[ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision (Old Thread)

[Piston Honda]

Some Bitcoin facts
Satoshi did not mention SegWit in Whitepaper
Satoshi did not write any SegWit code
Satoshi never mentioned SegWit on this forum when active or anywhere else
Satoshi has nothing to do with SegWit not his creation and some ugly afterthought
SegWit is some kind of Bitcoin pegged stablecoin, altcoin
....

I don't remember Satoshi ever saying bitcoin should act as a data storage coin, either. So much for "Satoshi's Vision." What a joke.

The only reason Craig decided to pursue that angle was because somebody reminded him there was already a big block experiment that is failing kind of miserably. Now there's two.

BTC - is a native coin of corrupted Bitcointalk forum. Thats why corrupted old-timer nutildah protects BTC

Bitcoinsvtalk.org - IS COMING SOON

Advise how it sounds better? Could it sound better? Bsvtalk.org?

Yep, I'm all for it. Put it on Metanet while you're at it.

Sounds like you're going to be busy for a while, so, adios muchacho.

Stay fart in your swamp further

LOL. What a bizarre afterthought. You should have just left it unedited.

dude it's like a never ending battle to tell these bsv idiots how stupid, useless and reckless this project is.

It's not even a 'battle', it's just hilarious.

I can't wait until they have their own forum.



They will probably claim that it's the original Bitcoin forum as well.



Won't change the fact that ...

CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

they will all be talking to one another only haahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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[BitcoinFX]

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they will all be talking to one another only haahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Au contraire ...

Full circle ...

"Craig Wright - The Bitcoin Alert Key Debunk

Our #Faketoshi came across alert keys recently. In 2018, one of those Satoshi alert keys was used to debunk him.

"I am not CSW. Unlike me, he can't sign with the Bitcoin alert key."

More info here: ... " YOU ARE HERE !  
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1189437099956678657

...

"Craig talked about this in August already, but here he explains his plans.

"The original concept of the alert key in the alert system allowed Bitcoin to have a freezing system. It would allow individual addresses, nodes, and much more to be stopped."

hxxps://craigwright.net/blog/law-regulation/if-gold-turned-to-lead/ "

...

See: Alert system
- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Alert_system

"The function has been retired from the client. People such as Mark Kerpeles had access to it and since the MtGox assets were in the hands of the Japan police it was decided to remove it altogether. Unlike what CSW is trying to say, it had nothing to do with coins."
- https://twitter.com/JinglesBTC/status/1189474943769051136

"Thanks for the info, Jingles. Is it even possible to use it as Craig wants to introduce on BSV? To me, it sounds like impossible as users choose their client, and court orders cannot be globally enforced either."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1189476520764563459

"No, to do what CSW describes would mean something different. This just displays a message in the client app. Giving someone a key to allow freezing of coins goes against everything that Bitcoin is about. Satoshi removed trusted 3rd parties, he didn’t given them power."
- https://twitter.com/JinglesBTC/status/1189483490854633472

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Now wouldn't it be hilarious if CSW put the same alert key system into BSV.

Then folks could send out important notification alerts to BSV nodes!

CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

Prove me wrong !

SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149062.0

Keep up the good work guys!

The  #faketoshi  fraud  TIMELINE
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/mylegacykit.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/ponsdeserres.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/jimmy007forsure.html

A Bitcoin (BTC) OG ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188



"... "Comprehensive information about the Bitcoin Alert System Retirement.

https://bitcoin.org/en/alert/2016-11-01-alert-retirement#updates ..."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1189556234745237504

[BitcoinFX]

German gov is about to get it - btc LN - rekt!


