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Author Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com  (Read 554361 times)
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October 04, 2014, 09:47:41 PM
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Hey there... Is there anyone who might be willing to share what kind of payout they get with roughly 27-30 MH/s of hashing on this pool?

Thanks!

Uhhh... Simple math, multiply your MH/s by the average BTC/MHs/Day.
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October 05, 2014, 07:29:34 AM
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Hey there... Is there anyone who might be willing to share what kind of payout they get with roughly 27-30 MH/s of hashing on this pool?

Thanks!

Uhhh... Simple math, multiply your MH/s by the average BTC/MHs/Day.

Depends if you aim at 27-30 poolside or hardwareside. That might differ with all the coinswitching.
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October 05, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
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Reasons why I have very reluctantly left this pool: Cry
1. The hash rate as shown by the pool is sometimes substantially less than the hash rate shown by the miner and I have no explanation for that, and don't know whether that means the miner is earning less than it is capable of.
2. I have 6 miners, so I need 6 web pages open to monitor what each miner is doing. I could lump them all under one address, but then I cannot see which miner is playing up.
3. I coincidentally joined the pool at a time BtC was taking a dive. Any increased profit there may have been from the pool were offset by BtC losses.
4. No facility to counteract 3. above by selecting a scrypt coin payout, after all I am using scrypt miners because I wanted to mine for scrypt coins.
5. To sum up, I have no evidence that I'm better off with this pool, and the statistics are lacking or too difficult to gather, to enable me to get a good comparison.

I suspect this pool does have benefits and will try it again at some time in the future.
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October 05, 2014, 07:08:15 PM
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What is the reason that sometimes I get paid daily and sometimes every few days? I have the same hash and daily amounts are high

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October 06, 2014, 10:07:36 AM
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What is the reason that sometimes I get paid daily and sometimes every few days? I have the same hash and daily amounts are high

Do you make the minimum payout amount every single day in the "amount payable" area?
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October 07, 2014, 09:17:59 AM
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Stats seem broken.

They are mining, but no info on the pool page. This is a rig that has been going for a while with no problems on this pool so far.
I have the same problem.  Hourly hash rate seems to be working as does Immature, Unexchanged, Ready For Payout and Total Expected but all other stats not working (using eu Clevermining).

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October 07, 2014, 01:05:21 PM
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When do you get payouts at clevermining.com? I have been mining for a few days and have not received any payouts.
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October 07, 2014, 01:44:19 PM
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When do you get payouts at clevermining.com? I have been mining for a few days and have not received any payouts.

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Daily Payouts with 0.01 BTC minimum payout balance.
Additional weekly payout for small balances (0.001 BTC).

The weekly payout is on Sundays from my observation.


Stats seem broken.

They are mining, but no info on the pool page. This is a rig that has been going for a while with no problems on this pool so far.
I have the same problem.  Hourly hash rate seems to be working as does Immature, Unexchanged, Ready For Payout and Total Expected but all other stats not working (using eu Clevermining).

They work for me now.

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October 07, 2014, 04:18:35 PM
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The site says •Daily Payouts with 0.01 BTC minimum payout balance. http://clevermining.com/about

Why am I waiting a week?

CleverMining in a flash:
•Excellent profitability beating other scrypt mining options.
•Blazingly fast, very optimized and ASIC-friendly stratum software.
•Auto-switch to the most profitable coin.
•Auto-exchange mined coins to BTC.
•VARDIFF adjusting difficulty for all hashrates of GPU and ASIC rigs.
•Great and detailed stats and charts in web and mobile.
•Daily Payouts with 0.01 BTC minimum payout balance.
•Additional weekly payout for small balances (0.001 BTC).
•Highly developed project - excellent support and more features coming soon.


When do you get payouts at clevermining.com? I have been mining for a few days and have not received any payouts.

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Daily Payouts with 0.01 BTC minimum payout balance.
Additional weekly payout for small balances (0.001 BTC).

The weekly payout is on Sundays from my observation.


Stats seem broken.

