#1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.

[Peeps Place]

This poster here registered July 28th. Many backing DirectBet have just registered.

Your claim that they just signed up to back us is another false accusation.

why do you make this stuff up? read the quotes again. It's an observation that many people backing you have just signed up. I didn't say it was the sole reason for them signing up. They are just new to this thread and swayed by your posts.

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[BetMoose]

Just gotta chime in here as a fairly neutral, non-directly competing operator...

DirectBet, I think regardless of whether you're right or wrong, you're giving your book and reputation a bad image with how you're handling this. You're in here multiple times a day trying to prove that Peeps is wrong and you are right. Only you seem to care though, everyone else wants to get on with the regular scheduling - it also shows you're not spending your time improving your platform to cater better to your users. There's also a strong feel of a cult/herd mentality within your thread and from your users (assuming they are real), and bashing down what WAS before this shitstorm a decent thread for news, updates, issues and disputes where players and operators can come and talk about problems and settle them, REGARDLESS if they are rated higher or lower than others. Now every time this gets a 'New' pip on my watchlist I expect lots of bold and red writing between you and Peeps. Okay let's assume he gets paid to rate books higher, so? Happens ALL the time in the industry as a whole, in fact, that's what our mass market media is all about. No one can guarantee 100% neutral opinions, and most smart players know this and take all ratings with a grain of salt. Real players will test out each book and decide for themselves what they like, not just go to the 'A' rated book because some guy on the forum said so. The fact you're rated at all is a huge bonus, if I was Peeps I would've already taken you off the list since he's running a self-moderated rating system and can do whatever he wants at the end of the day. RyanK's is much more open to user ratings than this one, but on the downside is also more open to shilling.

How can this end? What do you want Peeps to do, say "Yea you're right, I lied and am being paid to promote the 'top books'". Why!? That's worse for everyone, for the players and for you. The more people actively promoting bitcoin gambling the better, and just because you're unhappy with it, doesn't mean you should be taking everyone else down with you.

What we'd like to see is every reviewer giving each book a fair chance - to post updates, promote, connect with the community (aka not barring entry to the market). Just because you're a C doesn't mean anything is necessarily wrong, and even if you were 'A' wouldn't make you any more popular. Your site does need improvement, face it and focus your time and energy on that. It's been a month for us here at BetMoose and we've already built a whole social network within ours.

BTC gambling is still tiny and a sketchy fiat book from costa rica can swallow everyone up tomorrow with no issues, so let's try to focus on adoption and user growth outside of bitcoin instead of fighting for users within the bitcoin communities. This is, in part, due to Peeps Place being paid for outreach to fiat gambling communities with his 'rating guide'.

Adam

[DirectBet]

How can this end? What do you want Peeps to do, say "Yea you're right, I lied and am being paid to promote the 'top books'".

Peeps Place already admitted getting paid by his top rated books to promote them in forums.

What we have been asking to end this saga is that Peeps Place put a disclaimer in the opening post stating which books are paying him to promote them in forums.

Another option is to remove the ratings and use this thread as a platform to share experiences with books, alert of scams, etc. but without the biased, paid ratings.

Otherwise, we have no choice but to continually remind the readers here every time this thread is bumped that it is not a true ratings guide and that the ratings are paid for, because just like you want to alert users of scam books, you also want to alert users of scam rating guides, there is no difference.

[stayeduptolate]

Just gotta chime in here as a fairly neutral, non-directly competing operator...

DirectBet, I think regardless of whether you're right or wrong, you're giving your book and reputation a bad image with how you're handling this. You're in here multiple times a day trying to prove that Peeps is wrong and you are right. Only you seem to care though, everyone else wants to get on with the regular scheduling - it also shows you're not spending your time improving your platform to cater better to your users. There's also a strong feel of a cult/herd mentality within your thread and from your users (assuming they are real), and bashing down what WAS before this shitstorm a decent thread for news, updates, issues and disputes where players and operators can come and talk about problems and settle them, REGARDLESS if they are rated higher or lower than others. Now every time this gets a 'New' pip on my watchlist I expect lots of bold and red writing between you and Peeps. Okay let's assume he gets paid to rate books higher, so? Happens ALL the time in the industry as a whole, in fact, that's what our mass market media is all about. No one can guarantee 100% neutral opinions, and most smart players know this and take all ratings with a grain of salt. Real players will test out each book and decide for themselves what they like, not just go to the 'A' rated book because some guy on the forum said so. The fact you're rated at all is a huge bonus, if I was Peeps I would've already taken you off the list since he's running a self-moderated rating system and can do whatever he wants at the end of the day. RyanK's is much more open to user ratings than this one, but on the downside is also more open to shilling.

How can this end? What do you want Peeps to do, say "Yea you're right, I lied and am being paid to promote the 'top books'". Why!? That's worse for everyone, for the players and for you. The more people actively promoting bitcoin gambling the better, and just because you're unhappy with it, doesn't mean you should be taking everyone else down with you.

What we'd like to see is every reviewer giving each book a fair chance - to post updates, promote, connect with the community (aka not barring entry to the market). Just because you're a C doesn't mean anything is necessarily wrong, and even if you were 'A' wouldn't make you any more popular. Your site does need improvement, face it and focus your time and energy on that. It's been a month for us here at BetMoose and we've already built a whole social network within ours.

BTC gambling is still tiny and a sketchy fiat book from costa rica can swallow everyone up tomorrow with no issues, so let's try to focus on adoption and user growth outside of bitcoin instead of fighting for users within the bitcoin communities. This is, in part, due to Peeps Place being paid for outreach to fiat gambling communities with his 'rating guide'.

Adam

OMG THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 10 out of 10 betmoose thank you for this post

guys can we please just move on directBet do you and run your book and make it Hugely successful peeps good job with the thread  no more bickering lets get back to making sports books better by the day!!!

[Peeps Place]

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On the last minute before the bet deadline, someone else (a last-minute bettor) also places 1 on "No", but at a late-time multiplier of 1.000x. That ‘time-weighted’ bet is worth 1.000 * 1 = 1.

Let’s say “No” wins. The amount to be split between the 2 bettors on the “No” side is 1 (total volume of “Yes”). Since you both bet the same amount but you bet at a 2x multiplier, you will get exactly 2x more of the opposite pot than the other late bettor. Your payout is calculated as follows:

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[Magicman420]

I'm gonna have to say cloudbet is the easiest sportsbook  to use!!! Anonibet has been around forever so they are my backup, book

[Legend_]

anonibet change to a- is joke... they still first place after 22 btc scam ha haha... need bigger punish to teach them not to cheat us players...

[Shallow]

Can you go into more reasoning over why you are giving Anonibet A-? As legend_ points out, there are some suspicious circumstances that makes it possible to conclude that they may be shady / scamming. I am not judging right now, but you should investigate and update ratings if appropriate.

[Peeps Place]

I'm gonna have to say cloudbet is the easiest sportsbook  to use!!! Anonibet has been around forever so they are my backup, book

Thanks for the input.

[Peeps Place]

I'm not going to change the ratings on DirectBet or Anonibet since there hasn't been enough posters speaking up to warrant it. Jetwin will get an upgrade.

[Peeps Place]

Can you go into more reasoning over why you are giving Anonibet A-? As legend_ points out, there are some suspicious circumstances that makes it possible to conclude that they may be shady / scamming. I am not judging right now, but you should investigate and update ratings if appropriate.

A downdgrade will be reconsidered if another instance arises. I'm not trying to avoid your question but I'm not sure what happened with the contest. I contacted both Michael and John Barnes. Then I read the facebook pages. I don't want to play spokesman for Anonibet so I'm going to leave their rating as it is right now. The same goes for DirectBet.

