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May 05, 2019, 04:33:01 PM
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Small example I know nutildah have trust in me for not being a scammer and for being a "good, contributing" member, I was on his trust list, still he took me off cause I think tmfp or something distrusts me, I never have a bad feeling for these things and understand if one wants to succeed in something then they probably have to chose sides and trust or distrust members for getting on this DT1...

To be honest with you mic, yes that was part of the reason but also it's because you (at the time) hadn't written any negative trust ratings, and all your positives were for people I'd personally never interacted with.

There seems to be two camps of trust writers: traders and scambusters. I fall more into the latter category and trading doesn't mean as much to me. 

I do find you trustworthy and I think your path to DT1 is unstoppable with or without my vote. I'd personally like to get a better sense of your ratings without trying to encourage you to write more faster.


I would think its about the person itself, if one decide to trust another then you would need to trust his judgement of trusting other I know

- I would think the most that I trust are members you're familiar with and my trust feedbacks are all based on my personal experiences with those members or what I witness, thats all whats important to me.
For example, LFC I have had many PM's with involving all kinds of stuff as help as other and based on that I have trust in him and point that out same as with many others of who I send positive feedback...

-Its also members taking there personal free time to do something for 0 cost as XhomerX did for me is something I will not forget and will gain some positive feedback, cause he maybe don't trade, but he for example is a very contributing member and never been seen to have any attempt of scamming anyone, so you have scambusters and give them red-trust, but those that POSITIVE contribute and help out don't they deserve some green-trust, as the scammers deserve red?

-I have made purchases and send +5-6-7K BTC-value whiteout escrow and have received all A+++ I actually have bought more of value and just left it @a members place to become more and send it all @once, so if those things work out well thats a positive feedback worthy IMO.

As I said I understand

-traders, should be pointed out with green and red to see who's dealing correctly and who's not.
-scambusters, are very very useful to tag red where needed.

What I mostly wanna say is, for me the positive feedback that I have been given is all backed by something and are all established members that earns some positive feedback.

As for me if people trust me and I end up DT1 then its so, but its not something i'm after, I would think i'm much more useful to send merit where its due, as I try to become a source...


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May 05, 2019, 04:53:07 PM
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-Its also members taking there personal free time to do something for 0 cost as XhomerX did for me is something I will not forget and will gain some positive feedback, cause he maybe don't trade, but he for example is a very contributing member and never been seen to have any attempt of scamming anyone, so you have scambusters and give them red-trust, but those that POSITIVE contribute and help out don't they deserve some green-trust, as the scammers deserve red?

The only problem is someone's ability of willingness to point out scams doesn't necessarily make them trustworthy, that's why there's a lot more red than green in that department. But I do agree with you for the most part about making your decisions based on interactions with members.

As for me if people trust me and I end up DT1 then its so, but its not something i'm after, I would think i'm much more useful to send merit where its due, as I try to become a source...

I'm all but certain you will be favorably considered as a merit source the next time theymos does a new round of issuance.

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May 05, 2019, 04:54:22 PM
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It always makes me so damn curious why someone takes me off their Trust list.
Too much politics involved for my liking.

I'm curious why you're curious  Grin

Doesn't make a difference in how would I conduct myself on the forum and I know there might be a number of causes (political or not) unrelated to me why people do it, so I can't think of a reason why I should care much about being added or removed. Unless they want to discuss it, which is also fine.

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May 05, 2019, 05:39:30 PM
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He stole 41,000 bitcoin’s & said it was a ‘hack.

Then he shared some of that coin with Quickseller.  Smiley

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May 05, 2019, 06:55:32 PM
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Small example I know nutildah have trust in me for not being a scammer and for being a "good, contributing" member, I was on his trust list, still he took me off cause I think tmfp or something distrusts me, I never have a bad feeling for these things and understand if one wants to succeed in something then they probably have to chose sides and trust or distrust members for getting on this DT1...

Seeing as you've brought my name up (or something) I'll make my personal position super clear.
I am not part of any "clique" or circle jerk here.
I have nothing to do with "choosing sides", forum politics, doing "trust deals" or scratching backs with nutildah or anyone else.
I explained at the time why I put you on my exclusion list.
You're too nice a guy to be on DT.

I was being a nice guy too.
What I actually meant was I think that your "one of the lads", see-the-best-in-people type nature, however pleasant a drinking partner or reliable a friend it may make you, borders on naivety, which is a quality I personally don't think is desirable on Default Trust. This may be my problem, being over cynical, but it's my honest opinion.
And whilst I'm making enemies of your homies, those are the same reasons I wouldn't support you being a Merit Source either.



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May 05, 2019, 07:31:16 PM
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too nice

I can confirm, it takes a certain type of asshole to be in DT / merit recycling foxhole / etc. But I do believe a nice person can learn the necessary skills too.

Perhaps I'm being too nice now, I tend to mellow on Sundays.

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May 05, 2019, 07:35:21 PM
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Emotions are so human, maybe allow only AI on DT?

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May 05, 2019, 07:43:31 PM
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Emotions are so human, maybe allow only AI on DT?
All current and foreseeable future AI has emotions built it due to the creator's bias. Wink AI DT would be even worse than the mess that we have today.

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Small example I know nutildah have trust in me for not being a scammer and for being a "good, contributing" member, I was on his trust list, still he took me off cause I think tmfp or something distrusts me, I never have a bad feeling for these things and understand if one wants to succeed in something then they probably have to chose sides and trust or distrust members for getting on this DT1...

