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								| HEISENAIR | 
								|  | March 19, 2014, 12:51:31 PM |  | 
 
 With AUR going up yesterday, this is currently being manipulated. If you sell, you're just feeding the sharks. This is a set up for a Pump. |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 12:53:52 PM |  | 
 
 With AUR going up yesterday, this is currently being manipulated. If you sell, you're just feeding the sharks. This is a set up for a Pump.
 No, I am holding strong. No point to sell so low |  
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								| Luxasd | 
								|  | March 19, 2014, 12:56:33 PM |  | 
 
 Yes we do.He posted the old one.
 
 I have still the old one, but I hope there will be a "Germancoin" to save Germany... (ah there is already a Deutsche eMark)Yeah me too. eMark sounds like crap though. |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 01:00:14 PM |  | 
 
 p.s. the hashrate is growing again very interesting, coin hasnt moved all day yet more and more miners jumping back on.
 yeah, difficulty now is what it was when SPA was $3/coin. Good sign. E.g. the hashing power of litecoin rose about 20% on very little price movement, then a week later the price rises from sub 17 to above 20 (then of course get smashed back down as price attracts supply). sure sign of a pump coming also, ppl need to stop just looking at mintpal, which is clearly filled with the biggest supply of both coins and pikers. por exemplo: there is over 3k SPA on the 0.0011 bid in cryptorush.in, why the fuck are you selling at 0.001 on mintpal? at least take the time to transfer it over. some smaller exchanges have even higher bids, lol |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 01:04:09 PM |  | 
 
 p.s. the hashrate is growing again very interesting, coin hasnt moved all day yet more and more miners jumping back on.
 yeah, difficulty now is what it was when SPA was $3/coin. Good sign. E.g. the hashing power of litecoin rose about 20% on very little price movement, then a week later the price rises from sub 17 to above 20 (then of course get smashed back down as price attracts supply). sure sign of a pump coming also, ppl need to stop just looking at mintpal, which is clearly filled with the biggest supply of both coins and pikers. por exemplo: there is over 3k SPA on the 0.0011 bid in cryptorush.in, why the fuck are you selling at 0.001 on mintpal? at least take the time to transfer it over. some smaller exchanges have even higher bids, lol+1 |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 01:08:50 PM |  | 
 
 With the recent price dip and volume, any forecast about the hypothetical pump? Is it legit to expect even 0.1 btc like Aurora or is it more likely not going to exceed a 10x increase? |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 01:26:54 PM |  | 
 
 https://cryptrader.com/p.s. the hashrate is growing again very interesting, coin hasnt moved all day yet more and more miners jumping back on.
 yeah, difficulty now is what it was when SPA was $3/coin. Good sign. E.g. the hashing power of litecoin rose about 20% on very little price movement, then a week later the price rises from sub 17 to above 20 (then of course get smashed back down as price attracts supply). sure sign of a pump coming also, ppl need to stop just looking at mintpal, which is clearly filled with the biggest supply of both coins and pikers. por exemplo: there is over 3k SPA on the 0.0011 bid in cryptorush.in, why the fuck are you selling at 0.001 on mintpal? at least take the time to transfer it over. some smaller exchanges have even higher bids, lolFUCKING SHEEP that's why. I don't even like mintpal... i have no option to see what the highest trade volume coins are like any sensible exchange would have... how the fuck is a new trader supposed to make a choice where to invest? according to what? |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 01:29:48 PM |  | 
 
 another "country coin".   |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 01:30:19 PM |  | 
 
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								| dminer69 | 
								|  | March 19, 2014, 01:53:00 PM |  | 
 
 sooner or later the kraken will rise again  |  
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								| Altoidnerd | 
								|  | March 19, 2014, 01:55:06 PM |  | 
 
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 02:57:14 PM |  | 
 
 Its bs how spa was on its way up to .002 yesterday while mintpal was down then the priced dipped again once it came back on. This seems pretty stable ~$.70 for now though. It could easily stabilize to $3.50+  |  
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								| itsallpc | 
								|  | March 19, 2014, 03:05:35 PM |  | 
 
 Its bs how spa was on its way up to .002 yesterday while mintpal was down then the priced dipped again once it came back on. This seems pretty stable ~$.70 for now though. It could easily stabilize to $3.50+ 
 Yeah i do not like mintpal we should get off of that exchange i dont like it but it is a free market so cant do much about it  |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 03:10:25 PM |  | 
 
 sooner or later the kraken will rise again 
 i certainly think there is a great risk-weighted bet to be had here buying SPA.  as far as investment options are concerned: - your bank pays you fuck all on your deposits and with fees actually charges you for lending them money... - the yield on a 10yr US treasury note is only 2.69%, granted thats higher than 3 months ago before fed taper but still super low by historical standards - you could buy a stockmarket thats already rallied non-stop for 4 years, buoyed only by fed quantitative easing which is being removed as we speakOR - you could buy a national cryptocurrency which if it goes up will go up by MULTIPLES, ie 100% percent at a time. I mean, you don't want to invest any money you cant afford to lose, but look at the math SPAcoin vs speculative tech stock: invest $1k with both if they don't work out both leave you with nothing if the tech stock makes you money you make 50-200% of your money if the SPA makes you money it makes you 300-10000% of your money no question that its a buy here, even if it does end up going to 0. you'll make money in the long term taking risk-weighted bets like this. |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 03:16:32 PM |  | 
 
