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Author Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS]  (Read 1009297 times)
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March 21, 2014, 01:27:04 AM
Last edit: March 21, 2014, 01:39:00 AM by BeholdTheTrueWake
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Assuming you saw Zeitcoin as an investment, wouldn't you check in everyday on your investment?
Even if you checked in once a week, you would have seen posts letting everyone know the wallet was going down.
Your best luck is to message either FaSan or ZEITCOIN.
Otherwise you have to be more careful with your crypto.  Undecided
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March 21, 2014, 01:56:47 AM
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I agree. You shouldn't expect someone else to be responsible for your stuff.

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March 21, 2014, 02:13:02 AM
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hmm odd my coins are 20 days old (well 21) and it's yet to start POS, any idea why? Wallets been open for 48hrs and has been unlocked.
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March 21, 2014, 02:17:17 AM
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Just giving everyone an update:

Working on a wallet update. Taking a break for the night. Update will be done and binaries will be launched hopefully in the next 24 - 72 hours.

Adds 2 features, and changes 1.

New Feature: Unlock Wallet
-- Allows wallet to be unlocked for minting and transactions. Locks when wallet is closed.

New Feature: Mint Wallet
-- Allows wallet to be unlocked for minting only. No transactions will be able to be sent.

Changed Feature: Change Passphrase (Not sure if I will use it)
-- To change passphrase, the wallet must be in an unlocked (Unlock or Mint) state, and will still ask for passphrase. This makes it require the passphrase twice before being able to change your passphrase.
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March 21, 2014, 02:18:41 AM
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hmm odd my coins are 20 days old (well 21) and it's yet to start POS, any idea why? Wallets been open for 48hrs and has been unlocked.

I'm not 100% sure as I haven't been through all of the code yet, but I thought PoS begins based on the timezone it was setup for launch, which means it's like another two hours till midnight.
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March 21, 2014, 02:22:24 AM
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hmm odd my coins are 20 days old (well 21) and it's yet to start POS, any idea why? Wallets been open for 48hrs and has been unlocked.

If CASH is anything to go by which is the only PoS coin I've held enough of and long enough to care about PoS, it's not exact.

I've had the coins mint 2-3 days after I expected them too.
Also, there's no coin control feature, so if you've sent any coins, they MAY have gone from the earliest inputs received. Hence, you can only be SURE that the coins received in the first batches are still there for minting.

I'm expecting many posts in the next few days that will be exactly the same as this Smiley

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March 21, 2014, 02:24:01 AM
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hmm odd my coins are 20 days old (well 21) and it's yet to start POS, any idea why? Wallets been open for 48hrs and has been unlocked.

If CASH is anything to go by which the only PoS coin I've held enough of and long enough to care about PoS, it's not exact.

I've had the coins mint 2-3 days after I expected them too.
Also, there's no coin control feature, so if you've sent any coins, they have gone from the earliest inputs received. Hence, you can only be SURE that the coins received in the first batches are still there for minting.

I'm expecting many posts in the next few days that will be exactly the same as this Smiley

lol that is most likely what has happened.. well i'll wait and see i had transactions (received) everyday since launch so one is bound to start..
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March 21, 2014, 02:25:20 AM
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lol that is most likely what has happened.. well i'll wait and see i had transactions (received) everyday since launch so one is bound to start..

You should be able to check on the explorer, look at the transactions and see what inputs were received first and then look and what inputs were used when sending. AFAIK, that's the only way to know at present.

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March 21, 2014, 02:33:50 AM
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pump zeit tonight Grin

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March 21, 2014, 02:36:36 AM
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lol that is most likely what has happened.. well i'll wait and see i had transactions (received) everyday since launch so one is bound to start..

You should be able to check on the explorer, look at the transactions and see what inputs were received first and then look and what inputs were used when sending. AFAIK, that's the only way to know at present.

Is there a new one? the one on the OP is outdated.
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March 21, 2014, 02:42:06 AM
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lol that is most likely what has happened.. well i'll wait and see i had transactions (received) everyday since launch so one is bound to start..

You should be able to check on the explorer, look at the transactions and see what inputs were received first and then look and what inputs were used when sending. AFAIK, that's the only way to know at present.

Is there a new one? the one on the OP is outdated.

http://zeitcoin-explorer.info:2750/

OP's not been updated yet.