> *German Bundestag: Bitcoin (BTC) is counterfeit money!*

>On Monday , the German Bundestag announced that Bitcoin and other "on-the-market crypto-tokens" are not fulfilling the classical functions of money and are therefore counterfeit money. These classic functions are:
>
>    Exchange and payment
>    Store of value
>    computer unit
>
> Crypto currencies would not be good as a means of exchange and payment since the transaction volume handled with crypto-tokens is very small compared to national currencies such as the euro or the dollar, according to the logic.
>
> As a store of value, the currencies would not be suitable because they were exposed to strong price fluctuations. But above all, the criticism refers to Libra:
>
> "From the point of view of the Federal Government, it must be ensured that stable coins do not establish themselves as an alternative to state currencies and thus call into question the existing monetary system."
>
> Recently, the finance ministry under Olaf Scholz expressed concern that anonymised cryptocurrencies in the Darknet are on the rise. Especially before the Privacy Coin Monero (XMR) was warned. This could develop on the dark sides of the Internet to a "real alternative to Bitcoin". The ministry also fears that so far not anonymous coins could get a greater anonymity built.

https://www.coinkurier.de/deutscher-bundestag-bitcoin-btc-ist-falschgeld/

The very same applies to BSV.

[ðºÞæ]

German gov is about to get it - btc LN - rekt!


> *German Bundestag: Bitcoin (BTC) is counterfeit money!*

>On Monday , the German Bundestag announced that Bitcoin and other "on-the-market crypto-tokens" are not fulfilling the classical functions of money and are therefore counterfeit money. These classic functions are:
>
>    Exchange and payment
>    Store of value
>    computer unit
>
> Crypto currencies would not be good as a means of exchange and payment since the transaction volume handled with crypto-tokens is very small compared to national currencies such as the euro or the dollar, according to the logic.
>
> As a store of value, the currencies would not be suitable because they were exposed to strong price fluctuations. But above all, the criticism refers to Libra:
>
> "From the point of view of the Federal Government, it must be ensured that stable coins do not establish themselves as an alternative to state currencies and thus call into question the existing monetary system."
>
> Recently, the finance ministry under Olaf Scholz expressed concern that anonymised cryptocurrencies in the Darknet are on the rise. Especially before the Privacy Coin Monero (XMR) was warned. This could develop on the dark sides of the Internet to a "real alternative to Bitcoin". The ministry also fears that so far not anonymous coins could get a greater anonymity built.

https://www.coinkurier.de/deutscher-bundestag-bitcoin-btc-ist-falschgeld/

The very same applies to BSV.

BSV immutable data storage/sharing/transmitting plus smart contracts and and and.......

[Bitcoin SV]

Which of them are sounds better:

bitcoinsvtalk.org
bsvtalk.org
originalbitcointalk.org
satoshivisiontalk.org
iamsatoshitalk.org

Please, vote

[BitcoinFX]

Which of them are sounds better:

bitcoinsvtalk.org
bsvtalk.org
originalbitcointalk.org
satoshivisiontalk.org
iamsatoshitalk.org

Please, vote

None of the above.

[bitcoinPsycho]

Which of them are sounds better:

bitcoinsvtalk.org
bsvtalk.org
originalbitcointalk.org
satoshivisiontalk.org
iamsatoshitalk.org

Please, vote

Bsvtalk.org
 is the most honest/accurate

[BitcoinFX]

German gov is about to get it - btc LN - rekt!


> *German Bundestag: Bitcoin (BTC) is counterfeit money!*

>On Monday , the German Bundestag announced that Bitcoin and other "on-the-market crypto-tokens" are not fulfilling the classical functions of money and are therefore counterfeit money. These classic functions are:
>
>    Exchange and payment
>    Store of value
>    computer unit
>
> Crypto currencies would not be good as a means of exchange and payment since the transaction volume handled with crypto-tokens is very small compared to national currencies such as the euro or the dollar, according to the logic.
>
> As a store of value, the currencies would not be suitable because they were exposed to strong price fluctuations. But above all, the criticism refers to Libra:
>
> "From the point of view of the Federal Government, it must be ensured that stable coins do not establish themselves as an alternative to state currencies and thus call into question the existing monetary system."
>
> Recently, the finance ministry under Olaf Scholz expressed concern that anonymised cryptocurrencies in the Darknet are on the rise. Especially before the Privacy Coin Monero (XMR) was warned. This could develop on the dark sides of the Internet to a "real alternative to Bitcoin". The ministry also fears that so far not anonymous coins could get a greater anonymity built.

https://www.coinkurier.de/deutscher-bundestag-bitcoin-btc-ist-falschgeld/

The very same applies to BSV.

