[ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision (Old Thread)

[hv_]

I'm flattered.

About par for the mental caliber of your average BSV muppet.

Yeah, they keep digging, they act so alike their beloved fraudtoshi.

Funny. U just cannot define for yourself what u little block should do - except hate the big ones

Grow up - start getting big all over

 

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[hv_]

Many good things happened aftre bch did split off by ctor and dsv from BitCoin

(Edit: look, they are just splitting and fighting again/still: https://twitter.com/SpartanPrairie/status/1195738628825239553?s=20)

Now since lots of dark forces and anarchy / anonymity/ anti compliance folks/ protocol alterer are gone out of Original BitCoin things move on for clean stable and scalable BitCoin protocol

https://twitter.com/liujackc/status/1195298816385118209

We see lots have a serious problem with such transparency and open money ledger, but - lol - these guys
Cannot come up with their stuff in public ( anonymous is not really sustainable, it only helps corruption)

Only here they try to shut free speech and choice down.

I hear the fear

[hv_]

Getting more heat , and yes ctor was really totally irrelevant, but happy they are on the different side now

https://twitter.com/SpartanPrairie/status/1195758489240580097?s=20

And no, Satoshi was right about BitCoins privacy model.

Only he stayed mostly anonymous himself...

Money is a traceable thing. Anonymous things are crap. Satoshi knew that

Trolls don't bite here, again

[Do_zzze]

Getting more heat , and yes ctor was really totally irrelevant, but happy they are on the different side now

https://twitter.com/SpartanPrairie/status/1195758489240580097?s=20

And no, Satoshi was right about BitCoins privacy model.

Only he stayed mostly anonymous himself...

Money is a traceable thing. Anonymous things are crap. Satoshi knew that

Trolls don't bite here, again

Anonymous things are crap

 

Why is crap ?

[hv_]

Getting more heat , and yes ctor was really totally irrelevant, but happy they are on the different side now

https://twitter.com/SpartanPrairie/status/1195758489240580097?s=20

And no, Satoshi was right about BitCoins privacy model.

Only he stayed mostly anonymous himself...

Money is a traceable thing. Anonymous things are crap. Satoshi knew that

Trolls don't bite here, again

Anonymous things are crap

 

Why is crap ?

It rather enables crime and corruption. U just invite thieves cause u got nothing against and u shit on the honest.

It does not give anything back for the average ppk

Good privacy is enough and u need to be compliant with money per default or ur money is tainted per se

https://mobile.twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1195793630398689280

[Do_zzze]

Getting more heat , and yes ctor was really totally irrelevant, but happy they are on the different side now

https://twitter.com/SpartanPrairie/status/1195758489240580097?s=20

And no, Satoshi was right about BitCoins privacy model.

Only he stayed mostly anonymous himself...

Money is a traceable thing. Anonymous things are crap. Satoshi knew that

Trolls don't bite here, again

Anonymous things are crap

 

Why is crap ?

It rather enables crime and corruption. U just invite thieves cause u got nothing against and u shit on the honest.

It does not give anything back for the average ppk

Good privacy is enough and u need to be compliant with money per default or ur money is tainted per se

https://mobile.twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1195793630398689280

When I think anonymous I don't think directly of corruption or crimes but "untraceable" fonction confidential just so that my neighbor doesn't get involved in my finances or my contracts but as you explain now i understand that this perspective is indeed largely plausible. Well for my part I find the work developed on BSV admirable to lead towards the direction of perfection! Personally just misses my finances "stuck" on other projects to be able to come.... One on the development of NFTs and the other on anonymity but nothing progresses as quickly as the surprising results of BSV after that is also a question of financial means and the number of protagonists. With BSV you are very, very far from DIY at the end of the string, it's obvious. Many here use themselves to plead bullshit while the observation is obvious segwit kills bitcoin btc, bsv is much superior in every respect. I hope that Christmas will come this year as it was two years ago, would be ideal to switch between high and low. I regret that the BSV masterpiece was not born in early 2018, but that is the way it is.

[CookyCook72]

Great moments will come with BSV, people work to this

[ðºÞæ]

With BSV huge blocks represent the success of the system.
With BTC huge fees represent the success of the system.
Invest wisely.

[hv_]

Getting more heat , and yes ctor was really totally irrelevant, but happy they are on the different side now

https://twitter.com/SpartanPrairie/status/1195758489240580097?s=20

And no, Satoshi was right about BitCoins privacy model.

Only he stayed mostly anonymous himself...

