shawn2025
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February 13, 2015, 09:20:05 AM |
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Same deal here! I think I have everything in it's right place. I'd love to get this rolling and try it out, but it's getting frustrating. 10.7.5 2.3ghz Intel Thanks! /s/ Hello.. anybody out there? |
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Wanesst
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February 13, 2015, 09:51:01 AM
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Same deal here! I think I have everything in it's right place. I'd love to get this rolling and try it out, but it's getting frustrating. 10.7.5 2.3ghz Intel Thanks! /s/ Hello.. anybody out there? As far as I know, the software supports only the versions OSX 10.9 and higher. |
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voluntaryistonly
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February 13, 2015, 01:29:32 PM |
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As far as I know, the software supports only the versions OSX 10.9 and higher. thanks for that but i am on 10.9.5 mavericks ....  does it need xcode tools installed, if so, i can do that... |
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voluntaryistonly
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February 15, 2015, 11:43:03 AM |
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UPDATE: still no fix for this I have installed gcc + etc... tried again, still no joy, any help please,? thanx ;-) regards,vo |
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bytemuma
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February 15, 2015, 10:00:14 PM |
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Why should i invest my processing power and/or my money into this currency?
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DStrange (OP)
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February 16, 2015, 12:09:22 PM |
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Bytecoin Community Website Update: Share Your IdeasHi, guys! Bytecoin Community has grown considerably since 2012 and since bytecoiner.org launch. Now we have other goals and needs, that's why now it's time to update our favorite Bytecoin Community Website! We want to improve its usability, information presentation and placement of the most interesting and important items. Bytecoiner.org is a website working for you, so we need to hear your thoughts and ideas how to make it better. Please, drop us a line to info@bytecoiner.org, contact me or Wanesst or use the contact form to express yourself. Thanks for being with us!
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jwinterm
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February 16, 2015, 12:31:05 PM |
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Bytecoin is now available on excoin.gq!
Register today and get 0.1 BTC free! From their website: Zero Fees
We have no commission on trades and withdraw. So they have zero fees on anything and they offer 0.1 BTC to sign up... They also misspelled 'repeat' as 'repeart' in the "Repeart password" field of their sign up form. Sounds about as legit as Bytecoin  |
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Wanesst
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February 16, 2015, 01:34:02 PM |
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As far as I know, the software supports only the versions OSX 10.9 and higher. thanks for that but i am on 10.9.5 mavericks .... does it need xcode tools installed, if so, i can do that... UPDATE: still no fix for this I have installed gcc + etc... tried again, still no joy, any help please,? thanx ;-) regards,vo Please send your question to support@bytecoin.org  |
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Wanesst
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February 16, 2015, 01:34:36 PM |
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tearsdontfall
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February 16, 2015, 09:04:14 PM |
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dev , bytecoin difficulty is getting high and high everyday but its price is always between .000009 to .000011 .... do something ... make the price high  |
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darthcoin
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February 17, 2015, 08:21:21 AM |
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dev , bytecoin difficulty is getting high and high everyday but its price is always between .000009 to .000011 .... do something ... make the price high Maybe devs want to make market drive the price without any influence! |
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cryptrol
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February 17, 2015, 08:39:42 AM |
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Today I found an interesting blog entry about the Bitmonero launch and the initial slow hash version of the miner that came from Bytecoin. Quite interesting to know how a few made a killing from private optimizations in the Bitmonero mining for months where more than the 50% of the network. http://da-data.blogspot.com.es/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.htmlThis only reinforces my opinion that there few to none fair launchs in the cryptocoin world. I don't follow Bitmonero thread and this may be a very old story but thought someone in the Bytecoin community could be interested. |
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sgk
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!! HODL !!
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February 17, 2015, 09:14:50 AM |
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Today I found an interesting blog entry about the Bitmonero launch and the initial slow hash version of the miner that came from Bytecoin. Quite interesting to know how a few made a killing from private optimizations in the Bitmonero mining for months where more than the 50% of the network. http://da-data.blogspot.com.es/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.htmlThis only reinforces my opinion that there few to none fair launchs in the cryptocoin world. I don't follow Bitmonero thread and this may be a very old story but thought someone in the Bytecoin community could be interested. Wow... Someone was mining Monero with 100 times faster mining program than the rest of the miners? And controlled 60% of the network hash rate at some point?  |
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jwinterm
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February 17, 2015, 11:06:17 AM |
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Today I found an interesting blog entry about the Bitmonero launch and the initial slow hash version of the miner that came from Bytecoin. Quite interesting to know how a few made a killing from private optimizations in the Bitmonero mining for months where more than the 50% of the network. http://da-data.blogspot.com.es/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.htmlThis only reinforces my opinion that there few to none fair launchs in the cryptocoin world. I don't follow Bitmonero thread and this may be a very old story but thought someone in the Bytecoin community could be interested. Wow... Someone was mining Monero with 100 times faster mining program than the rest of the miners? And controlled 60% of the network hash rate at some point? Yes, the author of that article is a computer science professor at Carnegie Mellon Univ. In the article he accuses the original Bytecoin developers of intentionally crippling the wallet miner: The more I looked at it, the more clear it became: The original developers deliberately crippled the miner. It wasn't just slow, and it wasn't just naive; it was deliberately obfuscated and made slow by the use of completely superfluous copies, function calls, use of 8 bit pointer types, and accompanied by the most ridiculously slow implementation of the AES encryption algorithm one could imagine. Also faking an 80% premine by suggesting it was all done on the "darkweb": But when Bytecoin was released, it was presented as though it emerged from two years on the "dark web" (Tor onion sites and the like), during which time, 80% of the possible coins that could ever be minted, had been minted. The reception in the cryptocurrency community was heavily skeptical.
