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[crypper]

What I'm going to do now is to mine Monacoin here on MPH for three days, then on suprnova for 3 days and then I'll compare average hashrates and profits.

Bad approach. If you want to compare 2 pools, you have to mine in parallel. Otherwise, the results are not comparable as the net difficulty in 4-6 days can be completely different from days 1-3!

You are right, I have not considered difficulty  change.
I'll do next: I'll run two instances of ccminer with 2 GTX 1070 each: 1. MPH, 2. Suprnova
24 h should be enough to make conclusions.

Please keep us updated on your test
Thanks

Sure, I'm already running the test. I'll update you tomorrow.
It would be nice if someone else could also run a similar test just to get statistics. As admins mentioned earlier (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472510.4840), this is a known issue, but some users do not experience it.
I'm using tpruvot ccminer 2.2 and 372.54 nvidia driver. I wonder if it can be miner/driver versions dependent.

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[micard]

What's the best way to find out the overall real profitability? I've been mining MPH with MPM for 6 days now and still struggle to tell what's my profit.

So far, I did 3 approaches:

1. Use EthMonitoring and add all MPH pools, wait a day or two and check. It shows the overall 24h revenue (in real currency, USD/EUR, etc.). This works but shows me quite just about 60% profits compared to the display of MPM/megaminer and Whattomine calc. (Note: if you do autoconvert, be careful because it doesn't consider the exchange, just sums up everything. If converted to currency that is not mined (like ETH for me) it's no prob, just ignore this revenue) 

2. I've made an excel sheet on which i manually log my daily profits from the mined coins dashboard (recent credits per day). It's tedious because you have to go through all the dashboards, and at the same time, browse coinmarketcap for all the exchange rates. But I believe it should give a precise reading. Unfortunately, the calculated revenue is about same as with method #1. about 60% that of the profitability display/theoretic profit 

3. Using the balances page and excel, I can manually sum up all the credited coins, convert to BTC/USD/EUR with Coinmarketcap and log every day at the same time. Should also give an exact reading. I believe through auto exchange, some currency is "lost" in display somehow, but overall (always depending on the fluctuating exchange rates) I get the same as with methods #1 and #2.

So I've been reading the forum and read that there are many complaints. I also checked my displayed hash rates on the dashboards and found that - like for many others - they are always much lower than the readings from the miners. Guess what? ~ 60% is about right. 

So the question for me is: why is it so difficult to get information about ones profit on MPH, is it on purpose? And why are the hashrates and - allegedly - revenues so much lower than what the mining tools say? I really love the concept of MPH but I need these questions resolved.

[twicx]

Quick question on automatic payout thresholds. I see there's an option for multiple addresses, but I'm trying to figure out the correct way to input them.
Is it "address_bitcoinaddressfor1staccount address_bitcoinaddressfor2ndaccount"?

[freofreo]

Regarding the pool hash rate:

I've been looking up on google about it and the answer is pool hash rate is the number your miner submitted in that time interval. If your miner found lots of share, hash rate on the dashboard will go up. If it found fewer shares, it will go down.

The number whattomine.com and what your miner report are striaght calculation. With (X) hashrate you'll get (Y) result.
The number on your miner is what your GPU is doing.

For me, sometimes half, sometimes 100% or sometimes even 150% of what my miner says.

Short version

Pool Hashrate = Rate of the shares you found and submitted to the pool.
Miner Hashrate = How good your GPU is doing.
Est. profit on whattomine and MPM = Straight calculation 10x10=100. But it can't tell if you'll find a share or not.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wong.

PS. You can look up on google with "pool hash rate is lower than xxxminer" there's a lot of discussions on this.

[crypper]

Regarding the pool hash rate:

I've been looking up on google about it and the answer is pool hash rate is the number your miner submitted in that time interval. If your miner found lots of share, hash rate on the dashboard will go up. If it found fewer shares, it will go down.

The number whattomine.com and what your miner report are striaght calculation. With (X) hashrate you'll get (Y) result.
The number on your miner is what your GPU is doing.