Money is a traceable thing. Anonymous things are crap. Satoshi knew that

Trolls don't bite here, again

Anonymous things are crap

 

Why is crap ?

It rather enables crime and corruption. U just invite thieves cause u got nothing against and u shit on the honest.

It does not give anything back for the average ppk

Good privacy is enough and u need to be compliant with money per default or ur money is tainted per se

https://mobile.twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1195793630398689280

When I think anonymous I don't think directly of corruption or crimes but "untraceable" fonction confidential just so that my neighbor doesn't get involved in my finances or my contracts but as you explain now i understand that this perspective is indeed largely plausible. Well for my part I find the work developed on BSV admirable to lead towards the direction of perfection! Personally just misses my finances "stuck" on other projects to be able to come.... One on the development of NFTs and the other on anonymity but nothing progresses as quickly as the surprising results of BSV after that is also a question of financial means and the number of protagonists. With BSV you are very, very far from DIY at the end of the string, it's obvious. Many here use themselves to plead bullshit while the observation is obvious segwit kills bitcoin btc, bsv is much superior in every respect. I hope that Christmas will come this year as it was two years ago, would be ideal to switch between high and low. I regret that the BSV masterpiece was not born in early 2018, but that is the way it is.

U mixing up two things, u want privacy, that s what BitCoin will give u, especially used by billions in big blocks

It is hard to find out for ur neighbors what u do, but u still can prove who has stolen ur coins if that value is higher than the work to do i.o. to find out the crime and trace it. Such that it make sense to kill government corruption and big crimes perfectly.

Average Joe txs not affected, but if u need to proof u little guys are clean, u can show that in few secs.

Anonymity kills such , and u invite corruption and fat crime, when Average Joe pays for with tainted coins and is used as human mixer.  That is NOT BitCoin, never was, despite what the criminal Hijackers here will tell you and try to alter BitCoin to get more anno and anarcho. - > crime user go up

[Do_zzze]

Getting more heat , and yes ctor was really totally irrelevant, but happy they are on the different side now

https://twitter.com/SpartanPrairie/status/1195758489240580097?s=20

And no, Satoshi was right about BitCoins privacy model.

Only he stayed mostly anonymous himself...

Money is a traceable thing. Anonymous things are crap. Satoshi knew that

Trolls don't bite here, again

Anonymous things are crap

 

Why is crap ?

It rather enables crime and corruption. U just invite thieves cause u got nothing against and u shit on the honest.

It does not give anything back for the average ppk

Good privacy is enough and u need to be compliant with money per default or ur money is tainted per se

https://mobile.twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1195793630398689280

When I think anonymous I don't think directly of corruption or crimes but "untraceable" fonction confidential just so that my neighbor doesn't get involved in my finances or my contracts but as you explain now i understand that this perspective is indeed largely plausible. Well for my part I find the work developed on BSV admirable to lead towards the direction of perfection! Personally just misses my finances "stuck" on other projects to be able to come.... One on the development of NFTs and the other on anonymity but nothing progresses as quickly as the surprising results of BSV after that is also a question of financial means and the number of protagonists. With BSV you are very, very far from DIY at the end of the string, it's obvious. Many here use themselves to plead bullshit while the observation is obvious segwit kills bitcoin btc, bsv is much superior in every respect. I hope that Christmas will come this year as it was two years ago, would be ideal to switch between high and low. I regret that the BSV masterpiece was not born in early 2018, but that is the way it is.

U mixing up two things, u want privacy, that s what BitCoin will give u, especially used by billions in big blocks

It is hard to find out for ur neighbors what u do, but u still can prove who has stolen ur coins if that value is higher than the work to do i.o. to find out the crime and trace it. Such that it make sense to kill government corruption and big crimes perfectly.

Average Joe txs not affected, but if u need to proof u little guys are clean, u can show that in few secs.

Anonymity kills such , and u invite corruption and fat crime, when Average Joe pays for with tainted coins and is used as human mixer.  That is NOT BitCoin, never was, despite what the criminal Hijackers here will tell you and try to alter BitCoin to get more anno and anarcho. - > crime user go up

Thank you. Your explanations have enlightened me. I understand that by "trusting" the anonymous parts systems they just used me to mix. I can't provoke anything and can only wait for the flying cars to pass by and hope to purge the snake oil they injected me with.