Seeing as you've brought my name up (or something) I'll make my personal position super clear.
I am not part of any "clique" or circle jerk here.
I have nothing to do with "choosing sides", forum politics, doing "trust deals" or scratching backs with nutildah or anyone else.
I explained at the time why I put you on my exclusion list.
You're too nice a guy to be on DT.

I was being a nice guy too.
What I actually meant was I think that your "one of the lads", see-the-best-in-people type nature, however pleasant a drinking partner or reliable a friend it may make you, borders on naivety, which is a quality I personally don't think is desirable on Default Trust. This may be my problem, being over cynical, but it's my honest opinion.
And whilst I'm making enemies of your homies, those are the same reasons I wouldn't support you being a Merit Source either.




Ok, I can follow with DT and stuff, maybe cause i'm also not really looking for a position there... IMO its almost only a place where one scratches an-others back type of place, maybe i'm wrong but as I say i'm not really looking for DT1 position.

You are absolutely right, probably i'm a bit to kind from nature, but when its been mutual same wise, then why would I change it, so based on many member to member interactions that I have had I left some positive feedback, not so many though, but each one i'm sure of they are members here with right intentions, and the other positive feedback that I have left is for successful trades from me and another without escrow or anything, where I send BTC first and received my stuff.... So I think a positive feedback for such a member is @ its place...

Then please just stop with the homies BS, like wtf?... I have been very long active @the WO thread before I knew there was anything more on the forum, as I pointed i'm not a computer specialist or anything, so indeed I know them best over there and most of merit I have send was @the WO, but as i'm just another learning member, trying to contribute member and I have explored more sides of the forum, and just have the most interest to hang out @the speculation section, collectibles section and gonna try to be more active @the Dutch section.....

Pity you wouldn't support the Ms request, cause imho I think I have not send out merit that isn't @ its place. 

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May 05, 2019, 07:49:17 PM
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He stole 41,000 bitcoin’s & said it was a ‘hack.

Then he shared some of that coin with Quickseller.  Smiley

Seriously?
I wasn’t aware of that Sad




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May 05, 2019, 07:54:17 PM
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too nice

I can confirm, it takes a certain type of asshole to be in DT / merit recycling foxhole / etc. But I do believe a nice person can learn the necessary skills too.

Perhaps I'm being too nice now, I tend to mellow on Sundays.

As I say why not to be nice to everyone that crosses your path doesn't do anything wrong... Ok against r0ach or rebal15 or gembitz I haven't been nice to as well.... but they mainly post their opinions (against BTC), but they didn't scam anybody... I will only give red-trust as when i'm sure they wanna scam someone for money, and it didn't happen to me yet....


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He stole 41,000 bitcoin’s & said it was a ‘hack.

Then he shared some of that coin with Quickseller.  Smiley

Seriously?
I wasn’t aware of that Sad

Come on... you're gonna fail the Bitcointalk History midterms Smiley

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Proof that cryptohunter is DT:
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Also, your account isn't ruined.  You can still help people here all you want.  Just because you're red-trusted doesn't mean that people aren't going to listen to what you have to say if you give them some technical advice or whatever.  You just might not be able to get loans very easily.


You did not quite understand my words.
I wanted to take a loan in 2017, then Bitcoin cost much less.
But then he changed his mind.
And I did not know at that time that such requests were very serious.
And two years later I was told that I had a negative trust in my account.
Although I did not even know about it!

We were advised to create a theme and I made it in January 2019!
Immediately, they set me up as a crook and a liar.
Although there were no more requests for loans and I was helping people all the time.

And the participants, whom I do not know, for some reason, they put a negative trust in me just do not want to change their decisions.
I don’t mind feedback from EcuaMobi, but why did others do that?
After all, I don’t even know anyone from them, I didn’t even ask them for anything!

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May 07, 2019, 07:43:38 AM
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You did not quite understand my words.
I wanted to take a loan in 2017, then Bitcoin cost much less.

Really depends when in 2017. 2017 low was around $800 and 2017 high is BTC's ATH.

So this is still quite a big amount.

On May 3rd it was around $1400. So 2.5 BTC at that time is still considered as a considerable loan IMHO.

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Question: Can a banned user still update his Trust list?
Last week, lovesmayfamilis got a permban. That was changed into a 60 days ban 3 days ago.
After he got banned, lovesmayfamilis removed ICOEthics from his Trust list.

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My understanding of a ban is you are only restricted from posting. Not from logging in.

Hence you can still perform some actions to your profile. Please correct me if I am wrong Wink

I guess changing Avatar & Sig is also blocked since it would allow some king of communication which the ban aims to prevent.

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My understanding of a ban is you are only restricted from posting. Not from logging in.

Hence you can still perform some actions to your profile. Please correct me if I am wrong Wink

I guess changing Avatar & Sig is also blocked since it would allow some king of communication which the ban aims to prevent.

Can be an involuntary thing, till some months ago banned people (temp) could send merit.

I have no info on what permabanned account could do.

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Question: Can a banned user still update his Trust list?
Last week, lovesmayfamilis got a permban. That was changed into a 60 days ban 3 days ago.
After he got banned, lovesmayfamilis removed ICOEthics from his Trust list.

Even with permaban, the user still has the ability to change the trust list and delete feedbacks (Proof)
 

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Question: Can a banned user still update his Trust list? <...>

I think it's possible.

<...> Autobans ban the account involved only, you can still log in and do everything normally, just can't post or pm. <...>

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