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December 14, 2019, 08:03:44 PM
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It is a translation that i did 2 years ago. I did lots of ICO and WP translations.

I'm trying to be a constructive and a sharing member of BTT forum. but last days some people read all of my 2874 old post. and digging it. I m a Man. so don't stalk me. 

I dont know why these people attacking me and i don't wanna know. If is there anything wrong. just PM me. I can talk the problems, i can spare time for it. But i don't like wasting time with nonsense things. and i will not. I don't have time for quarrel.


*i can edit this topic, if its a shit token or something like that.

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December 14, 2019, 08:29:20 PM
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if its a shit token or something like that.

It's a ponzi scam. But don't worry, it's perfectly ok to be a multi-account scam promoter in this new trust system. Welcome to DT.

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December 14, 2019, 08:51:03 PM
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if its a shit token or something like that.

It's a ponzi scam. But don't worry, it's perfectly ok to be a multi-account scam promoter in this new trust system. Welcome to DT.

Instead of starting a drama about the new trust system, you and other DT members can give distrust to remove him from DT list.

Before the new default trust system came, there was no one who could give negative trust to the scams in the Turkish local forum.

And now, we can kick scammers' asses and can create a flag to them as we did for gablay12.
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December 14, 2019, 09:59:58 PM
Last edit: December 14, 2019, 10:12:08 PM by marlboroza
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Instead of starting a drama about the new trust system
Are we now calling "thief in DT", "ban evaders in DT" and "obvious scam advertiser" drama?

you and other DT members can give distrust to remove him from DT list.
Why, you don't have enough DT members in Turkish local to clean their shit or something?

Before the new default trust system came, there was no one who could give negative trust to the scams in the Turkish local forum.

And now, we can kick scammers' asses and can create a flag to them as we did for gablay12.
And that is great and I completely agree that every local section should have DT members, but not DT members like wolwoo aka The War Lord or otto_diesel aka The HeyHeyHeeey Guy, and judging the way how they express themselves and behave I am starting to believe they are altz. I mean it, I think they are alts. Or DT accounts like goraset "I didn't steal, I didn't copy/paste" and when I pointed banned alt accounts then "yes, I did".

but last days some people read all of my 2874 old post. and digging it. I m a Man. so don't stalk me.  
It is not called stalking, you know  Roll Eyes

It is a translation that i did 2 years ago. I did lots of ICO and WP translations.
2 years later:
*i can edit this topic, if its a shit token or something like that.
If it is?

You don't sound like someone whose judgement people should trust, as the matter of fact, it is one big mystery how bitcoinect clone has not been tagged together with your account.

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December 14, 2019, 10:38:55 PM
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Why, you don't have enough DT members in Turkish local to clean their shit or something

If you gave a chance people to learn the new default system, people would do it. People donít have to detect bounty hunters, it is not their business but, you can do it if you have time that you can spend to detect someone. There are 100 person who is dt member and most of them are experienced, they can give distrust if someone isnít appropriate for being a DT.

Goraset copied someoneís article, it was a mistake but it doesnít mean he is a scammer. Trust me, he is more reliable than 99.99 percent of those members.
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December 14, 2019, 10:59:54 PM
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if its a shit token or something like that.

It's a ponzi scam. But don't worry, it's perfectly ok to be a multi-account scam promoter in this new trust system. Welcome to DT.

Instead of starting a drama about the new trust system, you and other DT members can give distrust to remove him from DT list.

That was about as un-drammy as could put it. I have distrusted quite a few of these "cousins" so I'm doing my part, are you?

Why, you don't have enough DT members in Turkish local to clean their shit or something

If you gave a chance people to learn the new default system, people would do it.

Come on now... marlboroza has given your board 6 or 7 chances to clean it up and all he got in return was massive trolling. You want to run your local trust system with sockpuppets, plagiarisers, scam promoters - that's fine, knock yourselves out, just don't expect everybody to cheer and clap.

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December 14, 2019, 11:04:52 PM
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Goraset copied someoneís article, it was a mistake but it doesnít mean he is a scammer. Trust me, he is more reliable than 99.99 percent of those members.
A mistake? so he tripped and accidentally posted someone else's article and tried to pass it off as his own? Huh

While plagiarism may not make him a "scammer" in the traditional sense of the word... it does make him dishonest and untrustworthy in the eyes of some.

