DefaultTrust changes

[owlcatz]

I don't think I've lost yet either. not that I really care, but it's interesting.

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[DaveF]

<-Sigh->
I have posted something along these lines several times, but looking around I think I have to say it again.
The current trust / feedback system works to a point, but since there is no separation between trade trust and regular trust there is always going to be a bunch of unhappy people.

I can be an ass who pisses people off and trolls all day.
That does not mean I am going to rip you off if you are buying something from me or selling something to me or having me do a task for you.

There are several people on the marketplace that have some negative feedback / trust that has nothing to do with trading & sales.
You can promote the YoBit scam, think BitcoinSV is the real Bitcoin, and whatever else. Does not mean that if I sent you $500 via PayPal that you are not going to send me the BTC we agreed upon.

Or to put it as another (motorcycle) forum owner put it.

If you send Bob $200 to tune up your bike and he came to your house and tuned up your bike then he gets positive trade trust.
If while he was there he has sex with your wife IT DOES NOT MATTER. That has nothing to do with trade trust. That is a feedback issue.

Now, you might not want to deal with them because they are an asshat, but if you do you can at least be reasonably sure that you are going to get what you asked for delivered.

Since we do not have separate trade trust and regular trust (feedback), we tend to keep looping back to the issues on this thread.

-Dave
 

[suchmoon]

DT1 update - sorry about the non-linky format, I'm sure someone will post a better one soon.


Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image

[Lafu]

Out of DT1 :

Code:

HostFat
SebastianJu
malevolent
Dabs
TheNewAnon135246
hilariousandco
cryptodevil
JayJuanGee
Rmcdermott927
ezeminer
WhiteManWhite
LeGaulois
Micio
bob123
eddie13
Gunthar
otto_diesel
wolwoo
Goran_
El duderino_
mosprognoz
bavicrypto
pandukelana2712
tvplus006
DdmrDdmr
Alex_Sr

New in in DT1 :

Code:

theymos
OgNasty
Anduck 
fronti
Welsh
TMAN
jeremypwr
greenplastic
Yaremi
tmfp
Royse777
SyGambler
The Pharmacist
asu
johhnyUA
Yatsan
xtraelv
roycilik
KTChampions 
Smartprofit 
Coin-1
3meek
gospodin
witcher_sense
asche 
DIKUL
zasad@ 

Should be good , if im wrong sry and i will edit it !

[LoyceMobile]

I'm surprised how much the number of inclusions charges depending on who's randomly selected.

I'll dump some links to users on DT1 tomorrow.

[fillippone]

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Should be good , if im wrong sry and i will edit it !

Out of DT1 :

Code:

Micio

[Lafu]

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Thanks and is edited.

[asu]

Removed:

Code:

vizique
Ticked
teeGUMES
owlcatz
johhnyUA

Added:

Code:

minerjones
zazarb
cabalism13

Also: johhnyUA aren't new in DT1.

[fillippone]

And what a strange bunch we are.

We should have a pool: who's going to be the last (wo)man standing? 20 now, 16 next month, then 13, 10, ... and at some point 2 years from now the last DT1 who never lost will lose his spot for the first time.
I put my money on theymos

Theymos is out    

Who's in?
These users have never been excluded from DT1 (number of DT1 inclusions since March 2019)

Code:

coinlocket$        13
Cyrus              13
Jet Cash           13
Lafu               13
Lesbian Cow        13
LoyceV             13
Mitchell           13
mprep              13
o_e_l_e_o          13
owlcatz            13
qwk                13
sapta              13
TheFuzzStone       13

I used this list to count, not mine.

The count is down to 13!

First time Exclusions:

Code:

cryptodevil
hilariousandco

[LoyceV]

Should be good , if im wrong sry and i will edit it !

I'll share my code to find them. It works on a Linux terminal and requires 2 files: old.txt and new.txt:

Code:

comm -23 <(cat old.txt | sort) <(cat new.txt | sort) # removed users
Alex_Sr
Dabs
DdmrDdmr
El duderino_
Goran_
Gunthar
HostFat
JayJuanGee
LeGaulois
Micio
Rmcdermott927
SebastianJu
TheNewAnon135246
Ticked
WhiteManWhite
bavicrypto
bob123
cryptodevil
eddie13
ezeminer
hilariousandco
malevolent
mosprognoz
otto_diesel
pandukelana2712
teeGUMES
tvplus006
vizique
wolwoo

