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August 03, 2015, 07:12:24 AM
Last edit: August 03, 2015, 07:32:39 AM by smooth
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This coin is very interesting. I see great things I can feel it. I will continue to support  Bytecoin. I see it being adopted one day its inevitable. Also, as many before me have stated, THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND BITCOINTALK FORUM! Other people/investors(with more money that KLONE, NASdaq and jwinterm combined) will be looking from the outside and not commenting here Wink

Those people know how to do due diligence, won't be interested in this mess either, and indeed most of those major investors employ or will employ domain experts who do most certainly know about and read or have read bitcointalk. And bitcointalk isn't even the point. Regardless of where the discussion goes, there will be people who will look at the history, the red flags, the fabrications and fraudulent claims, and reach the same conclusions.

That ridiculous story about big dumb investors coming to sink enormous sums of money into a coin without researching the history and is a standard shitcoin con job meant to rip off naive crypto investors: "We'll get mass adoption because no one cares what bitcointalk thinks. Buy now!!!"

Substitute BCN for Dash in this insightful post and the exact same principles apply:

Very quick diagnosis. The dash instamine matters because: even though BTC by all accounts had a fair launch, it still enjoys the label of ponzi by some in the media and still has yet to jump any mass adoption hurdles. What do you think this same media will do if dash were to make a play as BTC's replacement? Do you think a coin that looks, smells, and most importantly reads in Evan's own quotation marks as a fraud is going to be ushered to the throne without a massive media assault?  Because billionaires and governments like having their money replaced by a top heavy band of pseudo-cypherpunks with the moral compass of a fraternity next to a rohypnol factory. So yes, dash supporter, everyone is paid to get you, but ironically by your own hand. And if you think it is bad now, you have no idea of the shit storm that would be leveled at you if you even got a whiff of BTC's market cap.

If Evan had really wanted to replace BTC, he would have foreseen every thing I just outlined and realized there were only two options: 1. a fair relaunch or 2. admit it was an instamine and said "a dev has got to get paid how a dev has got to get paid". He didn't--he wanted the benefit of an instamine without the perception of greed, but didn't think far enough ahead to see his creation as a replacement for BTC and what the consequences of his actions would be if he ever truly got on the same playing field as BTC. The fact that his coin made it to the top five with this hanging over its head should be congratulations enough--the market rewarding his misplayed strategy with being the heir to Satoshi's kingdom is a pipe-dream wrapped in rainbows flecked with fairy dust.
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August 03, 2015, 07:17:55 AM
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How many coins remain for mining ?
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August 03, 2015, 07:19:08 AM
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How many coins remain for mining ?

Roughly 4.9% of the total.

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August 03, 2015, 07:24:15 AM
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I have edited a prior post ~ link is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.msg12032828#msg12032828

Unfortunately I'll have to bow out.  I don't wish to observe the next 50 to 100 pages of argumentation (or however many more are created in this thread).

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August 03, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
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This coin is very interesting. I see great things I can feel it. I will continue to support  Bytecoin. I see it being adopted one day its inevitable. Also, as many before me have stated, THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND BITCOINTALK FORUM! Other people/investors(with more money that KLONE, NASdaq and jwinterm combined) will be looking from the outside and not commenting here Wink


I am not your everyday crypto investor. I do other things and If you met me you would have no idea I knew a thing about Bitcoin. I dont know how to set up a mine rig etc....I have known about Bitcoin for years. I have made good money. I believe crypto is the future and many people are blind and stuck in their ways right now and dont see the failure that is the fiat money system which is in front of their eyes. They will see one day and Bitcoin will be the digital gold. Bytecoin will be the most commonly traded currency for every day items. I called it here first. I like Bytecoin. From an outsiders standpoint I dont care who/what made it. Also about the premine if whoever created this work of art wants to be compensated because if it that can all be debated. All I care about is the tech. Plain and simple. Tech always wins over story. Bitcoin proves that.

I see value here:


I can mine from my own wallet

Cool name / makes sense *megabytes , gigabytes.....BYTECOIN** ..easy for your "average joe" to get their heads around.


Nice amount of coins for the entire planet.