[DirectBet]

Can you go into more reasoning over why you are giving Anonibet A-? As legend_ points out, there are some suspicious circumstances that makes it possible to conclude that they may be shady / scamming. I am not judging right now, but you should investigate and update ratings if appropriate.

Peeps Place will never downgrade Anonibet from the top spot no matter what.

That's because Anonibet is paying him to promote them in forums.

This is not a true and honest ratings guide but rather a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet.

For more details : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7714802#msg7714802

Peeps Place should put a disclosure in the opening post that this thread is a paid advertisement, otherwise it's misleading.

[Peeps Place]

We can't read the threads of each book daily. This thread was intended so that matters with all books could be brought to our attention. We need input from posters to do this. The thread has alerted players to 4 scam books before they went under. Players have been paid here because the dispute between book and player was brought to this thread.

DirectBet is not going to turn this into his personal thread and has been deleted from the ratings.

[DirectBet]

I'm not going to change the ratings on DirectBet or Anonibet since there hasn't been enough posters speaking up to warrant it.

Not enough posters speaking up to warrant Anonibet downgrade ?

Peeps Place, you are money blind. There were so many posts, you ignore them because Anonibet is paying you.

Here is a reminder of what posters had to say about Anonibet during the past couple of weeks.

Watch out, it's going to be very very long !

[DirectBet]

There have been rumors of cheating by Anonibet in their contest so I read the whole thread and did some research. joeland won 10 BTC by winning the contest. He joined bitcointalk on 4/26 and then made his first post on 6/8. The post was in regards to Webetcoins. On 6/27 joelad made posts concerning the contest with Anonibet. If there was cheating going on then why would the winner of the contest be legit?

i think contest winners are anonibet employees... but i could only prove one... read my story... anonibet over reaction and silence made it clear... they tried to get rid of evidence...

Anonibet cheated me in their world cup contest!!!

They participated in their own contest to keep the money for themselves!!!



AAAAARARRRRRRGGGGG!!! I feel soooo dumb... should have known better!

opened a new account to participate in their contest. NO WAAY I play there other wise... their odds are very bad but I figured with the extra $$$ from the contest it could worth it... placed many bets for a few days and earned 65 points... at that time first place had only 9 points...

As soon as I posted my bets here something very weird happened... all of a sudden two completely newbies who just opened their bitcoin talk accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me.

I suspected it was Anonibet participating in their own contest but had no way to prove figured I have no chance beating them so I stopped... cost me 0.55 BTC trying!!!

...then I came across the profile of one of the winners...












UPDATE :  immediately after my post anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

luckily, google has the original facebook page cached with anonibet.com address in the contact info :

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

anonibet claims the winner is just a regular customer and did not want to explain how come he has a facebook page since 2011 with their address in the contact info.

what do you think?

A player was overpaid 15 BTC. Anonibet took full blame for the mistake. They even went so far as to say that the player wasn't a cheat. I don't remember the exact wording but it had the same meaning. The player did pay back anonibet. Anonibet had an outage. Every player that emailed anonibet received .1 BTC for the down time. Anonibet opened in 2011 and has a maximum withdrawal of 500 BTC.

Last time I checked the maximum withdrawal limit on Anonibet was 500 mBTC, 0.5 BTC that is.

I'd also like to add that the recent allegations does not look good, at all. Until I see some acceptable explanations I'll move my betting business elsewhere.

A player was overpaid 15 BTC. Anonibet took full blame for the mistake. They even went so far as to say that the player wasn't a cheat. I don't remember the exact wording but it had the same meaning. The player did pay back anonibet. Anonibet had an outage. Every player that emailed anonibet received .1 BTC for the down time. Anonibet opened in 2011 and has a maximum withdrawal of 500 BTC.

Last time I checked the maximum withdrawal limit on Anonibet was 500 mBTC, 0.5 BTC that is.

I'd also like to add that the recent allegations does not look good, at all. Until I see some acceptable explanations I'll move my betting business elsewhere.

"Last time I checked the maximum withdrawal limit on Anonibet was 500 mBTC, 0.5 BTC that is."

No, the site states:

 "Are there any minimum or maximum limits for depositing and withdrawing?

Minimum deposit amount is 0.001 BTC or 1 mBTC. The maximum amount you can withdraw from your Anonibet account is 500 BTC for a 24 hour period."

https://www.anonibet.com/default.aspx



The same FAQ still states that there is a 5% charge for withdrawing without giving a one time rollover (betting all funds deposited at least once).
This is inexcusable, given that there is no cost to anonibet for either accepting a deposit or sending out a withdrawal.

"After I made a deposit, can I withdraw my funds without placing any bets?

Clients are required to wager the whole amount that was deposited, before any withdrawal request. If you want to withdraw funds without making a wager a 5% handling fee is charged."

It's always good to monitor sportsbooks and make sure they are being honest.

I just think your ranking system is deceiving. Why have anonibet above nitrogen or betcoinsports? or even directbet?

It seems like your personal experience and the way you title your thread would indicate otherwise.

No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations.

Yep they're good in bet but really terrible in contest
see my evidence here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7918311#msg7918311

do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...

do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...

wait the guy's actual screename he won with is anonitips?  Wow can't get much more obvious that that! haha.  Seriously if this type of crap is true you really should be lowering the Anonibet rating...

Wow not using anonibet after seeing the posts above.

can u pls ask Michael anonibet boss to come here and make official word

1. anonitips is not working for anonibet and never worked for anonibet...
2. he does not know why anonitips has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...
3. he does not know this person anonitips and only heard about him in contest

I want official word from anonibet boss and not from his soliders.

then we can continue...

Please find my answers for the last time regarding that subject:

1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either.
2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page.
3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis.

The 10 BTC winner has disclosed his wallet address on the forum, we have asked Anonitips to do the same. But so far he has not responded. If we were to make our employees winning the contest, why would we not make someone win the 10 BTC? If we were to use our employees for the contest, we would never use a nickname like Anonitips. Do you think we are so stupid?

Some Hitmen (paid by our competitors which will burst in few weeks/months) have invaded our thread especially and posted big pictures etc in order to tarnish Anonibet image. What the masters/owners of these posting members do not know, is that The forum is not a very good place to grab some of our customers. They should try to advertise like we do outside of the Bitcoin world. They will not be able to survive by chasing customers on the forum.

We know that some of our competitors are on the verge to close down. We are not happy about this, because it affects the trust in Bitcoin Bookmakers. We want them to survive. We might in the near future help some of them by buying their brands (we are not buying database) in order to prevent them to run away with customers funds.

John is not my soldier, he is our Affiliate Marketing Manager. He has our full trust and can respond to any question on the forum.

This is the last time we answer this unfounded, baseless accusations.

Regards,
Michael Hoshford

[DirectBet]

Why you aren't answer about your Facebook meme contest too?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7924843#msg7924843
[/quote]

1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either.
2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page.
3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis.

why someone u don't know at all will add your logo and address to his facebook page without getting any payment for several years?

I do not believe it... never heard of someone who promoted a company without getting pay or at least thanks...

and why immediately after I revelaed this scam anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

I am a customer. I placed 70+ bets with my own money on your site to take the lead in the contest. I got 65 points and first place at the time had only 9 points for many days... then immediately after I posted my bets and took the lead, all of a sudden two completely newbies who just opened their bitcoin talk accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me. I suspected it was Anonibet participating in their own contest and so I stopped... luckily i later found a way to prove it...

