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September 09, 2020, 02:08:28 AM
Last edit: September 20, 2020, 02:36:32 PM by Coinfan
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The Rock Trading CFO posted another blatant lie with his new account marco777, that he created after being banned as eliale, and denied being him:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg54725279#msg54725279

He had the nerve to write he was just a customer!

The Rock CFO/eliale created the account Marco777 on the same exact day that the Rock CTO paci posted on my Italian thread, 28 March 2020, after paci was 2 years without posting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg54112606#msg54112606

Just compare the writing (Oppure means OR):

there are only 2 situations in your case:

1) You are the owner of the account

or

2) You control an account which belongs to another person and, most likely, she is not aware.

i casi sono 2:

1) sei un troll seriale e compulsivo

Oppure

2) hai rubato il conto e cerchi d'impossesarti dei fondi non tuoi.......


This Marco777 posted only on my italian thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile&u=2786780&sa=showPosts

And he knows very well the Rock TOS:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg54534729#msg54534729

In the past, the Rock CFO created also a fake account to support himself:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg45560191#msg45560191



I guess he thinks that he can scam and post lie after lie and that people will still trust him with their money!

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September 09, 2020, 10:35:18 AM
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So the Rock Trading scammers are still using the Italian board to peddle their lies?

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September 16, 2020, 12:02:37 PM
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The Rock Trading posted another blatant lie with his new account marco777, that he created after being banned as eliale, and denied being him:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg54725279#msg54725279

He had the nerve to write he was just a customer!

Besides other facts, just compare the writing:

there are only 2 situations in your case:

1) You are the owner of the account

or

2) You control an account which belongs to another person and, most likely, she is not aware.

1) sei un troll seriale e compulsivo

Oppure

2) hai rubato il conto e cerchi d'impossesarti dei fondi non tuoi.......


I guess he thinks that he can scam and post lie after lie and that people will still trust him with their money!
Another of my favorite scammers. Medri doesnt give up and his business is also still online. Another instance where it seems crime is compensating. OP at least you didnt give up. keep on toasting them. I am keeping my signature as I wont forget this scammer easily. With covid he got a little of what is waiting him.

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September 16, 2020, 04:05:16 PM
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I also hope the OP who was a victim of the Rock Trading scam does not give up and keeps posting about those scammers. How much longer will the Rock Trading scammers continue to hold funds that belong to the OP?

Another of my favorite scammers. Medri doesnt give up and his business is also still online. Another instance where it seems crime is compensating. OP at least you didnt give up. keep on toasting them. I am keeping my signature as I wont forget this scammer easily. With covid he got a little of what is waiting him.

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September 20, 2020, 10:46:32 AM
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I also hope the OP who was a victim of the Rock Trading scam does not give up and keeps posting about those scammers. How much longer will the Rock Trading scammers continue to hold funds that belong to the OP?

Another of my favorite scammers. Medri doesnt give up and his business is also still online. Another instance where it seems crime is compensating. OP at least you didnt give up. keep on toasting them. I am keeping my signature as I wont forget this scammer easily. With covid he got a little of what is waiting him.

This will go on until the Italian authorities force them to return the money. We all know it will be the only way they will return the money.

I think the Rock CFO is not yet aware of the pending decision of the Italian Garante of Privacy. He will get the scare of his life when he gets the notification.

He thinks this won't be decided. Maybe he his hoping that the confusion and delays created by the pandemic will save him.

SCAM ALERT: The Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it blocked "forever".
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September 26, 2020, 01:47:12 AM
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The Rock Trading is raising capital on a crowdfunding site. I thought it was on https://www.opstart.ca/ and that it wasn't already active, but a forum member gave me the right link:
https://www.opstart.it/progetto/digital-rock-holding/

He also told me that he contacted the site and informed them about the critical problems with the Rock Trading.

If now that Opstart.it is completely aware of this, it doesn't inform their customers about these "problems" and let them waste money on the Rock, when the Rock goes down because of this, Opstart.it will have to answer for withholding essential information.


SCAM ALERT: The Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it blocked "forever".
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September 26, 2020, 10:52:33 AM
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With this information in mind it really deserves its own Scam Accusation thread. I will start typing it up.

Thank you Coinfan. I hope you never let these scammers off the hook for the way they scammed you. I hope their scam business collapses before they steal from other users.



