[ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com

[byt411]

hello all! sorry for my noob question about auto payment scheme, how long does it take till i get paid from CM, More than 36 hours after i has started mining
this my mining status
Immature   0.00575659 BTC
Unexchanged   0.00429475 BTC
Ready For Payout   0.02201902 BTC
Total Expected   0.03207036 BTC

kind regards!

You probably typed in the address wrong. Worker suffixes are not allowed, username should be BTC address only.

[1714898331]

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[kalus]

I know all that but other people just digging in CM run like hell when they see fake rejects and no explanation in OP or site FAQ. Doesn't matter byt411 can answer people's question if people don't care to ask what's wrong and run away from CM at the site of all those fake rejects. My point is Terk should explain this clearly in the site FAQ at least.

it's a network-miner-pool issue, and not a pool issue. it's explained in plain english by ckolivas, the cgminer developer, almost a year ago.

and as for people 'run like hell', the cm pool hashrate is currently increasing, not decreasing.  my observation is people come and go based on profitability.

[Xenocyde]

I know all that but other people just digging in CM run like hell when they see fake rejects and no explanation in OP or site FAQ. Doesn't matter byt411 can answer people's question if people don't care to ask what's wrong and run away from CM at the site of all those fake rejects. My point is Terk should explain this clearly in the site FAQ at least.

it's a network-miner-pool issue, and not a pool issue. it's explained in plain english by ckolivas, the cgminer developer, almost a year ago.

and as for people 'run like hell', the cm pool hashrate is currently increasing, not decreasing.  my observation is people come and go based on profitability.

Noone cares to read any miner faq, trust me. Things have to be clearly explained by the pool operator.
And I'm referring to people who are just getting into mining, not experienced miners. These people run like hell.

[kalus]

Noone cares to read any miner faq, trust me. Things have to be clearly explained by the pool operator.

If 'no one reads any miner faq', then why would they read a pool faq?

And I'm referring to people who are just getting into mining, not experienced miners. These people run like hell.

that's what happens when you start in the deep end.  

For people just getting into mining, i'd recommend dogecoin.

[hashfun]

Hello,

I have more then 10 worker should i genrate 10 BTC Address? or use same on all?

[byt411]

Hello,

I have more then 10 worker should i genrate 10 BTC Address? or use same on all?

You can use the same one if you don't care about individual stats.

DO NOT use something like 1FSrnfduyNpckXbA7ncgH7wbf1oBHs4ML.worker1
Leave it as 1FSrnfduyNpckXbA7ncgH7wbf1oBHs4ML

[hashfun]

Hello,

I have more then 10 worker should i genrate 10 BTC Address? or use same on all?

You can use the same one if you don't care about individual stats.

DO NOT use something like 1FSrnfduyNpckXbA7ncgH7wbf1oBHs4ML.worker1
Leave it as 1FSrnfduyNpckXbA7ncgH7wbf1oBHs4ML

Thank You

[brwn8484]

I am running two gpu rigs and 11 Gridseed miners.

Rig 1  2.6 MH/s
Rig 2  2.0 MH/s
GS    3.1 MH/s

But cleverming is only showing 5.6 MH/s?  should be at least 7MH/s?  Anyone else having problems?

any ideas?

[larockiesar]

No good ideas, but having the same issue.  In trying 800 MHz and 900MHz each separately for about 24 hours, I received even lower hash rates on CM.

I'm running 20 Gridseeds, RaPi, and CGMiner 3.7.2 showing ~7.2Mh/s on miner, but only showing up ~5.0Mh/s on CM.  That puts each GS averaging about 250 Kh/s on CM, but showing 360 Kh/s on CGMiner.  My GS have fairly equal accepted work, are mining pretty efficiently at 850 MHz, with minimal (0-3) HW errors per unit per 24 hours.  Reject rate is just over 1%.

I'd too would like comments back if others are experiencing lower hash rates on CM and any tweeks or adjustments to increase real, recognized hash rates on CM.  Hey - not complaining though - with the recent ~200% returns, it was like getting real 500 KH/s from each GS! 

Thanks for a great pool and the professional efforts/information from everyone!

[lk_qwerty]

how should we think about the old unexchanged balances (~11 BTC more than 2 weeks old)? are these effectively like stales after the fact?

http://www.clevermining.com/balances

[JaxonBTC]

 

Hello,

I have more then 10 worker should i genrate 10 BTC Address? or use same on all?

I believe you can do either depending on your preference.  I have 5 workers all on 1 BTC address.

[brwn8484]

Yes my miners have been slowly losing hash rate until they shut down completely on CM.  So I switched to ipominer, CINNI and they had problems with cinni servers and again my miners shutdown, but never switched to backup.  So down all day.   Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

So I switched back to CM and gridseeds shutdown again.   Not sure what is going on?

[bruiser]

Yes my miners have been slowly losing hash rate until they shut down completely on CM.  So I switched to ipominer, CINNI and they had problems with cinni servers and again my miners shutdown, but never switched to backup.  So down all day.   Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

So I switched back to CM and gridseeds shutdown again.   Not sure what is going on?

What software/os on the grids?

[GolfCabalist]

Yes my miners have been slowly losing hash rate until they shut down completely on CM.  So I switched to ipominer, CINNI and they had problems with cinni servers and again my miners shutdown, but never switched to backup.  So down all day.   Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

So I switched back to CM and gridseeds shutdown again.   Not sure what is going on?