I believe all contest winners are not real customers but I could only prove one.

anonibet also did not pay the 2btc prize for the unluckiest bet slip... they say it is because joelad the person who was supposed to win it won first place prize and can not take both prizes, but nowhere in the contest terms did it say that... so once again they changed the rules after the contest was already over to keep the money for them... they also did that in their meme contest...

... also, if joelad was a real customer I am sure he would have at least attempt to claim his prize but he didn't request it and didn't complain so I believe he is anonibet employee too... a real customer will not give up on his prize so quickly!

so what do u think? do u believe Michael has no clue who is this guy?

Hey Peeps,

Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?

I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.

Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.

I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:

Nitrogen - A  A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS.  I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games.  The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.

Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws

Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.

Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.

Hey Peeps,

Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?

I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.

Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.

I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:

Nitrogen - A  A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS.  I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games.  The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.

Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws

Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.

Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.

I agree all with you, what you wrote and ratings too, Anonibet doesn't deserve A even before this chaos, but after this contest it must be dropped down.

And it's not good what Directbet caught you, why you are making shill account to defend Anoni or attack on Direct.

You just do your work as Book rater, for you all book must equal but you always defend Anoni even on Anoni thread you were defending there, It's not your work if they have any accusation they will defend themselves.

Anonibet opened their facebook page in 2011. Anonitips opened his page in April 2014.

u r wrong... anonitips opened his facebook page in 2011... look again...

I think anonitips is one of anonibet first bosses... the facebook page was opened long time ago and he forgot he had anonibet address and logo in contact info when he used the account for contest...

anonibet change to a- is joke... they still first place after 22 btc scam ha haha... need bigger punish to teach them not to cheat us players...

Meme not followed this rule https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=588961554552303&id=139078896207240
They chose most likes it's very wasted my time to invited my friends to like that page. Enough for Anonibet now likes drop SHAME!!

its not removed, its still there, join me and i will help you with some tips... we will win together

OK you put it back but now removed the www.anonibet.com link from the contact info to clear the trail LOL
luckily it is also shown in the google cache in the ABOUT section that you are anonibet!!!
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

Jeez Anonibet this does not "smell" good. And it wasn't even for too many BTC.

Extremely suspicious situation with the contest results and ending. A way to verify?

loool, i can asure you i am a regular customer...i bet for fun

yeah so why did you delete your facebook page immediately after I post if you have nothing to hide? Panicked??

it was there since 2011 and you suddenly remove it?

...luckily google has it cached! everyone go now and see...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

ANONIBET U R A PIECE OF SCAM !!!

its not removed, its still there, join me and i will help you with some tips... we will win together

OK you put it back but now removed the www.anonibet.com link from the contact info to clear the trail LOL
luckily it is also shown in the google cache in the ABOUT section that you are anonibet!!!
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

I think if they were to cheat then they wouldn't go enter themselves as Anonibet, they would obvs make a fake name.  

Thank you for your post. Our customers will "defacto" know that it is not Anonibet style to organize a suspicious contest.

Michael

yeah right so how do u explain that immediately after my post anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google you put the page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

what's your relation to this contest winner anonitips?

he is one of your employees isn't he???

I think if they were to cheat then they wouldn't go enter themselves as Anonibet, they would obvs make a fake name.  

Thank you for your post. Our customers will "defacto" know that it is not Anonibet style to organize a suspicious contest.

Michael

yeah right so how do u explain that immediately after my post anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google you put the page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

what's your relation to this contest winner anonitips?

he is one of your employees isn't he???

They think that all users here are fu...ing idiots, and they will enjoy all these BTC22, BTC100 etc. SCAM contests. anonibet.com is SCAM! Pure and simple.

BTW, MtGox also was Gold Member of Bitcoin Foundation. You are going the right way, anoni!  

BTW, MtGox also was Gold Member of Bitcoin Foundation. You are going the right way, anoni!  

Up Down.bt obviously too and I think they're block me from their Facebook page after I complained about meme contest.

Dear Anonibet Friends,

As the Contest Coordinator, i would like to announce that this contest was held through this thread in order to promote transparency. Throughout the whole contest, you were free to mention any disparities you may have noted, for example Goxcraft wanted the contest moved to games and rounds at some point and reported to moderator. That was all he participated in the contest and after the prizes have been awarded, he labels the contest a scam. The players who posted their slips had an equal chance of winning the contest and in the end, those who were leading have received their guaranteed prizes. We are Anonibet and we pride ourselves in having the best service, which we thrive to improve each and everyday. We will not mention or compare to some of our competitors who usually attack us in other threads as they may be the source of disgruntlement from some who did not even participate in the contest.

Regards,

John

1.    Of course I didn’t participate in your contest, because it’s useless and misleading. My time is too expensive to waste it on SCAM contests.
2.     Users of bitcointalk are not blind – what is the purpose of increasing the font size of your messages (x3)?
3.    You guys are cool & honest, simply the best. I don’t mind. Just explain us that move:

I think if they were to cheat then they wouldn't go enter themselves as Anonibet, they would obvs make a fake name.  

Thank you for your post. Our customers will "defacto" know that it is not Anonibet style to organize a suspicious contest.

Michael

yeah right so how do u explain that immediately after my post anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google you put the page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

what's your relation to this contest winner anonitips?

he is one of your employees isn't he???

john, how do you relate to the contest winner anonitips?

Anonitips is an anonibet customer who participated in the contest. That is as much as I know about him and as stated in the last post, This Thread is now beyond the contest. Please PM and if your question warrants a response it will be provided. I will do my best to answer all logical and meaningful questions to satisfy our Valued Anonibet Customers.

Back to the thread, We have the odds for the coming British bout . All the best in your betting endeavours.

I like how John tries to divert the attention at hand (obvious foul play) with huge pictures advertising an event July 27 LOL

Bad odds, shady contests, and getting muscled around?  Guess that's alright as long as you're grandfathered in as the oldest bitcoin sportsbook LOL

john, you said that your contest winner is just a regular customer... then how you explain that he has a facebook page since 2011 with your address in thhe contact info?

[DirectBet]

I was also mislead with the contest.I'd like to know why there was announced another winner on the meme contest who was chosen with rules which were not declared beforehand.

LOL anonibet truly thinks we're idiots.

How is it that older members that have been around the forum and winning the contest all of a sudden are beaten by brand new accounts who have no other posts other than massive UNBELIEVABLE betslips.

There is no transparency here. You are crooks. Should put up a post in scam accusations regarding this promotion.

The contest was held unproperly.The meme contest should have another winner,the proper winner regarding the rules which were announced before the contest.But there were posted another after the contest was closed.The actual winner was not this.

Yes exactly, my time is very expensive, but I really do care about Bitcoin community and Bitcoin ecosystem. This is why I am spending my time here @ bitcointalk. I really hate when bitcoin users are scammed directly or indirectly. I stated: anonibet.com is SCAM. Believe me, search engines are indexing bitcointalk.org very good and very fast. You are ignoring one simple question, because you have nothing to say. The question was - Please explain us that move:

loool, i can asure you i am a regular customer...i bet for fun

yeah so why did you delete your facebook page immediately after I post if you have nothing to hide? Panicked??

it was there since 2011 and you suddenly remove it?

...luckily google has it cached! everyone go now and see...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

ANONIBET U R A PIECE OF SCAM !!!

