[ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com

[Fiyasko]

Could we get a Second .001 payout day?

[1714216573]

1714216573

[rodeoclownicp]

maybe even a once a month stuck balance day ?

[papoboy]

maybe even a once a month stuck balance day ?

Why do balances even get stuck?  This is the only pool that this happens -- to me at least.  I've had 0.01835318 BTC stuck for some time now.  The immatures don't become unexchanged and the unexchanged don't get ready for payout. 

[jekv2]

Pretty much done here.

Look at nicehash.

The profits here are no longer good.

If I had kept an eye on profits I would have been gone weeks ago...

http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

[crashoveride54902]

Pretty much done here.

Look at nicehash.

The profits here are no longer good.

If I had kept an eye on profits I would have been gone weeks ago...

http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

ya was looking into getting on nicehash...but too hard to make it work right with blades/orbs...dunno bout thunders or bws...

[rodeoclownicp]

maybe even a once a month stuck balance day ?

Why do balances even get stuck?  This is the only pool that this happens -- to me at least.  I've had 0.01835318 BTC stuck for some time now.  The immatures don't become unexchanged and the unexchanged don't get ready for payout. 

omg... no way that sucks.. that about 1 whole day of mining for me..... i think i am about to that but i kept mining here because i thought terk was going to deal with it

Terk, any word on the stuck yet?

[byt411]

Pretty much done here.

Look at nicehash.

The profits here are no longer good.

If I had kept an eye on profits I would have been gone weeks ago...

http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

As you wish, but let me warn you that NiceHash will be closing soon, since they are getting their asses sued off for being a bunch of scammers and thieves.

[minerjoen]

How about offering payouts in LTC? I think there might be more growth potential there than in BTC price.

Oh and 83% prof really sucks!

i think because everybody got the trust in BTC, there where the trust in LTC is getting lower by the day. BTC has become mainstream while other alt coins are taking over LTC.

After all, i also did use some auto-switch pools at the begin when i start mining alt coins.. But now i'm looking everyday at this forum and watch for new coins what have a good change to get higher on the list. And i mine that solo or by an pool pure for that coin. At the end of the month i got much more vallue in BTC then with those auto switch pools what are most of the time mining coins with a sick high dif.

[chadwickx16]

Pretty much done here.

Look at nicehash.

The profits here are no longer good.

If I had kept an eye on profits I would have been gone weeks ago...

http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

As you wish, but let me warn you that NiceHash will be closing soon, since they are getting their asses sued off for being a bunch of scammers and thieves.

Are you talking about the LR3 ripoff? And do you have a link?

[byt411]

Pretty much done here.

Look at nicehash.

The profits here are no longer good.

If I had kept an eye on profits I would have been gone weeks ago...

http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

As you wish, but let me warn you that NiceHash will be closing soon, since they are getting their asses sued off for being a bunch of scammers and thieves.

Are you talking about the LR3 ripoff? And do you have a link?

So I guess NiceHashDev is mad about the new hash-power marketplace?  He can't stand competition and is so butthurt that he violates his Non-Disclosure and Non-Compete agreement Again.

Since Nice Hash is built on LRP that code is a good start to building your own hashpower marketplace

Also I should point out somethings about NiceHash:

The lead developer and the owner with knowledge of the below:
Violated a non-disclosure and non-compete agreement.
Threatened to steal all leaserig provider deposits after the site purchase (skype history available)
Offered to follow the original terms of the purchase contract if we paid him 31BTC!  (skype history available)
Now has released proprietary source code due to an attack on LeaseRig, NiceHash and possibly other rental/leasing sites.

I think this dog is off his leash and should maybe calm down and work WITH the community to thwart further attacks.  Like sharing traffic sources, possible compromised accounts, etc.   We have sent logs and analysis to nicehash in hopes that we can assist them in staving off further attacks.

And there was another post, but I can't seem to find it.

[richpop98]

i fucked up bad i accidentally used my Litecoin address instead of my bitcoin address what should i do?

[byt411]

i fucked up bad i accidentally used my Litecoin address instead of my bitcoin address what should i do?

Mine for a bit on your BTC address, then PM Terk with both of your addresses and ask for help.

[chadwickx16]

Pretty much done here.

Look at nicehash.

The profits here are no longer good.

If I had kept an eye on profits I would have been gone weeks ago...

http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

As you wish, but let me warn you that NiceHash will be closing soon, since they are getting their asses sued off for being a bunch of scammers and thieves.

Are you talking about the LR3 ripoff? And do you have a link?

So I guess NiceHashDev is mad about the new hash-power marketplace?  He can't stand competition and is so butthurt that he violates his Non-Disclosure and Non-Compete agreement Again.