I had a day when all my gridseeds shut down at once.  I did "this and that" and they finally started up.
I left the house, came back.  Again they all shut down.

Long story short, I finally concluded that plugging my phone into a port on the front of the computer that runs my mining software was what caused it.

Pardon me for not qualifying what "this and that" includes,  nor detailing what mining software I am using and etc.  I tied a knot in the cable that I was using to charge my phone so I would recognize it and never use it again (but I kept it in case I wanted to prove it was the culprit).

...I use a USB mapping utility called UsbTreeView, and on its diagram the port where my phone was plugged in, it showed a yellow "i" indicating a problem. 

I am not suggesting that your telephone is causing your problem, but rather I am encouraging you to maybe look elsewhere besides the gridseeds and power supply, as I had to do.

[boxofspuds]

so I may have missed this in the many pages here, but have we ever gotten an API?

The whole cloudflare/ddos protection stuff is nice to keep the pool up, but incredibly annoying for both checking hte pages and trying to write data scrapers to track my performance.

If there is no API (still) any one have any suggestions on how to scrape data from their miner pages?  I cant seem to get around the cloudflare junk

[Dabs]

Isolate your mining computer and don't connect anything to it? My mining computer is not used for any other purpose. No problems.

@boxofspuds, the only info from clevermining is from a web page that includes your BTC address. No individual workers. So all you can see are hashrate, rejects and current coins earned / balance.

[GolfCabalist]

so I may have missed this in the many pages here, but have we ever gotten an API?

The whole cloudflare/ddos protection stuff is nice to keep the pool up, but incredibly annoying for both checking hte pages and trying to write data scrapers to track my performance.

If there is no API (still) any one have any suggestions on how to scrape data from their miner pages?  I cant seem to get around the cloudflare junk

I am having the same problem in trying to "data scrape" as you call it.  I read on the CloudFlare site that their protection does not prevent web crawlers from scanning the site (so I am confident we can find a way to do it), and I'm thinking what I will try next is to write code to accept their cookie(s).  Of course, my guess is worthless until I have it running.

What I unsuccessfully tried in php was to file_get_contents, then do a javascript setTimeout of 10 seconds, after which I do a window.location.reload.  

[boxofspuds]

so I may have missed this in the many pages here, but have we ever gotten an API?

The whole cloudflare/ddos protection stuff is nice to keep the pool up, but incredibly annoying for both checking hte pages and trying to write data scrapers to track my performance.

If there is no API (still) any one have any suggestions on how to scrape data from their miner pages?  I cant seem to get around the cloudflare junk

I am having the same problem in trying to "data scrape" as you call it.  I read on the CloudFlare site that their protection does not prevent web crawlers from scanning the site (so I am confident we can find a way to do it), and I'm thinking what I will try next is to write code to accept their cookie(s).  Of course, my guess is worthless until I have it running.

What I unsuccessfully tried in php was to file_get_contents, then do a javascript setTimeout of 10 seconds, after which I do a window.location.reload.  

hmmm, well i guess if they say web crawlers can scan it, there has to be a way. what's the link where you read this?

I went the python route a few weeks back, but got no where.  After reading your post, i fired wireshark back up and it looks like there's a hidden form that needs some special key to return in order to let us through ... so I also think we'll need some code to accept their cookie/whatever and respond back similar to how a browser would.  still kind of pain to grab some data  

update: ok so i did some digging. got this from the cloudflare site:
Javascript and cookies are required for the tests, and to record the fact that the tests were correctly passed. The page which your visitors see when in IUAM can be fully customized to reflect your branding. I'm Under Attack mode does not block search engine crawlers or your existing CloudFlare whitelist.

My guess is they whitelisted known and allowed search engine crawlers which is why those bots work where as ours dont.  Add to it that it looks like Terk opted to put the domain in a permanent I'm Under Attack Mode and we are where we are. So pretty much we need to mimic the expected behavior if we want anything to work ... lovely

[brwn8484]

What software/os on the grids?

It is Linux ...MinePeon on Rasp Pi.   It is a problem that continues.  This morning on Multipool all 11 GS's appeared to shut down.  0 hashing but Rasp Pi was still running and all 11 rigs were running?  This is frustrating!

Anyway had to restart the miners manually, no failover although the MinePeon software is supposed to switch to backup automatically.

[brwn8484]

Ok... I'll try to explain this problem again and hopefully someone else has experience and can help me.

Problem #1:  11 GS miners hashing power degrading and not maintaining advertised hash rates.  This is a  problem on 3 sites currently.  I continue to see the hash rate degrade on MP, IPOM and CM.  It does not matter the coin or site.  GS's supposedly should run at 0.333MH/s but mine are degrading over time until all 11 are at 0.27MH/s.   

  Suggestions I have tried but will not work... MP suggested setting share difficulty to 64.  Tried but no improvement observed.
                                                                 Mine on equip set for mining only.  Rasp Pi is dedicated 100% to GS mining. i.e. suggestion no help!
                                                                 
Problem #2:  Eventually, all 11 miners will shutdown... MinePeon shows no miners active even though miners are still running?  Failover fails (no pun) and backup pools never activated even though software is set and supposedly is capable of restarting on backup?


Here are my settings from MinePeon.... Please if anyone has success running GS's with minepeon and can give me some real help, please contact me.

#!/bin/bash
sleep 10
/usr/bin/screen -dmS miner /opt/minepeon/bin/bfgminer -S all -c /opt/minepeon/etc/miner.conf --scrypt --set-device gridseed:clock=805