 sooner or later the kraken will rise again 
 i certainly think there is a great risk-weighted bet to be had here buying SPA.  as far as investment options are concerned: - your bank pays you fuck all on your deposits and with fees actually charges you for lending them money... - the yield on a 10yr US treasury note is only 2.69%, granted thats higher than 3 months ago before fed taper but still super low by historical standards - you could buy a stockmarket thats already rallied non-stop for 4 years, buoyed only by fed quantitative easing which is being removed as we speakOR - you could buy a national cryptocurrency which if it goes up will go up by MULTIPLES, ie 100% percent at a time. I mean, you don't want to invest any money you cant afford to lose, but look at the math SPAcoin vs speculative tech stock: invest $1k with both if they don't work out both leave you with nothing if the tech stock makes you money you make 50-200% of your money if the SPA makes you money it makes you 300-10000% of your money no question that its a buy here, even if it does end up going to 0. you'll make money in the long term taking risk-weighted bets like this.Yes. If you play markets right you can easily double, triple, or even quadruple your btc on a daily basis. If you have a good pump team thats organized you can make thousands on a daily basis. Even in the long run you can make money if things dont work out. Imagine playing parts in an aspect of a country's money supply. I think SPA is a sleeping giant right now.  |  
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								| murraypaul | 
								|  | March 19, 2014, 03:49:26 PM |  | 
 
 sooner or later the kraken will rise again 
 - you could buy a national cryptocurrency which if it goes up will go up by MULTIPLES, ie 100% percent at a time. I mean, you don't want to invest any money you cant afford to lose, but look at the math SPAcoin vs speculative tech stock: invest $1k with both if they don't work out both leave you with nothing if the tech stock makes you money you make 50-200% of your money if the SPA makes you money it makes you 300-10000% of your money no question that its a buy here, even if it does end up going to 0. you'll make money in the long term taking risk-weighted bets like this.The rather obvious point you've missed is that there is no reason to think that there is the same likelyhood  that SPA will make you money vs investing in a stock. If  it works it will make you more money, but it is less likely  to work. Without taking account of both of those factors you can't say whether the expected return is better or not. The obvious counter argument is that playing the lottery might give you a 1000000% return, but the expected  return of playing the lottery is a loss, on average you will get out of it less than you put in. That isn't investing, it is gambling. |  
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 03:53:48 PM |  | 
 
 sooner or later the kraken will rise again 
 - you could buy a national cryptocurrency which if it goes up will go up by MULTIPLES, ie 100% percent at a time. I mean, you don't want to invest any money you cant afford to lose, but look at the math SPAcoin vs speculative tech stock: invest $1k with both if they don't work out both leave you with nothing if the tech stock makes you money you make 50-200% of your money if the SPA makes you money it makes you 300-10000% of your money no question that its a buy here, even if it does end up going to 0. you'll make money in the long term taking risk-weighted bets like this.The rather obvious point you've missed is that there is no reason to think that there is the same likelyhood  that SPA will make you money vs investing in a stock. If  it works it will make you more money, but it is less likely  to work. Without taking account of both of those factors you can't say whether the expected return is better or not. The obvious counter argument is that playing the lottery might give you a 1000000% return, but the expected  return of playing the lottery is a loss, on average you will get out of it less than you put in. That isn't investing, it is gambling.If you hold for long term, its investing. You're investing in the future of crypto currency and its wide spread acceptance when you put money into projects like this.  |  
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								| philipvdlinde | 
								|  | March 19, 2014, 04:09:54 PM |  | 
 
 Do you guys think that 0,05 would be possible again for SPA in the shortterm? |  
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								| buttonmc | 
								|  | March 19, 2014, 04:11:13 PM |  | 
 
 Let's do some numbers:
 Auroracoin for Iceland
 
 Population: 330,000
 Premine: 10.5 M
 AUR per person: 31.8
 Current value per person: $15.52 x 31.8 = $493.536
 
 
 Spaincoin for Spain
 
 Population: 46.82 M
 Premine: 25M
 SPA per person: ~0.534
 Current value per person: $0.67 x 0.534 = $0.358
 
 
 This is a huge difference! If the value per person was the same as AUR atm, then Spaincoin would have a market cap of $23 billion!!!
 
 Bottom line is, do you think SPA has more or less potential than Auroracoin? Based on the numbers, SPA could be massively undervalued.
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								|  | March 19, 2014, 04:13:20 PM |  | 
 
 Do you guys think that 0,05 would be possible again for SPA in the shortterm?
 I think you meant 0.005 I hope it will be there someday |  
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