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CRAIG WRIGHT IS CAUGHT MAKING UP BLATANT LIES AGAIN.

HOW MUCH OF A FUCKING IDIOT DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO CONTINUE DEFENDING HIS DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR?

EITHER YOU ARE BRAIN DEAD OR YOU ARE IN ON THE SCAM!!!


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October 27, 2019, 02:34:16 AM
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Bitcoin is scam created by darknet pedophiles.
You can say that again but we both know you're not telling the truth but trying to fool some naive crypto users and investors who aren't aware of the BSV team imposter situation.
I have a question for you if bitcoin is a scam created by the darknet as you said. Why did Craig claim to be bitcoin creator and also use the word "Bitcoin Satoshi vision" to inherit the legacy of something you said to be scam?

This is a great point. If Craig had launched his coin (it was never meant to be its own coin BTW, it was meant to be Bitcoin Cash -- they just lost the hash war for the BCH ticker) under a different name that didn't have the word "Bitcoin" in it, I think it would have been a lot less controversial. Nobody in the Bitcoin community would have minded.

But he didn't do this. Instead, he pursued the exact same tactics that BCH uses against BTC, with the added lie that he is Satoshi, and now its a sliver of BCH, which is a sliver of BTC. He should have learned from BCH's mistakes instead of doubling down on them.

This is an excellent point, what he should have done is launched his own coin and maybe he wouldn't be the laughing stock he is now.

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October 27, 2019, 07:52:27 AM
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THEYMOS HELP! CLOSE THIS TROLL'S TOPIC! LOOK WHAT ARE THEY DOING

Quickly, the only coin which can scale, we cant have that, Hell, No.


Sayonara BTC was nice knowing you, but things to do and places to go.
Next one Ethereum another sitting lame duck.

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October 27, 2019, 08:04:30 AM
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THEYMOS HELP! CLOSE THIS TROLL'S TOPIC! LOOK WHAT ARE THEY DOING

Quickly, the only coin which can scale, we cant have that, Hell, No.

I think he was referencing another post. Its this thing called "sarcasm," which I know is an intellectual subtlety that goes undetected by BSV muppets.



Sayonara BTC was nice knowing you, but things to do and places to go.
Next one Ethereum another sitting lame duck.

Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.



https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/activeaddresses-btc-eth-bch-bsv.html#6m

Tell Craig he should have been researching how to imitate organic growth, not just single metrics that can be easily faked.





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October 27, 2019, 08:27:44 AM
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Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.
What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.

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October 27, 2019, 08:58:06 AM
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Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.
What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.


Define SPAM, especially on BitCoin where it costs fees to send txs.

I ll give u a hint

How about productive network capacity demonstration or real use.

Spam happens on free internet, metanet will fix all that



THEYMOS HELP! CLOSE THIS TROLL'S TOPIC! LOOK WHAT ARE THEY DOING

Quickly, the only coin which can scale, we cant have that, Hell, No.


Sayonara BTC was nice knowing you, but things to do and places to go.
Next one Ethereum another sitting lame duck.

Yes. The only use case for lame ducks I know is:

Hodle it for a while and eat it, Peking style

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October 27, 2019, 09:08:15 AM
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Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.
What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.


Define SPAM, especially on BitCoin where it costs fees to send txs.

I ll give u a hint

How about productive network capacity demonstration or real use.

Spam happens on free internet, metanet will fix all that
You've been here long enough to not be so clueless.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Spam_transactions

The network was being spammed to inflate the transactions in order to attempt to justify increasing the block size. And yes, it costs money and they were willing to do that. When they didn't get their way, miraculously they started bitcoin cash and the spam on bitcoin went away. Go figure.

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October 27, 2019, 09:17:41 AM
Last edit: October 27, 2019, 04:04:33 PM by mprep
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Miners are running the show, the backbone, the creation of blocks, the verification of everything

If they don't do all such, they might get orphaned and risk losing chunks of money or even entire long term investments.

It is redicules to believe some reconciliation with thick clients (slow nodes) on RasPI piss would do anything good

Watch this

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZeroNoncense/status/1188187298652930049?s=20



Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.
What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.


Define SPAM, especially on BitCoin where it costs fees to send txs.

I ll give u a hint

How about productive network capacity demonstration or real use.

Spam happens on free internet, metanet will fix all that
You've been here long enough to not be so clueless.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Spam_transactions

The network was being spammed to inflate the transactions in order to attempt to justify increasing the block size. And yes, it costs money and they were willing to do that. When they didn't get their way, miraculously they started bitcoin cash and the spam on bitcoin went away. Go figure.


No, not spam again. Rather expensive pointing out / voting for having enough exzess capacity that is needed for exponential growing social networks.

Yes, I m long enough here to get that

Learn, ppl only change things for the good after they got hurt - or better, by figuring out where is better incentives

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October 27, 2019, 10:48:27 AM
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Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.
What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.


