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Ferguson - Gaethje. I have a feeling that Gaethje has no chances, Ferguson is very hungry for fights. In a fight you need to give an opportunity for everyone and Gaethje has never been in a lazy fight and it will be interesting till one falls. Gaethje looks so cute with hidden smile on the picture, I would never believe is a fighter (not looking on his nose). I think Ferguson is so tired without fights, that he will tear to parts anyone, even people heavier that he. Ngannou - Rozenstruik. I'm so much waiting for this fight. Cameroonian-French fighter gonna behead Rozenstuik, I thing they are on different leve. It is not that easy as you think, Jairzinho Rozenstruik is a world class striker with an extensive background in kickboxing with 64 knockouts and so is the reason i am really interested in this fight as i am not expecting this fight going the distance. 64 knouckouts is a lot, be he had only 4 fights in ufc. Two of this two fights were against very low rank opponents, one with crystal chin and only one fight agains top fighter. Who knows who were this 64 unlucky fighters, maybe total no names And take a look on Ngannou opponents. On the paper he is a 100% winner so far
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Gaethje looks so cute with hidden smile on the picture, I would never believe is a fighter (not looking on his nose). I think Ferguson is so tired without fights, that he will tear to parts anyone, even people heavier that he. If Tony Ferguson can survive the early storm and avoid getting hit from Justin Gaethje then he will tire down in the second or third round and then Tony Ferguson will be able to submit him and that is the fight i am expecting as Tony Ferguson is a fighter who will not get tired and have stamina for many rounds. 64 knouckouts is a lot, be he had only 4 fights in ufc. Two of this two fights were against very low rank opponents, one with crystal chin and only one fight agains top fighter. Who knows who were this 64 unlucky fighters, maybe total no names And take a look on Ngannou opponents. On the paper he is a 100% winner so far The reason i highlighted the number of knockout victories is because the amount of fights he fought in his career and in the heavyweight division anyone can knock you down and i am sure Jairzinho Rozenstruik has seen many fighters that will not surprise him all of a sudden and if you have seen his fight against Alistair Overeem he was patient enough to wait till the last rounds to knock him out as he was aware that if the fight goes to the judges it would be a close fight, what i am trying to tell is that it will not be an easy fight for Francis Ngannou.
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^ But the thing with Ferguson is he always gets hit. And his chin hasn't really been tested from what I've seen of him. There was that fight with Pettis tho when he got a wee bit wobbly... But then Ferguson started doing tumble flips. Lawl.
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But watch the fight again. Masvidal owned him. Diaz had no chance and I don't think there has to be a rematch.
Anyway... 249's main card is looking good! If it's happening. *fingers crossed*
Masvidal would have won that fight either way and there is no way Diaz would have won the fight and it was good that the doctor stopped the fight because these sort of doubts remain in some of the fans and if McGregor wants to have his trilogy against Nate Diaz it will be another huge pay day for them. The fight card looks good but two weeks to go and i doubt whether this fight card takes place as the situation is not better than last month and with millions of patients in the US alone will they allow them to proceed when all the other sports are halted indefinitely.
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Do I got it right, UFC249 was announced, but the venue is still unknown, and all still can be cancelled. Or UFC249 will take place on a mystery island, that was talked about on last pages?
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Petr Yan will clearly not be happy with Dana for the Dominator to be given the next chance to challenge Henry Cejudo. Dominick has not been in the octagon for 3 years, I reckon.
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Do I got it right, UFC249 was announced, but the venue is still unknown, and all still can be cancelled. Or UFC249 will take place on a mystery island, that was talked about on last pages? Petr Yan will clearly not be happy with Dana for the Dominator to be given the next chance to challenge Henry Cejudo. Dominick has not been in the octagon for 3 years, I reckon. @Toptort777 the event is confirmed and will be taking place in Vystar Veterans Memorial Arena, and is closed to the public as per their official announcement. Further whom are you’ll placing your bets on as after quiet a while we’re getting a chance to gamble on sports like this, and I’m spoiled for choices so any recommendations would help a lot. Source: https://www.ufc.com/news/official-statement-ufc-249-may-9-gaethje-ferguson-ngannou-cejudo
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@Toptort777 the event is confirmed and will be taking place in Vystar Veterans Memorial Arena, and is closed to the public as per their official announcement.
