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November 07, 2019, 06:46:32 AM
Last edit: November 07, 2019, 06:59:19 AM by hv_
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Burning curiosity: why tack on all the extra stuff onto the chain?

Is it supposed to be a use case or a monetary transfer protocol?
Before you ask about any false dichotomy, consider why merging the two would be better than having just two independent systems.

Sure, why should you be able to 'post' anything for free ? Isn't that one of the Major flaws of the Internet we know? (> Spam, fake , trolling ,...)

If you can attach value ( yes - also micro-values) for sending and receiving Content - we agree this Content gets a new Quality and by pay for publishing  it / storing it (not fully on-chain - depends ...)
and using it (paywall, tipping = liking) all the Internet activites will have real monetary value - this is how e-comerce will be properly enabled and distributed globally and ppl can earn money for e-work and trade.

All via the same ledger - minimzed any frictions to trade / interact P2P

So e-money   / e-cash has real use

So Bitcoin was designed to do that - compliant with any law on the planet / Transparency of BitCoin is a Feature that ENABLES trust. Annonymous shit never did


Just new to read about here: https://coingeek.com/the-origins-of-bitcoin-satoshis-vision/

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November 08, 2019, 02:10:54 PM
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What ?  Cheesy

CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

Did you really believe that this is Satoshi, trolls?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Still waiting proofs

"Since early 2015 Craig Wright has been publicly touting himself as the creator of Bitcoin.

Nearly 5 years on and NOT ONE SINGLE piece of credible evidence or public proof has been provided. Nothing, nada, zilch.

Those that still believe, ask yourself why do you believe.."

- https://twitter.com/jimmy007forsure/status/1191269045531602944

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Not *Satire*
"... "I made this" - Faketoshi meme edition "
- https://twitter.com/CryptoScamHub/status/1191221418555576326



...

"What's going to happen to Craig Wright now -- having apparently broken an agreement to settle in principle, after stringing the other side & Court along for 2 months -- is that he'll end up with a massive judgment against him & will lose every single motion in the case."
- https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1191004838898917376


I'm waiting on it, damn it not working out, bummer



https://decrypt.co/11291/bitcoin-sv-price-drops-while-50-fewer-people-use-it

"The number of Bitcoin SV transactions have halved in recent weeks, and its price has started tanking too."


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November 08, 2019, 05:58:39 PM
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"The number of Bitcoin SV transactions have halved in recent weeks, and its price has started tanking too.

orly? Tanking?

Right now, CMC reports BSV down by 3.04% over the last 7 days, this is true. But is 'tanking' a suitable description for such a small drop? If you think the answer to that question is 'yes', then how would you characterize BTC's loss of 4.17% over the same period?

Hmm?



Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).

Anyone with a campaign ad in their signature -- for an organization with which they are not otherwise affiliated -- is automatically deducted credibility points.

I've been convicted of heresy. Convicted by a mere known extortionist. Read my Trust for details.
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November 08, 2019, 06:36:18 PM
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"The number of Bitcoin SV transactions have halved in recent weeks, and its price has started tanking too.

orly? Tanking?

Right now, CMC reports BSV down by 3.04% over the last 7 days, this is true. But is 'tanking' a suitable description for such a small drop? If you think the answer to that question is 'yes', then how would you characterize BTC's loss of 4.17% over the same period?

Hmm?



Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
You might be right then but if we look at the current status of the crypto market as reported by the capital market Bitcoin does well than the CSW coin

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November 08, 2019, 07:17:06 PM
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Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?
ok - let me pull up some random pump & dump coin that just gained 317% in 24h.

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November 08, 2019, 07:20:39 PM
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Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?
ok - let me pull up some random pump & dump coin that just gained 317% in 24h.

BitCoin is the only coin who has scaling sorted,
New World record on testnet 2,734,797 transactions in a single block (528 MB)   
 https://stn.whatsonchain.com/block-height/4185

"The existing Visa credit card network processes about 15 million Internet purchases per day worldwide. Bitcoin can already scale much larger than that with existing hardware for a fraction of the cost. It never really hits a scale ceiling."  Satoshi Nakamoto, April 2009          Avoiding taxes is totally legal if you consider and respect the law.
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November 08, 2019, 07:22:42 PM
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BitCoin is the only coin who has scaling sorted,
New World record on testnet 2,734,797 transactions in a single block (528 MB)   
 https://stn.whatsonchain.com/block-height/4185
You can call it whatever you want but more capacity isn't necessarily better, especially depending on what's in it.
Can we at least agree on that? That comparing raw sizes isn't necessarily the whole picture?

Please, at least ONE point.

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November 08, 2019, 07:47:35 PM
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Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?
ok - let me pull up some random pump & dump coin that just gained 317% in 24h.

BitCoin is the only coin who has scaling sorted,
New World record on testnet 2,734,797 transactions in a single block (528 MB)   
 https://stn.whatsonchain.com/block-height/4185

Lets quote article conclusion from my previous post:

"But even though it has been outperforming Bitcoin in the long term—despite falling heavily today—it appears that fewer people are using it.
According to data from Coin.dance, the number of daily BSV transactions has dropped by more than 50% since October 25. Perhaps those
massive block sizes—designed for high numbers of transactions—won't be needed after all
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November 08, 2019, 08:08:33 PM
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BitCoin is the only coin who has scaling sorted,
New World record on testnet 2,734,797 transactions in a single block (528 MB)   
 https://stn.whatsonchain.com/block-height/4185
You can call it whatever you want but more capacity isn't necessarily better, especially depending on what's in it.
Can we at least agree on that? That comparing raw sizes isn't necessarily the whole picture?