Define SPAM, especially on BitCoin where it costs fees to send txs.

I ll give u a hint

How about productive network capacity demonstration or real use.

Spam happens on free internet, metanet will fix all that
You've been here long enough to not be so clueless.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Spam_transactions

The network was being spammed to inflate the transactions in order to attempt to justify increasing the block size. And yes, it costs money and they were willing to do that. When they didn't get their way, miraculously they started bitcoin cash and the spam on bitcoin went away. Go figure.


No, not spam again. Rather expensive pointing out / voting for having enough exzess capacity that is needed for exponential growing social networks.

Yes, I m long enough here to get that

Learn, ppl only change things for the good after they got hurt - or better, by figuring out where is better incentives
"We can phase in a change later if we get closer to needing it."

"A higher limit can be phased in once we have actual use closer to the limit and make sure it’s working OK."

"The current threshold is 200KB per block, or about 1000 transactions per block.  I think it should be lowered to 50KB per block.  That would still be more than 100 times the average transactions per block.

The threshold can easily be changed in the future.  We can decide to increase it when the time comes.  It's a good idea to keep it lower as a circuit breaker and increase it as needed."


That's what Satoshi himself had to say about block sizes and "spam". Looks to me like he was more in favor of incremental changes as opposed to just opening it all up. So neither Bitcoin Cash or SV seem to have followed that direction. Neither has Bitcoin to be frank. But SV claiming it's the "original vision" is just laughable.

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October 27, 2019, 01:18:30 PM
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After Google announced the domination of quantum computers overtaking the computing power of supercomputers, the crypto-currency market fell sharply.... This would be due to the logic that quantum computers can penetrate the blockchain's security. If the extremely fast operating speed of the quantum computer is used, it is possible to manipulate the book through the blockchain consensus algorithm in an instant. However, there are many perspectives that the problem will have little impact on the market. This is an analysis that will take a long time to commercialize the quantum computer, which is the first step. In addition, there is an interpretation that the assumption that the encryption of the block chain is broken does not ignore all the financial cryptosystems on the planet. In addition, as quantum computers develop, block chain technology will continue to develop.

How can BSV protect itself?

XBT / BTC are not same of original source code set in stone only by Satoshi Nakamoto check here https://github.com/bitcoin and compare with https://github.com/bitcoin-sv You will see the facts, what became technically XBT / BTC modified because implemented by Core and named Bitcoin is very far from the original. You will notice that the BSV code is in conformity with Satoshi Nakamoto's masterpiece thanks to nChain which cleaned the code of the successive incrementations (SegWit and others) that Core had imposed by voice of community BIP against what Satoshi has created. I'm convinced that BitcoinSV (BSV) is the best technological opportunity of capacity for use and stable build on original Bitcoin protocol.
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After Google announced the domination of quantum computers overtaking the computing power of supercomputers, the crypto-currency market fell sharply.... This would be due to the logic that quantum computers can penetrate the blockchain's security. If the extremely fast operating speed of the quantum computer is used, it is possible to manipulate the book through the blockchain consensus algorithm in an instant. However, there are many perspectives that the problem will have little impact on the market. This is an analysis that will take a long time to commercialize the quantum computer, which is the first step. In addition, there is an interpretation that the assumption that the encryption of the block chain is broken does not ignore all the financial cryptosystems on the planet. In addition, as quantum computers develop, block chain technology will continue to develop.

How can BSV protect itself?

pretty sure Craig Wright will come up with some far fetched theory that he is the inventor of quantum computing and that he made his shitcoin quantum safe already. Why do you even care? You cunts are so brainwashed that you believe any bullshit that he feeds bsv cult members anyway.

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October 27, 2019, 01:33:14 PM
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After Google announced the domination of quantum computers overtaking the computing power of supercomputers, the crypto-currency market fell sharply.... This would be due to the logic that quantum computers can penetrate the blockchain's security. If the extremely fast operating speed of the quantum computer is used, it is possible to manipulate the book through the blockchain consensus algorithm in an instant. However, there are many perspectives that the problem will have little impact on the market. This is an analysis that will take a long time to commercialize the quantum computer, which is the first step. In addition, there is an interpretation that the assumption that the encryption of the block chain is broken does not ignore all the financial cryptosystems on the planet. In addition, as quantum computers develop, block chain technology will continue to develop.

How can BSV protect itself?

pretty sure Craig Wright will come up with some far fetched theory that he is the inventor of quantum computing and that he made his shitcoin quantum safe already. Why do you even care? You cunts are so brainwashed that you believe any bullshit that he feeds bsv cult members anyway.