It is evident that there are forum members whose part in the contest was just to criticize in the aftermath. As stated earlier, it is not Anonibet business (like any other bitcoin sportsbook) to research on who our Customers are, and we will not be forced into such by false accusations from non customers. Therefore regarding Anonitips, we have a relationship with him as an anonymous customer of Anonibet, just like anyone else. It is alarming the rate at which certain forum members are requesting for proof. This thread is more than enough proof of our transparency as all the bet slips remain here. On the case of Newbies, one other aspect we had when creating the contest was to introduce the forum to Anonibet customers that were not a part of it. Therefore this objective was successfully achieved. Please note that we also highly suspect all these complaints are coming from members who have other books to promote. We do not engage in such antics. We will not answer further to deliberate, false  and baseless accusations. This case on our part ends here.

Regards,

John

I placed 70+ bets on your site and you don't consider me a customer???

... I stopped when I suspected that I am competing against anonibet employees!

And also the winner of the meme contest isn't the one who should be.

Yes exactly, my time is very expensive, but I really do care about Bitcoin community and Bitcoin ecosystem. This is why I am spending my time here @ bitcointalk. I really hate when bitcoin users are scammed directly or indirectly. I stated: anonibet.com is SCAM. Believe me, search engines are indexing bitcointalk.org very good and very fast. You are ignoring one simple question, because you have nothing to say. The question was - Please explain us that move:

loool, i can asure you i am a regular customer...i bet for fun

yeah so why did you delete your facebook page immediately after I post if you have nothing to hide? Panicked??

it was there since 2011 and you suddenly remove it?

...luckily google has it cached! everyone go now and see...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

ANONIBET U R A PIECE OF SCAM !!!

It is not my job to investigate such therefore you are seeking an explanation from the wrong person. Anonitips facebook page is there as of now, and i did not see the part where it was removed. Feel free to contact Anonitips in your own Capacity. Goxcraft, all you have ever done on this thread is to call Anonibet a Scam. Please bring forth evidence of the point at which you were Scammed by Anonibet. Your argument does not hold water and for the sake of not polluting the thread, I will leave you to post as you wish. Instead of spending valuable time replying to baseless scam accusations, i have been instructed not to entertain you further. We have bigger projects we are working on at Anonibet.

Regards,

John

John-

You sound like a nice guy and all... but goxcraft has made it as about as transparent as it's going to get.  There is obvious lying going on here (something no one wants to see from the oldest and supposedly "best" book).  
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize what's going on here....

The only reason I am even getting involved is because I was a victim of bitbook (all documented) and have since turned to an advocate for the bitcoin gambling community.  
I was trying to help out Michael (info@anonibet.com) when he was at a loss of words and had to dispatch you to save the day.  Fact is someone who works for your company won the contest and (very unsuccessfully) attempted to cover his tracks.  Too bad for anonibet that goxcraft is smart and while it probably isn't worth his time, Anonibet isn't looking like this ambassador of a sportsbooks they claim to be.  Forget your crummy odds at this point, you're jacking around us players!

Stuff like this give Bitcoin a bad name and that's the last thing we want!   Wake the f up people.  

LOL anonibet truly thinks we're idiots.

How is it that older members that have been around the forum and winning the contest all of a sudden are beaten by brand new accounts who have no other posts other than massive UNBELIEVABLE betslips.

There is no transparency here. You are crooks. Should put up a post in scam accusations regarding this promotion.

that's a good idea i opened a new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0 what else can we do to alert other people of this scam?

I think you have done a good job of alerting people. They got caught, plain and simple. If they had any integrity at all, they would refund all players coins that played in their little scheme. I don't bet that much, but one thing is for sure, I wont bet at anonibet.

I don't really know much about this contest or who won or anonitips, but just reading over this really quickly one thing was apparent to me.  Just because anonitips' facebook page says its website is anonibet means nothing.  I could go on my facebook and say my site was anonibet as well without any verification...  just something I noticed.  I'm not saying its not very sketchy though!

Ryank that facebook page made on 2011, when Anonibet was started their business, everything can't  be coincidence.

And anonitips just registered his account June 30, 2014, 11:12:13 PM. There is so many thing looks suspicious.

I don't really know much about this contest or who won or anonitips, but just reading over this really quickly one thing was apparent to me.  Just because anonitips' facebook page says its website is anonibet means nothing.  I could go on my facebook and say my site was anonibet as well without any verification...  just something I noticed.  I'm not saying its not very sketchy though!

Ryank that facebook page made on 2011, when Anonibet was started their business, everything can't  be coincidence.

And anonitips just registered his account June 30, 2014, 11:12:13 PM. There is so many thing looks suspicious.

Yup. And why did he get panic and remove that Anonibet link soon after the accusation?

If a book is recommended, a lot of research will be done to help ensure the reputation of peepsplace.com. Here is another thing about Anonibet.

peepsplace

A player was overpaid 15 BTC. Anonibet took full blame for the mistake. They even went so far as to say that the player wasn't a cheat. I don't remember the exact wording but it had the same meaning. The player did pay back anonibet. Anonibet had an outage. Every player that emailed anonibet received .1 BTC for the down time. Anonibet opened in 2011 and has a maximum withdrawal of 500 BTC.

None of the incidents you cite are relevant to this discussion.

I don't really know much about this contest or who won or anonitips, but just reading over this really quickly one thing was apparent to me. Just because anonitips' facebook page says its website is anonibet means nothing.  I could go on my facebook and say my site was anonibet as well without any verification...  just something I noticed.  I'm not saying its not very sketchy though!

"Just because anonitips' facebook page says its website is anonibet means nothing.  I could go on my facebook and say my site was anonibet as well without any verification"

Yes, you could but why would you (or anyone else) unless you were actually connected to them?

Only one I complained about Facebook meme contest about this https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=588961554552303&id=139078896207240

it's not follow the rule they chose most like that below numbers of their page not real member likes

and John Barnes never answer any question about meme. not fair to me.

I don't really know much about this contest or who won or anonitips, but just reading over this really quickly one thing was apparent to me.  Just because anonitips' facebook page says its website is anonibet means nothing.  I could go on my facebook and say my site was anonibet as well without any verification...  just something I noticed.  I'm not saying its not very sketchy though!

Ryank that facebook page made on 2011, when Anonibet was started their business, everything can't  be coincidence.

And anonitips just registered his account June 30, 2014, 11:12:13 PM. There is so many thing looks suspicious.

Yup. And why did he get panic and remove that Anonibet link soon after the accusation?

At worst, anonitips was/is an employee of Anonibet. From the interactions that I've had with Michael, he is very honest. There is no way that he would knowingly be involved in a scam contest.

Peeps, doesn't matter much, because when any company announce contest, they don't allow employee or related to company.
Other thing James was clearly denied that Anonitips ever related to Anonibet. He always said that anonitips also just another Anonibet user.
So many things need to clear from Micheal, and why he is not responding here after so much chaos, his silence also showing suspicions .

Anyone betting here should know that they are being accused of running a scam for the World Cup promotion


Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

No one has been stiffed by Anonibet and they have been open for 4 years. 1st place winner received 10 bitcoins and the 2nd place winner is being ACCUSED of being a shill. You guys should be sued for slander by Anonibet.

How do you know that? Length of time open != full trust

All 3 winners are suspicious imo. And you can go ahead and sue me for slander. You obviously have zero idea how that works.

No one has been stiffed by Anonibet and they have been open for 4 years. 1st place winner received 10 bitcoins and the 2nd place winner is being ACCUSED of being a shill. You guys should be sued for slander by Anonibet.

How do you know that? Length of time open != full trust

All 3 winners are suspicious imo. And you can go ahead and sue me for slander. You obviously have zero idea how that works.

Why would you say that? joeland won 10 BTC by winning the contest. He joined bitcointalk on 4/26 and then made his first post on 6/8. The post was in regards to Webetcoins. On 6/27 joelad made posts concerning the contest with Anonibet.

