was changed. When Anonibet overpaid Bitcoinzrulez 15 BTC, Bitcoinzrulez was the first to bring it to the forums. Prior to Bitcoinzrulez paying the 15 BTC back, Anonibet took full responsibility and stated that Bitcoinzrulez was not a scammer.

We don't even have all the facts of the bplayer/Anonibet case. Anonibet posted that bplayer is a long time player and this is his first problem. Due to the way bplayer handled this case, all the facts aren't going to come out. I can't see how a downgrade would be justified. In the future, I hope that players take the KGambler approach. This way the player, book and posters can all have input in one thread.

What facts are you missing?

From your post the line was off 4%. What was the line at Pinny at the time of your bet? What are the venue rules at Anonibet? According to the post on the board, you are a long time player at Anonibet. Why would you start off with a threat of forum extortion? Normally a person starts with this when his position is weak.

What is nice about the bitcoin community is that there haven't been any players trying to use the forums as an extortion method. You see this a lot at the cash forums. Cash books do not give in to these threats.  I don't understand your motivation in stating, "From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied".

 Even though we are all here for the players, this thread is not going to be used for extortion. This is what you have done.

[evo34]

Betcoin confiscated 7 BTC from KGambler for what they called bonus abuse. KGamber had civilized communications with Betcoin. When Betcoin didn't pay, KGambler took it to the forum. Both sides posted their story. The posters then stated their opinions and KGambler was paid. That's the way it should work.

bplayer threatened Anonibet with his first post

From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied.

The purpose of this thread is not to threaten books. We are all here for the benefit of the players. We try to help them get paid and the ratings serve as a guide to help players determine where they will play. It's unfortunate that bplayer made a threat in post #1. Anonibet is in a situation now where they can't give in. I wish that this thread could work in a similar fashion as KGamler/Bercoin, but it's too late for that.

When gogo posted why Anonibet should change their 5% rule, Anonibet reconsidered and the rule was changed. When Anonibet overpaid Bitcoinzrulez 15 BTC, Bitcoinzrulez was the first to bring it to the forums. Prior to Bitcoinzrulez paying the 15 BTC back, Anonibet took full responsibility and stated that Bitcoinzrulez was not a scammer.

We don't even have all the facts of the bplayer/Anonibet case. Anonibet posted that bplayer is a long time player and this is his first problem. Due to the way bplayer handled this case, all the facts aren't going to come out. I can't see how a downgrade would be justified. In the future, I hope that players take the KGambler approach. This way the player, book and posters can all have input in one thread.

What facts are you missing?

From your post the line was off 4%. What was the line at Pinny at the time of your bet? What are the venue rules at Anonibet? According to the post on the board, you are a long time player at Anonibet. Why would you start off with a threat of forum extortion? Normally a person starts with this when his position is weak.

What is nice about the bitcoin community is that there haven't been any players trying to use the forums as an extortion method. You see this a lot at the cash forums. Cash books do not give in to these threats.  I don't understand your motivation in stating, "From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied".

 Even though we are all here for the players, this thread is not going to be used for extortion. This is what you have done.

Whether or not a player "threatens" to go public with a dispute should have ZERO impact on the judgment of whether what the book did was right or wrong.  We are not grading the players here; we are grading the books.  I couldn't care less about the individual dispute.  The principle (voiding a bet that was in no way an obvious bad line) is disturbing, however.

[Rating Place]

Betcoin confiscated 7 BTC from KGambler for what they called bonus abuse. KGamber had civilized communications with Betcoin. When Betcoin didn't pay, KGambler took it to the forum. Both sides posted their story. The posters then stated their opinions and KGambler was paid. That's the way it should work.

bplayer threatened Anonibet with his first post

From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied.

The purpose of this thread is not to threaten books. We are all here for the benefit of the players. We try to help them get paid and the ratings serve as a guide to help players determine where they will play. It's unfortunate that bplayer made a threat in post #1. Anonibet is in a situation now where they can't give in. I wish that this thread could work in a similar fashion as KGamler/Bercoin, but it's too late for that.

When gogo posted why Anonibet should change their 5% rule, Anonibet reconsidered and the rule was changed. When Anonibet overpaid Bitcoinzrulez 15 BTC, Bitcoinzrulez was the first to bring it to the forums. Prior to Bitcoinzrulez paying the 15 BTC back, Anonibet took full responsibility and stated that Bitcoinzrulez was not a scammer.

We don't even have all the facts of the bplayer/Anonibet case. Anonibet posted that bplayer is a long time player and this is his first problem. Due to the way bplayer handled this case, all the facts aren't going to come out. I can't see how a downgrade would be justified. In the future, I hope that players take the KGambler approach. This way the player, book and posters can all have input in one thread.

What facts are you missing?

