minerpart
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April 15, 2014, 10:18:05 PM |
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Touching 40TH/s. At this rate we will soon be in the 'Top 10' on Eligius.
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"Bitcoin: mining our own business since 2009" -- Pieter Wuille
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gogxmagog
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Ad maiora!
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April 15, 2014, 10:32:53 PM |
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Shareholders have indeed backed Havelock all the way. This result should not be a surprise to anyone. I want to retract everything I said yesterday in regards to taking action against the company. Yes, I was overly dramatic but felt it was all I had left to try and somehow get Ken to see sense. I have been as patient as I know how and it suddenly all became too much, so I snapped. I totally support ActiveMining and appreciate how hard Ken is working to make it successful. He's done a fantastic job of late and it just depresses me to see that the shareholders are yet to take ownership of their investments. I've been scammed by just about every startup in this space and ActiveMining needs to work out for me, otherwise I'm back to square one. Please Ken, give us access to our shares as soon as you can and let the good work you are doing be reflected in the price.  I think anyone invested in this company has gone through the same emotional roller-coaster ride and flipped out from time to time. I know I have several times over. Its a direct result of the feelings of impotence caused by being denied access to our shares! presently ActM is doing great... BUT... how long did ASICMINER dominate the hashrate? a few months before they lost their position forever? Imagine if when ASICMINER was priced at 4btc a share that their shares were held by FC and not released for trading? his greatest cheerleaders would be flying to china to chase him down! how long to get these shares online? not until we lose our position? past performance does not inspire confidence here. what I am trying to stress here is "time is of the essence" git those shares online anyway anyhow (Ive been saying this for almost a year!) |
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JoTheKhan
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April 15, 2014, 10:46:31 PM |
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We'll hear from Ken tomorrow if not tonight. Don't worry I am pretty sure Ken knows that shares are the leading concern at the moment. Hopefully he'll elaborate if there is any issue so we can stay somewhat informed.
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Ozymandias2
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April 15, 2014, 11:29:38 PM |
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Anyone else here glued to bitcoinwisdom right now?
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byt411
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April 15, 2014, 11:46:22 PM |
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I'd like to ask a few questions:
1. Will all of the accumulated dividends be paid out?
2. Why can't the shares just be placed on Havelock?
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zefyr0s
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April 16, 2014, 04:15:25 AM |
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Thing is, the more Ken says on here the more open he leaves himself to attack and to various interpretation. If he really is in a situation in which state authorities are looking into him for share trading, you must realize he is going to have to do this delicately. Every time he posts it isn't enough, or it's the "same old thing." I would rather Ken post less often, but with actual improvements/ideas instead of goals and intentions.
The people would like facts as to the questions they pose, but Ken has to tread lightly, and I feel that's the course he is taking.
Magz: if you had an actual case, getting other people rallied up about it only takes away from the money you would potentially get, unless you feel you have an underhanded argument and need the attestations of others to reinforce it. Shit or get off the pot, but we don't want to hear about it here. Do you have a lawyer? Have they been in contact with Ken's lawyers? Surely if there is an issue that customer service can't resolve your two attorneys should be able to work out an amicable agreement without disparaging Ken or the company.
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VinceSamios
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April 16, 2014, 09:18:13 AM |
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ActM now mining $51,000/month
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BitSwe
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April 16, 2014, 10:07:53 AM |
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ActM now mining $51,000/month
It would be nice to know how much of that is a profit. Could be a lot, could be nothing ... only Ken knows. |
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JimmyJazz
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April 16, 2014, 12:22:38 PM |
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Would anyone like to bet on Ken saying he will have the shares trading this week and nothing happening?
KEN LET US TRADE OUR SHARES PLEASE!
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adameb
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April 16, 2014, 04:00:32 PM |
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Hasn't Ken stated that he doesn't want to use Havelock because he thinks it will eventually be shut down (and not want to repeat the btct & bitfunder experiences again)?
Why would the vote change that?
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Will Dance For Satoshis - 1F1q93wAqgH8WFghRKpnBW8HxShuzkRrqc
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runam0k
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Touchdown
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April 16, 2014, 04:22:21 PM |
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Hasn't Ken stated that he doesn't want to use Havelock because he thinks it will eventually be shut down (and not want to repeat the btct & bitfunder experiences again)?
Why would the vote change that?
Because that was before Cryptostocks... Which might also be shut down. If it's a choice between waiting for Colored Coins or going with Cryptostocks or Havelock, Havelock wins. |
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drasted
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April 16, 2014, 04:26:56 PM |
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?
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lobbes
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April 16, 2014, 04:36:56 PM |
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ActM now mining $51,000/month
It would be nice to know how much of that is a profit. Could be a lot, could be nothing ... only Ken knows. Which raises that question: Ken, when can we expect the financial report to be released? |
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sparky999
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April 16, 2014, 04:59:40 PM |
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?
Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform. |
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kleeck
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April 16, 2014, 07:12:06 PM |
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?
Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform. Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government. |
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Ozymandias2
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April 16, 2014, 07:13:31 PM |
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?
Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform. Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government. So the choice is between the possibility of getting goxed vs. the possibility of getting goved? Wonderful. |
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noah tall
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April 16, 2014, 07:17:22 PM |
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Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government.
Can you explain? |
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kleeck
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April 16, 2014, 07:19:42 PM |
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?
Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform. Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government. So the choice is between the possibility of getting goxed vs. the possibility of getting goved? Wonderful. Welcome to Bitcoin!!  |
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MilkyWayMasta
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April 16, 2014, 08:34:07 PM |
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Has Ken said why he thinks cryptotrade is less likely to shutdown than havelock?
Surely it's pretty obvious? U.S. govt doesn't go after the smallest fish first, it goes after the biggest - which is currently Havelock. Crypto-trade is primarily a crypto-currency exchange not a securities trading platform. Crypto-trade is much more likely to gox its users than to be shutdown by any government. So the choice is between the possibility of getting goxed vs. the possibility of getting goved? Wonderful. Welcome to Bitcoin!! Colored Coins! |
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gogxmagog
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April 16, 2014, 09:04:59 PM |
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with the increasing hashrate I would expect shares in ActM to increase in value too.
with the increase in btc/usd value i will expect more big players to bring hashes online, quickly dwarfing ActM's position in the network hashrate.
with increased privately funded big players competing I expect ActM to be unable to add hashrate fast enough to keep up and therefore share value of ActM will plummet. (see ASICMINER's history)
with ken's progress getting shares tradeable online so far I expect to see my shares sit in limbo through great profits and then back to a loss, for good, with none of us able to take advantage of the potential profits coming.
I guess when btc reaches 100 mil usd (good luck) the 0.0001 total value of my 10 000 shares will look like "profit" using ken's logic. I severely disagree with this last statement.
we're working on it" and "sometime next week" are no longer acceptable, ken. put those shares wherever you can and let the cards fall where they may ffs. you've held my funds (in the form of shares) out of reach for FAR FAR too long. GET. IT. TOGETHER.
EDIT- how long until our owed div BTC goes "missing" through some falling exchange or hack or whatever? seriously ken. action, now PLEASE!
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