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Author Topic: [GUIDE] GridSeed GC3355 5 Chip Setup/power/windows/linux/rpi by UnicornHasher  (Read 365609 times)
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March 16, 2014, 02:10:44 AM
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http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kobiconn/172-4207/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMv%2f60yVGPe5wBNY7Xjt6tclbkKJ8WANhs4%3d


So 1 GS at 12v 10w scrypt is .85A 1 GS at 12v 90w is 7.5A This cord is rated up to 300v (per manufacturer) and up to 16 Amp per (http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm)

I think I'll grab a few hundred before you peeps buy them up.

Wonder If they are even saving any space? 

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/specsheets/KC-300334.pdf

Looks like 10mm ish savings at least Smiley



You misinterpret the chart. 18 gauge wire is good for 16 amps only in a chassis use for SHORT RUNS in OPEN AIR (not bundled in any way). For power transmission (like you are proposing to use it) 18 gauge wire is only good for 2.3 amps.
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March 16, 2014, 02:31:00 AM
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So stepped things up dual mining SHA and Scypt to 800Mhz, and I am getting 6.4GH/s and 340Mh/s avg per gridseed, they get mildly warm but nothing that i would be concerned about.
Anyone try dual mining under windows at 850Mhz yet, I dont want to push them too far when mining sha alongside scrypt as the sha asics can get fairly warm.

Umm, you mean 340KHs Scrypt? Surely not MHs..... Ain't possible on a single 5 chip.
Still, those are excellent numbers for dual mining! Indeed!
And it proves that a lower clock speed is BETTER than higher speeds under this condition.

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March 16, 2014, 03:00:36 AM
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So stepped things up dual mining SHA and Scypt to 800Mhz, and I am getting 6.4GH/s and 340Mh/s avg per gridseed, they get mildly warm but nothing that i would be concerned about.
Anyone try dual mining under windows at 850Mhz yet, I dont want to push them too far when mining sha alongside scrypt as the sha asics can get fairly warm.

Umm, you mean 340KHs Scrypt? Surely not MHs..... Ain't possible on a single 5 chip.
Still, those are excellent numbers for dual mining! Indeed!
And it proves that a lower clock speed is BETTER than higher speeds under this condition.

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Yeah sorry kh/s let me correct that

Cool. I'm still impressed by your stats. Not supposed to happen but hey, this game is still evolving!
How did you get them mining in Dual mode again? What are your procedures? Following any set ones out here?  Links Links Links Wink
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March 16, 2014, 03:27:43 AM
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I am not trying to dissuade anyone from making their own cables or selling to others if that is is your goal.  But please, please overbuild them at a minimum.  I have been doing this for two years now with many hundreds of cables in the wild on many different platforms.  Just follow that small bit of advice for safety sake.  Know what wire gauges and connectors you are using and what they are capable of and please afford yourself 10-20% headroom just in case.

With the sizes of the farms I am seeing, fire is a real concern.  Be safe and happy mining. Smiley

Counting the number of data centers I get kicked out of while multiple suppliers fail to provide parts to cables Wink

I've got a set of cablez authentic ax1200 to 4 grid seed cables.  5 in total.  I paid 14b not a typo.  Any takers?

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March 16, 2014, 03:49:03 AM
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http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kobiconn/172-4207/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMv%2f60yVGPe5wBNY7Xjt6tclbkKJ8WANhs4%3d


So 1 GS at 12v 10w scrypt is .85A 1 GS at 12v 90w is 7.5A This cord is rated up to 300v (per manufacturer) and up to 16 Amp per (http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm)

I think I'll grab a few hundred before you peeps buy them up.

Wonder If they are even saving any space? 

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/specsheets/KC-300334.pdf

Looks like 10mm ish savings at least Smiley



You misinterpret the chart. 18 gauge wire is good for 16 amps only in a chassis use for SHORT RUNS in OPEN AIR (not bundled in any way). For power transmission (like you are proposing to use it) 18 gauge wire is only good for 2.3 amps.

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The Maximum Amps for Power Transmission uses the 700 circular mils per amp rule, which is very very conservative. The Maximum Amps for Chassis Wiring is also a conservative rating, but is meant for wiring in air, and not in a bundle.

0.85 < 2.3

 I recommend buying from people who know what they are doing (I sell hosting not power equipment)  Like it says in the OP use cablez product.  If someone has stock of a similar grade product PM me.   

