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January 03, 2020, 10:08:22 AM
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I think the trust system is moving in the right direction. It was stagnant and tightly controlled for a long time, it will take a while to change the cultural norms of what the acceptable use of the system is to really see the full results IMO. I think progress is being made in that direction.
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January 03, 2020, 10:17:35 AM
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Theymos said that:
you should not use trust ratings to attack a person's opinions
So basically, tagging a person for personal hate is our problem here. I hope more DT will be professional and set aside their personal hate for using the trust system.

I too think more DTs being professional about it and holding some standards for there tags would make an positive effect for sure.

I was just curious about what are the views of our administrator about the recent ongoing use of trust system and the issues around it ? as it always helps us to be inside the line of the views of the creator of the system. As you used one of his quotes to define improper use of red trust.
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January 03, 2020, 08:04:37 PM
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And what a strange bunch we are.
We should have a pool: who's going to be the last (wo)man standing? 20 now, 16 next month, then 13, 10, ... and at some point 2 years from now the last DT1 who never lost will lose his spot for the first time.
I put my money on theymos Cheesy

Theymos is out  Shocked  Wink

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January 03, 2020, 08:30:59 PM
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Theymos is out  Shocked  Wink

It happens, even to the best of us Wink

I’ve already been out twice so far, managed to stay in this month though.

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January 03, 2020, 08:36:27 PM
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And what a strange bunch we are.
We should have a pool: who's going to be the last (wo)man standing? 20 now, 16 next month, then 13, 10, ... and at some point 2 years from now the last DT1 who never lost will lose his spot for the first time.
I put my money on theymos Cheesy

Theymos is out  Shocked  Wink

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January 03, 2020, 10:03:59 PM
Last edit: January 04, 2020, 05:34:19 AM by fillippone
 #2027

And what a strange bunch we are.
We should have a pool: who's going to be the last (wo)man standing? 20 now, 16 next month, then 13, 10, ... and at some point 2 years from now the last DT1 who never lost will lose his spot for the first time.
I put my money on theymos Cheesy

Theymos is out  Shocked  Wink

Who's in?
These users have never been excluded from DT1 (number of DT1 inclusions since March 2019)
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achow101           11
bL4nkcode          11
coinlocket$        11
cryptodevil        11
Cyrus              11
hilariousandco     11
hybridsole         11
Jet Cash           11
Lafu               11
Lesbian Cow        11
LoyceV             11
Mitchell           11
mprep              11
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owlcatz            11
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sapta              11
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January 04, 2020, 05:08:17 AM
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I was chosen again but I'm not DT1 again. it looks like this: ruling MPs rule out opposition MPs. What is the point of choosing the opponents if they will always gain power? If 20 people get together, they can check the whole forum. At least you need a higher rate like DDOS attack or 51% attack on bitcoin ...

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January 04, 2020, 05:21:16 AM
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I was chosen again but I'm not DT1 again.

Very nice. Proof that at least in some cases the system works as intended by weeding out some users with poor judgement.

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January 04, 2020, 05:26:50 AM
 #2030

I was chosen again but I'm not DT1 again.

Very nice. Proof that at least in some cases the system works as intended by weeding out some users with poor judgement.

Ok. But sometimes it doesn't.


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I would even add OGnasty. He is out too.

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January 04, 2020, 05:45:53 AM
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I was chosen again but I'm not DT1 again.

Very nice. Proof that at least in some cases the system works as intended by weeding out some users with poor judgement.

This is not democracy, not even the election, the choice of the elites! Any group with strong communication and tight interaction in the forum can do this. it may happen to you in the future. disrespect not only me but also those who chose me ...

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January 04, 2020, 06:01:21 AM
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This is not democracy, not even the election, the choice of the elites! Any group with strong communication and tight interaction in the forum can do this. it may happen to you in the future. disrespect not only me but also those who chose me ...

You mean like the group of Turkish users who use their DT1 privileges for retaliatory purposes?

There are 100 users in DT. You managed to get to a -8 vote balance in less than a month. You might need to stop for a minute and consider that you might be doing something wrong.

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okay I don't think they'll change the rule anyway. but this is a complete strategy game. crowded communities of different nationalities in the future can take over this system very easily. then you do not cry! though then I'm sure you will change the rule. 51% is a good figure, think about it. would be compatible with "bitcoin"talk, pure majority...