They are mining, but no info on the pool page. This is a rig that has been going for a while with no problems on this pool so far.
I have the same problem.  Hourly hash rate seems to be working as does Immature, Unexchanged, Ready For Payout and Total Expected but all other stats not working (using eu Clevermining).

They work for me now.
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October 07, 2014, 04:43:00 PM
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The site says •Daily Payouts with 0.01 BTC minimum payout balance. http://clevermining.com/about

Why am I waiting a week?


What's your "Ready For Payout" balance?
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The site says •Daily Payouts with 0.01 BTC minimum payout balance. http://clevermining.com/about

Why am I waiting a week?


What's your "Ready For Payout" balance?
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October 08, 2014, 06:37:11 AM
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0.01560359 BTC


The site says •Daily Payouts with 0.01 BTC minimum payout balance. http://clevermining.com/about

Why am I waiting a week?


What's your "Ready For Payout" balance?

Doublecheck whether your BTC address is correct. Could be you made a mistake there. Then the system doesn't send the BTC to a non working address Wink
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October 09, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
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I've had a big variance in hashrate in the last 2 days and I seem to have been skipped for a payment yesterday.  BTC is all there and I don't care, just wondering if something odd is happening. 
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October 10, 2014, 08:19:44 PM
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Hi,
I lost my phone with my btc wallet. Now, I start mining to a new address.

How can I move the rest of btc on the new wallet?

Thanks,
Sergio

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October 10, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
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Hi,
I lost my phone with my btc wallet. Now, I start mining to a new address.

How can I move the rest of btc on the new wallet?

Thanks,
Sergio



If you are talking about your unpaid balance on the site then send a PM to Terk with your old and new addresses and ask if he can move the balance.

If you are talking about your wallet balance then you are out of luck unless you had a backup (but you probably didn't if you are asking).
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October 11, 2014, 09:22:46 PM
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Hi,
I lost my phone with my btc wallet. Now, I start mining to a new address.

How can I move the rest of btc on the new wallet?

Thanks,
Sergio



If you are talking about your unpaid balance on the site then send a PM to Terk with your old and new addresses and ask if he can move the balance.

If you are talking about your wallet balance then you are out of luck unless you had a backup (but you probably didn't if you are asking).

I'm talking about unpaid balance. I was not very clear.
Fortunately, the wallet was empty. This is a lesson: always do a backup, never leave too much money on wallet...
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October 12, 2014, 06:07:20 PM
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Hi,
I lost my phone with my btc wallet. Now, I start mining to a new address.

How can I move the rest of btc on the new wallet?

Thanks,
Sergio



If you are talking about your unpaid balance on the site then send a PM to Terk with your old and new addresses and ask if he can move the balance.

If you are talking about your wallet balance then you are out of luck unless you had a backup (but you probably didn't if you are asking).

I'm talking about unpaid balance. I was not very clear.
Fortunately, the wallet was empty. This is a lesson: always do a backup, never leave too much money on wallet...

As long as you're mining from the same IP Terk can see it's you Wink
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Last edit: October 14, 2014, 05:21:02 AM by halfasian
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First post. Long time lurker. I need help. I ended up with 10 gridseeds (5 chip) to get my feet wet with altcoins. I've read the quoted post and my numbers are still way off. Clevermining is reporting just under 600KH/s and cgminer is telling me I am hashing at over 4MH/s. Obviously I am doing something wrong...
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I am making this post as a summary of issues with some ASIC miners having lower hashrate than expected to link it from the OP:

Short version

If you have ASIC miner and your 24-hour hashrate average reported by CleverMining is lower than expected, then you should try to setup a manual difficulty based on these rules:

- if your miner have 16 chips or more, multiply your miner MHs * 32 and round up to the next diff value. E.g. 3.5 MH/s miner with 16 chips: 3.5 * 32 = 112, round up to 128.
- if your miner have 32 chips or more, multiply your miner MHs * 16 and round up to the next diff value. E.g. 12 MH/s miner with 32 chips: 12 * 16 = 192, round up to 256.
- if your miner have 64 chips or more, multiply your miner MHs * 8 and round up to the next diff value. E.g. 28 MH/s miner with 128 chips: 28 * 8 = 224, round up to 256.