[Hueristic]

We see lots have a serious problem with such transparency and open money ledger, but - lol - these guys
Cannot come up with their stuff in public ( anonymous is not really sustainable, it only helps corruption)

Satoshi was pretty big on anonymity and privacy, in case you didn't know. From the bitcoin white paper which your clonecoin has plagiarized:

As an additional firewall, a new key pair should be used for each transaction to keep them
from being linked to a common owner.

On the forum, he made sure that people could connect to the network through Tor:

There will be a proxy setting in version 0.2 so you can connect through TOR.  I've done a careful scrub to make sure it doesn't use DNS or do anything that would leak your IP while in proxy mode.

He also talks about how bitcoin can be used to help people who want to stay anonymous:

...
It would be nice if we made some free PHP code for an image and file hosting service that charges Bitcoins.  Anyone with some extra bandwidth quota could throw it on their webserver and run it.  Users could finally pay the minor fee to cover bandwidth cost and avoid the limits and hassles.  Ideally, it should be MIT license or public domain.

Services like this would be great for anonymous users, who have trouble paying for things.

... I've always thought the standard payment methods are at odds with privacy minded customers.

Here's satoshi mulling over the idea of implementing zero knowledge proofs in bitcoin:

This is a very interesting topic.  If a solution was found, a much better, easier, more convenient implementation of Bitcoin would be possible.

Originally, a coin can be just a chain of signatures.  With a timestamp service, the old ones could be dropped eventually before there's too much backtrace fan-out, or coins could be kept individually or in denominations.  It's the need to check for the absence of double-spends that requires global knowledge of all transactions.

The challenge is, how do you prove that no other spends exist?  It seems a node must know about all transactions to be able to verify that.  If it only knows the hash of the in/outpoints, it can't check the signatures to see if an outpoint has been spent before.  Do you have any ideas on this?

I really should thank you for being so wrong all of the time, with each and every comment you write. It encourages me to learn more about what bitcoin is actually about. Basically, whatever you say, I learn the exact opposite is actually the truth, so thanks!

And you can also see why many of us are Monero fans.

[Anarcocapitalista]

https://sv.coin.dance/blocks

Proof is here. bitcoin SV now averaging bigger blocks the BTC on a daily basis. This explains the recent price surge for BSV. If Bitcoin SV continues increasing block sizes at this growth rate, it will be a very slow death for BTC. BSV price will continue to increase simply because there will be an incentive for miners to mine the most profitable chain.

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[Phinnaeus Gage]

https://sv.coin.dance/blocks

Proof is here. bitcoin SV now averaging bigger blocks the BTC on a daily basis. This explains the recent price surge for BSV. If Bitcoin SV continues increasing block sizes at this growth rate, it will be a very slow death for BTC. BSV price will continue to increase simply because there will be an incentive for miners to mine the most profitable chain.

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For the last 48 hours or so Bitcoin SV has been more profitable to mine than BTC. These (https://sv.coin.dance/blocks) block size stats suggest stable and organic growth given the apps and use-cases built on top of the BSV block chain. The majority of transactions come from a weather app, Twetch, Bitstagram, bitpico and other content creating applications built on top of the BSV blockchain with a monetary incentive. A direct result of these apps have created real micro-payment volume and these applications seem to be increasing daily. For this reason I expect a lot of miners to switch over to BSV within the next month.

[Iamtutut]

97% of BSV blockchain use is for bullshit cand crap, and this info comes from a BSV shill

https://twitter.com/duceswild557/status/1195427782161051650



What's preev ? "PREEV - Simple Bitcoin Converter"
https://www.bsvdevs.com/index.php/detail/preev-simple-bitcoin-converter
https://preev.pro/

The peer to peer digital currency accounts for 2.1%.

[ðºÞæ]

97% of BSV blockchain use is for bullshit cand crap, and this info comes from a BSV shill

https://twitter.com/duceswild557/status/1195427782161051650



What's preev ? "PREEV - Simple Bitcoin Converter"
https://www.bsvdevs.com/index.php/detail/preev-simple-bitcoin-converter
https://preev.pro/

The peer to peer digital currency accounts for 2.1%.

You can watch it live at:
https://bitcoinblocks.live/

[ðºÞæ]

https://sv.coin.dance/blocks

Proof is here. bitcoin SV now averaging bigger blocks the BTC on a daily basis. This explains the recent price surge for BSV. If Bitcoin SV continues increasing block sizes at this growth rate, it will be a very slow death for BTC. BSV price will continue to increase simply because there will be an incentive for miners to mine the most profitable chain.

This comment will be flagged and deleted by dictator moderators on this form.