= Dont listen to FUD.

keep buying. more people than you possibly can imagine are watchin this crypto space right now.


and its only getting bigger. Smiley

The damage to the cause of mass crypto adoption if bytecoin were ever to succeed would be monumental. This is what concerns me, and that's what motivates me to keep following this thread. I support many coins, and I believe crypto is the future of money, but I definitely would never own or use a coin with BCN's history, no matter how good the cryptography and anon features are, and I'll tell you why. TRUST!

People need to trust that crypto money will hold its value, and as long as there's the whiff of scandal around a coin it makes it a bad store of wealth. Sure, the people that control the 82% premine can make the price anything they want now, but it's not real, because the vast majority of people who bother to look don't TRUST this coin. It's not about some people getting rich either ( I don't care that satoshi is rich on paper, he earnt it); it's about how Jo Sixpack feels about cheating, rip-offs, swindlers - he doesn't like them.

Remember these guys, Milli Vanilli? The notorious lip-synchers  from the late 80's?



Why did people drop them like a stone, the music was EXACTLY the same after people realised these guys didn't actually sing the songs, so why did their former fans hate them ... coz they didn't like being cheated, and that's why bytecoin will never fly.

People don't like cheats, and monero and other CN based coins offer the same tech. If BCN did gain mass user numbers, eventually people would find out about the scam, and just like Milli Vanilli, this coin would die, BUT, the damage done to ALL coins might damage bitcoin and all other coins for years. I think that's why people on this forum will keep kicking this issue down the road. I don't want to see my investment in crypto damaged by the repercussions of "crypto currencies are all scams", and that's the inevitable end that we'd get if bytecoin made it out of the cryptoshere.
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August 03, 2015, 07:58:49 AM
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I have edited a prior post ~ link is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.msg12032828#msg12032828

Unfortunately I'll have to bow out.  I don't wish to observe the next 50 to 100 pages of argumentation (or however many more are created in this thread).

Best wishes,

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Before you go why not address the issue? This coin had either:

A- 82% ninja mine
B- 82% scam mine & fabricated backstory and blockchain

If you can explain and convince people they don't matter you'll win the argument.
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August 03, 2015, 08:28:21 AM
Last edit: August 03, 2015, 08:54:34 AM by child_harold
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@Monero

I refer to you as a Churh because in the absence of evidence or proof it is only the strength of your convictions and faith which holds you resolute in your beliefs (The Monero View of the World. )

I am unswayed by your Religion and remain open-minded on the subject of Bytecoin: its past, present and future.

Now could all u little Monero trolls please fucky offy?

Else I'll come into your Church and kick up such a shitstorm that by the end nobody will have any respect for your bigoted, presumptuous, condescending, conceited and unapologetically disrespectful community. The BCN devs owe you nothing, you guys dont have shit on BCN and your tech is pants in comparison. Take your nothing evidence and and insert it smoothly where the sun dont shine. Go take care of your own.


It's unbelievable the amount of time people waste arguing about this crap, especially haters.  Either support the coin and see it for what it is, or leave.  You aren't saving anyone and there is nobody to be saved.   See the value of the coin or don't--that's it...stop wasting your time here.  Monero is BS anyways.  Arguing here isn't going to help its cause.

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August 03, 2015, 08:36:33 AM
Last edit: August 03, 2015, 09:12:41 AM by iCEBREAKER
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This coin had either:

A- 82% ninja mine
B- 82% scam mine & fabricated backstory and blockchain

If you can explain and convince people they don't matter you'll win the argument.

If Darkcoin/Dash can get away with a 50% pre/insta-mine, why not push the envelope and go for 82%?

Besides, maybe the creator(s) of BCN didn't want the attention Satoshi receives and szabotaged the first-implementation-as-protocol, while retaining the mysterious origin's appeal and promulgating the technology.



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I am unswayed by your Religion and remain open-minded on the subject of Bytecoin: its past, present and future.

I'm glad you are open minded and therefore consider the very real possibility that could just be a fraud the way virtually every mentally-well-functioning observer believes it to be.

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Now could all u little Monero trolls please fucky offy?

No, we're not going to see fraud and not shout fraud.

As long as they continue to push their story, fishy at best and fraudulent at worst, I can promise you that I will present the other side (although, in reality, to most intelligent people with any common sense at all, there is only one side here).