My strong belief is that the skepticism was warranted: Here's the original slow-hash from bytecoin as it was copied into Bitmonero. It has some doozies. For example, on line 100, you might note that for every iteration through an inner loop repeated tens of thousands of times, the AES key is re-imported into the library. The later loop, starting on line 113, is repeated half a million times, and is so abstracted through lots of memcpys and pointer manipulation it's hard to tell that all it really does is one round of AES encryption, a pointer dereference into a random scratchpad, a 64 bit multiplication, and another pointer dereference. Phew. This original code was roughly 50x slower than my final optimized code, and could have easily been used to fake two years of blockchain data on a single computer or a small cluster. I'm pretty sure that's what happened. |
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cryptrol
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February 17, 2015, 04:32:04 PM |
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Yes, the author of that article is a computer science professor at Carnegie Mellon Univ. In the article he accuses the original Bytecoin developers of intentionally crippling the wallet miner: The more I looked at it, the more clear it became: The original developers deliberately crippled the miner. It wasn't just slow, and it wasn't just naive; it was deliberately obfuscated and made slow by the use of completely superfluous copies, function calls, use of 8 bit pointer types, and accompanied by the most ridiculously slow implementation of the AES encryption algorithm one could imagine. Also faking an 80% premine by suggesting it was all done on the "darkweb": But when Bytecoin was released, it was presented as though it emerged from two years on the "dark web" (Tor onion sites and the like), during which time, 80% of the possible coins that could ever be minted, had been minted. The reception in the cryptocurrency community was heavily skeptical.
My strong belief is that the skepticism was warranted: Here's the original slow-hash from bytecoin as it was copied into Bitmonero. It has some doozies. For example, on line 100, you might note that for every iteration through an inner loop repeated tens of thousands of times, the AES key is re-imported into the library. The later loop, starting on line 113, is repeated half a million times, and is so abstracted through lots of memcpys and pointer manipulation it's hard to tell that all it really does is one round of AES encryption, a pointer dereference into a random scratchpad, a 64 bit multiplication, and another pointer dereference. Phew. This original code was roughly 50x slower than my final optimized code, and could have easily been used to fake two years of blockchain data on a single computer or a small cluster. I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Those facts are well known by the community, and yes, Bytecoin is shady as hell. What I didn't know about is that bitmonero copied the absurdly slow miner from bytecoin to it's codebase and then those shadow mining operations started controlling the majority of bitmonero hashrate for months, and that's what got my attention from the blog post (which I found randomly). |
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smooth
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February 17, 2015, 08:53:50 PM
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Those facts are well known by the community, and yes, Bytecoin is shady as hell. What I didn't know about is that bitmonero copied the absurdly slow miner from bytecoin to it's codebase and then those shadow mining operations started controlling the majority of bitmonero hashrate for months, and that's what got my attention from the blog post (which I found randomly).
The people who controlled a lot of the hash rate for a few months spent a huge amount of money (I'm told upwards of 100 000 USD per month) to do it. They achieved a 100x speedup overall, but they never had a 100x miner compared to the public miner at the time. If you read the post, even from the very start of their effort "a developer had already started trickling optimizations into the codebase" and that continued with more optimizations being developed and pushed to github by the Monero core team every few weeks (you can go see this yourself in github). If anyone had a highly optimized miner from the start it was the bytecoin/cryptonote scammers who launched "bitmonero" (before being outed as scammers and shown the door by the community). After all, they are the ones who deliberately slowed down the public miner code in the first place. |
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Wanesst
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February 19, 2015, 01:34:05 PM |
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I propose to think about the community site improvement  Bytecoin Community Website Update: Share Your IdeasHi, guys! Bytecoin Community has grown considerably since 2012 and since bytecoiner.org launch. Now we have other goals and needs, that's why now it's time to update our favorite Bytecoin Community Website! We want to improve its usability, information presentation and placement of the most interesting and important items. Bytecoiner.org is a website working for you, so we need to hear your thoughts and ideas how to make it better. Please, drop us a line to info@bytecoiner.org, contact me or Wanesst or use the contact form to express yourself. Thanks for being with us! |
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smic
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February 24, 2015, 09:49:17 PM |
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Hi guys, In the last hours bytecoin has diminished network hashrate. Welcome to new Official Pool bcn.8pool.dtdns.net Main page at: www.8pool.dtdns.netEnjoy! |
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