BSV immutable data storage/sharing/transmitting plus smart contracts and and and.......

Good luck with that ...

It's temporarily.

Who says? What is stopping someone from filling your blockchain with piles and piles of worthless data, all completely unrelated to financial transactions?

And your favorite Lighting Protocol is a stupidest thing i have ever seen

Nice English skills. Unfortunately, you assume that I like the Lightning Network. Instead of making assumptions, I suggest you create more argumentative statements.I have no problem with increasing the block size.

Just not now, and definitely not like what you're doing and what you are planning.

Nothing is stopping the BSV blockchain from being filled with piles and piles of worthless data, all completely unrelated to financial transactions! Not even price! It is happening right now ...

"Add any file to the BSV blockchain
- smaller than 310MB"
- https://add.bico.media/

"Search Bitcoin SV"
- https://oyo.cash/

"Haichan is an imageboard that runs entirely on the BSV blockchain."
- https://relay.haich.us/about.html *NSFW* *WARNING: Potentially Illegal and Uncensored IMMUTABLE content*

...

Just fitting transactions onto any blockchain is hard enough in respect of transaction throughput.

Anyone could just upload the exact same text, videos, images, viruses, scripts, malware and/or 'illegal' content etc., into every block, if they were that way inclined! This is what Hal Finney meant about SPAM being a very big problem.

Imagine all of this junk in addition to high volume transactions. The BSV blockchain is also already slower to pull data from than most centralized servers and hardly anyone is using it, in comparison!

BSV proponents don't even understand the technological constraints, let alone the legal implications of using, running or storing this. They seem to think governments and big business are going to use BSV. What a joke. Why would they even want to store each others data, let alone a whole load of 'illegal' content and SPAM.

Bitcoin is about financial cryptography and not any of the above.

CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

*Satire*
Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Babe System



- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1188559176777293826

...

Ewww ... *Not Satire*

Child abuse images hidden in crypto-currency blockchain - BSV
- https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47130268

[xtraelv]

Which of them are sounds better:

bitcoinsvtalk.org
bsvtalk.org
originalbitcointalk.org
satoshivisiontalk.org
iamsatoshitalk.org

Please, vote

Bsvtalk.org
 is the most honest/accurate

BStalk.org

Even more honest/accurate

[BitcoinFX]

Which of them are sounds better:

bitcoinsvtalk.org
bsvtalk.org
originalbitcointalk.org
satoshivisiontalk.org
iamsatoshitalk.org

Please, vote

Bsvtalk.org
 is the most honest/accurate

BStalk.org

Even more honest/accurate

pumpkinmantalk .org ?

"Tomorrow...

#thepumpkinmancometh #pumpkinmancraig #halloween #BSV #BitcoinSV"



- https://twitter.com/RealCoinGeek/status/1189528006722805761

...

Not my *Meme* ...

"Make sure that you don't knock on Calvin's door for Halloween  #StaySafe"



- https://twitter.com/CryptoScamHub/status/1186130567420469248

...

Ewww ...

Bitcoin is scam created by darknet pedophiles.

BSV is created by clever man CSW

blah blah blah

taken out of context

Wait, I got confused now, I thouth CSW was the man behind the Bitcoin as he stated it many times, now it turns out that he is a clever darknet pedophile?. I thouth that only Calvin had this "problem"... better rename the coin to DPV then.

BSV parties are not creepy at all....

Here is a link to the actual tweet ...

- https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1105442470396080128

...

- https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/calvin-ayre-faces-backlash-for-young-twerking-cubans/

- https://www.cubaheadlines.com/2019-03-18-p1-photos-and-video-of-young-cubans-dancing-twerking-published-by-canadian-businessman-un

Apparently one of those girls is currently in jail for attending this 'party' having been given a 2 year jail sentence for leaving / entering Havana without a valid 'permit'.

Such nice people.

Herewith, a collection of tweets from Calvin Ayre's official twitter ...

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1105989491062378498

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/973830331727056897

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1097262411999035392

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/992597659121733632

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1050874996938170368

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1068755244153270273

- https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1070206998166282240

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1008881584114753536

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1052605819890671616

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1134270482134573057

- https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1134246061189545985

Ewww ...  