Peepsplace why you are defending Anonibet, they are even not defending themselves. Do you have any personal interest with Anonibet.

You are not even employee of Anonibet, what is going on. Now more suspicions around.

No one has been stiffed by Anonibet and they have been open for 4 years. 1st place winner received 10 bitcoins and the 2nd place winner is being ACCUSED of being a shill. You guys should be sued for slander by Anonibet.

How do you know that? Length of time open != full trust

All 3 winners are suspicious imo. And you can go ahead and sue me for slander. You obviously have zero idea how that works.

Why would you say that? joeland won 10 BTC by winning the contest. He joined bitcointalk on 4/26 and then made his first post on 6/8. The post was in regards to Webetcoins. On 6/27 joelad made posts concerning the contest with Anonibet.

I wasn't part of this contest but I was monitoring it to see the status of who was playing. The way in which 3 accounts with no posts came in with huge betslips to win every slot is suspicious however you look at. The evidence presented here with anonitips just confirmed what I was thinking. There should be a relatively easy way for anonibet to prove these were real entries and the prizes were paid out properly.

Who cares I like Anonibet... They didn't steal any money... Sry to sound rude but they have been around the longest..

what do u mean they didn't steal?? ...if u disqualify their employees from the contest me and others will be entitled to 3btc, 5btc or 10btc prize!

that's stealing... &quite a lot!

The contest wasn't held properly,the meme contest winner should be the real one,not the one who was chosen after changing the rules at the end.That's the situation now.

Michael,

I understand your point. However, the fact is you were alerted to "suspicious activity" and it's been 6 days now with nothing to further bolster those claims. So the "suspicious activity" alert to halt my withdrawal was based on nothing more than me simply winning. The actions of your company demonstrate that as a fact as there hasn't been any evidence to support otherwise. This is a huge turnoff to players if your third-party providers says, "STOP!...don't pay him!...he won a lot...that's impossible...must have cheated."

If a player could indeed cheat your system (however unlikely that may be), you would think that there would be evidence to support it aside from winning. I won a decent amount fast (without cheating) and that is unacceptable for you guys. But you guys were the ones who put the double-up feature in place. You guys were the ones who decided to allow up to 5 double-ups within a single game. I've been to many casinos where they limit the double to just 1, or put a cap on how much you can win before forcing you to collect the winnings (ie., can't double over 50 credits, etc..) or disable it altogether. If you don't like the risk you took by having your game allow 5 double-ups with no credit cap, then change it. It's gambling, sometimes you guys lose too you know.

I know the allegations of me cheating will not be backed up by proof because there wasn't any cheating. I think the community will also agree with my position that having 6 days go by and have no smoking gun is enough. Again, if a player was to cheat your system then I would think after 6 days of issuing the "Alert" there would be some evidence showing exactly what they were doing, etc... All we have is the fact that I won...which is somehow synonymous with cheating and/or suspicious activity.  

did you receive your winnings after all?

No he did not receive his winnings, we have not paid him. He emailed us and admitted he has manipulated the system. He came up with a proposal to get something from us, stating he is very wise and advanced on technology. He can post the email he has sent to us if he is willing to, we will not disclose his email as part of our privacy policy.

"Get something from you?" It's called a business proposal. In full disclosure to everyone, I did manipulate their game(s)...it's what I do. However, I'm still curious why you didn't address my concern over that last account I made Michael...the trap one? People probably won't understand what I'm referring to so I'll post my email and then you can answer that question. If Anonibet doesn't want my services, no problem...but they did not perform due diligence on one of the accounts I made and confiscated the deposit and winnings based upon it having the same characteristics of my other ones. Then they email me saying I manipulated the games and no funds will be withdrawn, even though I purposefully played that account legit...as a trap so to speak, to see if they will react the same way, AND THEY DID!  So the email sent to me about the Casino Service Provider investigating the account and saw manipulation was a LIE. That account was played 100% legit as it was a test for them...they should pay that one out. Anyway, here is my email so everyone will know what I'm talking about:

We're having quite the cat and mouse game, huh? We can both agree you have a glaring vulnerability with your online casino. We both know that they (Casino Service Provider) do not send alerts to you warning of suspicious activity right away, if at all. At first I thought the accounts were on hold because of the exploit but soon realized it's undetectable (as evidenced by it not being fixed) and the holds are based on newly created accounts mixed in with types of games played and how fast I cashout, etc... This was easy to spot after enough cashout tests. It's apparent that if a cashout comes through with the above-mentioned characteristics it will be put on hold. Not a problem for me cause I can simply blend it in. You may think you "got me" with stopping accounts from being cashed out but you were giving me what I wanted...information. I know exactly what to do now in order to stay under the radar. As each test/account goes by I gain more and more information.

Yesterday I made a new account (kincaidsupplies@hotmail.com), played the same game (blackjack) and cashed out right away. However, this time I didn't deploy the exploit on purpose...not once. I believed so strongly that you would react the same way because it followed the same exact patterns as mentioned above minus the exploit. This was another test...to see if you can distinguish the difference between the two.  For some reason you labeled that account as being used to manipulate the software and the winnings would be confiscated. But we both know it was never really looked at and nothing was found. I know this because I purposefully did not use the exploit for that account so telling me anything different would be moot. No worries though...I won't pass judgment on that based upon the adversarial nature of the business we're in.

So now that I know you guys are being way too over-reactive for any account that follows the same patterns, I have a new protocol for staying under the radar. Again, it's obvious you guys don't know where your weaknesses are and how to fix them. Interestingly enough, the exploit I have is actually only the first one I've tried on your site. When I find something I never continue testing for weaknesses until the current one is done with...in case you get a 2 for 1 on the fix.

Let me get down to why I'm emailing you. I'm offering a partnership of sorts where we agree to a fixed price for giving up the exploit and showing you where your vulnerability is for it. I'm also offering a partnership where we agree to another fixed fee for further testing on your site for more exploits. From my perspective, this makes the most business sense for both of us. I'm extremely confident in my ability to continue on with the exploit and scale it with a new deployment protocol in place, so I'm not at all worried about continuing to make money with this. Again, most of those "you caught me" accounts are nothing more than to extract information on how you are handling this.

I am enclosing a video which is my resume of sorts, one clip of which may be of interest to you. Feel free to respond back via email if you want to discuss this further. Here is the link: http://youtu.be/egkpf7ZvaiI  (make sure volume is on). Thank you for your time.

The contest wasn't held properly,the meme contest winner should be the real one,not the one who was chosen after changing the rules at the end.That's the situation now.

Finally I have someone understand me  

Yes! they changed the rule and change it again and after I complained that rule they beaned me from Anonibet page and almost of my friends unlike that suck page already!

We can both agree you have a glaring vulnerability with your online casino.

thats scary shit! so are you saying that you found a security problem in anonibet that you can use to win every time until they go bankrupt?

Hi all, i see some of you still fighting over my 2.nd place, and i would like to clear things out as much as i can or know... please excuse my grammar mistakes as english is not my 1st language...

ok, i am betting on sports for the last 10 years, it has become my passion, i usualy bet at bwin or bet365, but not long ago, maybe 6 months or so i heard about bitcoin, and than i was looking for a poker site to play poker with bitcoins and somehow i crossed in to anonibet... i have previusly run a fb page caled G spot, and it didnt go as well as i wanted so after playing with anonibet i had a vision that maybe if i can get alot of likes i could recive payments for tips in BTC (for example 0.05 per tip.) so i started with anonitips on fb. I wrote www.anonibet.com on my page because i wanted people to know where i bet and where they can bet with their BTCs. in general to promote what i think is a good beting page, afterall the odds are better then the fiat competition... the page is up and running maybe for 2 or so months not since 2011... on the page is also one ticket from bwin(at that time i didnt have BTC so i bet on bwin), wich has a 5.5 odd won and i showd it.... I AM A REGULAR CUSTOMER, I JOIND THIS FORUM BECAUSE I BET ALOT and i thaught this competition was writen on my skin... so, if you have any questions for me, or what ever do ask... i will post my adresses on wich i deposit my btcs on anonibet soon probobly tomorow when i will have time to go trought my email...