The Rock Trading is raising capital on a crowdfunding site. I thought it was on https://www.opstart.ca/ and that it wasn't already active, but a forum member gave me the right link:
https://www.opstart.it/progetto/digital-rock-holding/

He also told me that he contacted the site and informed them about the critical problems with the Rock Trading.

If now that Opstart.it is completely aware of this, it doesn't inform their customers about these "problems" and let them waste money on the Rock, when the Rock goes down because of this, Opstart.it will have to answer for withholding essential information.



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October 01, 2020, 10:00:42 PM
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With this information in mind it really deserves its own Scam Accusation thread. I will start typing it up.

Thank you Coinfan. I hope you never let these scammers off the hook for the way they scammed you. I hope their scam business collapses before they steal from other users.


That would be an excellent idea.

Italian Act 231/2007, as changed by Act 90/2017, which regulates precisely Anti-Money Laundering, doesn't demand verification of identity for bitcoin withdrawals (article 3, n. 5, i) and, in any case, says
"Art. 42 (Abstention). - 1. The obligated subjects who find themselves in the objective impossibility of
carrying out an adequate identity verification of their customers
, pursuant to the provisions of article 19, paragraph 1, letters a), b) and c), must refrain from establishing, executing or continuing the relationship, the professional performance and transactions and consider whether to make a suspicious transaction report to the FIU in accordance with Article 35."

This means that even when the rule of identity verification is applicable (which is not the case), they have to terminate the account and return the money if they can't verify the customer.

They could not in any case keep the money blocked, let alone "forever", as the Rock Trading CFO confessed he was going to do and is confirming by his actions.

Which confirms once again that their KYC excuse is just another lie to keep my money.


"Art. 42 (Astensione). - 1. I soggetti obbligati che si trovano nell'impossibilita' oggettiva di
effettuare l'adeguata verifica della clientela, ai sensi delle disposizioni di cui all'articolo 19, comma 1, lettere a), b) e c), si astengono dall'instaurare, eseguire ovvero proseguire il rapporto, la
prestazione professionale e le operazioni e valutano se effettuare una segnalazione di operazione sospetta alla UIF a norma dell'articolo 35.".
https://www.organismo-am.it/documenti/Normativa/D.lgs.%2025%20maggio%202017%20n.%2090.pdf


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October 08, 2020, 09:33:33 PM
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My public thanks to suchmoon who also recently gave merits to my OP. Another Legendary, old and respected forum member, decided to support this thread.

Every supports helps promoting this warning against the Rock Trading Exchange which will help informing potential and current customers and make them think twice before trusting them.

This is on a decisive phase, taking in account the imminent decision of the Italian authority which accepted this case.


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October 14, 2020, 08:23:37 PM
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That, even if they are on the bitcoin world almost since the beginning, the Rock Trading is incapable of self-financing and has to raise capital from crowdfunding investors says a lot about the competence of the CFO.

They completely wasted an once in a life time opportunity to make money with the bitcoin miracle. No wonder that the Rock CFO used all lies possible and impossible to try to steal my money.

Too bad that this will be the most costly thing that he made on his life.

SCAM ALERT: The Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it blocked "forever".
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October 23, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
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On the crowdfunding, they evaluated the Rock Trading on more than 13 million euro!

An exchange that can't even earn enough to fund itself after more than 10 years on a miracle market!

An exchange with a few customers, fake volume and managed by people with serious legal problems, to avoid using any other words. Problems that they hided the best they could.

What a joke!


SCAM ALERT: The Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it blocked "forever".
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October 29, 2020, 12:00:28 AM
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By now they already confirmed the case with the Garante of Privacy, that was only accepted because they received backing personal documents.

But, clearly, the Rock CFO will only return the money when the italian police goes pick him up on his home.

There are people who never realize when their scam backfired.

SCAM ALERT: The Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it blocked "forever".
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They are already in serious problems because of my case and the serious consequences it will have not only for the Rock Trading, but also to them.

But their problems won't end there.

They hided this problem and so their investors will lose serious money with their investment on the Rock, when it ends bad by italian authorities decision.

So, they will have their investors also going after them.




SCAM ALERT: The Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it blocked "forever".
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November 07, 2020, 03:31:21 PM
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The Rock CFO now is saying he is going to close my account and "send" the money to a "third party".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg55476135#msg55476135

Of course, he is saying this just because his fake KYC was revealed as completely illegal under the quoted article 42 of Italian Law 231/2007.

They should have closed my account more than 2.5 years ago and returned the money then.

This guy doesn't know when to stop.