For me, sometimes half, sometimes 100% or sometimes even 150% of what my miner says.

Short version

Pool Hashrate = Rate of the shares you found and submitted to the pool.
Miner Hashrate = How good your GPU is doing.
Est. profit on whattomine and MPM = Straight calculation 10x10=100. But it can't tell if you'll find a share or not.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wong.

PS. You can look up on google with "pool hash rate is lower than xxxminer" there's a lot of discussions on this.

Nice job! Now google: "average"

[freofreo]

Hi all,

Very new to MPH. Looks like great pool and great work gone into this site.

Question - how do i see what coin is mined at any point in time? As it switch i can see the miner being used but where can i see what coin is being mined?

Thanks in advance.

Think i found my answer based on the portnumbers and list from main page?

Yeah, you can look from the port number. If you're using MPM you can see from its console or log too. It's something like this.

   Status: Running

     Speed Active                      Launched Command
     ----- ------                      -------- -------
23.91 MH/s 00 Days 06 Hours 28 Minutes 7 Times  Bin\NVIDIA-TPruvot\ccminer-x64.exe -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:17018 -u username.workername -p x


   Status: Idle

    Speed Active                      Launched Command
    ----- ------                      -------- -------
0.00 PH/s 00 Days 03 Hours 40 Minutes 7 Times  Bin\NVIDIA-Nanashi\ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:17012 -u username.workername -p x
0.00 PH/s 00 Days 00 Hours 30 Minutes Once     Bin\NVIDIA-KlausT\ccminer.exe -a groestl -o stratum+tcp://asia.hub.miningpoolhub.com:20486 -u username.workername -p x
0.00 PH/s 00 Days 00 Hours 03 Minutes Once     Bin\NVIDIA-TPruvot\ccminer-x64.exe -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:17018 -u username.workername -p x
0.00 PH/s 00 Days 00 Hours 01 Minutes Once     Bin\NVIDIA-TPruvot\ccminer-x64.exe -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:17018 -u username.workername -p x
0.00 PH/s 00 Days 00 Hours 03 Minutes Once     Bin\NVIDIA-Nanashi\ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:17012 -u username.workername -p x

[aaronsace]

Nice job! Now google: "average"

Bit harsh with the dig at the end; he did a good job and actually highlights a lot of peoples misconceptions.

Long-term losses are another issue and are usually a problem with the miner actually submitting shares and/or invalid ones.

[freofreo]

Nice job! Now google: "average"

Bit harsh with the dig at the end; he did a good job and actually highlights a lot of peoples misconceptions.

Long-term losses are another issue and are usually a problem with the miner actually submitting shares and/or invalid ones.

Maybe it's because of me. The PS part might made him think I was being sacrastic. Which was not my intention. I was trying to point what to search in case anyone would like to know more.

English isn't my first language. My apology.

[betiteh0777]

Ok, so I just did check dashboards for the coins I'm mining at the moment and, as was mentioned before, there's a problem with reported hash rates. On the site it says ~55MH/s, but ccminer reports ~70MH/s (the same I had with NiceHash). So which one is correct ?

Same here:
Mining vertcoin only (without autoswitches) with ccminer:
Pool reports ~25% lower hashrate than ccminer on average  (monitored over 3 days).
Average amount of coins mined daily is also ~25% lower than predicted by different calculators (WhatToMine, coinwarz).

What I'm going to do now is to mine Monacoin here on MPH for three days, then on suprnova for 3 days and then I'll compare average hashrates and profits.
I'll report back in a week

Spare your time on Mona here - its just the same.....online hashrate never catches up with the miner hashrate even if you let is go for 2-3days -no difference, still the same.......somewhere in between 20-40% hashrate goes somewhere else....

[crypper]

Ok, so I just did check dashboards for the coins I'm mining at the moment and, as was mentioned before, there's a problem with reported hash rates. On the site it says ~55MH/s, but ccminer reports ~70MH/s (the same I had with NiceHash). So which one is correct ?