You say 6 months ago you heard about bitcoin but the facebook page is dated to 2011??

Inconsistencies???

Also you just logged in once today just to post this right after anonibet representative makes a post??

Hi all, i see some of you still fighting over my 2.nd place, and i would like to clear things out as much as i can or know... please excuse my grammar mistakes as english is not my 1st language...

ok, i am betting on sports for the last 10 years, it has become my passion, i usualy bet at bwin or bet365, but not long ago, maybe 6 months or so i heard about bitcoin, and than i was looking for a poker site to play poker with bitcoins and somehow i crossed in to anonibet... i have previusly run a fb page caled G spot, and it didnt go as well as i wanted so after playing with anonibet i had a vision that maybe if i can get alot of likes i could recive payments for tips in BTC (for example 0.05 per tip.) so i started with anonitips on fb. I wrote www.anonibet.com on my page because i wanted people to know where i bet and where they can bet with their BTCs. in general to promote what i think is a good beting page, afterall the odds are better then the fiat competition... the page is up and running maybe for 2 or so months not since 2011... on the page is also one ticket from bwin(at that time i didnt have BTC so i bet on bwin), wich has a 5.5 odd won and i showd it.... I AM A REGULAR CUSTOMER, I JOIND THIS FORUM BECAUSE I BET ALOT and i thaught this competition was writen on my skin... so, if you have any questions for me, or what ever do ask... i will post my adresses on wich i deposit my btcs on anonibet soon probobly tomorow when i will have time to go trought my email...

u say your facebook page is 2 months old but facebook says it was opened in 2011 when anonibet started... how do u explain that?

if u scroll down your timeline it says launched may 1 2011 with anonibet logo... why did u put anonibet logo if u r not anonibet?

u say that your english is not good but in your facebook page your english is natural and it says that you are from London uk... explain?

u say that it is just u but on your facebook page u always use the words "we" "us" and "ours" like u r a company... explain?

why did u remove your facebook page right after I posted that u r anonibet?

...after that I posted a google cached version of your facebook page so u realized u can't make it disappear for good so u put it back but removed anonibet address in the contact info... why?

Hope you guys enjoy my meme  

Hope you guys enjoy my meme  

LOL

I had no idea about the meme scam too. Wow. All entries with more than 504 likes are disqualified??? And he told you that his boss told him not to over scrutinize the criteria?? What? For a prize that big I would expect some clear rules and scrunity.

Anonibet is not showing itself to be reputable in my opinion

Never really liked Anonibet.  Almost like the rich kid in school who never had to work and then would rub it in your face when you cleaned his dad's boat..

Anonibet has been caught in a flat out lie and needs to lose some credibility.

At this point, it will be hard to trust this book (or anyone who comes forward and vouches) as Anonibet has demonstrated that they will do anything in an attempt to cover their tracks.

Hey Bitcoin community, IT'S 2014!!!  

Wake up!!!

There are much, much better options!!!

[DirectBet]

Hi all, i see some of you still fighting over my 2.nd place, and i would like to clear things out as much as i can or know... please excuse my grammar mistakes as english is not my 1st language...

ok, i am betting on sports for the last 10 years, it has become my passion, i usualy bet at bwin or bet365, but not long ago, maybe 6 months or so i heard about bitcoin, and than i was looking for a poker site to play poker with bitcoins and somehow i crossed in to anonibet... i have previusly run a fb page caled G spot, and it didnt go as well as i wanted so after playing with anonibet i had a vision that maybe if i can get alot of likes i could recive payments for tips in BTC (for example 0.05 per tip.) so i started with anonitips on fb. I wrote www.anonibet.com on my page because i wanted people to know where i bet and where they can bet with their BTCs. in general to promote what i think is a good beting page, afterall the odds are better then the fiat competition... the page is up and running maybe for 2 or so months not since 2011... on the page is also one ticket from bwin(at that time i didnt have BTC so i bet on bwin), wich has a 5.5 odd won and i showd it.... I AM A REGULAR CUSTOMER, I JOIND THIS FORUM BECAUSE I BET ALOT and i thaught this competition was writen on my skin... so, if you have any questions for me, or what ever do ask... i will post my adresses on wich i deposit my btcs on anonibet soon probobly tomorow when i will have time to go trought my email...

Just another fail attempt, you did not knew about bitcoin and you have made anonitips FB page on 2011,
When you starting to write atleast think so much before saying lying there is so much proof about you lie.

Hope you guys enjoy my meme  

LOL

I had no idea about the meme scam too. Wow. All entries with more than 504 likes are disqualified??? And he told you that his boss told him not to over scrutinize the criteria?? What? For a prize that big I would expect some clear rules and scrunity.

Anonibet is not showing itself to be reputable in my opinion

From 504 liked (More after that posted) to 470 likes after I tweeted how the terrible meme contest cheated me. And this is why I want Annonibet staff show me how many James Melrow's friends liked their page. And what I got ?? I got block from their page LOL. But I feel really  sad because some of my friends still liked that page  

That why I still complained Anonibet. Very very wasted my times.!!





And this is what I found from James Melrow's profile picture..... http://goo.gl/jPP5xq IT"S FAKE !!!!

https://www.facebook.com/james.melrow?fref=ufi

LOL HOW SMELL FISHYYYY

Still waiting on why my account (kincaidsupplies@hotmail.com) has not been paid out and why I was informed that I manipulated their gaming software and wasn't going to be paid, when in fact, I purposefully didn't do it on that account to see if they would react the same way to the other account I made. I kept receiving the same generic template email from them for the various accounts I made in regards to the suspicious activity...and they were correct in their accusations. However, on my kincaidsupplies@hotmail.com account they sent the same email.

So this means they DID NOT look into the matter and the Casino Service Provider DID NOT send them a report of any kind for that account. They lied because it was more convenient for them to do so rather than truly looking into the account and game play. I challenge them to produce those documents showing I manipulated their game for that account. I'm cool with the other accounts because I did execute some methods on those...but not this one. They even said in their generic emails that I was free to withdraw my initial deposit, however I'm still unable to do that at the very least. But for the kincaidsupplies@hotmail.com account, it should be my withdrawal plus winnings. It's only about .25 BTC so this goes to show who they really are. If anyone of you would have made a new account, deposited money and played blackjack then tried to cashout right away over the last couple weeks, they would have sent you the same email even though you didn't do anything...just like they did with the kincaidsupplies@hotmail.com account. Here's their generic email that's no more than a copy/paste job from previous emails I've received. Problem is though, THIS ACCOUNT WAS PLAYED LEGITIMATELY ON PURPOSE TO TEST THEM ON IF THEY WOULD REACT THE SAME WAY...AND THEY DID!


We have received a report from the Casino services provider and you did not play fairly in our casino. First and foremost It is stated in all our games’ common rules that “A malfunction voids all pays and plays.” Therefore, any attempt to somehow manipulate and change the game process from initially programmed one can be considered a malfunction, even if initially overseen by our side. It has been noted that instead of playing the game through the given interface, you decided to send manual requests to the casino and this is prohibited as such manipulation is used solely to gain unfair advantage therefore not tolerated at all.

