loshia
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March 16, 2014, 05:43:28 PM |
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Bitmain and their Ants are definitely what all vendors should be aspiring to; good price performance and 100% legal. It goes to show that not all Chinese companies are the same and that one should be vigilant against companies like JT, JianTian, Dragon, etc who have no qualms with using stolen technology in their products.
Frankly I don't see any reason why anyone would want to purchase anything based on the A1 as currently it simply isn't a competitive option.
Sir, may you please remove yourself from this thread? You´ve made your claims, multiple times now, and since it´s quite obvious that you don´t have a clue how patent/copyright works in the REAL WORLD you´re just making a fool out of yourself. Innosilicon is a respectable company. What a FUD. They stole their product, reproduced it. Not the first time, not the last. I you have a innovative BRAND NEW product, you NEVER go to China producing it. Thats a rule, American and European producers learned in the last decade, because they just steal and copy it! Cointerra, Hashfast no way producing in China. BFL produced his first 60mn chip in China, which was immediately stolen and reproduced by Avalon. Ok, maybe you are in China RESPECTABLE if you STEAL A PRODUCT make alot of MONEY and anyone think of you that you are respectable. BUT THATS A FUD Get your fact right before open your big mouth. A1 chips ARE NOT PRODUCED in China. It is produced in GP facility in Germany. It is designed by a Chinese chip design company with their own IPs. It signed a partnership with Bitmine with Bitmine paying for part of costs. As return Bitmine can have 100K of chips in cost price and can market as their own brand name. Now Bitmine sold or used all those chips already. As a new agreement, Bitmine can only sell system not chips now. As for respectable company, KNC also have their chips designed by a Chinese chip design company headquartered in Taibei. Who cares guys as long as this chips are HIGLY overpriced and avalon gen 3 is coming So I wish them good luck with deployment of such big amount of chips in hand collecting dust Ps it is off topic pls excuse me
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Xian01
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March 16, 2014, 07:12:01 PM |
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Who cares guys as long as this chips are HIGLY overpriced and avalon AsicMiner gen 3 is coming Shhh. Let us not speak that name again on these subforums...
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loshia
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March 16, 2014, 07:43:30 PM |
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Who cares guys as long as this chips are HIGLY overpriced and avalon AsicMiner gen 3 is coming Shhh. Let us not speak that name again on these subforums... Ok any it is not changing the facts these chips are too expensive. As I said I wish them luck to deploy them I am not saying the same name again but gen 2 were the only one chips next day delivery with bearable price
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March 16, 2014, 08:54:56 PM |
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BFL produced his first 60mn chip in China, which was immediately stolen and reproduced by Avalon.
SPOBI ^thanks for the obscure reference that i had to google.... One man's FUD is another man's SPOBI. ...and you're welcome.
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skyfromwell
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March 16, 2014, 09:43:11 PM |
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Bitmain and their Ants are definitely what all vendors should be aspiring to; good price performance and 100% legal. It goes to show that not all Chinese companies are the same and that one should be vigilant against companies like JT, JianTian, Dragon, etc who have no qualms with using stolen technology in their products.
Frankly I don't see any reason why anyone would want to purchase anything based on the A1 as currently it simply isn't a competitive option.
Sir, may you please remove yourself from this thread? You´ve made your claims, multiple times now, and since it´s quite obvious that you don´t have a clue how patent/copyright works in the REAL WORLD you´re just making a fool out of yourself. Innosilicon is a respectable company. What a FUD. They stole their product, reproduced it. Not the first time, not the last. I you have a innovative BRAND NEW product, you NEVER go to China producing it. Thats a rule, American and European producers learned in the last decade, because they just steal and copy it! Cointerra, Hashfast no way producing in China. BFL produced his first 60mn chip in China, which was immediately stolen and reproduced by Avalon. Ok, maybe you are in China RESPECTABLE if you STEAL A PRODUCT make alot of MONEY and anyone think of you that you are respectable. BUT THATS A FUD Get your fact right before open your big mouth. A1 chips ARE NOT PRODUCED in China. It is produced in GP facility in Germany. It is designed by a Chinese chip design company with their own IPs. It signed a partnership with Bitmine with Bitmine paying for part of costs. As return Bitmine can have 100K of chips in cost price and can market as their own brand name. Now Bitmine sold or used all those chips already. As a new agreement, Bitmine can only sell system not chips now. As for respectable company, KNC also have their chips designed by a Chinese chip design company headquartered in Taibei. Who cares guys as long as this chips are HIGLY overpriced and avalon gen 3 is coming So I wish them good luck with deployment of such big amount of chips in hand collecting dust Ps it is off topic pls excuse me Just talked with Dr. Zhang (you know who he is, LOL), his chips come out 2 weeks with 82 RMB per chip. That is same as A1 chip in $55. The second one at 6 weeks is cheaper, but not really a big threat as you saying. Also someone boasts Antminer's 1T system before. I also talked with their CEO Li, it is not very cheap at $3899.
