Crimea

[Balthazar]

LOL! People of Gaza wants to join Russian Federation

Link (ru)

[niothor]

LOL! People of Gaza wants to join Russian Federation

Link (ru)

Even if it is a joke , I would really want to see that happen

[tinus42]

I guess that we are going to have anti nuclear rallies again across Europe?

For "unilateral disarmament" again (ie: US+Europe gets rid of its nukes, Russia gets to keep theirs)?  

BTW: Some of the groups who proposed "unilateral disarmament" in the '80s were funded by the KGB.  

[Tzupy]

Quoting from Wikipedia:

The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances is a political agreement signed in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The Memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear-powers, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.
The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine as well as those of Belarus and Kazakhstan. As a result Ukraine gave up the world's third largest nuclear weapons stockpile between 1994 and 1996.

Between March 1994 and June 1996, about 2,000 nuclear munitions of strategic weapon systems were removed from Ukraine to Russia for disassembly. In all, considering tactical weapons, about 5,000 nuclear munitions were moved to Russia in almost 100 trains. On June 2, 1996 Ukraine officially lost its nuclear status.

According to the memorandum, Russia, the U.S., and the UK confirmed, in recognition of Ukraine becoming party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and in effect abandoning its nuclear arsenal to Russia, that they would:
Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within its existing borders.
Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
Seek United Nations Security Council action if nuclear weapons are used against Ukraine.
Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments.

Following the 2014 Crimean crisis, the U.S. and U.K. both separately stated that Russian involvement is in breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum, and in clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.

[Balthazar]

They are trying to exploit people's ignorance while claiming that Budapest Memorandum guarantees anything. It does not, because it's just a piece of paper.

Any treaty, memorandum or legislation does not apply until it has been ratified by all sides of deal. Neither Ukrainian nor Russian side have not been ratified this document. The USA and UK didn't ratified this memorandum too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratification

[BCEmporium]

This could be good news for people working around renewable energies.
With EU soon to isolate Russia again (hope Russians still remember how good life was back on late 80's at USSR, if not they will taste it again) the need for replacements of Russian gas will make EU to move towards alternative power sources.

[fsb4000]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26642169

EU soon to isolate Russia

[Balthazar]

It seems that BCEmporium is against of people's will, another fascist detected...

This could be good news for people working around renewable energies.

Ignorance is not surprising, greenpeace and another sectants are performing brainwashing during a significant amount of time. You need to know only a few things:

1) Water and Wind power are introducing the great ecological damage. Just one example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#Environmental_effects

2) Nuclear energy is the best choice, any "information" from Greenpeace is just a FUD.

3) The highest amount of energy is being consumed by industry. People's share is sometimes even lower than 10%.

4) There are no alternative energy sources which would be able to provide amounts of energy required for industrial purposes.

It's almost impossible to get enough energy required for aluminium or titanium industries from renewable energy sources. Only nuclear energy will be able to provide it.

By the way, one of the most powerful Solar Energy Stations is located in Crimea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perovo_Solar_Park

[247crypto]

With EU soon to isolate Russia again

Start to isolate Kaspersky right now.

[Nemo1024]

Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.

In that case US/EU broke the memorandum notes before Russia, or is financing, training and unleashing fascist forces to destabilise and overthrow a legitimate government from within considered OK?

[Balthazar]

In that case US/EU broke the memorandum notes before Russia, or is financing, training and unleashing fascist forces to destabilise and overthrow a legitimate government from within considered OK?

They didn't ratified this document, that's why they feel free violating it.

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtpIHmduiEY

[BCEmporium]

"People's will" isn't expressed during an armed invasion at a referendum without supervision and with ballots already filled up.

EU doesn't depend on Russia to Nuclear Power, we have our own. The only pressure point from Russia is about gas not Uranium or Plutonium. And yes, alternative energies can't provide for industry, but nobody is talking about it.

[Balthazar]

an armed invasion

Just like I said, your ignorance isn't surprising.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/crimean-referendum-at-gunpoint-is-a-myth-international-observers/5373767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdhT_2DO3Uw

EU doesn't depend on Russia to Nuclear Power, we have our own.

You don't have it... USA and EU depends on nuclear fuel supplies by RosAtom corporation.

[BCEmporium]

 
Soviets are still Soviets!  
Quoting RT (Russia Today) under a Canadian domain!  

About enriching nuclear fuel, obviously if we can do it elsewhere and contaminate to death some foreigner soil, why not? "Foreigner investment" is a pain, just a 3rd World country like yours (or mine for that matters) wants it. But... the technology to do it is American, not Russian and we can also produce it.

For the notice, I couldn't care less about Crimea. It's just another invaded country with its population replaced with foreigners - the same foreigners that now cast the votes. Democracy... no wonder it failed flat at Ancient Greece! It's so easy to change its outcome, change the voters and get whatever results you want.

USSR was a democracy too, just too bad the opposition was sent in a one-way trip to Siberia before they can cast any vote. USA on the other hand is a pseudo-democracy, the chain of delegation makes sure the base vote won't count much for the final outcome.

[tinus42]

They are trying to exploit people's ignorance while claiming that Budapest Memorandum guarantees anything. It does not, because it's just a piece of paper.

It's a scrap of paper.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1839)

[Nemo1024]

"People's will" isn't expressed during an armed invasion at a referendum without supervision and with ballots already filled up.

Three errors in once sentence. Speechless! Highlighted them for you. Now go and do some research, please.

[BCEmporium]

"People's will" isn't expressed during an armed invasion at a referendum without supervision and with ballots already filled up.

Three errors in once sentence. Speechless! Highlighted them for you. Now go and do some research, please.

Supervised by the Russian Army? 
Damn Soviets! Invite a bunch of fellows to play as observers and second the bullshit doesn't count.
Any referendum would need a campaign, a free campaign from both sides, public discussion, time for put the observers and prepare the operation. A referendum within 2 weeks with the Russian army around is a plain load of bullshit. Just a Soviet tactic to make it look like "the people's will".

[fsb4000]

USSR was a democracy too, just too bad the opposition was sent in a one-way trip to Siberia before they can cast any vote.

Why are foreigners afraid of Siberia? I live in the Siberia!! It's not scary

[247crypto]

Why are foreigners afraid of Siberia? I live in the Siberia!! It's not scary

I'm now in t-shirt and have +20C at sunny day. (Mediterranean isle)