You also made request change attempts for multiple games while checking for vulnerabilities. I am sure you are fully aware the logs cannot be sent to you as they are confidential and can be use in further manipulations therefore I would like to announce to you that your winnings will be confiscated, and you are free to withdraw the initial mBTC that you deposited.  

To you KnightD and your fellow friends,

Anonibet does not owe you an explanation regarding the meme contest rather i will shed more light to the community. First and foremost, Anonibet did not require anyone to be our customer in order to participate, and second of all, this contest was not a case of hunting for likes(in which case you have proved that is what you did). There was no bitcoin taken from you to participate. Considering there were no betting conditions related to contest, there was no need for me, as the contest coordinator to spend too much time on the meme results, so i came up with the fairest possible solution , which was to cut out all those with spam likes(logic would have me make the number of page likes as the cut off point) Naturally you would have been next to go as it seemed you went on to start intimidating fellow contestants therefore you deserved to be disqualified at that point seeing that you go by the books.

James Melrow had 372 likes on his meme compared to your 201, and the nature of Facebook pages does not enable easy comparison. For your Information, if i had followed that procedure, would have gone through at least 573 people(considering only you two) and then for each i would need to check on whether they liked the page or not. Mind you when you are viewing the people who have liked your page on facebook, you will do it in groups of 10. You sound to have so much logic in what you say, therefore i am sure you can estimate the time it would taken for such a process. The bottom line here is, you wanted to win at all costs and that did not happen nor will it change. You are free to spam as you wish as i have noticed you will not give up , Forum members can digest the criteria used and come up with their conclusions.

As the contest coordinator, i am open to positive criticism, which can help us plan better when you do future contests. Those that are calling the contest a spam have hidden agendas. Please bring forth any case where we scammed you and we will rectify it.

Regards,

John

Forgot it? Do I spam??? or you can't accept the truth hahaha??

As I said earlier, the meme contest is just for our community, the Anonibet facebook community. I will give an example, Country X may host elections, the world always wants certain individuals to win, but only those with Id`s of country X will be eligible voters. Anonibet seeks to use its facebook page as a platform where we can have interaction with punters who advocate for bitcoin betting, therefore even if a person has 10 000 likes, if only 5 of them have liked the page, then he will have 5 likes in the contest.

I hope i have answered you well,

Regards,

John

And finally Alan's meme deleted. What did I wrong ? LOL
This is my timeline message between me and ............... fill the blank




AND THIS POINT IS DID YOU FOLLOW THE RULE THAT ANNOUNCED ?

AND YESS!! I WON"T GIVE UP I'M REALLY FUN TO EXPOSE

CONSIDER YOURSELF BEFORE SAID I SPAM AT LEAST I DON'T SCAMMM

Dear Anonibet Friends,

First of all I would like to acknowledge joelad for coming forward as he is the Winner of this competition. We held this contest on this thread so that we could be as open to the community as we ever could. However, it seems that those that do not want our success have used the platform to attack us. It is because of that that we are calling to all our Winners to kindly display their wallet addresses that they use with Anonibet, so that the community can see the light of this issue. It may not be the most comfortable thing to do for our Valued Customers who won prizes and we sincerely apologize, but it will probably be the best way to prove to the community that all winners have been betting with us for a long period even before the World Cup, and also some have withdrawn their prizes after they were paid to them. Forum members have mentioned an audit, and with the anonymous nature of Bitcoin, this would serve best to clarify any queries the disgruntled members may have.

Regards,

Michael

Michael... first u scamm me and now u r insulting me by calling me an idiot... how exactly showing a bitcoin address will prove that your contest winners were not anonibet employees?? I expect a gold member of bitcoin foundation to know that bitcoin is anonymous...

Michael... i asked u a simple question... you said that your contest winner is just a regular customer... how you explain that he has a facebook page since 2011 with your address and logo in the contact info?

Let us opt out of your ridiculous manual withdrawal bullshit, too.  I should be able to withdraw funds whenever I want.  The e-mail code for verification is more security than most other places even have in the first place, let alone your additional wait time for manual processing.  Now I can't live bet on Anonibet or Cloudbet because I have to wait for you to manually process my transfer request?  Seriously, fire whoever manually processes transfer requests and eliminate that requirement.  I just saved you on your expenses and now your company makes more money and your customers are happier.

Toss me a percentage of the savings for doing you such a favor.

Still waiting for why they are not paying out account kincaidsupplies@hotmail.com and why they claimed that account cheated after an "investigation," when in fact, it was played normally on purpose to test their "Casino Service Provider investigation" claim. They lied, plain and simple. Anonibet=You don't cheat us...we cheat you. Feel free to explain your position Anonibet. You sent an email stating that account manipulated your system after an investigation, but no investigation took place and that account was set up for the sole reason to play normally and catch you in that "investigation" lie.

nowhere in the rules it was written that you can not win multiple prizes, i cant believe joeld gave up on his prize so easily he must also be part of anonibet
rosmak the third place winner said he does not care if anonitips is an employee or not, i also dont believe that. if anonitips is an employee he should be disqualified and rosmak should receive the second place prize, if he was real he would also feel scammed
It looks like all three winners are anonitbet employees!

why r u answering everyone who did not play in the contest but not to me? I did play in the contest!!!

u said your contest winner is just a regular customer... how u explain he has a facebook page since 2011 with your address and logo in the contact info?

... or u say he is employee and its ok?

I still wait for your reply anonitips...

Hi all, i see some of you still fighting over my 2.nd place, and i would like to clear things out as much as i can or know... please excuse my grammar mistakes as english is not my 1st language...

ok, i am betting on sports for the last 10 years, it has become my passion, i usualy bet at bwin or bet365, but not long ago, maybe 6 months or so i heard about bitcoin, and than i was looking for a poker site to play poker with bitcoins and somehow i crossed in to anonibet... i have previusly run a fb page caled G spot, and it didnt go as well as i wanted so after playing with anonibet i had a vision that maybe if i can get alot of likes i could recive payments for tips in BTC (for example 0.05 per tip.) so i started with anonitips on fb. I wrote www.anonibet.com on my page because i wanted people to know where i bet and where they can bet with their BTCs. in general to promote what i think is a good beting page, afterall the odds are better then the fiat competition... the page is up and running maybe for 2 or so months not since 2011... on the page is also one ticket from bwin(at that time i didnt have BTC so i bet on bwin), wich has a 5.5 odd won and i showd it.... I AM A REGULAR CUSTOMER, I JOIND THIS FORUM BECAUSE I BET ALOT and i thaught this competition was writen on my skin... so, if you have any questions for me, or what ever do ask... i will post my adresses on wich i deposit my btcs on anonibet soon probobly tomorow when i will have time to go trought my email...

u say your facebook page is 2 months old but facebook says it was opened in 2011 when anonibet started... how do u explain that?

if u scroll down your timeline it says launched may 1 2011 with anonibet logo... why did u put anonibet logo if u r not anonibet?

u say that your english is not good but in your facebook page your english is natural and it says that you are from London uk... explain?

u say that it is just u but on your facebook page u always use the words "we" "us" and "ours" like u r a company... explain?

why did u remove your facebook page right after I posted that u r anonibet?

...after that I posted a google cached version of your facebook page so u realized u can't make it disappear for good so u put it back but removed anonibet address in the contact info... why?

Anonibet, the winner's name was anonitips?  This is WAY too obvious guys...and the evidence that Legend points to, frankly, seems pretty cut and dry.  How can anyone trust a site that would do something like this?  

