[ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com

[dmz241]

I am not sure if I agree with you on the shitier pool theory. But you are right shouldn't have posted a referral link on here secondly you are right about the orphan blocks I seem to see alot of them. Does cleaver mining show when it gets an orphan block?

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[byt411]

I am not sure if I agree with you on the shitier pool theory. But you are right shouldn't have posted a referral link on here secondly you are right about the orphan blocks I seem to see alot of them. Does cleaver mining show when it gets an orphan block?

No, but obviously, if a block gets orphaned, you won't earn anything. CM earnings are still higher than ghashes.

[dmz241]

hmm k maybe I was mining on a bad week. Cause the week i did it got me much less then what I got at coinshift or waffle. I have repointed my miners here to give it another go. Thanks for the help on the orphan blocks info.

[chadwickx16]

I am not sure if I agree with you on the shitier pool theory. But you are right shouldn't have posted a referral link on here secondly you are right about the orphan blocks I seem to see alot of them. Does cleaver mining show when it gets an orphan block?

Clever doesn't show them, but I tried out GHASH and I got less than half of what I would have with clever.

[dmz241]

I saw more output but I had some ghs hashing bitcoins there too like 6ghs so that might have been the reason I saw better numbers I have done a switchover to clevermining maybe the week I was in was just a bad week for scrypt. Then again profits seem to have gone down although the value of btc has increased alot.

[chadwickx16]

I saw more output but I had some ghs hashing bitcoins there too like 6ghs so that might have been the reason I saw better numbers I have done a switchover to clevermining maybe the week I was in was just a bad week for scrypt. Then again profits seem to have gone down although the value of btc has increased alot.

In addition to the most recent ~15% increase in LTC Difficulty.

[XxEnigmaticxX]

Hey Terk,


  is there any issues with payouts today, i see they were sent out but, and my tx has 8 confirmations on it as of now, but i still dont see anything in my wallet.

[dmz241]

hey guys a question is it worth it to purchase a 1mh/s 1 year contract scrypt at 179dollars?

[Buddy]

so I may have missed this in the many pages here, but have we ever gotten an API?

The whole cloudflare/ddos protection stuff is nice to keep the pool up, but incredibly annoying for both checking hte pages and trying to write data scrapers to track my performance.

If there is no API (still) any one have any suggestions on how to scrape data from their miner pages?  I cant seem to get around the cloudflare junk

I am having the same problem in trying to "data scrape" as you call it.  I read on the CloudFlare site that their protection does not prevent web crawlers from scanning the site (so I am confident we can find a way to do it), and I'm thinking what I will try next is to write code to accept their cookie(s).  Of course, my guess is worthless until I have it running.

What I unsuccessfully tried in php was to file_get_contents, then do a javascript setTimeout of 10 seconds, after which I do a window.location.reload.  

hmmm, well i guess if they say web crawlers can scan it, there has to be a way. what's the link where you read this?

I went the python route a few weeks back, but got no where.  After reading your post, i fired wireshark back up and it looks like there's a hidden form that needs some special key to return in order to let us through ... so I also think we'll need some code to accept their cookie/whatever and respond back similar to how a browser would.  still kind of pain to grab some data  

update: ok so i did some digging. got this from the cloudflare site:
Javascript and cookies are required for the tests, and to record the fact that the tests were correctly passed. The page which your visitors see when in IUAM can be fully customized to reflect your branding. I'm Under Attack mode does not block search engine crawlers or your existing CloudFlare whitelist.

My guess is they whitelisted known and allowed search engine crawlers which is why those bots work where as ours dont.  Add to it that it looks like Terk opted to put the domain in a permanent I'm Under Attack Mode and we are where we are. So pretty much we need to mimic the expected behavior if we want anything to work ... lovely

I neednt link you now, your text is exactly what I read.  I did not reach the conclusion that you did about the crawlers being whitelisted, thanks for helping me think! 

As to "kind of a pain", well, it would be worth it so I could get some sleep, I'm plain stupid about having to check every hour and enter data into a spreadsheet.  Auto-reading from CM is the only missing link.  I'm databasing the exchange rates of 5 different coins once every five minutes, making graphs, all automatically.

See https://github.com/jordoh/miner-monitor/blob/master/pools/clever_mining.rb#L84-L102 for ruby code. The basic process is:

1. Get the 503 page from CloudFlare - it contains a verification code (in the HTML) and simple equation to solve (in the JS).
2. Make a get request for http://www.clevermining.com/cdn-cgi/l/chk_jschl?jschl_vc=<verification code from step 1>&jschl_answer=<answer to equation from step 1> with the referer header set to the page you are trying to access. If you got the answer right, you'll a 302 (redirect) response with a cf_clearance cookie.
3. Follow the redirect (i.e. request the original page you were trying to access), including the cf_clearance cookie.

Thanks for this, I was looking into making an Android widget for CM and looks like I will have a way to do so.

Do you have an example of this code in C#?

[byt411]

Hey Terk,


  is there any issues with payouts today, i see they were sent out but, and my tx has 8 confirmations on it as of now, but i still dont see anything in my wallet.

Well, then it's obviously a problem with your wallet.

hey guys a question is it worth it to purchase a 1mh/s 1 year contract scrypt at 179dollars?

You can buy your own scrypt 1mh/s miner for less than that.