At last it was official! I can now watch fresh MMA fights once again . It's been a while since the last time I watched, I missed it a lot lol. I just hope there will be no future problems encountered thus resulting for another postponement because I don't know what to feel already just in case it may not happen. Props to Dana fot pursuing all the stuff. The old saying is right, "If there's a will then there's a way". Look, meanwhile in Cambodia (I am not sure if it's legit tho).
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April 27, 2020, 06:28:01 AM |
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UFC 249 Odds- Tony Ferguson (-180) vs. Justin Gaethje (+155)
- Henry Cejudo (-240) vs. Dominick Cruz (+200)
- Francis Ngannou (-260) vs. Jairzinho Rozenstruik (+210)
- Calvin Kattar (-270) vs. Jeremy Stephens (+220)
- Anthony Pettis (-135) vs. Donald Cerrone (+115)
- Greg Hardy (-175) vs. Yorgan De Castro (+150)
- Fabricio Werdum (-300) vs. Aleksei Oleinik (+240)
- Jacare Souza (-125) vs. Uriah Hall (+105)
- Vicente Luque (-270) vs. Niko Price (+220)
- Bryce Mitchell (-180) vs. Charles Rosa (+155)
- Ryan Spann (-360) vs. Sam Alvey (+280)
- Carla Esparza (-150) vs. Michelle Waterson (+125)
I'm not expecting Cerrone to be the underdog. ~ The old saying is right, "If there's a will then there's a way". Look, meanwhile in Cambodia (I am not sure if it's legit tho). This boxing match took place in Nicaragua https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8258251/Coronavirus-Boxing-event-takes-place-Nicaragua-promotor-insists-boxers-need-eat.htmlAs discussed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243799.0
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Cowboy and Petis on the undercard? Either way, a surprisingly very good line up of fights assuming half of them don't drop out or it gets cancelled. I wonder what bouts Dana is trying to line up for the fight island because I would have expected some of these fights or fighters to end up there. Maybe we might see a big fight there after all... unless Dana is just going to go with fights in Florida now. Still really hoping he does the island thing as it's at least something different. No thanks . I'll never understand watching e-sports or VR games. Diaz only lost via Doctor stoppage. They should rematch that fight but Masvidal doesn't seem to want it even though it would be the right thing to do. I think the Diaz trilogy fight would be one of the biggest fights McGregor could take right now outside of a Khabib rematch but there's more chance of the Diaz match happening since Khabib doesn't seem in any rush to fight him again, though money talks.
Nate Diaz lost the fight because of doctor stoppage because he was getting beaten badly as Jorge Masvidal was dominating the fight and even one judge scored two rounds 10 to 8 which shows how dominant Jorge Masvidal was in the fight and the rematch will not make any sense as Jorge Masvidal is waiting for his title fight and Nate Diaz is not even in the title picture and as you said McGregor and Nate should fight for their trilogy as i do not see McGregor getting a rematch with Khabib anytime soon. Nate Diaz's face get's busted up easily by anyone. I can't remember who did what in the fight but all it takes is one punch or kick for the tables to be turned. Diaz was willing to fight on and the guy is an animal and the Drs stoppage is an easy way out which isn't a fair win IMO. This is what Diaz looks like when he wins and he still could have managed a choke if he was allowed to carry on:
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Look, meanwhile in Cambodia (I am not sure if it's legit tho). 100% this wont be allowed in ufc or other sport where fighters wrestle, because it will be simply useless when opponent can just slip out. But, I admit something like that should be done before the fight.