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March 16, 2014, 04:29:24 AM
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0.85 < 2.3

0.85 < 2.3 < 7.5 < 16
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March 16, 2014, 05:01:26 AM
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Dual mode mining:
10 gridseeds (5 chip design)
Frequency=800
Gridminer setup
102Gh/s in SHA256
2.7Mh/s in Scrypt
Just under .02 BTC a day.
All ran with the stock supplied USB hub and controller. All 10 running dual mode on a 700w Thermaltake Power Supply.
Controller can be un-responsive after an hour of mining but reboots in a few minutes.
All items (PS, Miners, Controller, USB hub, additional fan) and a 7Gh BFL Jali on a 850w battery backup drawing out .065Kw (right at 13% load) at 115 volts.
Once someone can get dual mining in a PI, I will hook it up and go from there. Until then the PI will just sit here looking pretty.
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March 16, 2014, 05:11:54 AM
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Dual mode mining:
10 gridseeds (5 chip design)
Frequency=800
Gridminer setup
102Gh/s in SHA256
2.7Mh/s in Scrypt
Just under .02 BTC a day.
All ran with the stock supplied USB hub and controller. All 10 running dual mode on a 700w Thermaltake Power Supply.
Controller can be un-responsive after an hour of mining but reboots in a few minutes.
All items (PS, Miners, Controller, USB hub, additional fan) and a 7Gh BFL Jali on a 850w battery backup drawing out .065Kw (right at 13% load) at 115 volts.
Once someone can get dual mining in a PI, I will hook it up and go from there. Until then the PI will just sit here looking pretty.

Nice! I think I might solder my fans back on my pods and start hashing SHA too. I have been considering this for a few weeks now. Still, I love the low power draw and quiet, running S-CRYPT only!
It does bug me a bit that the SHA core is being wasted hence, I paid too much for each pod! ;(
Oh well. The price of Freedom!
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March 16, 2014, 06:29:19 AM
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Using the new compiled bfgminer from this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=168174.msg5689374#msg5689374 I was able to get it working with Minepeon for both gridseed and dualminer.  Will see how stable it runs since I was running it on the Pi with two cgminer instances.  Minepeon reports higher hashrate than the pool.

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March 16, 2014, 10:45:22 AM
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Anyone with more then 1 miner under windows have them dual mining with cpuminer and cgminer. Just making sure what I have working here is right. I have cgmine for the bitcoin and 2 instances of cpuminer different com ports for the scrypt. Thanks

why not use the new bfgminer ?
http://cryptomining-blog.com/1396-download-bfgminer-3-10-0-for-windows-scrypt-mining-on-gridseed-5-chip-asics/#comment-394

Jamie - I'm not opposed - I'm running ubunti/pi - are there any speed advantages to bfgminer?

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March 16, 2014, 11:12:35 AM
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I am using DUAL mode,
on 850 Mhz it never works for me,
on 800 Mhz - scrypt pool show me about 250-280 kh/s per device.
But on 750 Mhz better ! - 300-315 kh/s per device.

BTC mode almost always same, 92.54 Gh/s on pool per 10 devices.
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March 16, 2014, 03:00:42 PM
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My 6 GS5's ran for 30+ hours this time before they stopped mining. I'm using cpuminer  - Scrypt only - version.

After chasing up this problem and trying to solve it over the last few weeks, I've tried virtually everything short of re-programing the firmware on my miners, which I cannot do - obviously.

Darn it!!!! Right after I went to sleep, it takes a piss! AAarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

I wonder if GridSeed engineers left this but in their miners' firmware?

Has anyone been running their GridSeed Farm 24/7 stably WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION WHATSOEVER?

IF so, please tell me what your configuration is so WE can all set these things and not have to worry about this elusive little bug!!!?Huh

Has anyone come up with a macro to take care of detecting the hault then restarting each miner in cpuminer?
All I need is for it to monitor the window of each miner and when it stops producing yay's for say, 3 or so minutes, it stops the program without closing the window, resets the port, then restarts each miner 5 seconds apart.

Thanks
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March 16, 2014, 03:06:14 PM
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My 6 GS5's ran for 30+ hours this time before they stopped mining. I'm using cpuminer  - Scrypt only - version.

After chasing up this problem and trying to solve it over the last few weeks, I've tried virtually everything short of re-programing the firmware on my miners, which I cannot do - obviously.

Darn it!!!! Right after I went to sleep, it takes a piss! AAarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

I wonder if GridSeed engineers left this but in their miners' firmware?

Has anyone been running their GridSeed Farm 24/7 stably WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION WHATSOEVER?

IF so, please tell me what your configuration is so WE can all set these things and not have to worry about this elusive little bug!!!?Huh

Has anyone come up with a macro to take care of detecting the hault then restarting each miner in cpuminer?
All I need is for it to monitor the window of each miner and when it stops producing yay's for say, 3 or so minutes, it stops the program without closing the window, resets the port, then restarts each miner 5 seconds apart.

Thanks
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Wolfey,

What Platform are using to control the units?

I don't touch my gridseeds unless someone is leasing and asks for a change to be made.  I have 1 of mine and 2 customer units leased out on leaserig as well with no complaints. 

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March 16, 2014, 03:17:57 PM
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I am not trying to dissuade anyone from making their own cables or selling to others if that is is your goal.  But please, please overbuild them at a minimum.  I have been doing this for two years now with many hundreds of cables in the wild on many different platforms.  Just follow that small bit of advice for safety sake.  Know what wire gauges and connectors you are using and what they are capable of and please afford yourself 10-20% headroom just in case.