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Else I'll come into your Church and kick up such a shitstorm that by the end nobody will have any respect for your bigoted, presumptuous, condescending, conceited and unapologetically disrespectful community. The BCN devs owe you nothing, you guys dont have shit on BCN and your tech is pants in comparison. Take your nothing evidence and and insert it smoothly where the sun dont shine. Go take care of your own.

Threat of retaliatory trolling noted (and quoted), so we can and will report you for trolling if necessary.

3. No trolling.
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August 03, 2015, 12:39:21 PM
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I am unswayed by your Religion and remain open-minded on the subject of Bytecoin: its past, present and future.

I'm glad you are open minded and therefore consider the very real possibility that could just be a fraud the way virtually every mentally-well-functioning observer believes it to be.

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Now could all u little Monero trolls please fucky offy?

No, we're not going to see fraud and not shout fraud.

As long as they continue to push their story, fishy at best and fraudulent at worst, I can promise you that I will present the other side (although, in reality, to most intelligent people with any common sense at all, there is only one side here).

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Else I'll come into your Church and kick up such a shitstorm that by the end nobody will have any respect for your bigoted, presumptuous, condescending, conceited and unapologetically disrespectful community. The BCN devs owe you nothing, you guys dont have shit on BCN and your tech is pants in comparison. Take your nothing evidence and and insert it smoothly where the sun dont shine. Go take care of your own.

Threat of retaliatory trolling noted (and quoted), so we can and will report you for trolling if necessary.

3. No trolling.

You bang on and on shoving your unproven dogmatic theory bullshit down any open mouth you see and cast aspersions on guys that invented the first CN coin that you ripped off. YOU are the troll, not me.

If I should happen to pop into the Monero thread and express my feelings about your conceited and complacent community and its appauling conduct (which I am perfectly entitled to do) I cannot be held responsible for any furor that may or may not ensue.

I'll be just like you except without the slander, lies and bullshit which is pretty much the only thing propping up your coin.

Good Day Sir.

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August 03, 2015, 12:43:29 PM
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child_harold, the more aggressive you are against Monero, the more it hurts Bytecoin. If you are an honest BCN supporter, please refrain from further trolling. It is not doing any good for Bytecoin and all CryptoNotes.
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August 03, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
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Remember these guys, Milli Vanilli? The notorious lip-synchers  from the late 80's?



Why did people drop them like a stone, the music was EXACTLY the same after people realised these guys didn't actually sing the songs, so why did their former fans hate them ... coz they didn't like being cheated, and that's why bytecoin will never fly.

Milli Vanilli ...



child_harold is lip syncing in this thread
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August 03, 2015, 12:57:25 PM
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child_harold, the more aggressive you are against Monero, the more it hurts Bytecoin. If you are an honest BCN supporter, please refrain from further trolling. It is not doing any good for Bytecoin and all CryptoNotes.

Very well. Out of respect I will not pop into the Monero thread.

I am a BCN supporter and applaud the phenomenal crypto you have developed.
* child_harold wanders off to cool off

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August 03, 2015, 01:12:46 PM
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I haven't developed anything related to CryptoNote, so it's not correct addressing me as a BCN dev. I appreciate your support for Bytecoin, but making the bitcointalk community suffer from troll wars is not moving us any further.
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August 03, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
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This coin had either:

A- 82% ninja mine
B- 82% scam mine & fabricated backstory and blockchain

If you can explain and convince people they don't matter you'll win the argument.

If Darkcoin/Dash can get away with a 50% pre/insta-mine, why not push the envelope and go for 82%?

Besides, maybe the creator(s) of BCN didn't want the attention Satoshi receives and szabotaged the first-implementation-as-protocol, while retaining the mysterious origin's appeal and promulgating the technology.



Exactly.
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August 03, 2015, 05:35:57 PM
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Shadow Cash is number one.  Get with the times.  It was premined like Bytecoin (BCN) except we don't try to hide it and deceive people.
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August 03, 2015, 06:26:23 PM
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Anyway this is what dreams are made off. Massive buy support, little resistance on the way up.

http://i.imgur.com/73G65Lt.jpg
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August 04, 2015, 01:23:33 AM
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If I did my math correctly I believe the BCN supply will be dry in the next 10 years Huh
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August 04, 2015, 03:07:24 AM
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Which users on this forum are bcn developers? Do they ever speak?
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Which users on this forum are bcn developers? Do they ever speak?

Ullo is one and yes he does post.
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