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ChuckBuck
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March 16, 2014, 10:20:54 PM |
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Isn't it cheaper than your miner?
That means yours is a colossal ripoff.
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loshia
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March 17, 2014, 04:55:07 AM |
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Bitmain and their Ants are definitely what all vendors should be aspiring to; good price performance and 100% legal. It goes to show that not all Chinese companies are the same and that one should be vigilant against companies like JT, JianTian, Dragon, etc who have no qualms with using stolen technology in their products.
Frankly I don't see any reason why anyone would want to purchase anything based on the A1 as currently it simply isn't a competitive option.
Sir, may you please remove yourself from this thread? You´ve made your claims, multiple times now, and since it´s quite obvious that you don´t have a clue how patent/copyright works in the REAL WORLD you´re just making a fool out of yourself. Innosilicon is a respectable company. What a FUD. They stole their product, reproduced it. Not the first time, not the last. I you have a innovative BRAND NEW product, you NEVER go to China producing it. Thats a rule, American and European producers learned in the last decade, because they just steal and copy it! Cointerra, Hashfast no way producing in China. BFL produced his first 60mn chip in China, which was immediately stolen and reproduced by Avalon. Ok, maybe you are in China RESPECTABLE if you STEAL A PRODUCT make alot of MONEY and anyone think of you that you are respectable. BUT THATS A FUD Get your fact right before open your big mouth. A1 chips ARE NOT PRODUCED in China. It is produced in GP facility in Germany. It is designed by a Chinese chip design company with their own IPs. It signed a partnership with Bitmine with Bitmine paying for part of costs. As return Bitmine can have 100K of chips in cost price and can market as their own brand name. Now Bitmine sold or used all those chips already. As a new agreement, Bitmine can only sell system not chips now. As for respectable company, KNC also have their chips designed by a Chinese chip design company headquartered in Taibei. Who cares guys as long as this chips are HIGLY overpriced and avalon gen 3 is coming So I wish them good luck with deployment of such big amount of chips in hand collecting dust Ps it is off topic pls excuse me Just talked with Dr. Zhang (you know who he is, LOL), his chips come out 2 weeks with 82 RMB per chip. That is same as A1 chip in $55. The second one at 6 weeks is cheaper, but not really a big threat as you saying. Also someone boasts Antminer's 1T system before. I also talked with their CEO Li, it is not very cheap at $3899. LOL How many a1 you can sell me At 55 usd today next day delivery? I am serious pm me please Have in mind that you are selling 30 GH chip. I am not buying PDF specs
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seeksilence (OP)
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March 18, 2014, 02:56:28 PM |
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LOL How many a1 you can sell me At 55 usd today next day delivery? I am serious pm me please Have in mind that you are selling 30 GH chip. I am not buying PDF specs If you could find that price for an authentic a1 chip, we could buy it from you and save a lot of cost and then make the JTminer more cheaper. The price of JTminer is not as high as you think (The price on the website is outdated). We have already made a few deals. If you are a serious and reasonable buyer/distributor, you can drop an email to sales@jtminer.com or message skyfromwell for purchase inquires. The price will be dependent on the delivery date, number of units etc.
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loshia
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March 18, 2014, 07:23:54 PM |
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LOL How many a1 you can sell me At 55 usd today next day delivery? I am serious pm me please Have in mind that you are selling 30 GH chip. I am not buying PDF specs If you could find that price for an authentic a1 chip, we could buy it from you and save a lot of cost and then make the JTminer more cheaper. The price of JTminer is not as high as you think (The price on the website is outdated). We have already made a few deals. If you are a serious and reasonable buyer/distributor, you can drop an email to sales@jtminer.com or message skyfromwell for purchase inquires. The price will be dependent on the delivery date, number of units etc. I am serious I need 1k coincraft chips next day delivery. So if so body happen to have an reasonable offer please pm me. Just to point out the chip is 30gh in real life with around 30% increased power consumption from PDF specs More over bitfury gen 2 and avalon gen 3 are coming I have said it many times if I get ready to mine machine for X usd I expect to be able to get chips for 30% of that price. If all of the above sounds reasonable pm me
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March 18, 2014, 08:04:00 PM |
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i have received last week my BITMINE coincraft DESK 1TH. In normal mode 1Th In turbo mode 1.2 Th. Need new firmware. If somebody wants it, please PM. I'm in Italy.