With the sizes of the farms I am seeing, fire is a real concern.  Be safe and happy mining. Smiley

Hey cablez,

Can you give some specific advice on wire gauges so I can add it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494625.msg5511232#msg5511232


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March 16, 2014, 03:20:02 PM
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My 6 GS5's ran for 30+ hours this time before they stopped mining. I'm using cpuminer  - Scrypt only - version.

After chasing up this problem and trying to solve it over the last few weeks, I've tried virtually everything short of re-programing the firmware on my miners, which I cannot do - obviously.

Darn it!!!! Right after I went to sleep, it takes a piss! AAarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

I wonder if GridSeed engineers left this but in their miners' firmware?

Has anyone been running their GridSeed Farm 24/7 stably WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION WHATSOEVER?

IF so, please tell me what your configuration is so WE can all set these things and not have to worry about this elusive little bug!!!?Huh

Has anyone come up with a macro to take care of detecting the hault then restarting each miner in cpuminer?
All I need is for it to monitor the window of each miner and when it stops producing yay's for say, 3 or so minutes, it stops the program without closing the window, resets the port, then restarts each miner 5 seconds apart.

Thanks
Wolfey2014

Ditch the controller and use a Windows or Linux box, optimally a raspberry pi.

I think you'll see most of your problems disappear... just a hunch though.

Good luck!
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March 16, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
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My 6 GS5's ran for 30+ hours this time before they stopped mining. I'm using cpuminer  - Scrypt only - version.

After chasing up this problem and trying to solve it over the last few weeks, I've tried virtually everything short of re-programing the firmware on my miners, which I cannot do - obviously.

Darn it!!!! Right after I went to sleep, it takes a piss! AAarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

I wonder if GridSeed engineers left this but in their miners' firmware?

Has anyone been running their GridSeed Farm 24/7 stably WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION WHATSOEVER?

IF so, please tell me what your configuration is so WE can all set these things and not have to worry about this elusive little bug!!!?Huh

Has anyone come up with a macro to take care of detecting the hault then restarting each miner in cpuminer?
All I need is for it to monitor the window of each miner and when it stops producing yay's for say, 3 or so minutes, it stops the program without closing the window, resets the port, then restarts each miner 5 seconds apart.

Thanks
Wolfey2014

Wolfey,

What Platform are using to control the units?

I don't touch my gridseeds unless someone is leasing and asks for a change to be made.  I have 1 of mine and 2 customer units leased out on leaserig as well with no complaints. 

I'm running cpuminer - Scrypt only version, on Windows 7.
How may GS5's are you running? No problems? No failures?


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March 16, 2014, 03:21:11 PM
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I am not trying to dissuade anyone from making their own cables or selling to others if that is is your goal.  But please, please overbuild them at a minimum.  I have been doing this for two years now with many hundreds of cables in the wild on many different platforms.  Just follow that small bit of advice for safety sake.  Know what wire gauges and connectors you are using and what they are capable of and please afford yourself 10-20% headroom just in case.

With the sizes of the farms I am seeing, fire is a real concern.  Be safe and happy mining. Smiley

Hey cablez,

Can you give some specific advice on wire gauges so I can add it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494625.msg5511232#msg5511232


He shows that he is going to use 18 AWG here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74397.msg5524959#msg5524959
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March 16, 2014, 03:26:37 PM
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I'm running cpuminer - Scrypt only version, on Windows 7.
How may GS5's are you running? No problems? No failures?

Ah, I see you're already on a host computer. Disregard my last message.

I suggest you mess around with trying to cgminer to work, maybe that will solve your problems.
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March 16, 2014, 03:30:18 PM
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Wolfey,

What Platform are using to control the units?

I don't touch my gridseeds unless someone is leasing and asks for a change to be made.  I have 1 of mine and 2 customer units leased out on leaserig as well with no complaints. 

I'm running cpuminer - Scrypt only version, on Windows 7.
How may GS5's are you running? No problems? No failures?

I'm running cpuminer - Scrypt only version, on Windows 7.
How may GS5's are you running? No problems? No failures?

Ah, I see you're already on a host computer. Disregard my last message.

I suggest you mess around with trying to cgminer to work, maybe that will solve your problems.

Does anyone else run these on windows with cpuminer that can vouch for stability?

I'm thinking you are using a linux based system CoinHoarder?

Wolfey what is your HUB and Power Supply?

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March 16, 2014, 03:33:42 PM
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I am not trying to dissuade anyone from making their own cables or selling to others if that is is your goal.  But please, please overbuild them at a minimum.  I have been doing this for two years now with many hundreds of cables in the wild on many different platforms.  Just follow that small bit of advice for safety sake.  Know what wire gauges and connectors you are using and what they are capable of and please afford yourself 10-20% headroom just in case.

With the sizes of the farms I am seeing, fire is a real concern.  Be safe and happy mining. Smiley

Hey cablez,

Can you give some specific advice on wire gauges so I can add it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494625.msg5511232#msg5511232


He shows that he is going to use 18 AWG here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74397.msg5524959#msg5524959

Thank You.

What are you using for power solutions in your farm?

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