...

"Plotting the death of BTC"

Erm ... 

[Anarcocapitalista]

The lengths people on this thread to defame people in the BSV community really shows fear. Very bullish on BSV, transaction volume now exceeding BTC on a daily basis!!!!

Facts don’t lie..

Sv.coin.dance

Bsv more profitable to mine and transact. Fact.

[actmyname]

The lengths people on this thread to defame people in the BSV community really shows fear. Very bullish on BSV, transaction volume now exceeding BTC on a daily basis!!!!

Facts don’t lie..

Sv.coin.dance

Bsv more profitable to mine and transact. Fact.

https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/mempool-size
For some reason Bitcoin isn't exceeding 4 MB in the average mempool size... https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/mempool-size?timespan=60days&daysAverageString=7
And yet gets more transaction volume than BSV... https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-btc-bsv.html#3m
And yet has more unique input addresses... https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/sentbyaddress-btc-bsv.html#3m
And yet has less wealth inequality... https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/top100cap-btc-bsv.html#3m

[ðºÞæ]

The lengths people on this thread to defame people in the BSV community really shows fear. Very bullish on BSV, transaction volume now exceeding BTC on a daily basis!!!!

Facts don’t lie..

Sv.coin.dance

Bsv more profitable to mine and transact. Fact.

Fear is real, activity in thread in recent time proves that.
No such thing as bad publicity.

[BitcoinFX]

The lengths people on this thread to defame people in the BSV community really shows fear. Very bullish on BSV, transaction volume now exceeding BTC on a daily basis!!!!

Facts don’t lie..

Sv.coin.dance

Bsv more profitable to mine and transact. Fact.

Fear is real, activity in thread in recent time proves that.
No such thing as bad publicity.

Wrong ! No fear here whatsoever.

Simply presenting hard facts to prove that CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

This is the response we are undertaking in regards to BSV continually claiming to be original Bitcoin (BTC).

CSW has provided no proof to the community here or elsewhere, hard evidence exists to the contrary.

The  #faketoshi  fraud  TIMELINE
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/mylegacykit.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/ponsdeserres.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/jimmy007forsure.html

SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149062.0

This will continue until you recognize and acknowledge the above. Look at the despicable actions of the people you are supporting.

By supporting BSV you are complicit in the attempt to 'hijack' the original Bitcoin (BTC) project, are you not?

[Bitcoin SV]

The lengths people on this thread to defame people in the BSV community really shows fear. Very bullish on BSV, transaction volume now exceeding BTC on a daily basis!!!!

Facts don’t lie..

Sv.coin.dance

Bsv more profitable to mine and transact. Fact.

Fear is real, activity in thread in recent time proves that.
No such thing as bad publicity.

That's the way it is

CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
nobody cares your mantra

CSW & Ayre are real men with iron balls unlike you womanlike trolls

[Anarcocapitalista]

The lengths people on this thread to defame people in the BSV community really shows fear. Very bullish on BSV, transaction volume now exceeding BTC on a daily basis!!!!

Facts don’t lie..

Sv.coin.dance

Bsv more profitable to mine and transact. Fact.

Fear is real, activity in thread in recent time proves that.
No such thing as bad publicity.

Wrong ! No fear here whatsoever.

Simply presenting hard facts to prove that CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

This is the response we are undertaking in regards to BSV continually claiming to be original Bitcoin (BTC).

CSW has provided no proof to the community here or elsewhere, hard evidence exists to the contrary.

The  #faketoshi  fraud  TIMELINE
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/mylegacykit.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/ponsdeserres.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/jimmy007forsure.html

SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149062.0

This will continue until you recognize and acknowledge the above. Look at the despicable actions of the people you are supporting.

By supporting BSV you are complicit in the attempt to 'hijack' the original Bitcoin (BTC) project, are you not?

Mate you’ve wasted hours with the same character arguments against Craig that have no relevance to bitcoin Sv. Look at your posts, you’re clearly heavily invested in making sure bitcoin Sv does not succeed. You need better arguments. You are scared.