Same here:
Mining vertcoin only (without autoswitches) with ccminer:
Pool reports ~25% lower hashrate than ccminer on average  (monitored over 3 days).
Average amount of coins mined daily is also ~25% lower than predicted by different calculators (WhatToMine, coinwarz).

What I'm going to do now is to mine Monacoin here on MPH for three days, then on suprnova for 3 days and then I'll compare average hashrates and profits.
I'll report back in a week

Spare your time on Mona here - its just the same.....online hashrate never catches up with the miner hashrate even if you let is go for 2-3days -no difference, still the same.......somewhere in between 20-40% hashrate goes somewhere else....

Is it for Lyra2 only (as admins claim) or for other algos too? How about equihash?
Edit: please share your experience: algo/coin, set up, observations. Thanks

[betiteh0777]

What I'm going to do now is to mine Monacoin here on MPH for three days, then on suprnova for 3 days and then I'll compare average hashrates and profits.

Bad approach. If you want to compare 2 pools, you have to mine in parallel. Otherwise, the results are not comparable as the net difficulty in 4-6 days can be completely different from days 1-3!

You are right, I have not considered difficulty  change.
I'll do next: I'll run two instances of ccminer with 2 GTX 1070 each: 1. MPH, 2. Suprnova
24 h should be enough to make conclusions.

Please keep us updated on your test
Thanks

Sure, I'm already running the test. I'll update you tomorrow.
It would be nice if someone else could also run a similar test just to get statistics. As admins mentioned earlier (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472510.4840), this is a known issue, but some users do not experience it.
I'm using tpruvot ccminer 2.2 and 372.54 nvidia driver. I wonder if it can be miner/driver versions dependent.

I have tested suprnova it worked out immediately - online pool hashrate catched up the miner speed for 1min after launched!!! Then even surpassed a little and after that it went equal with the miner speed

I use ccminer-x64-2.2.3-cuda9 and NVIDIA driver version 23.21.13.8843 from 27/11/2017

Now there is new NVIDIA driver from 07/12/2017 but I can't decide do I want it or not, because finally I see what I should see.....

[Minerdc]

What I'm going to do now is to mine Monacoin here on MPH for three days, then on suprnova for 3 days and then I'll compare average hashrates and profits.

Bad approach. If you want to compare 2 pools, you have to mine in parallel. Otherwise, the results are not comparable as the net difficulty in 4-6 days can be completely different from days 1-3!

You are right, I have not considered difficulty  change.
I'll do next: I'll run two instances of ccminer with 2 GTX 1070 each: 1. MPH, 2. Suprnova
24 h should be enough to make conclusions.

Please keep us updated on your test
Thanks

Sure, I'm already running the test. I'll update you tomorrow.
It would be nice if someone else could also run a similar test just to get statistics. As admins mentioned earlier (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472510.4840), this is a known issue, but some users do not experience it.
I'm using tpruvot ccminer 2.2 and 372.54 nvidia driver. I wonder if it can be miner/driver versions dependent.

I have tested suprnova it worked out immediately - online pool hashrate catched up the miner speed for 1min after launched!!! Then even surpassed a little and after that it went equal with the miner speed

I use ccminer-x64-2.2.3-cuda9 and NVIDIA driver version 23.21.13.8843 from 27/11/2017

Now there is new NVIDIA driver from 07/12/2017 but I can't decide do I want it or not, because finally I see what I should see.....

What algo are you mining?
Do you see the correct profitability?

[crypper]

What I'm going to do now is to mine Monacoin here on MPH for three days, then on suprnova for 3 days and then I'll compare average hashrates and profits.

Bad approach. If you want to compare 2 pools, you have to mine in parallel. Otherwise, the results are not comparable as the net difficulty in 4-6 days can be completely different from days 1-3!

