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October 29, 2019, 11:26:07 PM
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While I am unsure on the matter, I think nChain has the largest portfolio of patents in the crypto currency and Blockchain space. Not knowing your definition of "patent troll" -- not exactly a dictionary term -- I really have no way to respond to your question.



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A patent troll uses patents as legal weapons, instead of actually creating any new products or coming up with new ideas. Instead, trolls are in the business of litigation (or even just threatening litigation). They often buy up patents cheaply from companies down on their luck who are looking to monetize what resources they have left, such as patents. Unfortunately, the Patent Office has a habit of issuing patents for ideas that are neither new nor revolutionary, and these patents can be very broad, covering everyday or commonsense types of computing – things that should never have been patented in the first place.

Source: https://www.eff.org/issues/resources-patent-troll-victims

Great. By that definition, neither nChain nor CSW are patent trolls.

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October 29, 2019, 11:42:58 PM
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While I am unsure on the matter, I think nChain has the largest portfolio of patents in the crypto currency and Blockchain space. Not knowing your definition of "patent troll" -- not exactly a dictionary term -- I really have no way to respond to your question.



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A patent troll uses patents as legal weapons, instead of actually creating any new products or coming up with new ideas. Instead, trolls are in the business of litigation (or even just threatening litigation). They often buy up patents cheaply from companies down on their luck who are looking to monetize what resources they have left, such as patents. Unfortunately, the Patent Office has a habit of issuing patents for ideas that are neither new nor revolutionary, and these patents can be very broad, covering everyday or commonsense types of computing – things that should never have been patented in the first place.

Source: https://www.eff.org/issues/resources-patent-troll-victims

Great. By that definition, neither nChain nor CSW are patent trolls.

I'm still on the fence about that.

The fact that CSW submitted for copyright something that has been in the public domain for years (the bitcoin whitepaper)
(I realize there is a difference between copyright and patents -  but I am discussing the conduct rather than the legal terminology)





So copyrighting something that is public domain, taking out over a thousand patents, threatening existing competition....

While it may not be a complete picture or I may have misinterpreted it.  It certainly has the appearance of heading the way of a patent troll.



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October 30, 2019, 12:37:56 AM
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While I am unsure on the matter, I think nChain has the largest portfolio of patents in the crypto currency and Blockchain space. Not knowing your definition of "patent troll" -- not exactly a dictionary term -- I really have no way to respond to your question.



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A patent troll uses patents as legal weapons, instead of actually creating any new products or coming up with new ideas. Instead, trolls are in the business of litigation (or even just threatening litigation). They often buy up patents cheaply from companies down on their luck who are looking to monetize what resources they have left, such as patents. Unfortunately, the Patent Office has a habit of issuing patents for ideas that are neither new nor revolutionary, and these patents can be very broad, covering everyday or commonsense types of computing – things that should never have been patented in the first place.

Source: https://www.eff.org/issues/resources-patent-troll-victims

Great. By that definition, neither nChain nor CSW are patent trolls.

I'm still on the fence about that.

The fact that CSW submitted for copyright something that has been in the public domain for years (the bitcoin whitepaper)
(I realize there is a difference between copyright and patents -  but I am discussing the conduct rather than the legal terminology)





So copyrighting something that is public domain, taking out over a thousand patents, threatening existing competition....

While it may not be a complete picture or I may have misinterpreted it.  It certainly has the appearance of heading the way of a patent troll.




"Craig Wright - On Patents" ...
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1172837447094407168

"Craig Wright - Patent Wars" ...
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1176419468370726912

"Craig Wright - On plagiarism" ...
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1172153919314845696

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October 30, 2019, 04:18:43 AM
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It is interesting that CSW makes accusations that are either untrue or out of context.





Source: https://medium.com/@craig_10243/patent-wars-24929b73f381

In order to have privacy for genuine users the unfortunate side effect is that those that use it for illegitimate use also obtain that privacy.

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October 30, 2019, 04:57:02 AM
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Bitcoin is about PoW and economics.

And its the best and working on chain system for electronic cash.

It is the only true innovation over last 20 years

Segshit is not

Yes it's about POW.

Newbies, there's only one way to determine Bitcoin, https://fork.lol/pow/work

But anyone can call their shitcoin "Bitcoin", it doesn't mean it's actually Bitcoin.

Plus I don't know what kind of disease I'll catch for going in here. I got lost looking for Decred's ANN. Haha.


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October 30, 2019, 05:26:03 AM
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The fact that CSW submitted for copyright something that has been in the public domain for years (the bitcoin whitepaper)

Whatever gives you the idea that the Bitcoin white paper is public domain?

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October 30, 2019, 05:58:13 AM
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The fact that CSW submitted for copyright something that has been in the public domain for years (the bitcoin whitepaper)

Whatever gives you the idea that the Bitcoin white paper is public domain?

Your level of passion here, jbreher, surely deserves some passionate eye rolling too, no?