 

The only reason your comments get deleted is when you post twice in a row or if you spam off-topic nonsense. In this case you only posted once, and while your comment is indeed nonsense it is still not off-topic, so it won't be deleted.

BSV muppets always fail to take into account active addresses, which is a much better metric for estimating the popularity of a coin.

Active addresses

BTC: 537k
ETH: 313k
DASH: 64.6k
LTC: 42.8k
DOGE: 34.45k
BSV: 28.4k
ETC: 18.3k
BCH: 17.2k

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/activeaddresses-bsv.html

Congrats, more people use DOGE on a daily basis than BSV, despite it only having 14.5% the total market cap of your tremendously overpriced coin.

The "payment" aspect for BSV accounts for 2.1% of all usage... just like Satoshi intended... 

Dont forget to include the "Sent from addresses"
Isn’t there someone on the wrong slope?

[Anarcocapitalista]

https://sv.coin.dance/blocks

Proof is here. bitcoin SV now averaging bigger blocks the BTC on a daily basis. This explains the recent price surge for BSV. If Bitcoin SV continues increasing block sizes at this growth rate, it will be a very slow death for BTC. BSV price will continue to increase simply because there will be an incentive for miners to mine the most profitable chain.

This comment will be flagged and deleted by dictator moderators on this form.

 

The only reason your comments get deleted is when you post twice in a row or if you spam off-topic nonsense. In this case you only posted once, and while your comment is indeed nonsense it is still not off-topic, so it won't be deleted.

BSV muppets always fail to take into account active addresses, which is a much better metric for estimating the popularity of a coin.

Active addresses

BTC: 537k
ETH: 313k
DASH: 64.6k
LTC: 42.8k
DOGE: 34.45k
BSV: 28.4k
ETC: 18.3k
BCH: 17.2k

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/activeaddresses-bsv.html

Congrats, more people use DOGE on a daily basis than BSV, despite it only having 14.5% the total market cap of your tremendously overpriced coin.

The "payment" aspect for BSV accounts for 2.1% of all usage... just like Satoshi intended... 

Do you realize any transaction made from preev, weathersv and any other app is also a payment or micro transaction lol?

[hv_]

My advice: Look into the Version 0.1

Set in Stone.

No - there is no Change needed that enables anything new here in protocol level

https://mobile.twitter.com/bitcoinnobody/status/1195451727828271104?p=v


It is all about law enforcments focussed on point - where miners need to alter a single UTXO - correct that and Job done

Guess too easy but anarchos don't like it

When ?

Any time needed and 'global' enforcments come true ( like for Liberty Reserve ..)

Oh - and sooner as too many play dumb IMHO

[BitcoinFX]

My advice: Look into the Version 0.1

Set in Stone.

No - there is no Change needed that enables anything new here in protocol level

... snip ...

*With Sarcasm* ... Not Set in Stone ..., instead consensus based ...

Bitcoin 0.2 released!
- https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/25/#selection-5.11-9.21

Bitcoin 0.3 released!
- https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/168/#selection-9.0-9.21



Not a clue!

...

"... "Bitcoin transactions can be sufficiently irreversible in an hour or two." - Satoshi Nakamoto, November 11, 2008

"Bitcoin is incredibly simple to freeze, seize, and for governments to intercept." - Craig #Faketoshi Wright, November 15, 2019 ..."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1196204375628242944

...

Additional, for the Craig believers and BSV sock puppets ! ...

"Don't build your castle in someone else's sandbox."
- https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1195356640779866112

...

BSV is not Bitcoin and CSW is not Satoshi.

[hv_]

My advice: Look into the Version 0.1

Set in Stone.

No - there is no Change needed that enables anything new here in protocol level

... snip ...

*With Sarcasm* ... Not Set in Stone ..., instead consensus based ...

Bitcoin 0.2 released!
- https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/25/#selection-5.11-9.21

Bitcoin 0.3 released!
- https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/bitcointalk/168/#selection-9.0-9.21



Not a clue!

...

"... "Bitcoin transactions can be sufficiently irreversible in an hour or two." - Satoshi Nakamoto, November 11, 2008

"Bitcoin is incredibly simple to freeze, seize, and for governments to intercept." - Craig #Faketoshi Wright, November 15, 2019 ..."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1196204375628242944

...

Additional, for the Craig believers and BSV sock puppets ! ...

"Don't build your castle in someone else's sandbox."
- https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1195356640779866112

...

BSV is not Bitcoin and CSW is not Satoshi.

0.2.     0.3. ...   all Trollsensus

Segwit is not BitCoin