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March 20, 2014, 10:25:36 AM
Last edit: March 20, 2014, 02:52:58 PM by Balthazar
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There is no excuse for this also:
Ahahaha  Grin There is no excuse for what? For the fact that they are telling you something that you don't like?Cheesy It's called a freedom of speech, did you heard about that?

- call all people at Maidan banderas, fascists etc.
Nobody said that, but I do. Because they are. They have stayed among nazis, they've  accepted nazi slogans ("Ктo нe cкaчeт, тoт мocкaль!" [1][2][3] and similar shit). And then they've betrayed own country by allowing nazi to get the power. If they are not nazis after that, then they are idiots. Just admit it. These mindless zombies deserve all the consequences.

By the way, this "Ктo нe cкaчeт, тoт мocкaль!" is very similar with Two minutes of Hate.

- said that troops with no id are not russian and we do not khow who are they
Do you have any proof for opposite statement? USA uses private company services, are you claiming that Putin is unable to do the same?

- said that Berkut has no weapon
Because they has no weapon. Otherwise they would be able to resolve this problem in a few minutes, don't be so naive. They are able to fight much stronger issues even without weapons.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366048.msg5746933#msg5746933

Just try to use own brain instead of TV, sorry.

- said that Ukrain is not a country
lol what?  Cheesy

Epilogue:

Of course, there could be some exaggeration on RT. But unlike FoxNews/CNN/<Other Ministry of Truth here> I haven't seen neither lie nor fabrications on the RT channels network. Their reporters are independent, and that was proven many times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CWshZUrPzE8#t=17

You have a right to have a point of view but everybody have the same right. If you are disaree with something then provide something more valuable then another FoxNews bullshit. Roll Eyes
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March 20, 2014, 05:18:02 PM
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And to demonstrate my point from this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494128.msg5800897#msg5800897
http://rt.com/politics/putin-rating-crimea-peak-041/
 Cheesy


On a different note:
http://rt.com/news/foreign-ministry-russia-sanctions-133/

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When will you realize that the Moscow funded "RT" isn't anywhere accepted as a reliable source of information?!  Roll Eyes

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March 20, 2014, 06:06:58 PM
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When will you realize that the Moscow funded "RT" isn't anywhere accepted as a reliable source of information?!  Roll Eyes

When will you realize that the Washington funded "CNN" isn't anywhere accepted as a reliable source of information?!  Roll Eyes

When will you realize that the London funded "BBC" isn't anywhere accepted as a reliable source of information?!  Roll Eyes

You just take your information and extrapolate it with your experience. I know that a leader's popularity in Russia rises proportionally with the amount of shit that the outside world pours on him (and, by extension, on every Russian) and with the steadfastness of his position. That's historical, and there's not reason for it to be different this time around.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 20, 2014, 06:27:48 PM
Last edit: March 20, 2014, 06:38:22 PM by Balthazar
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http://www.mk.ru/politics/article/2014/03/20/1001525-zaklyuchennyih-otbyivayuschih-srok-v-kryimskih-koloniyah-pridetsya-vyipustit.html

Interesting situation with crimean prisoners is being developed. Ukrainian side rejected request of extradition while Russian side has no reason to keep them in prison... Because they didn't anything bad in a russian jurisdiction. So it seems that prisoners will be freed with subsequent deportation to Ukraine. Lucky guys, I have to admit. Cheesy
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March 20, 2014, 06:36:13 PM
Last edit: March 20, 2014, 06:51:39 PM by Nemo1024
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http://www.mk.ru/politics/article/2014/03/20/1001525-zaklyuchennyih-otbyivayuschih-srok-v-kryimskih-koloniyah-pridetsya-vyipustit.html

Interesting situation with crimean prisoners is being developed. Ukrainian side rejected request of extradition while Russian side has no reason to keep them in prison... Because they didn't anything bad in a russian jurisdiction. So it seems that prisoners will be freed and departed soon. Lucky guys, I have to admit. Cheesy

Well, to clarify. Those prisoners who are citizens of Krym or sevastopol will receive Russian citizenship and will be released. The remainder will be driven to the Ukranian/Russian border and asked to leave the territory of RF. But this only applies to the ones who committed minor crimes. Murderers and serial criminals will be held under lock until the situation is resolved with Ukraine. Interestingly, many prisoners hope to not be extradited to Ukraine.