Put BTC here: 35EVP8EePt8dyvKHaB7bXaRmKLm22YgRCA

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October 30, 2019, 06:52:00 AM
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The fact that CSW submitted for copyright something that has been in the public domain for years (the bitcoin whitepaper)

Whatever gives you the idea that the Bitcoin white paper is public domain?

He didn't say it "is" public domain, he said its been in the public domain, because nobody was too big of an ass to attempt to copyright it until Craig came along.

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Is Craig Wright the original author of “Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System?” Maybe. Maybe not. Whoever it is, I congratulate that person (or people) with creating such a brilliant and influential document. It truly is amazing. And I thank “Satoshi” for releasing it in the public domain. Why this person opted to remain anonymous (or at least out of the public eye, if “Satoshi Nakamoto” is a real name) is none of my (or really anyone else’s) business. In doing so, however, the author of the white paper made it very clear that they wished to disclaim ownership of the idea behind Bitcoin.

https://medium.com/valuetokenized/kill-satoshi-f2d993232561

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Grant Gulovsen is a licensed U.S.-based intellectual property attorney whose practice focuses on advising individuals and businesses in the blockchain and cryptocurrency space.

Are you actually arguing that Craig isn't a massive piece of shit after pulling this stunt?

https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-again-claims-authorship-of-bitcoin-white-paper

Satoshi was anti-centralization, anti-patent, anti-closed system. Then you have this cocky dufus claiming to be Satoshi, trying to convince the world that he's actually pro-centralization, pro-patent, pro-closed system. How dumb do you have to be to believe this arrogant dope for one second?

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October 30, 2019, 07:34:59 AM
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Jimmy answers a lot of patent / IP FAQ here

https://thvidoes.com/video-9857412160667393447367

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He didn't say it "is" public domain, he said its been in the public domain, because nobody was too big of an ass to attempt to copyright it until Craig came along.

Correct. It is in the public domain and has been widely distributed.

Craig is not the only copyright claimant either. One applicant is claiming copyright twice.

https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=Bitcoin%3A+A+Peer-to-Peer+Electronic+Cash+System.&Search_Code=TALL&PID=i-DenTaQ3xvpRNBNlGGoCYj6Rrggc&SEQ=20191030033213&CNT=25&HIST=1






Satoshi into lawn care ?








This is where it also gets interesting because:

Section 102 (b) of the copyright code states:
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October 30, 2019, 08:07:18 AM
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...........

Plus I don't know what kind of disease I'll catch for going in here. I got lost looking for Decred's ANN. Haha.


To late, the disease got you here, cure no, deal with it, the thread will accommodate your bit of PoW

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October 30, 2019, 10:39:43 AM
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Sigmapool started mining BSV - the Original Satoshi Bicoin -

yes - it's Bitcoin

https://coingeek.com/sigmapool-is-up-and-mining-on-bitcoin-sv/


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...........

Plus I don't know what kind of disease I'll catch for going in here. I got lost looking for Decred's ANN. Haha.


To late, the disease got you here, cure no, deal with it, the thread will accommodate your bit of PoW

...

There is an awful lot of craig wright footage out there,

It really needs this treatment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5nyQmaq4k4

The ignorant people he's hitting now aren't going to be convinced by reason...

CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

Why are you even supporting BSV and CSW ? Are you being paid to support this ?

Either your dishonest or you don't understand or acknowledge historical facts in regards to Bitcoin (BTC).

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blah blah blah
You know what? You guys are freaks

Find a job nutildah. And we have a job already (At nChain)


Sad, but true. Bitcointalk scammers and trolls like nutildah turned Bitcoin into a scam. Soon the governments will limit and over-regulates this scamsih BTC.

Don't listen to anyone. Only BSV - is Original Bitcoin now. Satoshi Vision. We are friends with the authorities

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...........

Plus I don't know what kind of disease I'll catch for going in here. I got lost looking for Decred's ANN. Haha.


To late, the disease got you here, cure no, deal with it, the thread will accommodate your bit of PoW

...

There is an awful lot of craig wright footage out there,

It really needs this treatment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5nyQmaq4k4

The ignorant people he's hitting now aren't going to be convinced by reason...

CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

Why are you even supporting BSV and CSW ? Are you being paid to support this ?

Either your dishonest or you don't understand or acknowledge historical facts in regards to Bitcoin (BTC).

Some Bitcoin facts
Satoshi did not mention SegWit in Whitepaper
Satoshi did not write any SegWit code
Satoshi never mentioned SegWit on this forum when active or anywhere else
Satoshi has nothing to do with SegWit not his creation and some ugly afterthought
SegWit is some kind of Bitcoin pegged stablecoin, altcoin
....

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October 30, 2019, 12:18:31 PM
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BTC - is a native coin of corrupted Bitcointalk forum. Thats why corrupted old-timer nutildah protects BTC

Bitcoinsvtalk.org - IS COMING SOON

Advise how it sounds better? Could it sound better? Bsvtalk.org?