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Nate Diaz's face get's busted up easily by anyone. I can't remember who did what in the fight but all it takes is one punch or kick for the tables to be turned. Diaz was willing to fight on and the guy is an animal and the Drs stoppage is an easy way out which isn't a fair win IMO. This is what Diaz looks like when he wins and he still could have managed a choke if he was allowed to carry on: The stamina of Conor Mcgregor is well documented and the fight against Nate Diaz was the first time he was fighting at a higher weight division and he clearly underestimated Nate Diaz as he thought he would fall like the lower weight division fighters and when that did not happen he gassed out completely and he was scrambling to take down a ground specialist and presented his neck to get chocked out. There is no doubt about the heart of Nate Diaz but his eyes was completely shut down in the Jorge Masvidal fight. Here is the fight metric about the number of significant strikes landed in that fight. Jorge Masvidal landed 78 significant strikes to the head and he threw a total of 136 head shots Nate Diaz landed just 23 significant strikes to the head and he threw a total of 74 head shotsHere is the body shots count Jorge Masvidal landed 27 significant strikes to the body and he threw a total of 35 strikes to the body Nate Diaz landed just 12 significant strikes to the body and he threw a total of 21 strikes to the body The head strikes Nate Diaz took is the reason his eyes were swollen shut and to fight against Jorge Masvidal who is not tired nor taken much damange and Nate Diaz to fight without seeing the opponent is too dangerous as he could injure his eyes permanently, just remember the Michael Bisping situation as he lost his eye during a fight and he never regained that vision fully. It is a dangerous sports even though it is entertainment for the viewers and fans and hence i respect the doctors decision, if he fight was conducted elsewhere then the doctor would have approved carrying on with the fight, the rules in New York are a bit strict than the rest of the places because they have witnessed boxing deaths inside the ring and after those events they take these seriously. ^ But the thing with Ferguson is he always gets hit. And his chin hasn't really been tested from what I've seen of him. There was that fight with Pettis tho when he got a wee bit wobbly... But then Ferguson started doing tumble flips. Lawl. Justin Gaethje is the perfect opponent to test his chin, in almost all of the fights Tony Ferguson eat a lot of punches and people have taken him to the ground and the flip and roll when Pettis wobbled him and i have not seen anyone doing an imanari roll before when they are disoriented and that is why Tony is really unpredictable as you never know what he is going to do and somehow finds a way to win.
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Look, meanwhile in Cambodia (I am not sure if it's legit tho). 100% this wont be allowed in ufc or other sport where fighters wrestle, because it will be simply useless when opponent can just slip out. But, I admit something like that should be done before the fight. Did Dana White really have special power in doing such things? don't get me wrong I really love every fight to not be canceled but for the safety of all players and even the UFC's staff this pandemic should not be treated lightly, But if this is 100% a sure event then I think Trump is really into the economic venture of things amidst the threats of the COVID19. But what can I do if they would really let the UFC take flight into bringing a fight to the people that are hungry into betting sports again I am just sad because Khabib Nurmagomedov isn't the one fighting Tony Ferguson, but just a quick hunch I really think that Ferguson may win this fight.
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Diaz only lost via Doctor stoppage. They should rematch that fight but Masvidal doesn't seem to want it even though it would be the right thing to do. I think the Diaz trilogy fight would be one of the biggest fights McGregor could take right now outside of a Khabib rematch but there's more chance of the Diaz match happening since Khabib doesn't seem in any rush to fight him again, though money talks.
Nate Diaz lost the fight because of doctor stoppage because he was getting beaten badly as Jorge Masvidal was dominating the fight and even one judge scored two rounds 10 to 8 which shows how dominant Jorge Masvidal was in the fight and the rematch will not make any sense as Jorge Masvidal is waiting for his title fight and Nate Diaz is not even in the title picture and as you said McGregor and Nate should fight for their trilogy as i do not see McGregor getting a rematch with Khabib anytime soon. Nate Diaz's face get's busted up easily by anyone. I can't remember who did what in the fight but all it takes is one punch or kick for the tables to be turned. Diaz was willing to fight on and the guy is an animal and the Drs stoppage is an easy way out which isn't a fair win IMO. This is what Diaz looks like when he wins and he still could have managed a choke if he was allowed to carry on: I had the same reaction live. But then, watching the replay..? As much as I would've loooved to see the match go on, it was the right stoppage. Anyway here's another epic scrap between two legends! Nick Diaz vs Robbie Lawler at UFC 47https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5e1ncMKiUQ
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April 27, 2020, 11:37:45 PM |
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Did Dana White really have special power in doing such things? don't get me wrong I really love every fight to not be canceled but for the safety of all players and even the UFC's staff this pandemic should not be treated lightly, But if this is 100% a sure event then I think Trump is really into the economic venture of things amidst the threats of the COVID19. Everyone love to see the fights and i really want to see everything going to normal but it is taking a longer period of time than expected, Dana White is having close relation with Trump and it is possible that he could get the permission but with the elections coming up i doubt he will risk his reputation while the rest of the sporting events are halted. But what can I do if they would really let the UFC take flight into bringing a fight to the people that are hungry into betting sports again I am just sad because Khabib Nurmagomedov isn't the one fighting Tony Ferguson, but just a quick hunch I really think that Ferguson may win this fight.