I swear it looks like he just copy/pastes some random text about bitcoin from the internet and text spins it, but I can't prove it (yet). Most of his posts (like several other now-banned profiles that used to comment here) are just these out-of-context newsbite essays, with something about BSV tacked on the end of it.





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I swear it looks like he just copy/pastes some random text about bitcoin from the internet and text spins it, but I can't prove it (yet). Most of his posts (like several other now-banned profiles that used to comment here) are just these out-of-context newsbite essays, with something about BSV tacked on the end of it.
It's more like he takes threads like this and crafts his own "version".




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October 27, 2019, 02:46:52 PM
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Copy / past !!!??
Not doing yourself any favors when it comes to proving you typed the previous paragraph, especially considering the complex syntax in the penultimate sentence prior to your question.

Do you have a problem with me writing here ?
Only you and your friends are allowed to write here? You make the law of underwear like at home ?
How come you add a space before your question marks here, yet you don't do the same in your question about BSV protecting itself?

After Google announced the domination of quantum computers overtaking the computing power of supercomputers, the crypto-currency market fell sharply.... This would be due to the logic that quantum computers can penetrate the blockchain's security. If the extremely fast operating speed of the quantum computer is used, it is possible to manipulate the book through the blockchain consensus algorithm in an instant. However, there are many perspectives that the problem will have little impact on the market. This is an analysis that will take a long time to commercialize the quantum computer, which is the first step. In addition, there is an interpretation that the assumption that the encryption of the block chain is broken does not ignore all the financial cryptosystems on the planet. In addition, as quantum computers develop, block chain technology will continue to develop.

How can BSV protect itself?
Original paragraph for reference.

By the way... can you tell me what you meant by "book" in the following fragment?
"it is possible to manipulate the book through the blockchain consensus algorithm in an instant"

What book?

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October 27, 2019, 02:55:20 PM
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Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.
What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.


Define SPAM, especially on BitCoin where it costs fees to send txs.

I ll give u a hint

How about productive network capacity demonstration or real use.

Spam happens on free internet, metanet will fix all that
You've been here long enough to not be so clueless.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Spam_transactions

The network was being spammed to inflate the transactions in order to attempt to justify increasing the block size. And yes, it costs money and they were willing to do that. When they didn't get their way, miraculously they started bitcoin cash and the spam on bitcoin went away. Go figure.


No, not spam again. Rather expensive pointing out / voting for having enough exzess capacity that is needed for exponential growing social networks.

Yes, I m long enough here to get that

Learn, ppl only change things for the good after they got hurt - or better, by figuring out where is better incentives
"We can phase in a change later if we get closer to needing it."

"A higher limit can be phased in once we have actual use closer to the limit and make sure it’s working OK."

"The current threshold is 200KB per block, or about 1000 transactions per block.  I think it should be lowered to 50KB per block.  That would still be more than 100 times the average transactions per block.

The threshold can easily be changed in the future.  We can decide to increase it when the time comes.  It's a good idea to keep it lower as a circuit breaker and increase it as needed."


That's what Satoshi himself had to say about block sizes and "spam". Looks to me like he was more in favor of incremental changes as opposed to just opening it all up. So neither Bitcoin Cash or SV seem to have followed that direction. Neither has Bitcoin to be frank. But SV claiming it's the "original vision" is just laughable.

Ugg, how much was the costs of fees sending a txs those early times?

Ok, u get it now, for 0 costs - yes u need spam protection.

The rest is a no brainer

But good you had sth to laugh about, it may free up thinking

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October 27, 2019, 04:39:45 PM
Last edit: October 27, 2019, 04:59:42 PM by Phinnaeus Gage
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THEYMOS HELP! CLOSE THIS TROLL'S TOPIC! LOOK WHAT ARE THEY DOING

Quickly, the only coin which can scale, we cant have that, Hell, No.

I think he was referencing another post. Its this thing called "sarcasm," which I know is an intellectual subtlety that goes undetected by BSV muppets.



Sayonara BTC was nice knowing you, but things to do and places to go.
Next one Ethereum another sitting lame duck.

Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.



https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/activeaddresses-btc-eth-bch-bsv.html#6m

Tell Craig he should have been researching how to imitate organic growth, not just single metrics that can be easily faked.

I have"intellectual subtlety" down to a science ...


Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.
What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.


Define SPAM, especially on BitCoin where it costs fees to send txs.

I ll give u a hint

How about productive network capacity demonstration or real use.

Spam happens on free internet, metanet will fix all that



THEYMOS HELP! CLOSE THIS TROLL'S TOPIC! LOOK WHAT ARE THEY DOING

Quickly, the only coin which can scale, we cant have that, Hell, No.


Sayonara BTC was nice knowing you, but things to do and places to go.
Next one Ethereum another sitting lame duck.

Yes. The only use case for lame ducks I know is:

Hodle it for a while and eat it, Peking style


 Grin

I see what you did there (note the Bitcoin orange sauce) ...


