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Bitmain and their Ants are definitely what all vendors should be aspiring to; good price performance and 100% legal. It goes to show that not all Chinese companies are the same and that one should be vigilant against companies like JT, JianTian, Dragon, etc who have no qualms with using stolen technology in their products.
Frankly I don't see any reason why anyone would want to purchase anything based on the A1 as currently it simply isn't a competitive option.
Sir, may you please remove yourself from this thread? You´ve made your claims, multiple times now, and since it´s quite obvious that you don´t have a clue how patent/copyright works in the REAL WORLD you´re just making a fool out of yourself. Innosilicon is a respectable company.
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Oh wait, an ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal... - Hashfast_CL
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March 13, 2014, 12:37:28 PM |
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Bitmain and their Ants are definitely what all vendors should be aspiring to; good price performance and 100% legal. It goes to show that not all Chinese companies are the same and that one should be vigilant against companies like JT, JianTian, Dragon, etc who have no qualms with using stolen technology in their products.
Frankly I don't see any reason why anyone would want to purchase anything based on the A1 as currently it simply isn't a competitive option.
Lesson learned. Don't use Innosilicon ever. So you're not going to buy any A1 chips from them for your Wasps then? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 13, 2014, 01:38:01 PM |
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Bitmain and their Ants are definitely what all vendors should be aspiring to; good price performance and 100% legal. It goes to show that not all Chinese companies are the same and that one should be vigilant against companies like JT, JianTian, Dragon, etc who have no qualms with using stolen technology in their products.
Frankly I don't see any reason why anyone would want to purchase anything based on the A1 as currently it simply isn't a competitive option.
Because I can have double the hash power for the same amount of electricity. Not rocket science. Maybe the next ant will have the A1 inside or perhaps they are a big customer of Asicminer, that would make for a good partnership.
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March 14, 2014, 02:28:18 AM |
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Bitmain and their Ants are definitely what all vendors should be aspiring to; good price performance and 100% legal. It goes to show that not all Chinese companies are the same and that one should be vigilant against companies like JT, JianTian, Dragon, etc who have no qualms with using stolen technology in their products.
Frankly I don't see any reason why anyone would want to purchase anything based on the A1 as currently it simply isn't a competitive option.
Because I can have double the hash power for the same amount of electricity. Not rocket science. Maybe the next ant will have the A1 inside or perhaps they are a big customer of Asicminer, that would make for a good partnership. Agreed. 1T only 900W, ants can't beat it. Of course if you have free electricity and love the noises, that's different story.
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March 14, 2014, 09:50:00 AM |
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Well, for what it's worth my unit went off to have a suitable PSU attached by friends of the JTMiner crew and has not been seen since...
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Developer/maintainer for cgminer, ckpool/ckproxy, and the -ck kernel 2% Fee Solo mining at solo.ckpool.org -ck
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March 14, 2014, 11:29:31 AM |
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Well, for what it's worth my unit went off to have a suitable PSU attached by friends of the JTMiner crew and has not been seen since...
Did you send it back to China? In such case, shipping takes a couple of days. I know they´re working on the PSU situation in their design so we´re going to have some good news soon ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Oh wait, an ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal... - Hashfast_CL
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March 14, 2014, 01:01:53 PM |
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March 14, 2014, 01:46:37 PM |
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Well, for what it's worth my unit went off to have a suitable PSU attached by friends of the JTMiner crew and has not been seen since...
Did you send it back to China? In such case, shipping takes a couple of days. I know they´re working on the PSU situation in their design so we´re going to have some good news soon ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Iirc ckolivas is an Aussie and had plenty of hardware sent in and out. So put JT's penis down... Lol!
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March 14, 2014, 02:09:12 PM |
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Ive gotten 5 so far, one non factory, and 4 coming in the factory packaging with everything included (even a ethernet cable!!!)
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March 14, 2014, 02:13:35 PM Last edit: March 14, 2014, 04:48:57 PM by seeksilence |
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@Powell: Can't believe such words coming from a businessman. Just saw a spoiled child and sour grape.
@bobsag3: You are not our authorized distributor. You just got some other brand miners, not JTminer.
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March 14, 2014, 02:19:59 PM |
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@Powell: Can't believe such words coming from a businessman. Just saw a spoiled child and sour grade.
@bobsag3: You are not our authorized distributor. You just got some other brand miners, not JTminer.
says a lot about the product when the one good review isnt actually for what you sell/sold
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March 14, 2014, 02:40:51 PM |
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@Powell: Can't believe such words coming from a businessman. Just saw a spoiled child and sour grade.