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I'd like to see the "provably fair" details for this lottery.

I'm not suggesting any kind of favoritism, but it would be nice to show more stats than just "Vod has been on DT1 70% of the time.".

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     12 TheFuzzStone
     12 Mitchell
     12 LoyceV
     12 Lesbian Cow
     12 Lafu
     12 Jet Cash
     12 Cyrus
     11 yahoo62278
     11 tmfp
     11 theymos
     11 taikuri13
     11 philipma1957
     11 krogothmanhattan
     11 hybridsole
     11 gmaxwell
     11 bL4nkcode
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     11 actmyname
     11 achow101
     11 Welsh
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     11 TECSHARE
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     11 HostFat
     11 Coolcryptovator
     11 Alex_Sr
     10 yogg
     10 xtraelv
     10 vizique
     10 suchmoon
     10 nutildah
     10 malevolent
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     10 WhiteManWhite
     10 Vod
     10 Veleor
     10 Ticked
     10 OgNasty
     10 Kryptowerk
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     10 Dabs
     10 BitcoinPenny
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      9 willi9974
      9 morvillz7z
      9 monkeynuts
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      9 greenplastic
      9 dazedfool
      9 chimk
      9 The Pharmacist
      9 TMAN
      9 Rmcdermott927
      9 LFC_Bitcoin
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      9 DarkStar_
      8 theyoungmillionaire
      8 teeGUMES
      8 roycilik
      8 pandukelana2712
      8 micgoossens
      8 kzv
      8 ezeminer
      8 crwth
      8 buckrogers
      8 anonymousminer
      8 abhiseshakana
      8 MaoChao
      8 Gunthar
      8 DireWolfM14
      7 polymerbit
      7 mindrust
      7 lovesmayfamilis
      7 bones261
      7 SebastianJu
      7 Micio
      7 Flying Hellfish
      7 Anduck
      6 witcher_sense
      6 redsn0w
      6 phantastisch
      6 minerjones
      6 ibminer
      6 finaleshot2016
      6 fillippone
      6 by rallier
      6 bobita
      6 bavicrypto
      6 arulbero
      6 TookDk
      6 ICOEthics
      6 Hhampuz
      5 babo
      5 Lydian
      5 Lauda
      5 Halab
      5 EcuaMobi
      4 mole0815
      4 dooglus
      4 bill gator
      4 asu
      4 Vispilio
      4 TalkStar
      4 Silent26
      4 JollyGood
      4 DIKUL
      4 CanaryInTheMine
      3 wolwoo
      3 tvplus006
      3 madnessteat
      3 kenzawak
      3 ekiller
      3 Piggy
      3 PHI1618
      3 JayJuanGee
      3 Goran_
      3 AlyattesLydia
      3 Ale88
      2 peloso
      2 otto_diesel
      2 mosprognoz
      2 mhanbostanci
      2 klarki
      2 hedgy73
      2 gospodin
      2 eddie13
      2 bob123
      2 be.open
      2 TryNinja
      2 Timelord2067
      2 Matthias9515
      2 Last of the V8s
      2 JohnUser
      2 DiamondCardz
      2 Blazed
      1 yxt
      1 sheenshane
      1 mikeywith
      1 johhnyUA
      1 fronti
      1 duesoldi
      1 dkbit98
      1 digicoinuser
      1 cabalism13
      1 Tomatocage
      1 Ratimov
      1 Kalemder
      1 Hellmouth42
      1 CryptopreneurBrainboss
      1 Blacknavy
      1 3meek
15 users have never lost theymos' DT1 lottery.