SCAM ALERT: The Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it blocked "forever".
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November 07, 2020, 11:38:56 PM
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Where are you with the Arbitration? What are the Italian authorities doing about your claim? Right now the scammers are enjoying the cash they made from the fundraising from the Opstart website. They raised over €1.5 million for their scam Rock Trading exchange which has been funded by investors not knowing the exchange is operated by scammers.

Even now these scammers are refusing to pay you what they stole from you?


The Rock CFO now is saying he is going to close my account and "send" the money to a "third party".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg55476135#msg55476135

Of course, he is saying this just because his fake KYC was revealed as completely illegal under the quoted article 42 of Italian Law 231/2007.

They should have closed my account more than 2.5 years ago and returned the money then.

This guy doesn't know when to stop.

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November 09, 2020, 08:41:02 AM
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Good morning everybody,

as already stated in the Italian chat, we will deposit a criminal procedure for defamation and any other possible claims against Coinfan with the Italian authorities on this wednesday.  

As soon as I registered the claim with Polizia Postale e delle Telecomunicazioni, I'll publish a copy of the registered official act  on this chat and, any other channel Coinfan spamed his accusations. It is intended that, for privacy reasons we'll omit sensible data.

In the meantime we will copy Bitcointalk legal department in order for them to be aware of the situation.

Subsequently, after a consultation with our lawyers, we will transfer customer funds in an authorized segregated account. Funds will be available to the authorities or to the legitimate owner.  Also in this case, as soon as completed, we will provide proof of transfer.

On a side note I confirm that, up to now, we didn't receive any kind of request from the authorities as claimed by Coinfan.

Thank you

Andrea Medri


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November 09, 2020, 10:38:12 AM
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This total fool called Andrea Medri is making statements that are created to make smoke screens to avoid the actual issue. The Rock Trading owners selective scammed Coinfan out of thousands of Euros then went on to say they were worried about the welfare of the real holder of the account and alluded that Coinfan had maybe murdered the real owner of the account and was trying to pretend to be the account holder in order to try to get the stolen funds.

Now these total failures have managed to raise a sum of just €1.5m at the Opstart fundraising website but id they were a successful exchange making lots of money since they were created all those years ago, why would they need €1.5m ?

Andrea Medri = What a fool...


Good morning everybody,

as already stated in the Italian chat, we will deposit a criminal procedure for defamation and any other possible claims against Coinfan with the Italian authorities on this wednesday.  

As soon as I registered the claim with Polizia Postale e delle Telecomunicazioni, I'll publish a copy of the registered official act  on this chat and, any other channel Coinfan spamed his accusations. It is intended that, for privacy reasons we'll omit sensible data.

In the meantime we will copy Bitcointalk legal department in order for them to be aware of the situation.

Subsequently, after a consultation with our lawyers, we will transfer customer funds in an authorized segregated account. Funds will be available to the authorities or to the legitimate owner.  Also in this case, as soon as completed, we will provide proof of transfer.

On a side note I confirm that, up to now, we didn't receive any kind of request from the authorities as claimed by Coinfan.

Thank you

Andrea Medri



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November 11, 2020, 10:35:53 AM
Last edit: November 13, 2020, 01:20:41 PM by eliale
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Dear readers,

this morning, as anticipated, we filed a formal criminal complaint for aggravated defamation against Coinfan.

Unfortunately, over the past two years, we have tried countless times to persuade the defendant to proceed with the identification for two simple reasons:

1) Verify that she was the real owner of the account
2) Comply with the regulations in force that require us to do this

Our requests turned out to be in vain. Several times we have urged Coinfan to take legal action against us with our aim of obtaining what is requested but, despite the fact that he has declared several times that he has done so, the waiting for the promised act continues.

At the same time, on this chat and in several others, the same has always maintained a seriously harmful and defamatory attitude towards us, hiding behind anonymity.

Consequently, unfortunately, our act is due in order to protect our interests, those of our members and show that we have nothing to hide.

At the following link G drive you will find a copy of the deed from which, for obvious reasons, we have hidden sensitive data: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

In this folder, we will upload any  relevant documents about the case.

We will shortly notify the legal department of Bitcointalk about the legal procedure. It is up to them to decide how to handle the fact.

We know that Coinfan will try to "hide" this statement by writing several messages after this. For this reason, unless bitcointalk decides to freeze this chat, we will resume our declaration from time to time.

