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LoyceV
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June 03, 2021, 11:12:39 AM |
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There's an error in your BPIP links: Thanks, I've edited it. Unless BPIP recently disabled the link I used, I've been posting the wrong URLs for many months.
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June 03, 2021, 11:15:24 AM |
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There's an error in your BPIP links: Thanks, I've edited it. Unless BPIP recently disabled the link I used, I've been posting the wrong URLs for many months. I haven't looked in on this post for quite a while due to other things needing my attention, but your links in other threads which I've used have all worked. I'll check some of the other threads out to see if there are any others with broken links.
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June 03, 2021, 11:20:13 AM |
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your links in other threads which I've used have all worked. It looks like it's only the script I used for this topic.
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icopress
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Not that it bothers me much, but I want to raise a rhetorical question about the monthly DT elections .. I see a tendency in mutual inclusion and exclusion on the basis of solidarity or revenge. So, users who, for one reason or another, were excluded from DT show solidarity, thereby pushing each other up the stairs, (0, +1).There are more and more such users, and this becomes a problem, since out of a sense of revenge they exclude those who used the tilde against them. While it may seem like the right move for the average user to exclude people who abuse the trust system, this does not mean that the user will do so, since this step will lead to massive mutual exclusions (we can see how this looks like in mindrust's example). I just want to say that the problem is that due to the lack of a counterweight, the most common user on DT1 will think twice about using the tilde or not. It seems to me that the simplest and most reasonable solution may be the coordinated actions of 3-5 volunteers that will maintain the balance according to the principle: until another DT1 member makes an exception/inclusion, or the user personally requests an exception from the DT1 network. Although, it all depends on the point of view, since I am sure that from a different angle it may also seem like interference (in the sense that, by and large, such actions will not differ in any way from those discussed)
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June 03, 2021, 05:53:58 PM |
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It surprised me that bill gator made it onto the list this time around--not because I distrust him or have anything against him, but because apparently a lot of other members do. Plus I don't think he's been all that active as of late.
Carlton Banks is another head scratcher, as he doesn't have a lot of positive feedback and has a DT negative as well. I can't say I fully understand how the DT list is picked each cycle, but it's damn clear to me that it ain't what it used to be. I think the forum should seriously consider going back to the way it used to be, where it took a lot of time to establish community trust before you could even get on DT2. True, that depended on how DT1 was selected, but back then it was a major deal to add even one new member to DT2 because of the power it gives an individual. Now it's more or less no big deal.
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June 03, 2021, 09:12:16 PM |
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There's an error in your BPIP links: Thanks, I've edited it. Unless BPIP recently disabled the link I used, I've been posting the wrong URLs for many months. It used to be "Profile.aspx", then we updated the routing a little bit and it's now just "Profile", but there is a redirect so "Profile.aspx" still works too. We never had "Profile.p" as far as I know. You used ".aspx" links in August 2020 and then for some reason it became ".p" in September.
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June 04, 2021, 01:37:25 AM |
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I can't say I fully understand how the DT list is picked each cycle, but it's damn clear to me that it ain't what it used to be.
The amount of scrutiny that went into adding users to the DT network years ago was something many of us didn't take lightly. The complaints were often that users felt they should be in DT, regardless of how much real world interaction they had with others or how deserving they were, etc. Others felt that they were wrongly rated as non-trustworthy because of their actions towards individuals in DT. It wasn't something any of us took lightly. Friendships were strained, people had hurt feelings, organizations were attacked, lies were spread, even to this day there are users who have trusted me with thousands of dollars of their money and would do so again, but won't leave me a positive rating out of spite that I took my job seriously and didn't add whoever they demanded to my network. It was foolish to think that doling out merit, largely to users with little to no real world interaction with users here, could possibly result in somehow establishing a more accurate trust network. It was a cop out to skirt responsibility and leave us original DT members who had been safeguarding the network to face the backlash by suddenly empowered nefarious users who were held out of the system because they didn't deserve to be in it in the first place. All I can say is it's still early and the trust system is going to get a lot worse. The only option at this point is to remove all negatives from the system and let people be judged by how many positives they have, not who kissed the most ass while playing politics. I won't hold my breath...
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June 04, 2021, 03:04:46 AM |
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The new system is better because there is much less weight each individual user has on the DT system. It is also good that there is a rotation of users who are in DT1 (and as such on DT2) each month. Both of the above create disincentives to leave retaliatory ratings, and that someone excluded for less than perfect reasons might not be excluded the next month.
The new system is not perfect and has its drawbacks. For example, there is an incentive for groupthink, and there is a lot of groupthink. Part of this is caused by the merit system, as particular merit sources don’t give merit to particular people (nor do they give merit for particular opinions). A solution to this would be to add merit sources with a diverse viewpoint and to those who have a history of giving merit regardless of viewpoint (and reduce sMerit of those that won’t).
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June 04, 2021, 09:08:55 AM |
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I don't know what happened ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I've edited all posts to the correct version now.
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September 04, 2021, 01:11:34 PM |
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Peace and happiness finally arrived. Three monthly updates in a row and no flame wars about who looked at whom the wrong way or committed some other grave thoughtcrime.
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September 04, 2021, 05:49:15 PM Last edit: September 04, 2021, 06:04:19 PM by icopress |
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It's just that no one noticed the mutual exclusion this week and the previous week by one of those guys who keep repeating that he (they) is a DT, that his (their) words are constantly attacked and, most importantly, there is nothing worse than mutual exclusion based on anger. But everyone is already so tired of this shit that people have long ceased to attach importance to it, so in recent months we have been living without hot discussions. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 04, 2021, 06:32:03 PM |
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I'm off the hook this month ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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icopress
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November 01, 2021, 09:17:25 PM |
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I'm out for the 3rd month in a row.
Man, is karma [You are too sweet and kind for this merciless place] ... as they say: no good deed goes unpunished ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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