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December 14, 2019, 11:35:05 PM
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Goraset copied someoneís article, it was a mistake but it doesnít mean he is a scammer. Trust me, he is more reliable than 99.99 percent of those members.
It was more than one article and he retaliated against person whose article he stole, lauda, me, he even lied that he didn't do it, I bet if that other person had accused him that he would have retaliated too. He doesn't look like reliable person to me, but "more reliable than 99.99% of those members" is probably something to discuss. It's like saying "he robbed a bank, he is better than the other guy who killed 10 people", while it might be true that bank robber is probably better than a killer that doesn't beat the fact that they both did "something wrong". Ban evasion is only a bonus.

If you gave a chance people to learn the new default system, people would do it.
How hard it can be? You see someone doing "shit" and you don't trust him nor his judgement.

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December 14, 2019, 11:49:10 PM
Last edit: December 15, 2019, 12:47:58 AM by Blacknavy
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Goraset copied someoneís article, it was a mistake but it doesnít mean he is a scammer. Trust me, he is more reliable than 99.99 percent of those members.
A mistake? so he tripped and accidentally posted someone else's article and tried to pass it off as his own? Huh

While plagiarism may not make him a "scammer" in the traditional sense of the word... it does make him dishonest and untrustworthy in the eyes of some.

People in local sections didnít know what is plagiarism but they learned by now.

He has already been tagged by some DT members but he has been still sending posts to this forum for 2 years even if he donít get paid to send post because he couldnít wear a signature since he was tagged. He isnít DT1 member but i think he deserves to become DT2. He known for his solidity, I can use him as an escrow.

However, people removed him from their DT lists but he doesnít deserve to be banned.

Goraset copied someoneís article, it was a mistake but it doesnít mean he is a scammer. Trust me, he is more reliable than 99.99 percent of those members.
It was more than one article and he retaliated against person whose article he stole, lauda, me, he even lied that he didn't do it, I bet if that other person had accused him that he would have retaliated too. He doesn't look like reliable person to me, but "more reliable than 99.99% of those members" is probably something to discuss. It's like saying "he robbed a bank, he is better than the other guy who killed 10 people", while it might be true that bank robber is probably better than a killer that doesn't beat the fact that they both did "something wrong". Ban evasion is only a bonus.

If you gave a chance people to learn the new default system, people would do it.
How hard it can be? You see someone doing "shit" and you don't trust him nor his judgement.

Retailating against default trust members didnít mean anything in old default system because you were as god. People knew that when they send a negative trust to DT members, it couldnít decrease their reputation because default trust system was centralized and you were unbreakable (i couldnít find this word exactly but i think you can understand).
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December 15, 2019, 12:04:59 AM
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He isnít DT1 member but i think he deserves to become DT2. He known for his solidity, I can use him as an escrow.

[...]

Retailating against default trust members didnít mean anything in old default system because you were as god. People knew that when they send a negative trust to DT members, it couldnít decrease their reputation because default trust system was centralized and you were unbreakable (i couldnít translate this word exactly but i think you can understand).

So now he deserves to be in DT so that his relation would be more successful? Every day it seems I learn about new uses for the trust system, sometimes twice a day.

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December 15, 2019, 12:10:09 AM
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He isnít DT1 member but i think he deserves to become DT2. He known for his solidity, I can use him as an escrow.

[...]

Retailating against default trust members didnít mean anything in old default system because you were as god. People knew that when they send a negative trust to DT members, it couldnít decrease their reputation because default trust system was centralized and you were unbreakable (i couldnít translate this word exactly but i think you can understand).

So now he deserves to be in DT so that his relation would be more successful? Every day it seems I learn about new uses for the trust system, sometimes twice a day.

I think yes, he deserves to become DT2 but people already removed him from their trust list. There is no problem no more.
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December 15, 2019, 12:26:50 AM
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people removed him from their DT lists
people already removed him from their trust list. There is no problem no more.

I have found another bug in trust system, people removed him but he is not removed. Hm...maybe I should delete cookies?

So now he deserves to be in DT so that his relation would be more successful? Every day it seems I learn about new uses for the trust system, sometimes twice a day.
They don't call it "default trust changes" for no reason.

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December 15, 2019, 12:42:17 AM
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I think yes, he deserves to become DT2 but people already removed him from their trust list. There is no problem no more.

There is a problem because goraset is still in DT2 and his neg trust is visible by default not only on marlboroza's account as he shows above, but also on the account of the person who reported goraset's plagiarism. That's gotta be considered fucked up even in the pretzel universe you guys live in... I mean if:

People in local sections didnít know what is plagiarism but they learned by now.