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March 21, 2014, 02:55:57 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB55mbwAmDE
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March 21, 2014, 04:15:25 AM
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Is there any way to see where my buy order is in the queue on mintpal?  So i can see how much more until my orders get hit.
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March 21, 2014, 04:24:30 AM
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Is there any way to see where my buy order is in the queue on mintpal?  So i can see how much more until my orders get hit.

Nope, CR is the only one I KNOW of that has that feature (it's an awesome little feature).

I did tweet @ them about bringing it in though.

On a completely different note, had another idea for a project again, but I'm knackered and will have to write up 2moro, just putting this to remind myself.
Venus Project proof of farming concept in Africa with Solar and 0% loans.

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March 21, 2014, 07:59:18 AM
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Confirmed that PoS is working:

Stake: for example 38139 (this is the sum of your eligible sum of stake plus the interest for the stake)

And the interest the you earned as stake shows up as Mined in your wallet. It showed up exactly 40 minutes after your first payment was eligible for stake.


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March 21, 2014, 08:09:06 AM
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Just some random question.. How can a dev. change a coin while its already out? If dev. can do it cant a hackers also do it? sorry hope you understand my noob question.

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March 21, 2014, 08:29:23 AM
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Just some random question.. How can a dev. change a coin while its already out? If dev. can do it cant a hackers also do it? sorry hope you understand my noob question.

Dont worry its quite simple. Smiley
The software package of the wallet will be changed by the development team and officially distributed (on the main website etc.) to all (most) of the people participating in that coin. That is how it "changes". The minority that didnt do the update will most likely have a wallet that does not sync correctly anymore and so they will have to update as well at some point.

To make sure its not a chaos of different wallets during that change, a fixed block number is being announced as well that is know by the wallet software so that every installation switched from old to new behaviour at the same time synchronously. I think BTC and many of the altcoins have done that several times now. Works quite nicely.

Even if it looks like it. >> I'm NOT THE DEV <<
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March 21, 2014, 08:41:40 AM
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Just some random question.. How can a dev. change a coin while its already out? If dev. can do it cant a hackers also do it? sorry hope you understand my noob question.

Sure they can.....after convincing everyone in the community (or rather, the Devs, exchange people, pool operators and merchants and other stake holders, who make all the announcement that all the other sheep coin users/miners follow) that they need to upgrade to the new client that has the protocol changes. This is what's known as a "hard fork".

But, if everyone in the community doesn't upgrade to the new client in a timely manner (or the community splits), you'd end up with two separate but (presumably similar) coins. Those that upgraded cannot send to those who have not upgraded, and those that have not upgraded cannot send to those who have. Miners who don't upgrade will end up mining blocks that will never be recognized on the new network, and vise versa.

In fact, if everyone ran both versions of the client simultaneously, but with the same wallet.dat file, and you received coins to the wallet in both versions from people who used one client or the other, then you will end up seeing two separate balances. Similarly, if you decided to go on vacation and left your mining rig going (possibly in a solo mining situation with several hundred mega hashes), and then 3 days later the community found a huge security risk in the coin wallet that needed to be fixed with hard fork, then for the next 27 days you will end up mining blocks on a network that was been largely abandoned by the rest of the community (resulting, effectively, in a loss since no exchanges or merchants one will accept coins from the old network).

Hence, if you have any coin holdings or you are mining, it behooves you to maintain awareness of any news surrounding the coin that may arise. While extremely rare, and quite drastic, it does occasionally happen and you need to know what to do when the scenario occurs (generally achieved by reading what others are saying and go with the general consensus).
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March 21, 2014, 08:49:31 AM
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I think the closest example of this sort of thing happening in real life is if the national government were to re-denominate the currency by slicing 2-5 zeros off of every currency note after the currency gets too inflated (like, for example, Zimbabwe or Weimar Germany when inflation rose to absurd levels).  

The only difference is, the community can give the "official Devs", pool operators, exchange operators and other "influential people"  the middle finger and keep using the old client. It's mandatory but not really "mandatory" if you know what I mean (if you like having an outdated version of a coin all to yourself that is, along with the other true die hard fans of the "old money").

On the other hand, if a government decides to futz around with their money, there isn't much most folks can do but protest or go with the flow and adapt as best as possible since taxes must be paid in that currency.  
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March 21, 2014, 08:55:13 AM
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Very nice guys, thx for the awesome answers Cheesy

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