Stay fart in your swamp further

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Some Bitcoin facts
Satoshi did not mention SegWit in Whitepaper
Satoshi did not write any SegWit code
Satoshi never mentioned SegWit on this forum when active or anywhere else
Satoshi has nothing to do with SegWit not his creation and some ugly afterthought
SegWit is some kind of Bitcoin pegged stablecoin, altcoin
....

I don't remember Satoshi ever saying bitcoin should act as a data storage coin, either. So much for "Satoshi's Vision." What a joke.

The only reason Craig decided to pursue that angle was because somebody reminded him there was already a big block experiment that is failing kind of miserably. Now there's two.

BTC - is a native coin of corrupted Bitcointalk forum. Thats why corrupted old-timer nutildah protects BTC

Bitcoinsvtalk.org - IS COMING SOON

Advise how it sounds better? Could it sound better? Bsvtalk.org?

Yep, I'm all for it. Put it on Metanet while you're at it.

Sounds like you're going to be busy for a while, so, adios muchacho.

Stay fart in your swamp further

LOL. What a bizarre afterthought. You should have just left it unedited.

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October 30, 2019, 12:58:15 PM
Last edit: October 30, 2019, 01:11:07 PM by hv_
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German gov is about to get it - btc LN - rekt!


> *German Bundestag: Bitcoin (BTC) is counterfeit money!*

>On Monday , the German Bundestag announced that Bitcoin and other "on-the-market crypto-tokens" are not fulfilling the classical functions of money and are therefore counterfeit money. These classic functions are:
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>    Exchange and payment
>    Store of value
>    computer unit
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> Crypto currencies would not be good as a means of exchange and payment since the transaction volume handled with crypto-tokens is very small compared to national currencies such as the euro or the dollar, according to the logic.
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> As a store of value, the currencies would not be suitable because they were exposed to strong price fluctuations. But above all, the criticism refers to Libra:
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> "From the point of view of the Federal Government, it must be ensured that stable coins do not establish themselves as an alternative to state currencies and thus call into question the existing monetary system."
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> Recently, the finance ministry under Olaf Scholz expressed concern that anonymised cryptocurrencies in the Darknet are on the rise. Especially before the Privacy Coin Monero (XMR) was warned. This could develop on the dark sides of the Internet to a "real alternative to Bitcoin". The ministry also fears that so far not anonymous coins could get a greater anonymity built.

https://www.coinkurier.de/deutscher-bundestag-bitcoin-btc-ist-falschgeld/

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October 30, 2019, 01:02:44 PM
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Some Bitcoin facts
Satoshi did not mention SegWit in Whitepaper
Satoshi did not write any SegWit code
Satoshi never mentioned SegWit on this forum when active or anywhere else
Satoshi has nothing to do with SegWit not his creation and some ugly afterthought
SegWit is some kind of Bitcoin pegged stablecoin, altcoin
....

I don't remember Satoshi ever saying bitcoin should act as a data storage coin, either. So much for "Satoshi's Vision." What a joke.

The only reason Craig decided to pursue that angle was because somebody reminded him there was already a big block experiment that is failing kind of miserably. Now there's two.

BTC - is a native coin of corrupted Bitcointalk forum. Thats why corrupted old-timer nutildah protects BTC

Bitcoinsvtalk.org - IS COMING SOON

Advise how it sounds better? Could it sound better? Bsvtalk.org?

Yep, I'm all for it. Put it on Metanet while you're at it.

Sounds like you're going to be busy for a while, so, adios muchacho.

Stay fart in your swamp further

LOL. What a bizarre afterthought. You should have just left it unedited.

dude it's like a never ending battle to tell these bsv idiots how stupid, useless and reckless this project is.

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October 30, 2019, 01:33:12 PM
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Some Bitcoin facts
Satoshi did not mention SegWit in Whitepaper
Satoshi did not write any SegWit code
Satoshi never mentioned SegWit on this forum when active or anywhere else
Satoshi has nothing to do with SegWit not his creation and some ugly afterthought
SegWit is some kind of Bitcoin pegged stablecoin, altcoin
....

I don't remember Satoshi ever saying bitcoin should act as a data storage coin, either. So much for "Satoshi's Vision." What a joke.

The only reason Craig decided to pursue that angle was because somebody reminded him there was already a big block experiment that is failing kind of miserably. Now there's two.

BTC - is a native coin of corrupted Bitcointalk forum. Thats why corrupted old-timer nutildah protects BTC

Bitcoinsvtalk.org - IS COMING SOON

Advise how it sounds better? Could it sound better? Bsvtalk.org?

Yep, I'm all for it. Put it on Metanet while you're at it.

Sounds like you're going to be busy for a while, so, adios muchacho.

Stay fart in your swamp further

LOL. What a bizarre afterthought. You should have just left it unedited.

dude it's like a never ending battle to tell these bsv idiots how stupid, useless and reckless this project is.

It's not even a 'battle', it's just hilarious.

I can't wait until they have their own forum.

Grin

They will probably claim that it's the original Bitcoin forum as well.

Cheesy

Won't change the fact that ...

CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

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