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March 25, 2014, 01:50:55 PM |
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Let's get this discussion back on track. Skimmed last few pages but it seems to have died out a bit. This is probably some kind of MITM attack as the user was connected to a fake pool after disconnection. The question is where this MITM attack was performed.
I've noted a common element between CleverMining, Wafflepool and Multipool.us, all of which have users claiming to be affected. All 3 use us-west stratum servers hosted by Digital Ocean. I haven't checked all the stratum servers in different regions, but this certainly is a common enough element to add to the consideration. It might be possible that misconfiguration on DO's side has opened up some attack vectors on these stratum servers.
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doge: D8q8dR6tEAcaJ7U65jP6AAkiiL2CFJaHah Automated faucet, pays daily: Qoinpro
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March 25, 2014, 01:52:53 PM |
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Okay, one heretic question. Is it possible clever mine to start mining/trading scrypt-n/scrypt-jane and thus do a better profitability. May be it is too early for such step, there are not a lot of those coins.
Dont think so. Because then how will he check who is using ACIS miners?
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March 25, 2014, 03:07:10 PM |
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Okay, one heretic question. Is it possible clever mine to start mining/trading scrypt-n/scrypt-jane and thus do a better profitability. May be it is too early for such step, there are not a lot of those coins.
Dont think so. Because then how will he check who is using ACIS miners? Couldn't you just put a scrypt-n switcher stratum on another port? ASICs/scrypt miners could have :3333 while scrypt-n is :3334, etc.
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March 25, 2014, 03:45:01 PM |
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Okay, one heretic question. Is it possible clever mine to start mining/trading scrypt-n/scrypt-jane and thus do a better profitability. May be it is too early for such step, there are not a lot of those coins.
Dont think so. Because then how will he check who is using ACIS miners? Couldn't you just put a scrypt-n switcher stratum on another port? ASICs/scrypt miners could have :3333 while scrypt-n is :3334, etc. If "cleverining" is possible on scrypt-n coins then this will help a lot.
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March 25, 2014, 04:33:16 PM |
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Okay, one heretic question. Is it possible clever mine to start mining/trading scrypt-n/scrypt-jane and thus do a better profitability. May be it is too early for such step, there are not a lot of those coins.
Dont think so. Because then how will he check who is using ACIS miners? Couldn't you just put a scrypt-n switcher stratum on another port? ASICs/scrypt miners could have :3333 while scrypt-n is :3334, etc. If "cleverining" is possible on scrypt-n coins then this will help a lot. the short answer is NO - in order to mine other algorithms beside scrypt, cgminer or another program needs to actually initiate with that mining protocol. Clever mining simply gives/receives scrypt hashes that can be applied to whatever the coin is at the time. The stratum proxy CANNOT direct cgminer to switch algorithms at this point in time. To do so would almost certainly require an advanced command to modify the configuration file from 'scrypt' to 'n-scrypt' followed by a quit/restart command. Cgminer does not allow that and it should never allow that IMO as it would create a massive backdoor for stratum/pool to modify files on your computer and issue program commands If you thought being forced into some other pool was a terrible attack, imagine if your cgminer was fed instructions to modify its .conf file to overclock/overvolt your GPU way past limits and re-initiate.
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March 25, 2014, 05:01:58 PM |
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Okay, one heretic question. Is it possible clever mine to start mining/trading scrypt-n/scrypt-jane and thus do a better profitability. May be it is too early for such step, there are not a lot of those coins.
Dont think so. Because then how will he check who is using ACIS miners? Couldn't you just put a scrypt-n switcher stratum on another port? ASICs/scrypt miners could have :3333 while scrypt-n is :3334, etc. If "cleverining" is possible on scrypt-n coins then this will help a lot. the short answer is NO - in order to mine other algorithms beside scrypt, cgminer or another program needs to actually initiate with that mining protocol. Clever mining simply gives/receives scrypt hashes that can be applied to whatever the coin is at the time. The stratum proxy CANNOT direct cgminer to switch algorithms at this point in time. To do so would almost certainly require an advanced command to modify the configuration file from 'scrypt' to 'n-scrypt' followed by a quit/restart command. Cgminer does not allow that and it should never allow that IMO as it would create a massive backdoor for stratum/pool to modify files on your computer and issue program commands If you thought being forced into some other pool was a terrible attack, imagine if your cgminer was fed instructions to modify its .conf file to overclock/overvolt your GPU way past limits and re-initiate. The idea is to use one engine for scrypt coins and another for scrypt-n. Everybody decides where to mine depening on the profitability.
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March 25, 2014, 05:04:29 PM |
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I received a payout on March 25, 2014 1:30am TXID: afb5b81536131c3972b4d49e97e1bb8a60e016e4dc13984e7702229c9318fc5d
The transaction hasn't confirmed as the block it was included on (292341) is orphaned.
What should I do now? Must CleverMining.com resend the transaction?
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Xenocyde
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March 25, 2014, 08:28:45 PM |
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I received a payout on March 25, 2014 1:30am TXID: afb5b81536131c3972b4d49e97e1bb8a60e016e4dc13984e7702229c9318fc5d
The transaction hasn't confirmed as the block it was included on (292341) is orphaned.
What should I do now? Must CleverMining.com resend the transaction?
I have the same problem. My wallet is on BlockChain and transaction is unconfirmed, although my total sum calculates the money including this transaction as well, so I'm not sure if I'm missing any money right now.
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Xenocyde
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March 25, 2014, 08:35:13 PM |
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Thanks Terk
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March 25, 2014, 09:35:41 PM |
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Thanks Terk I will also try importing my blockchain wallet into multibit and see what it shows.
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March 25, 2014, 10:55:59 PM |
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hi,
im using a gridseed with scripta on the raspberry pi. The problem is at my user stats it says no kHs Rate, but at scripta the gridseed is running an showing hashrate.
At other pools it works well!
Thanks
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Terk (OP)
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March 25, 2014, 11:37:29 PM |
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hi,
im using a gridseed with scripta on the raspberry pi. The problem is at my user stats it says no kHs Rate, but at scripta the gridseed is running an showing hashrate.
At other pools it works well!
Thanks
Can't even check anything if you don't tell me your username.
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March 25, 2014, 11:53:07 PM |
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17Ag2QAjrKYStqNCRaX5hx77Wwqx2a2PZ1
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Terk (OP)
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March 26, 2014, 12:04:03 AM |
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17Ag2QAjrKYStqNCRaX5hx77Wwqx2a2PZ1
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All seems fine but you just started mining. I need to change this as it confuses too many people, but the website shows data with an 1-1.5h delay after you started mining. You have a realtime chart a little below on your user page and it shows realtime data. This realtime chart shows you hashing at ~400 kH/s but with 30% rejected (no idea why it's so high, the pool average is much much lower), so your total hashrate sent to the pool is ~570 kH/s of which 400 kH/s was accepted and 170 kH/s rejected.
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March 26, 2014, 12:05:35 AM |
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ok thanks for helping
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March 26, 2014, 02:20:33 AM |
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US west is down for me.
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Terk (OP)
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March 26, 2014, 02:45:58 AM |
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US west is down for me. US West is doing fine and didn't have any downtime or decreased hashrate.
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March 26, 2014, 02:54:36 AM |
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What ever came of the re-direct thing from the last few days? I wasn't affected, but it was interesting to read about...
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