Remember that valid difficulty values are powers of two: 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, 32768, 65536.

Please never use difficulty lower than your MHs * 8.

Longer explaination

There are some ASICs with faulty chips which tend to go dead/frozen if new work is sent very frequently (and CM switches coins more aggressively than other pools). Miner's controller probably restarts them if they don't send a share within reasonable time but that reasonable time is probably based on difficulty and expected time to find a share by the chip. The pool's vardiff adjusts difficulty so that your miner find a share very 10 seconds, but if you have dozens of chips inside one miner then it means each of your chip finds a share once per 5-15 minutes. If the miner restarts dead chips after 3x this time of not producing a share, then your chips can be frozen for half an hour before being restarted. If your miner has lot of frequently faulting chips then this will result in lower hashrate (because some of your chips are not working) and hashrate going up and down randomly. This doesn't happen on single-coin pools and doesn't happen on coin-switching pools which are switching coins slower than CM. This also doesn't happen on CM with miners which don't have faulty/freezing chips. Try setting manual difficulty according to rules above depending on number of chips and check if this will help. It helped most of people who had similar issue.

Also, when you test everything with these values, please try to use one step higher and see if it's still OK. So if you have 12 MH/s miner with 32 chips and you used 256 and it's OK, change it to 512 and see if it's still OK, because at 256 your miner will send one share per 1.4 second and this is too frequent (and 28 MH/s miner will send two shares per second). This should be used only as emergency if your miner has issues with higher difficulty - as an exception, not a rule.

Sending more frequent shares than one per 10 seconds makes sense only if your chips are falling dead and you need to make them find shares faster (in order to faster detect if they're dead and not sending shares as expected and to restart them). Hammering the pool with one share per second isn't healthy neither for the pool nor for you (using more bandwidth) and should be used only if necessary.

So, if you don't experience issues, just use VARDIFF. If you play with manual difficulty, always please check one step higher to see if it also works fine with your miner. All this manual difficulty should be needed only for miners with falling chips where the miner controller silently restarts them if they're dead - which is quite rare actually.
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October 14, 2014, 05:47:44 AM
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First post. Long time lurker. I need help. I ended up with 10 gridseeds (5 chip) to get my feet wet with altcoins. I've read the quoted post and my numbers are still way off. Clevermining is reporting just under 600KH/s and cgminer is telling me I am hashing at over 4MH/s. Obviously I am doing something wrong...
Screenshot attached:

I am making this post as a summary of issues with some ASIC miners having lower hashrate than expected to link it from the OP:

Short version

If you have ASIC miner and your 24-hour hashrate average reported by CleverMining is lower than expected, then you should try to setup a manual difficulty based on these rules:

- if your miner have 16 chips or more, multiply your miner MHs * 32 and round up to the next diff value. E.g. 3.5 MH/s miner with 16 chips: 3.5 * 32 = 112, round up to 128.
- if your miner have 32 chips or more, multiply your miner MHs * 16 and round up to the next diff value. E.g. 12 MH/s miner with 32 chips: 12 * 16 = 192, round up to 256.
- if your miner have 64 chips or more, multiply your miner MHs * 8 and round up to the next diff value. E.g. 28 MH/s miner with 128 chips: 28 * 8 = 224, round up to 256.

Remember that valid difficulty values are powers of two: 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, 32768, 65536.

Please never use difficulty lower than your MHs * 8.

Longer explaination
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How long has it been since you started mining on the pool, you need to give it some time to "stabilize". It needs time to create a good running average of your workers performance.

Looking at the mining instance it says your best share is 4.71K, so I figure you haven't been mining very long on the pool.
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October 14, 2014, 05:48:44 AM
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So, if you don't experience issues, just use VARDIFF.  [...]

That's what I use and it works fine. What are your issues with VARDIFF?

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