Please, at least ONE point.
Oh dont worry there is lots of immutable scientific data to record, supply chains, data backups and payments foremost micro-payments and and...
At a time people where stating a single 1.44Mb floppy will last a lifetime a 20mb hard-drive just much to big, yeh right...

Now in other news
https://medium.com/nchain/digital-gold-d46b9493a17b

"The existing Visa credit card network processes about 15 million Internet purchases per day worldwide. Bitcoin can already scale much larger than that with existing hardware for a fraction of the cost. It never really hits a scale ceiling."  Satoshi Nakamoto, April 2009          Avoiding taxes is totally legal if you consider and respect the law.
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November 08, 2019, 08:09:56 PM
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Oh dont worry there is lots of immutable scientific data to record, supply chains, data backups and payments foremost micro-payments and and...
At a time people where stating a single 1.44Mb floppy will last a lifetime a 20mb hard-drive just much to big, yeh right...
Why combine it, then? Why not separate the financial portion from the use case portion?

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Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?
ok - let me pull up some random pump & dump coin that just gained 317% in 24h.

BitCoin is the only coin who has scaling sorted,
New World record on testnet 2,734,797 transactions in a single block (528 MB)   
 https://stn.whatsonchain.com/block-height/4185

Lets quote article conclusion from my previous post:

"But even though it has been outperforming Bitcoin in the long term—despite falling heavily today—it appears that fewer people are using it.
According to data from Coin.dance, the number of daily BSV transactions has dropped by more than 50% since October 25. Perhaps those
massive block sizes—designed for high numbers of transactions—won't be needed after all
."

BSV outperforming Bitcoin in the long term is false.
ATH of BSV against Bitcoin was in november 2018, as well as the 2nd best perf against Bitcoin. 3rd best was in dec 2018.
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In case someone missed it, Malta AIBC Summit Nov 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMB1K4w-wRk&feature=youtu.be

First time i heard him say segshit

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November 09, 2019, 05:39:59 AM
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It's still a shitcoin
Still waiting a proof
Do you want proof ? Okey I Will give you proof .
You can check this out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2371095
Bitcoin SV isn't just a bad investment. Its a scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149062.0

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Last edit: November 09, 2019, 04:46:58 PM by hv_
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In case someone missed it, Malta AIBC Summit Nov 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMB1K4w-wRk&feature=youtu.be

First time i heard him say segshit

Yes, good the message comes out, that Segshit was the biggest fork and crap that came from BScore, but all the crippling and darkening shit does also more harm than good.

Selling this fucked up version as 'Bitcoin' is the scam, but scammers are used to shout louder and try to smear the protectors of the original, esp in cost free post environments like our entire internet still is.

Metanet gonna fix that.

More cool stuff. A wordpress plugin for BitCoin paywall

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Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?

Actually, the bigger number doesn't qualify a crypto to be better but the user base level, miners and community support level which no other crypto surpass bitcoin in terms of the mention features are what can be use to judge how better a coin is not the act of price manipulation which are used by centralized coin team Besides, no other crypto can survive the government pressure as bitcoin did.


People like the CSW team won't admit to the truth until the coin vaporize from the market which will definitely happen sooner or later.

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Oh dont worry there is lots of immutable scientific data to record, supply chains, data backups and payments foremost micro-payments and and...
At a time people where stating a single 1.44Mb floppy will last a lifetime a 20mb hard-drive just much to big, yeh right...
Why combine it, then? Why not separate the financial portion from the use case portion?
Still waiting.

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I wanted to know about these links. And how do you know that they are actually official? I’ve been looking for a source for a long time that will give me all these links, but that they would not be from a scammer.
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Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?

Actually, the bigger number doesn't qualify a crypto to be better but the user base level, miners and community support level which no other crypto surpass bitcoin in terms of the mention features are what can be use to judge how better a coin is not the act of price manipulation which are used by centralized coin team Besides, no other crypto can survive the government pressure as bitcoin did.


People like the CSW team won't admit to the truth until the coin vaporize from the market which will definitely happen sooner or later.

Any coin, any global project can vaporize cause of many reasons.
Like

- bad governance
- no scaling , just tech dept
- not compliant
- not on purpose / rather altered to go darker / nichy use
- too much illegal use / no real use ( like store of value without medium of exchange/ interoperability)
- support only by haters, anonymous and anarchos


I do not see BSV to be vaporized or u see other reasons why?

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Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?

Actually, the bigger number doesn't qualify a crypto to be better but the user base level, miners and community support level which no other crypto surpass bitcoin in terms of the mention features are what can be use to judge how better a coin is not the act of price manipulation which are used by centralized coin team Besides, no other crypto can survive the government pressure as bitcoin did.


People like the CSW team won't admit to the truth until the coin vaporize from the market which will definitely happen sooner or later.

Any coin, any global project can vaporize cause of many reasons.
Like

- bad governance
- no scaling , just tech dept
- not compliant
- not on purpose / rather altered to go darker / nichy use
- too much illegal use / no real use ( like store of value without medium of exchange/ interoperability)
- support only by haters, anonymous and anarchos


I do not see BSV to be vaporized or u see other reasons why?


You left out some of the biggest ones:

- being created with the intention of scamming others
- not having any real-world use case scenarios
- being a copycat/clone of a pre-existing idea
- being led by frauds who perpetuate a culture of dishonesty around their coin

Sure, the major change / uasf / segwit fork created a new coin
On bitcoin.org all the business who wanted the 2x have been denounced and kicked out of the new Segshit coin
Besides Segshit BScore kept the name of Bitcoin , copied it, and scammed all others who bought in earlier - better way d ve been to call it Segshit Airdrop ( there was some announcement here...)
Honest mining is defined in the white paper. Segshit has no, that is fraud


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November 11, 2019, 05:58:35 AM
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ETH and all other smart contract platforms getting trouble?


https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3257191B1/en

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