As you can understand, we will not discuss this issue with the community as there is an ongoing judicial investigation but, we will limit ourselves only to updating you of any possible development

Andrea Medri
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November 11, 2020, 10:56:45 AM
Last edit: November 14, 2020, 10:11:14 AM by JollyGood
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Absolute trash!

We will see what Coinfan will say when they next log in here and read the rubbish you posted which not so co-incidentally occurred after your little Rock Trading raised 1.5M euro in fundraising from investors that have no idea about the evidence all pointing to selective scamming from a tiny little exchange that will never become a big player.

In the end, you are the one who lost out because outside the small circle of investors that for some inexplicable reasons handed you 1.5m euro, the reputation of this exchange is in the gutter where it belongs and all because you refused to payout 35,000+ euro to the person that was the rightful owner by making pointless excuses. You could have released the funds back in crypto from wallet to wallet but you used that whole fiat bank transfer drama to create a diversion and cite all sorts of nonsense about real identity

You deserve a special place in hell for what you did to the OP, you made every effort to make it impossible for the OP to get their funds back and all the evidence is in this thread is starting from the first page and then it becomes clear you held on to those funds as a grudge after your trashy little exchange got exposed for selective scamming the OP.



Dear readers,

this morning, as anticipated, we filed a formal criminal complaint for aggravated defamation against Coinfan.

Unfortunately, over the past two years, we have tried countless times to persuade the defendant to proceed with the identification for two simple reasons:

1) Verify that she was the real owner of the account
2) Comply with the regulations in force that require us to do this

Our requests turned out to be in vain. Several times we have urged Coinfan to take legal action against us with our aim of obtaining what is requested but, despite the fact that he has declared several times that he has done so, the waiting for the promised act continues.

At the same time, on this chat and in several others, the same has always maintained a seriously harmful and defamatory attitude towards us, hiding behind anonymity.

Consequently, unfortunately, our act is due in order to protect our interests, those of our members and show that we have nothing to hide.

At the following link G drive you will find a copy of the deed from which, for obvious reasons, we have hidden sensitive data: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

In this folder, we will upload any  relevant documents about the case.

We will shortly notify the legal department of Bitcointalk about the legal procedure. It is up to them to decide how to handle the fact.

We know that Coinfan will try to "hide" this statement by writing several messages after this. For this reason, unless bitcointalk decides to freeze this chat, we will resume our declaration from time to time.

As you can understand, we will not discuss this issue with the community as there is an ongoing judicial investigation but, we will limit ourselves only to updating you of any possible development

Andrea Medri
The Rock Trading srl


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November 13, 2020, 09:54:29 PM
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Absolute trash!

We will see what Coinfan will say when they next log in here and read the rubbish you posted which not so co-incidentally occurred after your little Rock Trading raised 1.5M euro in fundraising from investors that have no idea about the evidence all pointing to selective scamming from a tiny little exchange that will never become a big player.

In the end, you are the one who lost out because outside the small circle of investors that some inexplicable reasons handed you 1.5m euro, the reputation of this exchange is in the gutter where it belongs and all because you refused to payout 35,000+ euro to the person that was the rightful owner by making pointless excuses. You could have released the funds back in crypto from wallet to wallet but you used that whole fiat bank transfer drama to create a diversion and cite all sorts of nonsense about real identity

You deserve a special place in hell for what you did to the OP, you made every effort to make it impossible for the OP to get their funds back and all the evidence is in this thread is starting from the first page and then it becomes clear you held on to those funds as a grudge after your trashy little exchange got exposed for selective scamming the OP.

Of course, he could never find a lawyer to write this. He incriminates himself. The text has several lies very easily proven, that I will detailed with more time.

You are right on the spot. He found the crazy courage to do this precisely because of the 1.5 million he managed to raise by hiding all his legal problems (lets not forget also the Bitgrail case, that I don't know about how it's going). Probably, the crowdfunding site Opstart refused to give him the money until he solved this.

Having to decide between my 35500 euro and the 1,5 million, he obviously opted for the second amount.

It's not clear if he sent also the email connected to the account with the money. I'm expecting the police will contact before dismisses this ridiculous complaint. At least because of the amount involved.

I hope the Police won't ignore this, as the prosecutor office of Genoa did about the denunciation against them made on 2019.

He will answer criminally for what he done. And he still has the pending case with the Italian Garante of Privacy, beside the several complaints sent to the Italian Organismo Agenti e Mediatori.

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