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Ronin1
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March 19, 2014, 02:48:02 PM |
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LOL How many a1 you can sell me At 55 usd today next day delivery? I am serious pm me please Have in mind that you are selling 30 GH chip. I am not buying PDF specs If you could find that price for an authentic a1 chip, we could buy it from you and save a lot of cost and then make the JTminer more cheaper. The price of JTminer is not as high as you think (The price on the website is outdated). We have already made a few deals. If you are a serious and reasonable buyer/distributor, you can drop an email to sales@jtminer.com or message skyfromwell for purchase inquires. The price will be dependent on the delivery date, number of units etc. So you state: "The price of JTminer is not as high as you think (The price on the website is outdated). " Then I say, correct the website. Alternative would be for you to provide legitimate information for pricing here. Break it out: like, buy 1 = $xxx buy 2= $xxxx buy 5= $xxxxx buy 10 = $xxxxxxxx . It really isnt that hard. Using your own words.... "If you are a serious and reasonable" and (to add on) legitimate seller post substantive information. Stop with the riddles, the story telling, the evasive answers, the innuendo. I have to say that attacking people questioning you does not put you in a good light nor does it enhance your "TRUST STATUS". I think you may have missed the boat on sales of your product. Too bad, because at first I thought you might really have something good here. Proverbs 11:24 One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. 2 Peter 2:3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
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seeksilence (OP)
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March 22, 2014, 04:27:40 AM |
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Rank #1 in E-pool. Still busy on putting the JTminers into the farm.
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mitak64
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March 22, 2014, 12:15:36 PM |
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Good for you .
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sikke
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March 22, 2014, 12:25:57 PM |
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Rank #1 in E-pool. Still busy on putting the JTminers into the farm. How many TH
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skyfromwell
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March 23, 2014, 04:34:56 AM |
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Rank #1 in E-pool. Still busy on putting the JTminers into the farm. How many TH 300T now, and few days later will get to 500T.
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March 23, 2014, 04:54:11 AM |
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What I am confused about and maybe it is my ignorance or you alls, but I thought this was about a new product to sell not show off about our farm. Then you all tell us how you alls clone is better than everyone else's.
Am I wrong at guessing since the only few units in the wild came to Sky (who I thought owned the company at first) in the USA. Then ckolivas (sp?) got his to tweek their mcu design in cgminer but his is currently off getting the PSU setup fixed.
I think a lot of people want to know is are you all going to sell anything or just wave your e-peen about a machine you make in your own factory?
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Biffa
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March 23, 2014, 03:00:24 PM |
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What I am confused about and maybe it is my ignorance or you alls, but I thought this was about a new product to sell not show off about our farm. Then you all tell us how you alls clone is better than everyone else's.
Am I wrong at guessing since the only few units in the wild came to Sky (who I thought owned the company at first) in the USA. Then ckolivas (sp?) got his to tweek their mcu design in cgminer but his is currently off getting the PSU setup fixed.
I think a lot of people want to know is are you all going to sell anything or just wave your e-peen about a machine you make in your own factory?
Maybe he's just here to try and stop people buying other miners while he builds his farm. Wouldn't be the first time.
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sikke
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March 23, 2014, 03:43:24 PM |
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Rank #1 in E-pool. Still busy on putting the JTminers into the farm. How many TH 300T now, and few days later will get to 500T. Impressive 2million $$ farm there Theres some PH of These A1 chips miners made in China already. I htink Dragon miners have shipped +1PH already. They seem to ship out 1k miners /week. No wonder the Chinese mining pool is growing most atm. KNC private pool also...
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mitak64
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March 23, 2014, 03:51:33 PM |
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OK, enough with the dickriding already !
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Xian01
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March 23, 2014, 04:49:10 PM |
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I still have this on my radar as a product to possibly acquire in the near future.
Do we have any other "trusted reviews" or pictures from customers who have placed orders and received this product ?
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