[Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016]

[urbanBTC]

Can yous add a spot to puts which miners company sends you?

Woulds look more independent thens not saying which companys sent you miners. 

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[dogie]

Can yous add a spot to puts which miners company sends you?

Woulds look more independent thens not saying which companys sent you miners. 

Its right at the top, across every guide I have?

[johny08]

Can you add hashcoins.com?

[dogie]

Can you add hashcoins.com?

No. They are yet to deliver in any significant quantity. They were so eagar for me to 'promote' them with the promise of a batch 2 review unit, I refused ahead of seeing anything concrete. When shipping time came around they went quiet and didn't answer emails.

[kazbek]

Can you add hashcoins.com?

No. They are yet to deliver in any significant quantity. They were so eagar for me to 'promote' them with the promise of a batch 2 review unit, I refused ahead of seeing anything concrete. When shipping time came around they went quiet and didn't answer emails.

At present i wait two units (Poseydon), was ordered in january 2014.
My hope not dead yet

[Pentax]

Black Arrow's X-3 units are having issues with overheating.  Cards are melting down.


http://ecointalk.net/topic/1346-x3-safely-remove-hashcards/




A customer reports that one of his units has literally caught on fire

http://ecointalk.net/topic/1348-my-x3-caught-fire/#entry17691


images of his burned out unit:


http://imgur.com/TsrIFt3
http://imgur.com/VWandpq
http://imgur.com/oQ2YU4A
http://imgur.com/0HRLVmN




contrary to several assertions that they would refund they have refused refunds and taken the step of completely deleting the refunds thread from their forum.

http://ecointalk.net/topic/1321-where-is-the-refunds-thread/

[dogie]

Black Arrow's X-3 units are having issues with overheating.  Cards are melting down.

http://ecointalk.net/topic/1346-x3-safely-remove-hashcards/

A customer reports that one of his units has literally caught on fire

http://ecointalk.net/topic/1348-my-x3-caught-fire/#entry17691

images of his burned out unit:
http://imgur.com/TsrIFt3
http://imgur.com/VWandpq
http://imgur.com/oQ2YU4A
http://imgur.com/0HRLVmN

contrary to several assertions that they would refund they have refused refunds and taken the step of completely deleting the refunds thread from their forum.

http://ecointalk.net/topic/1321-where-is-the-refunds-thread/

Thanks

[LazerPanther]

Do you have any thoughts on the TuringStations scrypt miners Dogie? The Turing Crawler is $3,899 for 350MH at 2.35w/mh. Their Turing Atlantis is $5,899 for 550MH at 2.3w/mh. They also offer payment through BitcoinEscrow and are guaranteeing unit arrival in 1-3 weeks from purchase.

[dogie]

Do you have any thoughts on the TuringStations scrypt miners Dogie? The Turing Crawler is $3,899 for 350MH at 2.35w/mh. Their Turing Atlantis is $5,899 for 550MH at 2.3w/mh. They also offer payment through BitcoinEscrow and are guaranteeing unit arrival in 1-3 weeks from purchase.

bitcoinEscrow are not really a real escrow service, anyone can make an escrow site and pretend to use escrow. If they're promising delivery that quickly then they should have prototypes.

[opieum2]

Any chance at reviewing AMT's status? They have at least on the ethics side shown their colors. Deliveries started, but in various states of missing parts. I was lucky and got complete units only because they were meant for someone else. However, a number of other people got bad missing parts. Considering how long it also took and the issues still on going, it would seem to be worth another look.

[dogie]

Any chance at reviewing AMT's status? They have at least on the ethics side shown their colors. Deliveries started, but in various states of missing parts. I was lucky and got complete units only because they were meant for someone else. However, a number of other people got bad missing parts. Considering how long it also took and the issues still on going, it would seem to be worth another look.

Can you link me to some of the missing parts?

[RoadStress]

Hey dogie how do you measure the size of a company? What do you take into account?

[dogie]

Hey dogie how do you measure the size of a company? What do you take into account?

Every size related measure you'd expect, its been explained in more detail several pages back. A few of the companies need juggling around, but tldr its more of a measure to protect against new companies having charting beating ratings from day 1.

[rhj12345]

You should drop the rating for Bitmain as they are now just pushing out delivers to whenever.

[dogie]

You should drop the rating for Bitmain as they are now just pushing out delivers to whenever.

For which batch?

[rhj12345]

You should drop the rating for Bitmain as they are now just pushing out delivers to whenever.

For which batch?

I kind of think with the B8 on the S3 and L1 pushing out to December and then you go to the Bitmain site and see this:

We created a Legend in the bitcoin community: no pre-orders, on time shipping, even pre-shipping. We are earning more and more trust from our worldwide customers.


Would this make you think they don't give a rat rip anymore?

[dogie]

You should drop the rating for Bitmain as they are now just pushing out delivers to whenever.

For which batch?

I kind of think with the B8 on the S3 and L1 pushing out to December and then you go to the Bitmain site and see this:

We created a Legend in the bitcoin community: no pre-orders, on time shipping, even pre-shipping. We are earning more and more trust from our worldwide customers.


Would this make you think they don't give a rat rip anymore?

Batches are not preorders, its sensible shipping. You simply can't click your fingers and make 800 units appear out of thin air, nor can you construct or test them in one space at one time. You have to build and ship them in smaller quantities and over a sustained period of time. Its not as good as in stock hardware no and so holds a penalty, but it is NOT preordering.

[jimmothy]

Batches are not preorders, its sensible shipping. You simply can't click your fingers and make 800 units appear out of thin air, nor can you construct or test them in one space at one time. You have to build and ship them in smaller quantities and over a sustained period of time. Its not as good as in stock hardware no and so holds a penalty, but it is NOT preordering.

I can understand your point for the S3+ but the L1 is clearly a preorder.

**Chip Efficiency: Efficiency is a simulation result. Though BITMAIN has good track records of making power effective miner, this is only simulation. The final number depends on the testing results before shipping and it is not binding term.

[opieum2]

Any chance at reviewing AMT's status? They have at least on the ethics side shown their colors. Deliveries started, but in various states of missing parts. I was lucky and got complete units only because they were meant for someone else. However, a number of other people got bad missing parts. Considering how long it also took and the issues still on going, it would seem to be worth another look.

Can you link me to some of the missing parts?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584891.700 this page and a few more things besides missing PSUs. Early orders not received and such.

[dogie]

I can understand your point for the S3+ but the L1 is clearly a preorder.

**Chip Efficiency: Efficiency is a simulation result. Though BITMAIN has good track records of making power effective miner, this is only simulation. The final number depends on the testing results before shipping and it is not binding term.

That's right.