You are right, I have not considered difficulty  change.
I'll do next: I'll run two instances of ccminer with 2 GTX 1070 each: 1. MPH, 2. Suprnova
24 h should be enough to make conclusions.

Please keep us updated on your test
Thanks

Sure, I'm already running the test. I'll update you tomorrow.
It would be nice if someone else could also run a similar test just to get statistics. As admins mentioned earlier (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472510.4840), this is a known issue, but some users do not experience it.
I'm using tpruvot ccminer 2.2 and 372.54 nvidia driver. I wonder if it can be miner/driver versions dependent.

I have tested suprnova it worked out immediately - online pool hashrate catched up the miner speed for 1min after launched!!! Then even surpassed a little and after that it went equal with the miner speed

I use ccminer-x64-2.2.3-cuda9 and NVIDIA driver version 23.21.13.8843 from 27/11/2017

Now there is new NVIDIA driver from 07/12/2017 but I can't decide do I want it or not, because finally I see what I should see.....

Please update us with the results after 24h. Immediate hashrate is meaningless

[betiteh0777]

-a lyra2z

OK will do inform how it goes tomorrow

[crypper]

-a lyra2z

OK will do inform how it goes tomorrow

Can you do Lyra2Rev2 instead (vertcoin, monacoin)? This is the one we are having problems with at the moment.

[icmanik]

hello there could you anyone help me how to setup Antminer D3 on different altcoin? Multipool my antminer rejected all shares

[TheHypnoToad]

What I'm going to do now is to mine Monacoin here on MPH for three days, then on suprnova for 3 days and then I'll compare average hashrates and profits.

Bad approach. If you want to compare 2 pools, you have to mine in parallel. Otherwise, the results are not comparable as the net difficulty in 4-6 days can be completely different from days 1-3!

You are right, I have not considered difficulty  change.
I'll do next: I'll run two instances of ccminer with 2 GTX 1070 each: 1. MPH, 2. Suprnova
24 h should be enough to make conclusions.

Please keep us updated on your test
Thanks

Sure, I'm already running the test. I'll update you tomorrow.
It would be nice if someone else could also run a similar test just to get statistics. As admins mentioned earlier (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472510.4840), this is a known issue, but some users do not experience it.
I'm using tpruvot ccminer 2.2 and 372.54 nvidia driver. I wonder if it can be miner/driver versions dependent.

I have tested suprnova it worked out immediately - online pool hashrate catched up the miner speed for 1min after launched!!! Then even surpassed a little and after that it went equal with the miner speed

I use ccminer-x64-2.2.3-cuda9 and NVIDIA driver version 23.21.13.8843 from 27/11/2017

Now there is new NVIDIA driver from 07/12/2017 but I can't decide do I want it or not, because finally I see what I should see.....

Hi, how are you viewing your hashrate on the pool? I've just starting mining lyra2v2 and wanted to check it's working ok.

Sorry if this is such as n00b question, I've checked the MPH FAQ, my balance page is blank, and am out of ideas  

EDIT: Ok, I've waited a little longer now and some vertcoin ia showing up in my balance, it would still be nice to view the hashrate somehow.

[wizmanza]

getting timeouts on hub.miningpoolhub.com:17018 - any issues?

[paulpoco]

At 1st set "Auto Exchange" to BTC.
At present time don't have enough for withdrawal.

Now changed to "Auto Exchange" to LTC.
Too soon to see any LTC.

Question - those BTC that have already been "Auto Exchanged", can they be "Auto Exchanged" to LTC?  Or do I need to let the BTC balance get large enough to make a withdrawal?  I.e.  so that the 0.0003 BTC fee isn't the same as my balance?

[freofreo]

Hi, how are you viewing your hashrate on the pool? I've just starting mining lyra2v2 and wanted to check it's working ok.

Sorry if this is such as n00b question, I've checked the MPH FAQ, my balance page is blank, and am out of ideas  

For hash rate, look at the left menu, click on the coin you are mining then click on dashboard.
Total balances update is kinda slow. Account information on each coin's dashboard is much faster.