Khabib and Tony is a wet dream for all the MMA fans for years and yet we are not able to watch the fight for some reason or the other, fifth time the fighters were ready but the virus was not ready to accommodate the fight .
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April 28, 2020, 01:59:30 AM |
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Everyone love to see the fights and i really want to see everything going to normal but it is taking a longer period of time than expected, Dana White is having close relation with Trump and it is possible that he could get the permission but with the elections coming up i doubt he will risk his reputation while the rest of the sporting events are halted.
As important regarding some events like these and in getting back with sports betting, I think the safety of many was the most priority of most President for now, but if Dana White and Donald Trump are as you say are close there is still possibility that he would give in to White's request especially if there is money involve and surely enough because of the crisis right now Trump would surely want the money he can get regarding the budget of the government. Khabib and Tony is a wet dream for all the MMA fans for years and yet we are not able to watch the fight for some reason or the other, fifth time the fighters were ready but the virus was not ready to accommodate the fight . There must be some kind of orb effect for Tony and Khabib that they are not destined to see each other in the ring, and if you would look at the records we can see that there are many fights that have been canceled so many times for some reason that I think we are used to this and if we would see another Tony and Khabib fight many would just say "HERE WE GO AGAIN!"
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April 28, 2020, 03:23:09 AM |
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Khabib and Tony is a wet dream for all the MMA fans for years and yet we are not able to watch the fight for some reason or the other, fifth time the fighters were ready but the virus was not ready to accommodate the fight . we are used to this and if we would see another Tony and Khabib fight many would just say "HERE WE GO AGAIN!" In simple words, Khabib vs Ferguson is soooo cursed (like what Cormier stated lol). It seems that the universe don't want them to fight inside the octagon. But despite of those annoying cancellations, I'm still hoping to watch them battling for glory. Yeah! This is a wet dream for all of us and it really s*cks but I wish Dana could do something in the near future. He must try and try until he succeed.
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April 28, 2020, 10:11:56 AM |
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The head strikes Nate Diaz took is the reason his eyes were swollen shut and to fight against Jorge Masvidal who is not tired nor taken much damange and Nate Diaz to fight without seeing the opponent is too dangerous as he could injure his eyes permanently, just remember the Michael Bisping situation as he lost his eye during a fight and he never regained that vision fully. It is a dangerous sports even though it is entertainment for the viewers and fans and hence i respect the doctors decision, if he fight was conducted elsewhere then the doctor would have approved carrying on with the fight, the rules in New York are a bit strict than the rest of the places because they have witnessed boxing deaths inside the ring and after those events they take these seriously.
I don't disagree with the stoppage, it's just not a fully fair win in my opinion even if Masvidal was winning or dominating. Masvidal should have at least given him the courtesy to finish the fight properly. If it was an easy and dominant win for him then there should be nothing to worry about in a rematch. Anything can happen in a fight though. Most people seem to think the first Fury/Wilder fight Fury was winning up until he got knocked down and was nearly KOd completely and that's all it takes. You could be dominating a fight 100% and then you get stung with a killer blow. It looked both Diaz and Masvidal were interested in the rematch but it was Dana who seemed like he wasn't interested, more likely because he was dreaming of bigger fights involving them and McGregor or Khabib. Dana White "not interested" in Jorge Masvidal vs. Nate Diaz rematch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBnqRqvePTMI had the same reaction live. But then, watching the replay..? As much as I would've loooved to see the match go on, it was the right stoppage
As above, I don't disagree with it, it's just a shame when it happens. I had similar feelings with the Fury/Wilder towel throw in. I could see why his coach did it, but I like to see fights out wherever possible. Obviously the health of fighters is paramount but that's also why I like to see rematches if there's not a clear winner. Fights going to points is always frustrating as well, especially when it's close.
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