Then it begs the question - what did "they" learn exactly? In order to plagiarize with impunity one has to be in DT?

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December 15, 2019, 01:02:05 AM
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When otto diesel remove goraset his own trust list, this problem will be solved right?

You can give distrust to him
You can ask otto_diesel to remove him from his own trust list

Creating million cases or criticizing the new trust system arenít required to solve this situation. There wonít be any person left in our section because of some interesting rules. Actually, itís quite easy to solve.
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December 15, 2019, 01:19:33 AM
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When otto diesel remove goraset his own trust list, this problem will be solved right?

You can give distrust to him
You can ask otto_diesel to remove him from his own trust list
Don't you think otto_diesel should not be near this system, I mean they obviously can't determine what is right and what is wrong, just read these words:

*i can edit this topic, if its a shit token or something like that.
Indeed, he edited topic just recently but the way he did it:

just deleted, they said BCHCONNECT.CO is a shit token or something like that.
Huh

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December 15, 2019, 01:21:10 AM
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When otto diesel remove goraset his own trust list, this problem will be solved right?

You can give distrust to him
You can ask otto_diesel to remove him from his own trust list

Creating million cases or criticizing the new trust system arenít required to solve this situation. There wonít be any person left in our section because of some interesting rules. Actually, itís quite easy to solve.

Except you aren't solving shit even when "cases" are brought up, just launching a bunch of tone complaints and straw people and other assorted fallacies. Where will those "persons" from your section go if they are no longer in DT? How did they survive before they were in DT? Stop exaggerating this nonsense. If it's easy to solve - do it.

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December 15, 2019, 01:36:25 AM
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Stop exaggerating this nonsense. If it's easy to solve - do it.

You whined about the new trust system and I told you that new system was required for us to kick scammersí asses, then you talked about other people. I didnít get involved with this situation, it is not my business and Iím not a DT member. Good luck you to solve this problem.

Of course, it's always someone else that should do it Wink. Thank you for teaching us about the new trust system. Much appreciated. We've been in the dark for the whole year.

I donít even care whatever you say no more because of your disrespectful behaviour.
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December 15, 2019, 01:47:33 AM
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Stop exaggerating this nonsense. If it's easy to solve - do it.

You whined about the new trust system and I told you that new system was required for us to kick scammersí asses, then you talked about other people. I didnít get involved with this situation, it is not my business and Iím not a DT member. Good luck you to solve this problem.

Of course, it's always someone else that should do it Wink. Thank you for teaching us about the new trust system. Much appreciated. We've been in the dark for the whole year.

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December 15, 2019, 01:58:47 AM
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I told you that new system was required for us to kick scammersí asses
I don't see anyone kicked this ass https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2730445.0 and I could make some points about "we need DT to kick some scammy asses"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1003533
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=487377
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1213661
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=963279
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1367217
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1862460
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2519942
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1046135
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1277439
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1071136
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=151256

Look at all these positive trusts.


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December 15, 2019, 02:09:31 AM
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I didn't promote anything. i'm a engineer not a sales man. I did lots of ICO and WP translation on ICO rush, it just one of them. I don't have a post that ''promote'' anything.  

go and stalk my other old posts maybe you can find another things like that.

I'm not a anonymous person. you can find my insta, facebook, all social media accounts, linked.in, my car's model, where i parked it. maybe you can find a park issue and you can find a car parking rules conflict.

or a tire pressure issue if it does not meet the requirements of law.

you can even find my car's plate number, my home adress. My ticked number for Bosphorus Bridges, you can find the time when i cross the bridges. ( you can pay my monthly bridge tax too lol ).

I'm not a internet guy like you. I m honest person, I met nearly 30 person on BTT forum via face to face. It's important for a trade and important for trust system. I'm a trustful person with my all trades.

*i wasn't know the goraset issue, do I have to know everything?  so why you didn't told me that before start a witch hunt?  you can easily tell me or a tell a DT.


Let me clear you :  My trust,  work like that =  If i knew a person more that 1 year,  (1 whole year)  and if i did a deal with this person via face to face or via on phone. And if he/she didn't con me. i trust him/her. it's easy. my trust feeling work like that.

But i don't know you in real life. actually i don't wanna know.

you can use plate number and you can find a speed tax for 57 km/h on a 50 km/h road. and open a topic, traffic abuser otto_diesel should be banned.


* again i wasn't know the goraset issue. How can i know your own conflicts??  If majority of these forum doesn't trust him, I will delete him from the list. it's easy.



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