Allow me to add links to your quote again:
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    1. Administrator theymos (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
    2. Donator OgNasty (Trust: +64 / =2 / -5) (BPIP)
    3. Legendary Anduck (Trust: +17 / =2 / -1) (BPIP)
    4. Legendary fronti (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
    5. Legendary DiamondCardz (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
    6. Staff Welsh (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
    7. Legendary by rallier (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)
    8. Legendary greenplastic (Trust: +38 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
    9. Hero Member Lydian (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   10. Legendary buckrogers (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   11. Copper Member minerjones (Trust: +91 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   12. Legendary tmfp (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   13. Legendary zazarb (Trust: +25 / =0 / -1) (BPIP)
   14. Legendary digicoinuser (Trust: +33 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
   15. Legendary MaoChao (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   16. Legendary The Pharmacist (Trust: +24 / =2 / -0) (BPIP)
   17. Legendary asu (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
   18. Sr. Member polymerbit (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   19. Hero Member duesoldi (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   20. Hero Member be.open (Trust: +0 / =2 / -6) (BPIP)
   21. Hero Member AlyattesLydia (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)
   22. Hero Member roycilik (Trust: +6 / =2 / -0) (BPIP)
   23. Hero Member PHI1618 (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -1) (BPIP)
   24. Sr. Member 3meek (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (BPIP)
   25. Hero Member chimk (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   26. Hero Member witcher_sense (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   27. Hero Member asche (Trust: +7 / =2 / -0) (BPIP)
   28. Hero Member cabalism13 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   29. Copper Member Coolcryptovator (Trust: +12 / =2 / -0) (BPIP)

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    1. Legendary SebastianJu (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
    2. Legendary yxt (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
    3. Legendary Vod (Trust: +31 / =2 / -1) (BPIP)
    4. Legendary Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
    5. Legendary babo (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
   6. Staff Flying Hellfish (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   7. Staff dbshck (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   8. Legendary arulbero (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   9. Legendary mindrust (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)
   10. Legendary suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   11. Legendary yahoo62278 (Trust: +18 / =2 / -0) (BPIP)
   12. Legendary ezeminer (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   13. Legendary bob123 (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)
   14. Legendary johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (BPIP)
   15. Hero Member ekiller (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   16. Hero Member Gunthar (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   17. Hero Member finaleshot2016 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   18. Hero Member krogothmanhattan (Trust: +63 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
   19. Hero Member Goran_ (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   20. Hero Member CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   21. Hero Member sheenshane (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
   22. Hero Member tvplus006 (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   23. Hero Member dkbit98 (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
   24. Hero Member DdmrDdmr (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
   25. Hero Member fillippone (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (BPIP)
   26. Hero Member taikuri13 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   27. Hero Member madnessteat (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   28. Hero Member 1miau (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)
   29. Full Member Ratimov (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (BPIP)



I'd like to see the "provably fair" details for this lottery.

I'm not suggesting any kind of favoritism
Just some random statistic: 60% of the users who never lost the DT1-lottery have at "L" in their username, vs. less than 38% of the users who lost the lottery at least once.

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January 04, 2020, 11:23:32 AM
 #2036

I see your maximum months is 12, while mine is 11.
I am an embarrassment to myself.

I used this post from Theymos as starting point, and I used only the new one as thought the old one was selected with the “old” criteria.

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January 04, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
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Just some random statistic: 60% of the users who never lost the DT1-lottery have at "L" in their username, vs. less than 38% of the users who lost the lottery at least once.
Users with >1 underscore in their name have never lost the DT1 lottery.

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January 04, 2020, 11:58:20 AM
 #2038

Just some random statistic: 60% of the users who never lost the DT1-lottery have at "L" in their username, vs. less than 38% of the users who lost the lottery at least once.
Users with >1 underscore in their name have never lost the DT1 lottery.
Now rebranding as fi__ippone.

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January 04, 2020, 12:21:18 PM
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Just some random statistic: 60% of the users who never lost the DT1-lottery have at "L" in their username, vs. less than 38% of the users who lost the lottery at least once.
Users with >1 underscore in their name have never lost the DT1 lottery.
Now rebranding as fi__ippone.

Why not fi_l_l_ippone ? Double trouble.

I am surprised, theymos left DT on his own. I mean, not that it would have a huge difference in the forum whether if he was in or not.

Also... Welsh, good luck next month.
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January 04, 2020, 12:34:38 PM
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I am surprised, theymos left DT on his own.
He's still DT2:
DT 2
     3. 35: theymos (Trust: +32 / =2 / -0) (6382 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
It's nice to see theymos tries to blend in with us mortal users, by being subjected to the same random selection.
Of course, it's a total coincidence this happened the month after I put my money on theymos being the last one to lose the DT1-election Tongue

Should I create a poll just to see which one of these 15 users is going to last longest? Cheesy

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