@bobsag3: You are not our authorized distributor. You just got some other brand miners, not JTminer.
says a lot about the product when the one good review isnt actually for what you sell/sold My thoughts exactly... all my other supplers have been more than upfront with me about everything on the unit- even had one come with a bad blade and I have a replacement on its way, along with a partial BTC refund for my trouble.
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March 14, 2014, 02:44:51 PM Last edit: March 14, 2014, 04:49:29 PM by seeksilence |
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@Powell: Can't believe such words coming from a businessman. Just saw a spoiled child and sour grape.
@bobsag3: You are not our authorized distributor. You just got some other brand miners, not JTminer.
says a lot about the product when the one good review isnt actually for what you sell/sold We value the brand more than the short-term profit. We are the first to apply the MCU in the 1t 28nm board and use high quality parts. We are not like other resellers selling the copycat and doing a price war against each other. We have our own brand: JTminer. We will still put our effort on the research to get more powerful miner.
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Unless your illegitimate A1 based miners are sub $3k, they're really not worthwhile for anyone to take risks on anymore. Game Over Man ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) --- --- MARCH 14, 2014 FOR IMMIDIATE RELEASE
AntMiner S2 1TH/s Miner (1w/GH/s) in Production Bitmain Technologies Limited is proud to announce ANTMINER S2 that features 1TH/s Bitcoin Miner, consist of high-density chip chains and ultra low power consumption. AntMiner S2 is using the state of the art BM1380 chip, targeting the best possible power efficiency. S2 is built into a 4U size box, and it will come with PSU manufactured by Enermax. S2 will be very convenient to deploy. S2 is still running quietly. Since November of 2013, BM1380 has been proven to be the most effective IC on the 55nm process among all competitors, even comparable to the most Bitcoin Mining ICs developed on 28nm process nodes. Our first generation Bitcoin Miner, AntMiner S1, demonstrated low power consumption but a high performance. Currently S1 is most popular miner for mining enthusiasts. S1 is currently deployed in large binary trees structures within the private and public mining pools servicing 20.3% of the entire network hash rate. The 1st Batch of AntMiner S2 will be shipped out on April 1st. AntMiner S2 will be available in the global market for a price of $3,899. Our website store located at https://www.bitmaintech.com. AntMiner S2 SPEC:- Hash rate: more than 1,000GH/s
- Power consumption: 1,000W from the wall
- Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s
- PSU: 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold
- 4U Rack
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March 16, 2014, 12:48:42 PM |
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BFL produced his first 60mn chip in China, which was immediately stolen and reproduced by Avalon.
Wat ¯\(°_o)/
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March 16, 2014, 12:51:47 PM |
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BFL produced his first 60mn chip in China, which was immediately stolen and reproduced by Avalon.
SPOBI
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March 16, 2014, 03:40:02 PM |
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BFL produced his first 60mn chip in China, which was immediately stolen and reproduced by Avalon.
SPOBI ^thanks for the obscure reference that i had to google....
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March 16, 2014, 05:30:51 PM |
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Bitmain and their Ants are definitely what all vendors should be aspiring to; good price performance and 100% legal. It goes to show that not all Chinese companies are the same and that one should be vigilant against companies like JT, JianTian, Dragon, etc who have no qualms with using stolen technology in their products.
Frankly I don't see any reason why anyone would want to purchase anything based on the A1 as currently it simply isn't a competitive option.
Sir, may you please remove yourself from this thread? You´ve made your claims, multiple times now, and since it´s quite obvious that you don´t have a clue how patent/copyright works in the REAL WORLD you´re just making a fool out of yourself. Innosilicon is a respectable company. What a FUD. They stole their product, reproduced it. Not the first time, not the last. I you have a innovative BRAND NEW product, you NEVER go to China producing it. Thats a rule, American and European producers learned in the last decade, because they just steal and copy it! Cointerra, Hashfast no way producing in China. BFL produced his first 60mn chip in China, which was immediately stolen and reproduced by Avalon. Ok, maybe you are in China RESPECTABLE if you STEAL A PRODUCT make alot of MONEY and anyone think of you that you are respectable. BUT THATS A FUD Get your fact right before open your big mouth. A1 chips ARE NOT PRODUCED in China. It is produced in GP facility in Germany. It is designed by a Chinese chip design company with their own IPs. It signed a partnership with Bitmine with Bitmine paying for part of costs. As return Bitmine can have 100K of chips in cost price and can market as their own brand name. Now Bitmine sold or used all those chips already. As a new agreement, Bitmine can only sell system not chips now. As for respectable company, KNC also have their chips designed by a Chinese chip design company headquartered in Taibei.
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