Since Nice Hash is built on LRP that code is a good start to building your own hashpower marketplace

Also I should point out somethings about NiceHash:

The lead developer and the owner with knowledge of the below:
Violated a non-disclosure and non-compete agreement.
Threatened to steal all leaserig provider deposits after the site purchase (skype history available)
Offered to follow the original terms of the purchase contract if we paid him 31BTC!  (skype history available)
Now has released proprietary source code due to an attack on LeaseRig, NiceHash and possibly other rental/leasing sites.

I think this dog is off his leash and should maybe calm down and work WITH the community to thwart further attacks.  Like sharing traffic sources, possible compromised accounts, etc.   We have sent logs and analysis to nicehash in hopes that we can assist them in staving off further attacks.

And there was another post, but I can't seem to find it.

Damn, I didn't know that miavator ran LR.  Thanks for the assistance byt! 

[richpop98]

i fucked up bad i accidentally used my Litecoin address instead of my bitcoin address what should i do?

Mine for a bit on your BTC address, then PM Terk with both of your addresses and ask for help.

i have a little over.01 in the account and pmed him last night just not active yet i guess

[crashoveride54902]

Pretty much done here.

Look at nicehash.

The profits here are no longer good.

If I had kept an eye on profits I would have been gone weeks ago...

http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

As you wish, but let me warn you that NiceHash will be closing soon, since they are getting their asses sued off for being a bunch of scammers and thieves.

while i don't like what they did...but i highly doubt anything will come of it...look at the asic companies...are any of those thieves actually paying out one red cent they stole? i doubt it might as well get ROI off crazy ppl who are willing to pay that premium to hash...can't believe ppl are actually paying those high rates...what is the point? do they like throwing their money away?

[jekv2]

Meh@ w/e is going on.

I just made 0.00419118 in little time, this would have taken atleast a couple days to make here.

[gtraah]

Hi I have some Btc thats frozen immature and Unexchanged is not moving to expeted, I dont mine anymore but I think I should be entitled to what is left here

Current Balances
Immature   0.00301922 BTC
Unexchanged   0.00832929 BTC
Ready For Payout   0.00074127 BTC
Total Expected   0.01208978 BTC


my address is : 1Ebrs5hygiN2oT7AqYJbVGPCXp6z9tuuQ2



Can this be paid?

[Terk]

Most of stuck immature and unexchanged balances are actually orphaned blocks which weren't properly detected as orphans by the pool software. This is a bug and I am working to improve orphans detection to fix this.

Total stuck balance is currently approximately 23 BTC compared to 12145 BTC which were paid by the pool, so it's 0.19%. This will be different for some users depending on when they were mining, but most users should fall between 0.1% and 0.3% of their entire paid amount. Most of it are just orphans, so there are no valid block behind this and will be converted to zeros after I fix orphans detecting.

But some part of these balances are actually valid blocks, which are stuck because they were sent to exchanges in one deposit transaction with blocks which later became orphaned. So these deposits weren't actually valid and were never mined by the network (but they exist in our local wallet and our wallet thinks they are sent). This happened for some niche coins which were forking intensively. I will clean up wallets for these coins and re-sync our database with actually sent blocks and all valid blocks will be sent to exchanges again, exchanges into BTC and paid out.

I can't tell how big part of these stuck balances are valid and recoverable and how big part are orphans. I'll update you on this issue when I will know more.

For anyone who does't know: orphans are normal in mining and it's just cost of doing business. A block is orphaned if two different people find a block at more or less the same time. They both broadcast it to the network and the network accepts just one of them - usually the one which will reach majority of nodes quicker - while the other one becomes an orphan, meaning it's rejected by the network and is not a valid mined block. There are some coins which have very low orphans ratio, like LTC and DOGE (in general: high difficulty coins), but some low difficulty coins have much higher orphans ratio.

So, orphans are just cost of doing business and you have orphaned blocks on all pools. The only issue at CleverMining is that we didn't properly detect all orphaned blocks so we were leaving some of them with immature or unexchanged statuses which were never changed later, because we wasn't really able to send these blocks to exchanges - and this is why it's stuck as immature/unexchanged.

I hope it explains the issue in a way that's easy to understand to everyone. I'll update you with more details when I'll clean this data up.

[Terk]

From other news: I banned a huge botnet today. I will be banning more botnets tomorrow. CleverMining does not accept mining by botnets or by any other kind of stolen hashrate. If you're mining with a bonnet here, you should expect to be banned within a day or two.

[chadwickx16]

From other news: I banned a huge botnet today. I will be banning more botnets tomorrow. CleverMining does not accept mining by botnets or by any other kind of stolen hashrate. If you're mining with a bonnet here, you should expect to be banned within a day or two.

Thanks for your continuing hard work that sometimes goes unnoticed here. I'm still looking forward to your x11 pool.

Chad