Code:

comm -13 <(cat old.txt | sort) <(cat new.txt | sort) # new users
3meek
Anduck
Coin-1
DIKUL
KTChampions
OgNasty
Royse777
Smartprofit
SyGambler
TMAN
The Pharmacist
Welsh
Yaremi
Yatsan
asche
asu
cabalism13
fronti
gospodin
greenplastic
jeremypwr
minerjones
roycilik
theymos
tmfp
witcher_sense
xtraelv
zasad@
zazarb

First time Exclusions:

Code:

cryptodevil
hilariousandco

And now there are only 13 left:

Code:

     13 sapta
     13 qwk
     13 owlcatz
     13 o_e_l_e_o
     13 mprep
     13 coinlocket$
     13 TheFuzzStone
     13 Mitchell
     13 LoyceV
     13 Lesbian Cow
     13 Lafu
     13 Jet Cash
     13 Cyrus

(still no poll?)

The following DT1 members are currently not excluded:

Note that the Trust ratings in this post are still based on last week's data.

DT 1
    1. 35: theymos (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (6476 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    2. 11425: gmaxwell (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 2193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    3. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +62 / =2 / -5) (758 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    4. 23810: yxt (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    5. 24140: qwk (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (22) 1401 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    6. 30747: Vod (Trust: +30 / =2 / -1) (DT1! (21) 1411 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    7. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +17 / =2 / -1) (55 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    8. 34692: fronti (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (183 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    9. 51173: mprep (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 496 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   10. 55384: Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 844 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   11. 64507: philipma1957 (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1114 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   12. 65636: babo (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 382 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   13. 78147: Cyrus (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 129 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   14. 79608: Flying Hellfish (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 728 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   15. 81962: monkeynuts (Trust: +27 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (15) 258 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   16. 84521: Welsh (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (882 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   17. 84866: ibminer (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 636 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   18. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (1236 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   19. 113670: Mitchell (Trust: +37 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (30) 478 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   20. 137185: jeremypwr (Trust: +14 / =2 / -1) (240 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   21. 140827: yogg (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 1146 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   22. 153634: dbshck (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 330 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   23. 158444: hybridsole (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 266 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   24. 160943: greenplastic (Trust: +38 / =0 / -0) (107 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   25. 170072: arulbero (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 496 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   26. 175302: Avirunes (Trust: +11 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (6) 277 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   27. 206143: Lesbian Cow (Trust: +39 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 555 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   28. 234771: suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (41) 3617 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   29. 290159: Yaremi (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (58 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   30. 290195: achow101 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 2049 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   31. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +40 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (23) 260 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   32. 317618: nutildah (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 1695 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   33. 327499: dazedfool (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 124 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   34. 346731: minerjones (Trust: +93 / =0 / -0) (1045 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   35. 347141: sapta (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 180 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   36. 351569: tmfp (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (611 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   37. 352429: BitcoinPenny (Trust: +38 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 659 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   38. 355846: yahoo62278 (Trust: +20 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (14) 1210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   39. 366632: Royse777 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (626 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   40. 379487: LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 1600 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   41. 405889: SyGambler (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (523 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   42. 407174: klarki (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 157 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   43. 459836: LoyceV (Trust: +25 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (50) 4647 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   44. 465017: actmyname (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 869 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   45. 487418: The Pharmacist (Trust: +24 / =2 / -0) (2321 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   46. 519783: asu (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (596 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   47. 557798: TryNinja (Trust:  neutral) (DT1! (2) 1293 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   48. 662400: kzv (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 656 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   49. 679341: TheFuzzStone (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 827 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   50. 698159: Jet Cash (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1356 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   51. 765632: bL4nkcode (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 362 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   52. 805820: Lafu (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 832 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   53. 857883: Yatsan (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (519 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   54. 888099: finaleshot2016 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 643 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   55. 897509: xtraelv (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1460 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   56. 914465: crwth (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 499 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   57. 949248: Kryptowerk (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 533 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   58. 1000199: krogothmanhattan (Trust: +63 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (21) 1377 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   59. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 454 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   60. 1051955: roycilik (Trust: +6 / =2 / -0) (1268 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   61. 1052091: CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1026 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   62. 1097370: KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (601 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   63. 1133335: Coin-1 (Trust:  neutral) (712 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   64. 1177936: Veleor (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 1330 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   65. 1179651: sheenshane (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (1) 631 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   66. 1188543: o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 3370 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   67. 1291828: iasenko (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1567 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   68. 1339358: gospodin (Trust:  neutral) (562 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   69. 1339716: coinlocket$ (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 1170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   70. 1410401: dkbit98 (Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (6) 672 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   71. 1424178: mole0815 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 949 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   72. 1433865: witcher_sense (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (1109 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   73. 1580039: asche (Trust: +7 / =2 / -0) (941 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   74. 1605387: cabalism13 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (765 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   75. 1668017: anonymousminer (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 609 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   76. 1825672: morvillz7z (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1157 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   77. 1852120: fillippone (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 2325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   78. 1855828: taikuri13 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1143 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   79. 1878246: abhiseshakana (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1580 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   80. 1894120: madnessteat (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 876 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   81. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 1084 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   82. 2003859: DireWolfM14 (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1312 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   83. 2136362: TalkStar (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 515 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   84. 2143453: 1miau (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1830 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   85. 2148411: DIKUL (Trust:  neutral) (146 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   86. 2627711: Ratimov (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 785 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   87. 2654005: zasad@ (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (668 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[suchmoon]