From your post the line was off 4%. What was the line at Pinny at the time of your bet? What are the venue rules at Anonibet? According to the post on the board, you are a long time player at Anonibet. Why would you start off with a threat of forum extortion? Normally a person starts with this when his position is weak.

What is nice about the bitcoin community is that there haven't been any players trying to use the forums as an extortion method. You see this a lot at the cash forums. Cash books do not give in to these threats.  I don't understand your motivation in stating, "From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied".

 Even though we are all here for the players, this thread is not going to be used for extortion. This is what you have done.

Whether or not a player "threatens" to go public with a dispute should have ZERO impact on the judgment of whether what the book did was right or wrong.  We are not grading the players here; we are grading the books.  I couldn't care less about the individual dispute.  The principle (voiding a bet that was in no way an obvious bad line) is disturbing, however.

Agree that the threat has nothing to do with the book grade. Why do you say the line wasn't bad? What percentage is considered bad and what was the market price at the time of the bet? Does the venue have anything to do with a bet being voided. I understand American sports but I'm not familiar with soccer rules. Were all the bets canceled by Anonibet? We can't just change a rating based upon one unsubstantiated claim.

[Rating Place]

Posters should go public with complaints. It would have saved a lot of us money with Coinbet. The posters in this thread have been very honest and credible. The posters here helped to get two players paid. The cash forums are different. Some dishonest posters run to the forums immediately trying to pressure books by creating a mob mentality. We should stay away from this by blindly finding a book guilty.

[Bismarckbkk]

I have to say as my first day trying out new books, cloudbet and anonibet are insanely slow to grade my wagers. It's been hours and both books have my bets pending. I checked the FAQ section and both state within minutes except on exotic crap.

If I ever bet early games and wanted to bet west coast stuff I'd be shit out of luck at this rate.


"How long does it take for the bets to be settled?
We settle all the bets and pay, as soon as we can confirm the outcomes of the events. This usually takes a few minutes for most events. But sometimes in exotic sports or leagues the time to confirm the results might take longer. Anonibet aims to settle all the bets as soon as possible."

I have to agree with that. Cloudbet is painfully slow on almost every major sports event I bet on ( mlb & nba ) . They should change whatever service they use.

Softwarewise cloudbet sucks too, I was getting logged out everytime in the betting menu. They suggested to use google chrome but it was the same.

Nitrogensports is miles ahead of cloudbet utilitywise. I think anoni is very similar to cloudbet. The main thing is that at cloudbet you have to open a page for every single wager to see all the bets for 1 game.

For example if you want to look at over/under or moneylines for mlb plays you have to select every single wager to see the odds, then navigate back to the main menu, and select the next game and most likely you have been logged out in the meantime. 

[dplay]

Posters should go public with complaints. It would have saved a lot of us money with Coinbet. The posters in this thread have been very honest and credible. The posters here helped to get two players paid. The cash forums are different. Some dishonest posters run to the forums immediately trying to pressure books by creating a mob mentality. We should stay away from this by blindly finding a book guilty.

Peeps, I believe I've had a bet settled incorrectly. I went to the bookie, we had a conversation which contained 10-odd emails and lasted for a couple of days. We were unable to come to a satsifactory outcome. So I went to the community. Just as you would go to SBR if it were some other, cash based, old style book. And in doing so I understand that I'm a dishonest cunt who ran to the forums when a bookie did me wrong. A mobster and a blackmailer. But where in their terms does it say "If you're a flatulent git we'll void your bets at random"?

I've posted the bet details. I have no way of retrieving the odds from the other big books at the time I placed it. If someone does, please post here.

[Rating Place]

Posters should go public with complaints. It would have saved a lot of us money with Coinbet. The posters in this thread have been very honest and credible. The posters here helped to get two players paid. The cash forums are different. Some dishonest posters run to the forums immediately trying to pressure books by creating a mob mentality. We should stay away from this by blindly finding a book guilty.

Peeps, I believe I've had a bet settled incorrectly. I went to the bookie, we had a conversation which contained 10-odd emails and lasted for a couple of days. We were unable to come to a satsifactory outcome. So I went to the community. Just as you would go to SBR if it were some other, cash based, old style book. And in doing so I understand that I'm a dishonest cunt who ran to the forums when a bookie did me wrong. A mobster and a blackmailer. But where in their terms does it say "If you're a flatulent git we'll void your bets at random"?

I've posted the bet details. I have no way of retrieving the odds from the other big books at the time I placed it. If someone does, please post here.

I'm able to get an archived history of lines from multiple books including PinnacleSports. If both parties agree why not post your first email? It's only fair to show some type of evidence before a book is downgraded.

 I've been guilty of posting innuendos which I will cease. Throwing insults at each other serves no purpose. It would be best just to stick to the facts. If I am wrong in my assertions, I will definitely apologize and make appropriate grade changes.