Then I looked at your proof, about the winner coming forward, and you're saying you'll post his wallet address?  that doesn't prove anything at all...

Let us opt out of your ridiculous manual withdrawal bullshit, too.  I should be able to withdraw funds whenever I want.  The e-mail code for verification is more security than most other places even have in the first place, let alone your additional wait time for manual processing.  Now I can't live bet on Anonibet or Cloudbet because I have to wait for you to manually process my transfer request?  Seriously, fire whoever manually processes transfer requests and eliminate that requirement.  I just saved you on your expenses and now your company makes more money and your customers are happier.

Toss me a percentage of the savings for doing you such a favor.

Agree. Manual withdrawal is primitive, especially with the 8 or 10 hour downtime when there are no manual withdrawals at all because no one is minding the store during those hours.


John Barnes - "Thank you for your concern, Anonibet thrives to make all its customers happy. However, regarding the withdrawals, the security concern goes beyond just receiving your email code therefore we will remain with manual withdrawal."

Can you explain how manual is more secure?


Has auto withdrawal caused any problems for any of the books who use that method?

Post here if your book has had security problems due to auto withdrawal which would have been solved by manual withdrawals.




Manual withdrawal caused Anonibet to double pay one client a large amount of btc. The client refused to return the coins, then gambled with them and paid back when it won.
How was this more secure?
Auto withdrawal would not have permitted this double payment.

I generally like Anonibet and what they provide, but today they have taken about 12 hours to grade one of my bets... couldn't get any bets in for the rest of the day.

Still no sufficient answers to the World Cup Scam Contest and now anoniscam running more promos?

Still no sufficient answers to the World Cup Scam Contest and now anoniscam running more promos?

+1 LOL Totally agree  

Still no sufficient answers to the World Cup Scam Contest and now anoniscam running more promos?

+1 LOL Totally agree  

+1 Also, still no answer to stealing funds from account kincaidsupplies@hotmail.com  

Anonibet=Players don't cheat us...we cheat them!

Anonibet is a SCAM! They cheated me and others out of 22btc in their world cup contest! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

why be affiliate of scam book? its no good karma to help scams... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

why be affiliate of scam book? its no good karma to help scams... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

Don't flame/spam the thread with this kind of shit. It isn't a scam, and never will be (hopefully). Sucks you got "scammed", just don't cry on here to make yourself feel better.

maybe u don't know... anonibet cheated me and others 22 btc read here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0 I proved it...

I won't ever be using anonibet again.

There needs to be some sort of audit to prove these funds were distributed properly.

Very suspicious unfortunately, this is why there are things like the Competition Commission etc. in fiat currency promotions - to make sure things like this don't happen!

Any company that gives big prizes need to be audited. I know of one popular web site that gave away a very expensive grand prize, the winner was the sites owner...So, Im sure this happens on a regular basis. they either take the winnings themselves or just dont give it to a real winner.

We all forgetting 1 points Anonitips FB page made on may 2011, when Anonibet started their business, not everything can be coincidence that someone like so much Anonibet since begining and never registered account on bitcointalk, and when big contest announced by Anonibet and suddenly he registered account just for contest.

UPDATE 2 : there are claims in anonibet thread that they also cheated in their 2 btc meme contest... they changed the rules after the contest was already over and did not award the winnings to the person who was supposed to win it based on the rules that were announced before the contest... that's now a total scam of 22 btc!!! https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=588961554552303&id=139078896207240

UPDATE 2 : there are claims in anonibet thread that they also cheated in their 2 btc meme contest... they changed the rules after the contest was already over and did not award the winnings to the person who was supposed to win it based on the rules that were announced before the contest... that's now a total scam of 22 btc!!! https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=588961554552303&id=139078896207240

I won't be using anonibet ever again. This is edgy and really fucked up. I hope this gets resolved, but I highly doubt it.
Good luck dude!

Not only the bet contest it include meme contest too.

Check this guys https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7918311#msg7918311

as of now anonibet still did not explain how come their contest winner has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info... i caught them cheating and there is no way out for them except admitting but they remain silent...

please vote in the sport books rankings by users thread... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0
help me spread the word and warn other users by giving anonibet a rating of 1... no one will play there anymore if they will have a low rating...

they cheated me and others out of 22btc... hopefully some bad publicity will teach them that it is not worth to cheat us customers!

My new post hope others enjoy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7922994#msg7922994

and my response after someone responsed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7924843#msg7924843

another scam from anonibet... they did not pay the 2btc prize for the unluckiest bet slip... they say it is because joelad the person who was supposed to win it won first place prize and can not take both prizes, but nowhere in the contest terms did it say that... so once again they changed the rules after the contest was already over...

... also, if joelad was a real customer I am sure he would have at least attempt to claim his prize but he didn't request it and didn't complain so I believe he is anonibet employee too... a real customer will not give up on his prize so quickly!

Still no appropriate response by anonibet staff and now they are running more promotions.

Looks like they hope to sweep this event under the rug and hope people forget about it

Anonibet cheated me in their world cup contest!!!

They participated in their own contest to keep the money for themselves!!!



AAAAARARRRRRRGGGGG!!! I feel soooo dumb... should have known better!

opened a new account to participate in their contest. NO WAAY I play there other wise... their odds are very bad but I figured with the extra 20 btc from the contest it could worth it... placed many bets for a few days and earned 65 points... at that time first place had only 9 points...

As soon as I posted my bets here something very weird happened... all of a sudden two completely newbies who just opened their bitcoin talk accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me.

I suspected it was Anonibet participating in their own contest but had no way to prove figured I have no chance beating them so I stopped... cost me 0.55 BTC trying!!!

...then I came across the profile of one of the winners...












UPDATE :  immediately after my post anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

luckily, google has the original facebook page cached with anonibet.com address in the contact info :

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9rf8ywtQbEEJ:www.facebook.com/pages/AnoniTips/547383592049788+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

anonibet claims the winner is just a regular customer and did not want to explain how come he has a facebook page since 2011 with their address in the contact info.

UPDATE 2 : there are claims in anonibet thread that they also cheated in their 2 btc meme contest... they changed the rules after the contest was already over and did not award the winnings to the person who was supposed to win it based on the rules that were announced before the contest... that's now a total scam of 22 btc!!! https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=588961554552303&id=139078896207240

UPDATE 3 : as of now anonibet still did not explain how come their contest winner has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info... i caught them cheating and there is no way out for them except admitting but they remain silent...

please vote in the sport books rankings by users thread... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0
help me spread the word and warn other users by giving anonibet a rating of 1... no one will play there anymore if they will have a low rating...

they cheated me and others out of 22btc... hopefully some bad publicity will teach them that it is not worth to cheat us customers!

UPDATE 4 : another scam from anonibet... they did not pay the 2btc prize for the unluckiest bet slip... they say it is because joelad the person who was supposed to win it won first place prize and can not take both prizes, but nowhere in the contest terms did it say that... so once again they changed the rules after the contest was already over...

... also, if joelad was a real customer I am sure he would have at least attempt to claim his prize but he didn't request it and didn't complain so I believe he is anonibet employee too... a real customer will not give up on his prize so quickly!

UPDATE 5 : anonibet boss Michael come back to me and say he has no clue who is the contest winner anonitips and why he has anonibet address and logo in contact info... do you believe Michael has no clue who is this guy ?

[Peeps Place]

Is there a way to lock this thread or make it self moderated. I want to start a self moderated thread in which only books would be moderated.

[DirectBet]

Is there a way to lock this thread or make it self moderated. I want to start a self moderated thread in which only books would be moderated.

I thought you wanted some posters feedback. I'm just helping you collect them.