On to something different:

Found an interesting journalistic investigation by journalists from Washington:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/how_cold_war-hungry_neocons_stage_managed_liz_wahls_resignation_20140319

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It was a full 19 minutes before Wahl resigned. Inside the offices of the Foreign Policy Initiative, a neoconservative think tank in Washington D.C., a staffer logged on to the group’s Twitter account to announce the following:

“#WordOnTheStreet says that something big might happen on RT in about 20-25 minutes.”

Then, at 5:16, exactly 10 minutes before Wahl would quit on air, FPI tweeted:

“#WordOnTheStreet says you’re really going to want to tune in to RT: http://rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/ #SomethinBigMayBeGoingDown”

Up until two minutes before Wahl’s resignation, FPI took to Twitter again to urge its followers to tune in to RT.

And finally, at 5:26 p.m., at the very moment Wahl quit, FPI’s Twitter account broke the news: “RT Anchor RESIGNS ON AIR. She ‘cannot be part of a network that whitewashes the actions of Putin.’ ”

The tweets from FPI suggested a direct level of coordination between Wahl and the neoconservative think tank. Several calls to FPI for this story were not answered.

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Natalia Poklonskaya  Wink
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366048.msg5764392#msg5764392

It's better to don't underestimate her, because she has achieved the cancellation of several acquittals. She has ~12 years of experience in law enforcement, she investigated a number of terrible crimes. Roll Eyes


Very interesting. I like her even more.  Tongue

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB2k4cmvJJ0

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Are they leaving the region or what?
They are leaving republic now, but some part decided to stay. Some of them choose to recognize the new government, another part just ignores everything what happened (yep, it seems quite strange I agree). Ukrainian fleet is already moved to Odessa.

P.S. The inscription on the Parliament building is changed already:


http://www.interfax.ru/russia/366174
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As reported by "Interfax" in the Republic of Crimea, after Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree recognizing the military ranks of servicemen of Ukraine, 72 commanders and chiefs of military units, institutions and ships MoD decided to voluntarily move into the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces for further military service.


http://www.interfax.ru/russia/366159
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"You can talk about the thousands" - said to "Interfax" on Thursday, Prime Minister of Crimea Sergey Aksenov.

He estimated that three-quarters of Ukrainian soldiers who were on watch in the Crimea, ready to move to the side of the Russian Federation.

According to Aksenov, the vast majority of military units is already under the control of the defense of the Crimea. "We are currently negotiating on all parts. Coordinators communicate. Anyone who is willing to go without weapons, we provide such an opportunity," - he said.

It seems that Ukrainian militaries located in the Republic of Crimea made a decision to support the new government. Will see...
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Tractor was for the public eye to show as if Ukrainian forces didn't simply surrender, and to save the honour of the soldiers. The most interesting part happened in the second half of the video, where the actual transfer of military power happened. The whole transfer was agreed upon beforehand and didn't come as any surprise to the Ukrainian command of that base. The Ukrainian military amiably agreed with the Russian military. The Ukrainians were given free pass to enter and exit the base as they saw fit. They were also assured that the civilians will not cross the perimeter of the base.

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I like it, seems like a hollywood movie... I wish to see Chuck Norris here. Smiley

P.S. Some pictures from streets

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Interesting news from Crimea.  Grin

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26663168

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I3vCT9ss5E
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Despite she seams to have some issues with her mouth, she's quite a piece! It would be hard to decide if she ever runs against Yulia Timoshenko Grin

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March 21, 2014, 06:25:44 AM
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It would be simple enough...

1) She's smarter and much younger;
2) She's not a criminal.

3:0 Cheesy
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Smart isn't a quality but a handicap for women. I wouldn't want her to play chess...  Grin

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March 21, 2014, 08:46:51 AM
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Sweet! Cheesy

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 21, 2014, 08:57:31 AM
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It would be simple enough...

1) She's smarter and much younger;
2) She's not a criminal.

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Are you from Russia?
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Check my profile to find an answer.
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Are you from Russia, Germany or Greece?
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