[JHammer]

Hi.. One thing I have always noticed when I mine on clever(And why I usually don't stay here long) is that it seems like the Hashrate Clever shows is a lot of times 10% to 20% lower than my actual hash rate.. Like for example right now Clever is showing me at 23 to 25 MH's but I have almost 30(29.90) MH's pointed here..  Rejects are only 2.7%

Clever reports 20.8 MH/s 24-hour Average

My Miners UI reports  29.95 Mh/s  24-hour Average



Are the hash states here not real accurate?   I know when I am on Waffle, it shows a steady 28+- MH's

I get nervous when I see part of my hashrate missing and don't really know why or where its going..  And right now its a pretty big chunk missing..

[alienesb]

Hi.. One thing I have always noticed when I mine on clever(And why I usually don't stay here long) is that it seems like the Hashrate Clever shows is a lot of times 10% to 20% lower than my actual hash rate.. Like for example right now Clever is showing me at 23 to 25 MH's but I have almost 30(29.90) MH's pointed here..  Rejects are only 2.7%

Clever reports 20.8 MH/s 24-hour Average

My Miners UI reports  29.95 Mh/s  24-hour Average



Are the hash states here not real accurate?   I know when I am on Waffle, it shows a steady 28+- MH's

I get nervous when I see part of my hashrate missing and don't really know why or where its going..  And right now its a pretty big chunk missing..

Yeah, it always shows a bit less but I can't complain about the payout. One thing I wish was less was the rejects. On some coins it will pop to like 10%

[XxEnigmaticxX]

Hey Terk,


  is there any issues with payouts today, i see they were sent out but, and my tx has 8 confirmations on it as of now, but i still dont see anything in my wallet.

Well, then it's obviously a problem with your wallet.

can you offer any advice to help me out. i am running multibit 0.5.18.

[byt411]

Hi.. One thing I have always noticed when I mine on clever(And why I usually don't stay here long) is that it seems like the Hashrate Clever shows is a lot of times 10% to 20% lower than my actual hash rate.. Like for example right now Clever is showing me at 23 to 25 MH's but I have almost 30(29.90) MH's pointed here..  Rejects are only 2.7%

Clever reports 20.8 MH/s 24-hour Average

My Miners UI reports  29.95 Mh/s  24-hour Average



Are the hash states here not real accurate?   I know when I am on Waffle, it shows a steady 28+- MH's

I get nervous when I see part of my hashrate missing and don't really know why or where its going..  And right now its a pretty big chunk missing..

Pools cannot track hashrate exactly, they track hashrate by basing it on number of accepted shares.
Add the rejected hashed to your hashrate and you should be pretty close.

Hey Terk,


  is there any issues with payouts today, i see they were sent out but, and my tx has 8 confirmations on it as of now, but i still dont see anything in my wallet.

Well, then it's obviously a problem with your wallet.

can you offer any advice to help me out. i am running multibit 0.5.18.

Use Electrum. Export your private keys and import them into electrum.

[XxEnigmaticxX]

Hi.. One thing I have always noticed when I mine on clever(And why I usually don't stay here long) is that it seems like the Hashrate Clever shows is a lot of times 10% to 20% lower than my actual hash rate.. Like for example right now Clever is showing me at 23 to 25 MH's but I have almost 30(29.90) MH's pointed here..  Rejects are only 2.7%

Clever reports 20.8 MH/s 24-hour Average

My Miners UI reports  29.95 Mh/s  24-hour Average



Are the hash states here not real accurate?   I know when I am on Waffle, it shows a steady 28+- MH's

I get nervous when I see part of my hashrate missing and don't really know why or where its going..  And right now its a pretty big chunk missing..

Pools cannot track hashrate exactly, they track hashrate by basing it on number of accepted shares.
Add the rejected hashed to your hashrate and you should be pretty close.

Hey Terk,


  is there any issues with payouts today, i see they were sent out but, and my tx has 8 confirmations on it as of now, but i still dont see anything in my wallet.

Well, then it's obviously a problem with your wallet.

can you offer any advice to help me out. i am running multibit 0.5.18.

Use Electrum. Export your private keys and import them into electrum.

actually i just rmeoted into my machine and payment magically appeared. if i keep having issues ill switch over to electurm

[jimlite]

I hear waffle is working on Scrypt-N and X11, are you guys going to?
And with normal gpu rigs like 280x's which would be most profitable?
Thanks

[bitlind]

Looks like that whale came back today and others followed him in.  I've observed those addresses bounce in and out of the pools only the last two times it has occurred between waffle and CM.  I cannot really nail down their strategy or why the need to jump around?  I've thrown hash at different alternate coins but usually end up coming back to CM just because its to much work mining them and I do not have the time to commit.

Any ideas on why this one miner and the 4 or so other addresses that follow, does this?

[kskwerl]

Looks like that whale came back today and others followed him in.  I've observed those addresses bounce in and out of the pools only the last two times it has occurred between waffle and CM.  I cannot really nail down their strategy or why the need to jump around?  I've thrown hash at different alternate coins but usually end up coming back to CM just because its to much work mining them and I do not have the time to commit.

Any ideas on why this one miner and the 4 or so other addresses that follow, does this?

Thats funny you say that I was just posting on /r/wafflepool. I noticed last night that wafflepool was doing 35GH and is now down to 14-15GH, wtf is going on?

[dmz241]

k I know this might be weird coming from me. But recently I switched back to clever to give it a go but for somereason the scripta version I have keeps shutting down to the point where I have to reboot the entire pi someone else having this problem? it hashs for a bit then shuts off. I switched to different pool and its not doing it... didnt have the problem when I mined last with same setup on clever

[gtraah]

WOW, all I can say is WOW just wowww, the lowest I have ever seen... I will be surprised if there are still GPU's mining scrypt with this kind of MH/btc


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