I swear it looks like he just copy/pastes some random text about bitcoin from the internet and text spins it, but I can't prove it (yet). Most of his posts (like several other now-banned profiles that used to comment here) are just these out-of-context newsbite essays, with something about BSV tacked on the end of it.
It's more like he takes threads like this and crafts his own "version".





Nice catch!

Why do you absolutely want me to leave this place and go elsewhere? Answer me directly, we will waste less time.

Your organization has representatives? who are they (name)?

sorry I dont respond to people with offensive tone, have a great day sir

Where is my offense as a hypotetic shareholdery i ask you a simple legal question for a guarantee to know a name to whom my business consensus will provide a consistent portfolio and you write to me "i offend you"?

Now it's going to be really offensive to compare with the original request. This way you may compare with sudden consistency. Is it a communication error in your area of evolution because you are not qualified or are you really stupid or is it congenital?

Dude does due diligence regarding the above and other cryptos but stands unwavering when it comes to BSV. Madness?
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October 27, 2019, 05:53:34 PM
Last edit: October 28, 2019, 02:04:11 AM by Do_zzze
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Copy / past !!!??
Not doing yourself any favors when it comes to proving you typed the previous paragraph, especially considering the complex syntax in the penultimate sentence prior to your question.

Do you have a problem with me writing here ?
Only you and your friends are allowed to write here? You make the law of underwear like at home ?
How come you add a space before your question marks here, yet you don't do the same in your question about BSV protecting itself?

After Google announced the domination of quantum computers overtaking the computing power of supercomputers, the crypto-currency market fell sharply.... This would be due to the logic that quantum computers can penetrate the blockchain's security. If the extremely fast operating speed of the quantum computer is used, it is possible to manipulate the book through the blockchain consensus algorithm in an instant. However, there are many perspectives that the problem will have little impact on the market. This is an analysis that will take a long time to commercialize the quantum computer, which is the first step. In addition, there is an interpretation that the assumption that the encryption of the block chain is broken does not ignore all the financial cryptosystems on the planet. In addition, as quantum computers develop, block chain technology will continue to develop.

How can BSV protect itself?
Original paragraph for reference.

By the way... can you tell me what you meant by "book" in the following fragment?
"it is possible to manipulate the book through the blockchain consensus algorithm in an instant"

What book?


Hey Papi, I write in my mother tongue and translated on Internet, syntax is reported, not everyone writes English fluently in the world that's how it is. If I make a space more or less between my words then am I a Martian for you, okay.


XBT / BTC are not same of original source code set in stone only by Satoshi Nakamoto check here https://github.com/bitcoin and compare with https://github.com/bitcoin-sv You will see the facts, what became technically XBT / BTC modified because implemented by Core and named Bitcoin is very far from the original. You will notice that the BSV code is in conformity with Satoshi Nakamoto's masterpiece thanks to nChain which cleaned the code of the successive incrementations (SegWit and others) that Core had imposed by voice of community BIP against what Satoshi has created. I'm convinced that BitcoinSV (BSV) is the best technological opportunity of capacity for use and stable build on original Bitcoin protocol.
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New app on bsv

Thx Jimmy  for efforts

https://mobile.twitter.com/JimmyWinMedia/status/1188530397921103873

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Miners are running the show, the backbone, the creation of blocks, the verification of everything

If they don't do all such, they might get orphaned and risk losing chunks of money or even entire long term investments.

It is redicules to believe some reconciliation with thick clients (slow nodes) on RasPI piss would do anything good

Watch this

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZeroNoncense/status/1188187298652930049?s=20



Too bad that almost all BSV transactions are being made by the same handful of addresses.
What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.


Define SPAM, especially on BitCoin where it costs fees to send txs.

I ll give u a hint

How about productive network capacity demonstration or real use.

Spam happens on free internet, metanet will fix all that
You've been here long enough to not be so clueless.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Spam_transactions

The network was being spammed to inflate the transactions in order to attempt to justify increasing the block size. And yes, it costs money and they were willing to do that. When they didn't get their way, miraculously they started bitcoin cash and the spam on bitcoin went away. Go figure.


No, not spam again. Rather expensive pointing out / voting for having enough exzess capacity that is needed for exponential growing social networks.

Yes, I m long enough here to get that

Learn, ppl only change things for the good after they got hurt - or better, by figuring out where is better incentives

"... "Information wants to be free" is an expression that means all people should be able to access information freely. ..."

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_wants_to_be_free

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HINT: Freedom of speech and freedom of expression becomes unfree when/if it has to be paid for, as per. the entire BSV model.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

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CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

This thread utilizing self-moderation or twetch users having to effectively pay for content which is already freely available elsewhere, for example.

BSV doesn't solve any real world problems, it creates problems.

BSV is fascism.

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