[jbreher]

The fact that CSW submitted for copyright something that has been in the public domain for years (the bitcoin whitepaper)

Whatever gives you the idea that the Bitcoin white paper is public domain?

Your level of passion here, jbreher, surely deserves some passionate eye rolling too, no?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/02/08/19190292-7528083-image-m-153_1570001194043.jpg

Whatevs, dude or dudette. Fact is that xrtrlaev’s so-called ‘fact’ is unmitigated bullshit. Of course, pretty much nobody in this space understands any aspect of IP law whatsoever, so I guess I should not be surprised.

Incidentally, what value do you think you have added to this branch of the thread?

The fact that CSW submitted for copyright something that has been in the public domain for years (the bitcoin whitepaper)

Whatever gives you the idea that the Bitcoin white paper is public domain?

He didn't say it "is" public domain, he said its been in the public domain, because nobody was too big of an ass to attempt to copyright it until Craig came along.

How convenient for the next public display of ignorance to come so quickly. Copyright is established the instant a work is affixed in tangible form. That copyright exists fully independent if any registration thereof. Absent any explicit delegation of rights to the public at large by its creator, the Bitcoin white paper is not public domain.

[xtraelv]

The lengths people on this thread to defame people in the BSV community really shows fear. Very bullish on BSV, transaction volume now exceeding BTC on a daily basis!!!!

Facts don’t lie..

Sv.coin.dance

Bsv more profitable to mine and transact. Fact.

It is only defamation if it is untrue.

Bitconnect was very profitable at first too.

There is no fear. We are just concerned about the eventual bag holders.

Your complaint is like advertising Microsoft on a Linux forum and then getting offended for getting criticism and ridicule.

How convenient for the next public display of ignorance to come so quickly. Copyright is established the instant a work is affixed in tangible form. That copyright exists fully independent if any registration thereof. Absent any explicit delegation of rights to the public at large by its creator, the Bitcoin white paper is not public domain.

The bitcoin whitepaper was first distributed by Satoshi Nakamoto on the Cypherpunks mailing list. The mailing list has a Cypherpunks anti-License. http://www.cypherspace.org/CPL/

So that is still for the jury to decide.

The intent of the Cypherpunks anti-License (CPL) is to inform users that they are free to use and redistribute the indicated work or any derived or modified work in any manner they choose. Works distributed under the CPL are in the Public Domain.

Cypherpunks of which Satoshi Nakamoto (and later CSW) were members of clearly state:

The enforcement of IP law and anonymity are in direct conflict. To fully enforce IP laws, anonymity would have to be outlawed. Cypherpunks believe this would be a bad thing, because control of information imparts power, and anonymity gives individuals control over disclosure of information about themselves and their actions.

So there are two scenarios:

CSW is not Satoshi Nakamoto in which case he is presenting fraudulent documents and attempting to commit a fraud.

CSW is Satoshi Nakamoto and breached the moral principles of the group of people that directly assisted him with the creation of bitcoin.
Used their knowledge, skills and time in the creation of something that he later would try to claim IP rights to contrary to the groups goals. Resulting in a feeling of exploitation and huge betrayal.

Your choice. Which do you pick ?

[BitcoinFX]

Please help! Theymos! Close this troll's topic.

BSV - is not scam

*Satire*

Please help! Satoshi! Close this troll's topic.

...

BSV - is scam

*More Satire*
Uganda knuckles vs Ugandan knuckles
- https://youtu.be/dep1MrobOq4

#CraigIsNotSatoshi

[xtraelv]

Mate you’ve wasted hours with the same character arguments against Craig that have no relevance to bitcoin Sv. Look at your posts, you’re clearly heavily invested in making sure bitcoin Sv does not succeed. You need better arguments. You are scared.

My guess is that as bitcointalk user 30. One of the first bitcoin exchange operators and someone who actually spoke to the real Satoshi Nakamoto when bitcoin was in its very early stages that BitcoinFX is in a unique position to judge someone claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

Craig has made lots of claims about BSV and about Bitcoin. His character and overall conduct is very relevant to the discussion.

It is always called FUD right up until things go wrong. Then it becomes known as "prior warnings".