Oh FFS...

  241. 392914: alevlaslo (Trust: +0 / =2 / -7) (81 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

That's a DT2 member despite getting a bunch of red trust for trying to scam 100 BTC here: https://archive.is/QG1AJ

[LoyceMobile]

Oh FFS...

  241. 392914: alevlaslo (Trust: +0 / =2 / -7) (81 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

That's a DT2 member despite getting a bunch of red trust for trying to scam 100 BTC here: https://archive.is/QG1AJ

I quickly checked the list, but overlooked this one and was called away before I could check more.

Mindrust has some editing to do.
Sorry, I misread my own date!

[hacker1001101001]

Oh FFS...

  241. 392914: alevlaslo (Trust: +0 / =2 / -7) (81 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

That's a DT2 member despite getting a bunch of red trust for trying to scam 100 BTC here: https://archive.is/QG1AJ

I quickly checked the list, but overlooked this one and was called away before I could check more.

Mindrust has some editing to do.

Mindrust doesn't seem to be including alevlaslo rather excluding him. This should not make the user in question a DT2. Could there be something wrong in scrapping the data ?

[suchmoon]

Mindrust has some editing to do.

Mindrust doesn't seem to be including alevlaslo rather excluding him. This should not make the user in question a DT2. Could there be something wrong in scrapping the data ?

There is no scraping problem, Loyce probably looked at the wrong list.

A new DT1 member (Yaremi) is including alevlaslo and some other questionable individuals.

http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h/290159.html

[Yaremi]

Mindrust has some editing to do.

Mindrust doesn't seem to be including alevlaslo rather excluding him. This should not make the user in question a DT2. Could there be something wrong in scrapping the data ?

There is no scraping problem, Loyce probably looked at the wrong list.

A new DT1 member (Yaremi) is including alevlaslo and some other questionable individuals.

http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h/290159.html

Hello.

alevlaslo and be.open has been removed. Thanks for information.

[LoyceV]

Mindrust doesn't seem to be including alevlaslo rather excluding him.

Sorry, I read my own data the wrong way on mobile.

Could there be something wrong in scrapping the data ?

I don't think so.

A new DT1 member (Yaremi) is including alevlaslo and some other questionable individuals.

http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h/290159.html

And that's how he went from +1 to +9! I haven't had the time to make a list of DT2-members who are only included by one DT1 member, that would be good to highlight those.

alevlaslo and be.open has been removed. Thanks for information.

You should probably review your entire list, last December you added 85 users to your Trust list. This largely explains why there are now 58 more DT2 members than yesterday.

Many of the users you added to your Trust list were also added by others in the same week, which makes it look like a big Trust circle. We've seen this before on local boards, and although I appreciate promoting custom Trust lists, being on DT1 means you should have higher standards. You can't possibly trust someone's judgement when that user hasn't left any feedback.

[TMAN]

alevlaslo and be.open has been removed. Thanks for information.

good man, please can you revise your whole trust list? people without many ratings don't have any business being on DT - are you aware of the difference between your trustlist and people who you would trust trading with?

[suchmoon]

alevlaslo and be.open has been removed. Thanks for information.

Could you please review your whole list. There are some other users in it that don't seem to be fit for DT2.

[Yaremi]

Removed all. 

I understand you. i need to learn this trust system before using it.

[LoyceMobile]

Removed all.  

I understand you. i need to learn this trust system before using it.

Please read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0 (scroll down for translations), it's my beginners guide for correct use of the Trust system.

Once you're confident, please create a new Trust list. You seem to have the right mind set to learn, which is appreciated.